The 108 page rebuttal to Mr. Plinkett's Phantom Menace review

who the fuck cares you god damn idiot

>>65040389
Welcome to five fucking years ago, OP.

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>>65040389
>108 pages

I don't give a shit about autistic nerds arguing at other autistic nerds. It's worse than /tv/

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>>65040389
Colo Clawtist is better.
This post is a gift for Blade57HRC

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>Qui-Gon is the main character

What? What doest that even mean? He doesn't even do anything, he only got Anakin and wasn't even because he liked him

>>65040636
AND

THEN

YOU

FROZE

The film is an ensemble.

This guy put more effort in defending this film than George Lucas did making it.

>Reddit Letter Media

>>65040389
Tried to skim through it. He does make some good points against RLM such as speculation and some biased opinions, but he defends against it with speculation and biased opinions of his own.

He has the same problems that RLM did in their video. It goes more into a rant of opinions rather than trying to prove all of his introduced claims about RLM not being useful as a good review.

So, yeah, its about the same thing as the RLM videos except with a prequel bias.

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I don't like the Plinkett prequel reviews

Many of the arguments he makes could be made against any film (e.g. convenient plot points that don't make sense). It's basically just nitpicking taken to the nth degree.

I like Half in the Bag but Plinkett is overrated as fuck

>>65040822
h-he won that pod race bet?

>>65041181
Some of it is nitpicking but some of it is legitimate criticism. Like the whole Jango Fett trying to assassinate Padme shit is handled incredibly poorly.

>>65041181
Same
I think they're fun to watch but too many people take as gospel because it's cool to rag on the prequels and the Plinked review is something they can point to and say "See it's bad this guy said so"
Not to say they are good movies, simply that people are just going against the grain because that's what's popular now

>>65041064
>biased opinions

as opposed to what? Objective opinions? It's a review you absolute moron. Does it bother anyone else that so many people don't understand what the word biased means?

>>65040389

this is so fucking old why are you posting it now

>>65041261
I am not going to watch it again to counter all of his shitty arguments but I remember not being convinced.

Doesn't he say something like "Why does Jango not do the job himself lol"? Cos he's covering his tracks? Cos he doesn't want to risk his life against two Jedi?

Just one example. Plinkett is nitpicking

>>65041181
Some of it is nitpicking, but most of it is serious flaws of the movies

I thought /v/ won with its 12 hour mario n64 video

>>65041313
Because you bandwagon hopping circlejerking faggot fucks need to hear an alternative opinion once in a while

>>65041261
The scene is basically set up for anakin to jump out the window like a spastic retard after the bounty hunter but obi wan does it instead. Other than that the scene isn't bad.

>>65041334
>covering his tracks
>shoots a highly unique poison dart into the bitch about to sell him out that is easily tracked back to the planet he's hiding on by a four armed cartoon george lucas who owns a 50s' diner on a video game planet

Yeah, no. Zam Wessel was a completely fucking useless character.

>>65041334
The gist of it
>Padme sleeps in a bedroom with windows, instead of in the middle of a building
>assassin robot could just shoot her, but goes for the quality poisonous bugs route instead
>assassin later tries to kill the jedi in the bar for no reason whatsoever instead of just fucking off

>>65041401

The prequels will literally never be good

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>>65040685
>Colo claw fish
>a monster that has about 2 minutes in a shitty movie before being eaten by an even larger thing

>>65041401
If the premise is 'the prequels are good' then no, that opinion can kindly fuck off

>I'll also admit to not liking Stoklasa's style. I find his Mr. Plinkett character extremely annoying,
with a dull voice that sounds horrible even if it's intentional. He also mispronounces words on
purpose, making things even more of a chore to listen to. I don't understand how anyone can
bash Jar Jar Binks on one hand but like Mr. Plinkett on the other. In pretty much any other piece
of entertainment, annoying impressions are brief and last only long enough to make their points.
Annoying characters are shunted into mere supporting roles. In Stoklasa's review, the annoying
impression comes from the narrator, and runs throughout the whole thing. I think his voice is a
one-note joke. If it was ever funny to begin with, it certainly doesn't make me laugh after he
carries on with it for over an hour. Nor do I laugh at his disgusting jokes about murder and rape.

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>"But the audience doesn't meet Anakin until 45 minutes into the movie."
>"Wrong. Anakin shows up at almost exactly 32 minutes into the movie."

Whew lad.

>>65041334
>Doesn't he say something like "Why does Jango not do the job himself lol"? Cos he's covering his tracks? Cos he doesn't want to risk his life against two Jedi?
No, his main argument is why the fuck did the bounty hunter decide to use poisonous bugs to kill Padme. A sniper shot would've instantly killed her or having the little droid shoot her would've instantly killed her but instead the bounty hunter used bugs.

>>65041465
Actually, the Sando aqua monster ate the opee sea killer, not the colo claw fish.

>>65041243

Yeah, to get Anakin, it's what I said.

The whole point of the Plinkett reviews is that he does nit-pick among the good criticisms. That's why it's a Plinkett review and not a Mike one.

Plinkett is a parody of the stay-at-home psychopathic manchild internet dweller, so criticism of the movies are mixed with exaggerations and whines for the sake of comedy.

How do people on either side not understand this?

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>>65041533

>>65041533
Oh, ok disregard that.

>>65041504
>>65041497
This is advanced autism.

>>65041334
you can't really counter his points. almost everything was completely sound.

>>65041411
>Other than that the scene isn't bad.
If you think about it for more than a second it's completely retarded. The Jedi use Padme as bait but don't set up any proper security measures. If the bounty hunter had used a sniper rifle Padme would be dead.

>>65041507

I actually would like to see Lucas justifying that, the little robot was RIGHT THERE, didn't even need to make a noise, could shot using a silencer OR that poisonous dart, I just don't get it

>More of Stoklasa's amateur actors (oops, I
mean friends and regular people)

Epic ad hominem

This whole thing reads like it was written over a year.

>>65041401
Having an different opinion for the sake of having a different opinion is just simple contrarianism.

>>65041533
A sando aqua monster eats both

>>65041003
underrated

Oh fuck this HAS to be the colo claw guy, for those who haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZKtndTe1g

he also makes a video about his hatred for simon pegg

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>>65041533

>bwaaah trade disputes/politics it's too complicated! i just want a bildungsroman for children, you know something my emotionally stunted manchild brain can comprehend
>bwwaaah i hate jar jar it's like a movie made for children

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>>65041424
There has to a plot device for the protagonists to track down the assassin. Habven't you ever watched a detective show/murder mystery?

>>65041425
Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?

>>65041507
Movie villains often use elaborate methods to kill the protagonist. Nothing new to the prequels

>>65041656
Niced

>>65041427
>>65041490

Episode III is good.
Episode II is fun.
Episode I is shit.

>>65041692
>Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?
Because they knew people were trying to assassinate her?
Come the fuck on anon

>>65041719
Episode III is shit.
Episode II is shitter.
Episode I is shittest.

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>>65041719

>>65041594
Yes you can. Many of his points could be targeted at ANY movie with the appropriate angle. He just has an agenda.

See
>>65041692

>>65041719
1/10 y

>>65041719
II isn't that fun bro. The first act of Revenge of the Sith was the only fun part of the prequels.

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>>65041692
>Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?

Are you implying that if you knew someone was actively attempting to assassinate you, you would happily sleep next to an open window?

>>65041533
Colo Claw Fish Defense Force get the FUCK out

>>65041692
>>65041719
The b8 police has arrived, time to abandon the thread
And yes you're going to claim that you're sincere fuck off

>>65041692
>Movie villains often use elaborate methods to kill the protagonist.
But it makes no fucking sense. At least most movie villains usually do illogical shit to make the protagonist suffer or something. Jango was hired to kill Padme, he wasn't instructed to make her suffer or anything like that.

>>65041719

I agree with this.

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>>65041751
>>65041749
problem?

>>65041643
Wrong. The colo claw fish is encountered in the cave, and does not chase them out.

Only the opee sea killer is eaten - BEFORE they enter the cave.

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>>65041756
Most of his points are toward the excessive green screen and dialog. The story was really stupid too. Most movies have a story that makes sense.

"Watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke. Did I ever tell you about his father? He was hired to assassinate a senator that me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw her would be assassin out, but his cunning surprised even us. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. And then that 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise for all we knew! Where was I? Oh yes, then that robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept, after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her because we we weren't watching her at all, but it as not a good shot. So we sense the hostile life forms in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his dumb jetpack. Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. Mace was a good friend. Boba is a bad friend."

>>65041692
>There has to a plot device for the protagonists to track down the assassin.
The assassin-droid attempts to kill Padme using a blaster bolt or the stupid dart. The Jedi detect it and manage to capture it. The droid provides clues to lead the Jedi to Kamino.

Or you could have the droid attempt to shoot Padme with that stupid dart but get disrupted by R2 or the Jedi at the last second, causing it to miss. The droid self-destructs to avoid leading the Jedi back to Jango, but the dart provides enough evidence just like in the movie.

>>65041796
>wahh someone disagreed with my opinions ;_;

Grow up and get off your high horse, shitlord. Get over yourself.

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>"But the audience doesn't meet Anakin until 45 minutes into the movie."
>"Wrong. Anakin shows up at almost exactly 32 minutes into the movie."

Wow he sure BTFO Plinkett.

>>65041003
George Lucas actually put a lot of effort into it he's just an incompetent fuck

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>>65041880
>shitlord

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>"But the audience doesn't meet Anakin until 45 minutes into the movie."
>"Wrong. Anakin shows up at almost exactly 32 minutes into the movie."

>>65041692
>There has to a plot device for the protagonists to track down the assassin.
It's a horribly done, illogical plot device.
>Movie villains often use elaborate methods to kill the protagonist.
There's no reason for the villain to use an elaborate method to kill Padme though. He's a professional bounty hunter that was hired to kill her. He bears no grudge against her, he wasn't instructed to make her suffer or kill her in a complex way. He was told to kill her and he did it in the most needlessly complex way for no reason.

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>>65041652

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>>65041859

>She could have been a good friend in disguise for all we knew
>Boba is a bad friend

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>>65041692
>Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?

>>65041692
>Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?
This has to be bait.

>>65041820
>lolol are you upset at my opinions lolol ebin
Calm down, you're just stupid.

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>>65041692
>Padme isn't living in a particularly unsafe neighbourhood or a ghetto in Somalia. There is no crippling paranoia so why can't she sleep with the windows open?

...you remember the part where she's getting hunted by an assassin, right?

>>65041774
That, and the parodies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DD45wBDLNs

>>65041692
hi George

>>65041652
Can someone link the ED site of SaganFan? Found nothing with this name. I know he made that hillarious titty-monser

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>>65041652
>decide to take a look at deenapete's YouTube channel
>mfw he likes Channel Awesome

>>65042095
>ED
You mean Deviant Art? Same name as the youtube channel.
http://saganfan1983.deviantart.com/

>>65040389
I didn't know autism like this actually existed

>>65042157
inb4 niggers with poor reading comprehension calling you a newfag

>>65041652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEjOKdDOzPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N09DyHtejZA

Who would've guessed that someone who likes Sonic the Hedgehog and TGWTG is a flaming autist?

>>65040389
>>Some fedora-tipper took offence to Plinkett's review and put together a shoddy rebuttal.
Yeah, like 5 years ago. Why are you posting it now?

>>65041003
savage

>>65041181
>(e.g. convenient plot points that don't make sense)
How could that be made against Goodfellas? You sound mildly retarded.

>>65041840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQVAShJzLo

Watch both attacks carefully before you eat all the shit coming out of my arsehole, shitposter

>>65040389
>pages
fat chance faggot. Make a video, like Plinkett did, and maybe you'll get a fraction of his audience

>>65041749
Episode III is so-bad-it's-good
Episode II is brain meltingly awful
Episode I is just simple shit

>>65042575
This.

>>65042157
Found it.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sirius_Orionis

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>he was suffering from the coldness of space at the time
?
fucking dropped

>>65042698
Wow, that's some of the stupidest baseless speculation I've ever seen.

>>65042698
>Space ain't the kind of place, to raise your kids
>In fact, it's cold as hell
>And you're busy checking death counts
>If you did

>>65042690
>https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sirius_Orionis
Holy fuck balls. I mean when you said the tit monster I thought you mean his art page. I didn't expect this faggot to be a pre-established internet autist.

Am I the only one that thinks the podrace scene was way too long?

>coldness of space
>space isn't cold

>>65042397
Sando is patrician. What a bro.

>>65042364
Why didn't he just go home and get his fucking shine box

>>65041556
This

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>>65041692

prequel apologists, when will they ever learn?

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>>65040685
This senpai

>>65042954
It really is, for the movie it's in.

It's one big reference to the chariot race scene in Ben-Hur but, in that movie, we not only cared about Judah Ben-Hur's character and development, but we also had to watch real men get painfully rekt as the race goes on.

The podrace, though, is basically a cartoon. Nobody cares that unknown CGI-Alien#4 hit a wall or anything. And Jake Lloyd is bland as fuck even without having pretty much nothing by "Yeah!" or "Yippee!" to say from the script.

There's no point in lingering on it because not much of it means much to us. The point is that Anakin manages to win, that's all. That's all we get from it.

Oh, we also got a cool N64 game.

>>65042698
So he didn't proofread it?

>>65043599

I know right? At least the game was cool, because that scene was there just to sell videogames. I wanted to watch only the podrace scene when I didn't watched TPM yet and the video was 10 minutes long, I couldn't believe it.

>>65041181
He does say that he nitpicks but points out real big flaws, if you don't take it too seriously they're really funny, I love the edgy skits

Plus, Nadine is hot as shit

>>65044593
My favorite skit was from the Indiana Jones review where he came on the TV to Full House for a good 2 minutes.

>>65042954
It's symptomatic of the prequels. The pod race starts off as cool but it goes on for 3 laps. The same thing can be said of the Mustafar duel in EIII. The fight goes on for way too long and I personally drift off for 80% of it.

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>>65041003
>mfw its true

>>65040389
Plinkett's reviews may be entertaining but they are terrible criticism and only serve to show how much of a failure Plinkett aka Mike is as a film-maker.

>>65045238
>it's a "I have to pretend Mike is a failure to make myself feel better about my worthless life" post

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>>65041652
Holy shit, I just watched some of the video, I feel sick, this is sick. Autism is a disease of our human civilization, this person should be given a ticket to the camp.

>>65045238
Please explain what the fuck this post is supposed to mean.

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>>65045555

>>65042954

It was for the kids.

WHERE IS THE SPACE COP TORRENT, YOU HACK FRAUDS

>>65040685
I found out his life story and it's kinda depressing. I feel bad for the guy.

>>65041399
What?

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>>65045813
You mean this life story?

>>65045907
yes mainly that and his other deviantart posts

T_T

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>>65045555
I came to check these quads

>>65042575
This. Years from now they will be cult classics. It has already begun

>>65040389
>Writes 108 pages of rebuttal about a 4 and half hour long review of a shitty movie
Now this is what I call autism

>>65045702

Kids have a short atention span bro.

I can't believe how much interest there is in RLM. These guys are really popular.

Agreed

Compared to TFA, the prequels are good

>>65046107
wrong

HAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA
Look this is what happens when memeing goes too far

>>65040606
No one 'cares' but a lot of people find it somewhat interesting to check out.
Calm down anon :)

>>65040389
I've only heard of the rumor of this, I had no idea it was actually real.

Bet he submits entries for autismpedia

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the maymay gone too far

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>people defending prequels
>again

Lol. memes have gone WAY too far. haha

Will anyone ever read this whole thing?
We may never know.

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>>65040389

The intro sets it up like it's going to be an actual critical rebuttal but the content is spergy, mentally ill nonsense.

Gets me every time.

>>65041719
They're all shit.

I can't believe /tv/ has swung so far toward defending the prequels. Are you faggots really that committed to being contrarians that you feel the need to defend the prequels?

They're awful movies and disgraceful entries into Star Wars. Face facts, fags.

>>65041719
The only watchable one is RotS, in a so-bad-it's-fun way.

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>But the audience doesn't meet Anakin until 45 minutes into the movie.

>Wrong. Anakin shows up at almost exactly 32 minutes into the movie.
Jesus Christ.

>>65041058
i hope you convince yourself that youre clever

The prequels are really good anons. Idk wtf everyone is on about

daily reminder that aspergs/autists barely qualify as people

>>65041556
No way anon, you mean "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE" was a running gag and not legitimate, artistic criticism?

I wonder if people who bitch about the reviews even watched them sometimes.

>>65047407
Too obvious.

>>65040389
should have made a video. Im not reading this shit. + I have my own rebuttal.

>108 pages
autism

I kind of get the argument that the plot of The Phantom Menace SORT of makes sense. But you have to really deconstruct it, and it's not very interesting anyway.

That does explain why it fascinates a subset of real autistics though.

>>65041692
Only the colo claw fish could be this autistic

when will eu and prequel fags ever stop being butthurt at TFA's success

>>65041656
That I actually agree with. He bashes the movie for being about space trade taxation, but something stupid like that is seriously what often causes real world conflicts.

Also, Stoklasa bashes on the prequels for taking too much from the original movies, but at the same time loves TFA???

>>65048266
Why make an overconvoluted plot about space taxation and other shit but have nothing meaningful to say about it.

Basically you force the audience to decipher what the fuck is the motivation for the entire fucking plot for zero reward.

>>65041656
I hope this is bait. There's nothing hypocritical about hating the politics and Jar Jar. The political scenes are dull and uninteresting, Jar Jar's antics are painfully unfunny.

>>65048358

I like how the plot of the entire PT boils down to "Palpatine is behind everything!"

>>65048358
>Why make an overconvoluted plot about space taxation and other shit but have nothing meaningful to say about it.
The meaningful aspect is Sheeve's use of chaos/divide and conquer to make his new empire.

The prequels were bad (I actually enjoy 2nd and 3rd one) with a lot of cringey moments, but the movies actually had potential.

I give Lucas credit for his originality as opposed to TFA, which was like watching a new hope with some stuff from empire and a dash of JJ Abrams.

>>65048527
What's the point of being original if it's shit? I'm sorry, but anyone could see TPM was shit before the general reception by the public came out.
Couldn't Lucas do something better? What was on his mind?

>>65048598
Pottery.

>>65048527
>The meaningful aspect is Sheeve's use of chaos/divide and conquer to make his new empire.

theres plenty of easy to understand and not shitty ways to do this cliched as fuck villain plot to take over the world.

>>65048598
>What was on his mind?
Probably way too much.
He wanted to make something new because making fantasy stories bored him. At the same time he wanted to keep his old man child fans from OT. He also wanted new generations to be entertained (kids) while also making a shit tonne of money on the prequels.

His extensive use of computer editing was probably a combination of laziness and a hard on for new technology.

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>>65048598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

>>65042575
No, Episode III isn't good in any way, even ironically.

>>65048877
Look at this shit, it's disgusting. The old man is suggesting horrible shit to be in the movie and EVERYONE around agrees and nods.
Plinkett is right, George got way too much power in this, and that might explain why it was so bad.

>>65048751
>theres plenty of easy to understand and not shitty ways to do this cliched as fuck villain plot to take over the world.
You're talking about star wars here. The whole concept of star wars is basically fairy tale in space. Ergo, clichés doesn't matter shit.
I wouldn't call Palpatine's story for clichéd due to the use of real life situations such as blockades and the issues between democracy and dictatorship.

>>65041287
To be fair, objectivity is an important part of critical analysis. It is completely possible for a critic to dislike (or like) certain themes, genres, actors etc, and still make an unfettered critique of that particular work. That's the difference between an opinion and a review, no one can say or write anything without some form of bias, but a good critic is at least aware of it.

>>65048527
It's Sheev not Sheeve, reddit

>>65045238
>but they are terrible criticism
Nope, they're really poignant and brilliant analysis.

>>65046879
you're mad as fuck bro

>>65040636
IS THAT KAKA ON HIS UPPER LIP?

>>65041924
We don't meet Luke until about 20+ minutes into ANH either, so it's not that big a difference

I don't really think you need a single protagonist as audience-surrogate like you did in ANH anyway. It's an important device to help bring the audience into a whole new fantasy world, but with TPM the world was already so well-established and familiar it would have just felt repetitive. May as well start the story at the centre of the Galaxy rather than the edge again

the word "autism" is thrown around a lot these days, especially on 4chan

but the anti-Plinkett shit like Colo Claw and this could only have been created by people so far up the Assburgers scale that they might as well be mascots for the disease

only the UTV stalker comes close in autism power levels

Star Wars fans have always been insane.

None of the movies made perfect sense, they're all just cool scifi action movies that talk about mystical shit sometimes.

>>65051101
>We don't meet Luke until about 20+ minutes into ANH either
>20+
Why lie?

>>65047195
The point is no one cares that we don't see Luke till 20+ minutes in ANH. It's such a noncriticism.

>>65050427
i can't believe tv allows images of this poopy puffing man to be shown

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>>65051192
>Colo Claw
Holy shit he's absolutely retarded.
>There's one 'life-changing event in my life' that gave me incentive to create this awesome commentary. On saturday, august first [pauses]... 2015...
>>65051335
Are you saying 20+ as a way of saying "a long time" or do you actually mean literally 20 minutes? Because if the letter, it's wrong.

>>65048266
People just want mindless entertainment like TFA. If you notice even 4chan eats that shit up, despite its numerous flaws and inconsistencies but they'll write long-winded rants about muh poisonous space bugs and muh convoluted plot. TFA has no plot to speak of. Its characters are marvelized. There's little world building to speak of, but it "feels" like Star Wars so it must be great.

>>65041425
>>Padme sleeps in a bedroom with windows, instead of in the middle of a building
This was intentional. Anakin was using Padme as bait to lure the assassin out of hiding.

>>65048527
>>65048598
>>65048751
>>65049003

To be fair I think Lucas had a harder job than people realise with the plot of TPM. He needed to balance a lot of things.

In the OT you have Obi-Wan and everyone harking back to this great ideal of the Republic - some kind of perfect democratic society

So objective # 1 of TPM has to be to show how this was true to an extent. It needs to show us what a near-perfect, happy, peaceful galaxy looks like. After spending the OT on the beaten-down edges of the galaxy, we need to see the centre. It needs to be something worth fighting for so we will be sad later on when it falls (this is why it would have been wrong to jump straight in to the clone wars in film #1)

#2: But a perfect, peaceful society makes a boring plot, so there needs to be some peril and problems. However you can't make that peril/conflict too massive and existential because that's for the later films

#3: Then also you need to somehow hint at the greater evil and unease that its to come (Sheev) while still leaving the audience overall with a sense that the galaxy is a good, happy place

So yeah I can see why he went with a relatively minor dispute (a greedy corporation bullying peaceful democracies), but with themes that hinted at bigger problems to come. And kept the conflict largely contained to one world so we get a happy resolution with some unease

Yeah it could have been done better but it was a hard balancing act with those 3 objectives. A lot of the alternatives that RLM and the like put forward would fail to deliver on one or all of those things

>>65051633
He says it was her idea.

>>65051285
Sorry I'm not autistic enough to go look it up for the sake of a /tv/ post

>>65041623
No it couldn't have. That would have tripped the alarm and alerted Anakin and Obi-wan.

>>65051539
>>There's one 'life-changing event in my life' that gave me incentive to create this awesome commentary. On saturday, august first [pauses]... 2015...
WHAT DID HE SAY AFTER THAT? WHAT INSPIRED HIM?

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>>65041507
Lucas wanted slugs because he wanted mirroring of the Mynocks Han and Leia kill in the asteroid during the Empire Strikes Back. Having the droid use them seems like a dumb idea however.

>>65051730
I believe it's actually 17 minutes, but what the fuck does it matter?

>>65051780
He read a comment on the TPM Plinkett review or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZKtndTe1g

>>65051772
They didn't notice until the bug was literally on top of her, and only because Anakin has jesus force powers.

They didn't notice the robot in the minute or two prior to this. I'm not even sure why the robot was still there. It could have released the bugs and fucked off, or it could have shot her and fucked off.

>>65051782
Jango says that they shoul try something more subtle. Who cares that a droid delivers them? It's not like Padme can actually die people. It's amazing how it's been 14 years and people are still harping on something so utterly pointless.

>>65051890
>Jango says that they shoul try something more subtle.
But why should they try something more subtle? Why not have the little droid shoot her? It makes no fucking sense. People still harp on about it because it's incredibly stupid.

>>65051539
>>65051799

Guess the point is that you don't have to meet you protagonist in the first few scenes of the movie?

Not that I think Anakin is the protagonist anyway - rather that you don't need a Luke style protagonist to ease you into the world, you can just have multiple ones as in ESB, ROTJ, or the latter 2 lord of the rings (see >>65051101
)

>>65051730
>sorry I don't care about being right when I post
Me too.

>>65051799
Yeah it is but my problem with anon's post isn't 3 minutes, it's the idea that Luke and Anakin's entrances into the movies are similarly timed. That "+" anon added to the 20 tries to make it even closer than it really is.

>>65052072
>Guess the point is that you don't have to meet you protagonist in the first few scenes of the movie?
You don't but you meet Anaking much later (32 minutes in is twice the time it took to meet Luke).

>>65051633
>Anakin was using Padme as bait to lure the assassin out of hiding.
Except he was complaining about her insisting on not having any video cams in the room.

>>65043331
Where can I watch his old vids

- Blade57HRC

>>65046107
Who are you even agreeing with, retard?

>>65051864
That's because the bugs were crawling on the walls and didn't trip the alarm in the floor. Shooting Padme would have broken the glass and they would have been in the room instantly.

The plan still doesn't make any sense though. As you said after the bugs were dropped off the droid should have left immediately. Though in that case it wouldn't have known if they finished the job or not.

>>65051681
Okay...not sure what difference that makes. The point is she was being used as bait and that's why she was near the windows.

>>65051976
Killing her with the bugs will give Zam more time to escape. The Jedi wouldn't discover she was dead until the morning.

>>65052261
That's cause Padme thought Anakin was a creepy perv. They ended up just putting R2 in the room as a compromise.

>>65051772
>That would have tripped the alarm and alerted Anakin and Obi-wan.
>>65052490
>they would have been in the room instantly.
None of that would fucking matter. Padme would already be dead. There's no logical reason to why the droid used bugs instead of shooting her.

>>65051976
Because trying to blow her up didn't work and Jango knows there will be heightened security. If Padme hadn't turned off the cameras they would have easily noticed the droid approaching. And honestly from a cinematic standpoint trying to blow her up twice in the first ten minutes is redundant and boring. It's fine. There are far bigger plot holes in Star Wars like for instance leia knowingly leading the Death Star to the secret rebel base that she had previously sacraficed her home world in order to protect the location of.

>>65052655
>Killing her with the bugs will give Zam more time to escape.
Still makes no sense. The droid could've just shot her and self destructed while Zam is on the other side of the city.

>>65052757
>Because trying to blow her up didn't work and Jango knows there will be heightened security. If Padme hadn't turned off the cameras they would have easily noticed the droid approaching.
This makes no sense senpai. Jango knew there was heightened security so he hired a bounty hunter to use bugs even though a security cam would've seen the droid the second it got to the window? Let's just accept that the bug assassination makes no fucking sense and move on.

>>65052655
Zam didn't need more time to escape, she was far away from Padme's building while the droid was unleashing the bugs.

>>65041604
Sniper rifle? You can clearly see theres a shield that the assasin droid has to "cut"

>>65052730
Yes it would since even with Padme dead they would have chased the droid, found Zam and eventually found Jango the same way they ended up doing.

>>65053262
SELF DESTRUCT.

>>65052730
>>65053262
Also who's to say the droid could have killed her with one shot? What if it missed and she crawled to the floor? Once she yells for help it's game over.

>>65053260
Then the little droid should've shot her.

>>65053342
If it had that function it would have used it while Obi-Wan was hanging off of it.

>>65053364
George, fuck off. The droid probably could've gotten a head shot.

>>65053453
Are you seriously going to continue to defend one of the stupidest parts of the worst Star Wars movie? If you're going to argue "durr it didn't have self destruct" then I'm going to argue Zam should've put a fucking bomb in the robot. Have the robot cut a hole in her window, shoot her and then self destruct. That would've been more logical than what Zam did do. The bug shit was fucking retarded.

>>65053571
I'm not saying the scene makes any sense. Obviously she should have just had the droid self destruct next to Padme's window. The rest of the complaints are nitpicks though.

>>65053492
Yes cause if there's one thing droids in Star Wars are known for it's their marksmanship.

>>65052757
Your second sentence completely contradicts your first sentence. If Jango thought she would have heightened security then why use the little droid at all? Jango should've guessed that a security camera would've seen the droid the second it got close to the window.

>>65045907
>tfw no plane room

>>65040822
>What?

It's fairly true, but it's also an indication of TPM's poor construction. If there is to be a character who is the singular protagonist of The Phantom Menace as it exists, it can only be Qui-Gon Jinn. The action primarily follows him and his decisions, and he dominates the film's screen time. At the same time, this is a mistake on Lucas's part - TPM is a story about beginnings, and Qui-Gon is a man at the end of his journey. Frankly, most of his role in the movie needed to be Obi-Wan's. In fact, in earlier drafts, most of it was. Lucas done goofed and added a character he didn't need late in writing, and as a result, cannibalized one he did need to do it.

>>65052999
It does make sense for them to try something more subtle, even if the logistics are a little wonky. It's Star Wars. I like that they used a unique method to try to kill someone. It led to a fun chase sequence and that was ultimately the point.

>>65053736
Maybe Jango has a mole in Padme's security? How else would he have known about the floor sensors?

>>65053783
Now you're just speculating. Nothing in the movie indicates Jango has a mole in her security.

>>65053783
>How else would he have known about the floor sensors?
You can speculate but the real answer is George is a fucking terrible writer.

>>65053849
Why did the Republic allow the first oder to construct a new Death Star? That's a significant plot hole. This is nitpicking to the extreme.

>>65053925
Just stop posting. The bug assassination is retarded. Let's all move on.

>>65053978
Should have moved on 14 years ago.

The Padme assassination snafu may be the most fascinating overlooked detail of the entire prequel trilogy. Well done anons.

>>65054038
It's hilarious how bad it is when you really break it down.

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An entire generation of teenagers grew up with the prequels and saw them before the originals.

These are the people who unironically claim that there is anything decent about the prequels. Teenagers.

>>65054294
That cat's so cute I love him.