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>black actor even if the character has been described as Caucasian in the novels & comics for decades
>the opposite BAD guy is white
disgusting desu

welcome to 2016 I guess....
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Oh looks, it's this thread again.
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>>64969605
Oh look, it's this nigger again
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>>64969582

You know what to do. Boycott the fucking movie.
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>>64969657
>replying to tripfags

Don't be so new anon
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>>64969582
>Stephen King

Who cares about that cuck hack?
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>>64969582
>stringer is roland

wat
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>black

He's british
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>>64969582
>Shit idea, prolly gonna make the movie flop
>Who's behind this movie?
>look it up
>It's Sony

Of course, the house of bad ideas, the studio that almost started the Ghostbusters cinematic universe.

The worst thing is that this is a lose/lose scenario. If it flops, we'll never get another shot at the adaptation, if it succeeds, it's shit.
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>not casting Karl Urban
How do you fuck up this badly
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>>64969778
He's a nigger with a british passport you mean
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Serious question. Do the black people in this thread think this was a good casting decision?
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>implying a nigger would be allowed to speak the high speech and become a gunslinger

This is just shitting all over the source material. Really disappointed about this.

Is Susanna gonna be white?
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I don't like politically motivated casting, but Elba has been good in the movies I've seen him in, so this doesn't bother me too much
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>BBC America
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>>64969862
HELL YEEEEEAH AYYO HOLUP BIX NOOD MUHFUGGAH WE PRESIDENT NOW, OOGA BOOGA *SMACKS LIPS* GIMMIE SOMMA DAT FRIED CHIKIN WHITE BOI!
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>>64969900
>Is Susanna gonna be white?
Is she gonna call him a nigger?
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>>64969657
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>>64969862
>asking if black people read
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I love Elba, but frankly this is a shitty idea.
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>>64969582
DOA the movie
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>>64969862
who's this poor motherfucker who's black and still comes to 4chan?
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>>64969582
Elba is not even black
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>>64969582
>Stephen "Cuck" King
>"Y-yeah that's a great idea, please rape my masterpiece; the color of thsi charismatic character I have carefully written for 30 years is not really important after all"
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>>64969956
Nigga marketing will take care of it. You think they're making the movie to appeal to bookfags?
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Hitler was right.
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>>64969582

>we want the Django Unchained audience
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>kills a white boy
>kills his mom
>shoots an entire town dead
>runs with a gang

Shieeeeet
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>>64970033
There is still hope for a better world.
You just need to make the right decision when the time comes
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>>64969582
I hope this movie flops.

Seriously, money is the only language Faggotwood can speak.
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>>64970016
The whitest black man in the world
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Movie will bomb. No one cares about the Dark Tower because no one reads.
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>>64970110

You've got a point there, lad.
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>>64970136
He's backed by Jews. Sorry to spoil your meme.
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I blame BLACKED. The porn is so damn good, it's beginning to make people think everything getting BLACKED will improve it.

Actually, I haven't seen one project where a BLACKED role has been better than the cuckfree version.

Even the US Presidency was a roaring success.

Also is The Dark Tower any good?
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>>64969939

Racist white slave owners prevented blacks from reading. Blacks learned to read anyways.
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Look, if Carey Fukunaga can make IT with the modest budget that was originally on the table (50 mil for two movies it sounds like), I will gladly pre-order with 40 dollars.
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>>64970246
He's literally the only candidate who is funding himself. He's literally the only candidate who isn't the jews pocket. He's literally the only candidate who doesn't need to answer to corporations before he makes a decision.
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>>64970033

He was wrong about burning books written by jews. This prevented people from reading Einstein's books to educate themselves on relativity which is the key to understanding the universe.
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>>64970246
thats exactly what a slimy jew would say.
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>>64970384
If he's so smart why did he support Hillary? She hasn't changed a bit.
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>>64970384
>he will never use his power to make himself and his friends richer
okay fucboi
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>>64970323
>blacks breaking the law

wow, what a fucking surprise.
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THANK YA BIGBIG BIXNOOD MUHFUGGA WE GUNSLINGERS NOW SAI
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>>64970384
>He's literally the only candidate who isn't the jews pocket.
His daughter gets dicked by a Jew every night.
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>>64970515
Sounds more like the jews are in his pocket than the other way around.
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>>64970396
Relativity is a Jewish lie spread by Zionist "scientists".
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Have any of us stopped to consider what timespan this movie will cover? Just the first book? or what? the series is huge, no way it could cover it all even in a trilogy, they'd have to cut out so much.
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>>64970170
that's fucking bullshit only black americans think like this most blacks that grew up in a european country act pretty much like the natives but some niggas are inspired by afro americans and kinda act like them
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Idris Elba's probably the most shameless actor working currently.

It seems like all of his career as the "go-to" black actor is built on him accepting roles or expressing interest in roles that were originally written as white men.
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>>64969582
to be honest the casting should be the other way around
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>>64970438
>making money is wrong
>helping your friends is wrong
>liberal logic
liberal sissies like you are the reason everyone is sick and tired of this bullshit. You are the reason Trump is going to win. I hope you get kicked out with all the muslims and mexican'ts, because you may not be the oil in the well of america, but you are the cuck who is fighting to keep that oil where it is.
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>>64969582

This mainly bothers me because his race is actually important to the story. They'll have to make some serious character alterations to make this work.

If the differences are this serious before the script is even in place, it doesn't bode well for a seven book series with a multimedia adaptation planned.
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>>64970515
KIKED
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>>64970536
>whored his daughter to a Jew for better business deals
>even allowed her to convert
Literally cuck
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>>64970421
Because he knows he is going to win the republican candidacy and he knows if Hillary wins the democrat candidacy he will become president because no one in their right mind is ever going to vote for a woman
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>people argue HES A GREAT ACTOR OMG

Other than maybe The Wire and Luthor, everything else of his acting repertoire isn't that impressive.
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>>64970555
but he's a brit if he'd play some hood nigga it'd be unnatural
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It's like if Aragorn would have been played by a Black actor :|
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>>64970308
If you like King's writing style, the yeah, it's a fun book. Song of Susannah is a bit of a struggle though.
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>>64970384
based
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>>64970384
He might be the kikiest candidate.

He'll just play every jew tier bullshit as a "fuck muslims" and people are going to eat it until realize what's happening. See: Bush.
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>>64970542
>Relativity is a Jewish lie spread by Zionist "scientists".

All memes aside, you should actually try studying physics sometime. Relativity is the best theory we have for understanding the universe.
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The thing that gets me is that this negates the interracial relationship between a white male character and a black female character.

To me that'd be more progressive than a simple black lead. This really isn't a step forward.
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>>64970692
God created the universe. What's so hard to understand about that?
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>>64970672
you can't honestly tell me hilary, hernie, or any other GOP'er would be any better though
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>>64970692
>All memes aside, you should actually try studying physics sometime.
>implying I don't know that the thieving kike stole Lorentz and Minkowski's work for his "Electrodynamics..." paper and didn't give a single reference or citation
Nice try Chaim
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>>64969862
I'm half black and think it's fine, I don't see the big deal, Elba is a well known high profile actor good with action roles.

I don't get why white people complain about this shit. I was talking with my mom's husband while she was upstairs with my dad and he seemed to be realy annoyed. It's just skin colour.
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>>64970246

>He's backed by Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkCtipt6kqU
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>>64970741
>God created the universe
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>>64970323
white people need teachers to learn to read

no wonder white people still can't figure out how blacks built the pyramids
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>>64970543
so we're not gonna talk about this ?
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>>64969582
where are the SJWs when the white should be defended?
why is always the white man the badguy?
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>>64970705

Don't worry, they'll make her white.
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>>64970750
literally no one would be better. At least Trump might make us laugh. But as far as jews go, they're still going to be in charge if le based Trump win.
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>>64970791
Literally the greatest presidential candidate I've ever seen
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>>64969582
At least it's someone who's a good actor.
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>>64969582
who cares
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>>64970595
Any expansion on this for non-Dark Tower people?
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>>64969862
We finna be dat new Dark Tower. We finna be dat new Star Wars.
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>>64971031
seems like everyone in this thread except for your twisted cuck ass
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>>64970791
>Jews aren't even giving him money
>still supports Israel 100%
What a shabbos goy
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>>64971054
>hey this good actor is playing a character from a book
>the book said he was white a couple times
>literally makes no difference to the character
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

you guys are literally controlled by blacks, spend all day fuming about them and thinking about them

and the cuck is the one that isnt?
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>>64969937
Is that the staircase from The Nanny?
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>>64970630
I was hoping for a serious rebuttal since these are our 2 candidates but I guess 4chan is too lowbrow.
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Idris Elba is seriously overrated. It seems everyone here likes him for some reason. I think he's decent at best. Haven't really seen a memorable performance from him yet.
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If I remember a line from the book, a black female character called Roland, "A mother fucking honky". Pretty sure the only people who get called a "honky" are white people. Don't forget all the graphic novels, the drawn covers, etc that depict Roland as white. Oh wait, just like Hermione in Harry Potter they dont go into every minute detail of a character's genealogy to know if they are white or not. Thanks libtards.
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>>64970797
These fucks haven't read Stephen King's work, my friend... most fuckers have only seen the terrible movie adaptations of his works. They call themselves fansXD yet literally have no idea just how fucking nuts fiction can be. Probably why they suck Game of Throne's dick so hard.
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>>64971169
Please explain what you think wasn't serious about my rebuttal. It's been proven through multiple polls that people are going to vote for Trump over Hillary and the gap is growing every day. Trump has said many times in interviews that he hopes Hillary wins the democratic vote because then he is essentially guaranteed the presidency
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>>64971324
My point is this wasn't a 20 year long ruse. I am curious why Trump supported Shillary in 2008. Fuck me, right?
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>>64971034
Roland (Elba) is the main character. To fulfil his destiny, he has to draw some people from our world to his. One is another white guy, Eddie. Later, he draws a black woman, Odetta, who is in a wheelchair because she lost both her legs below the knees.

Odetta is from the time fo the civil rights movement in the USA, and was big on peaceful and nonviolent protests. She ALSO has a split personality called Detta, who is a violent, criminal and very racist towards whites. She (Detta) tries multiple times to kill Roland and Eddie because she thinks the "Honky Mahfaks" are trying to poison her (they're not). Eventually, Roland forces her into a mental confrontation with herself, creating a baanced third personality called Susannah.

It's not as huge a part of the story as sme people are making out, but it's the main part of Odetta/Detta/Susannah's characterisation. Other than that, I can't think of anything other than Eddia frequently saying that Roland looks like Clint Eastwood.
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>>64969582
I don't watch niggerdom.
>>64970788
>I'm half black
>I was talking with my mom's husband while she was upstairs with my dad
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I want /pol/ to leave

I'm all for calling out niggers for crime stats or when they whine about not being represented but Elba is a legitimately good actor an he can do a great job with DT

plus I hated the books so idgaf
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>>64971363
>My point is this wasn't a 20 year long ruse
You think a successful plan to become the most powerful man in the world happens in a year? Also 2008 was 8 years ago not 20.
>Fuck me, right?
Yes. Fuck you, reddit. Why is it so hard for you liberals to provide facts and statistics in your arguments? And why do you always sound like such sissies?
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>>64969582
>source is called The Dark Tower
You should've seen it coming, /tv/.
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>>64971476
>liberals
I'm libertarian, shitposter. Why can't you 4chan fags accept conservatism? You might as well be a limey retard, you're already half qualified.
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>>64971463
>being a good actor means you are good for every role
I also think Elba is a great actor. He was amazing in Beasts of No Nation. But because I don't fantasize about watching my gf get fucked by a black man I am able to realize that this is the worst casting choice ever.
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>>64969582
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>>64971400
Honestly I would be happier if they left most of that part out, mostly because I don't think they could have a crazy black lady in a wheelchair shouting about white people and it not be fucking hilarious, instead of seeing her as potentially deadly
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>>64971527
I don't accept anything except the truth. Donald Trump is the only candidate who gives us the unfiltered truth and tells the people what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear.
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>>64971544
way to start off well and crash and burn within a few words

basically you don't like the casting because he's black. As if some white meme actor like Channing Tatum or Chris Pratt would be a better choice
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>>64971636
Yes, they would be better picks. Why can't you retards respect the stories you're sucking money from like vampires? Some nigger isn't going to make this a smashing hit over Chris Pratt or some other famous white man that fits the role.
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Who gives a fuck what some nerdy comic says, Idris Elba is a great actor
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>>64971636
What the fuck is so hard to understand about that? You liberals are so desperate to prove that you are more progressive than the last that you've completely lost touch with reality. It's like you want people to think you've evolved to a point where you can't see color. It's the reason societies moral pendulum has started swinging back towards the right and it's the reason Trump is going to win the presidency
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>>64971682
I can't respect this particular story because it's a series of Stephen King brainfarts and he admitted as much

And Chris Pratt wouldn't be a good fit because the script won't have funny quips every 5 minutes or toilet humor

>>64971752
kek, I'm not liberal and I don't give a fuck who the new corporate puppet in the white house will be
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>>64971588
It was kind of funny, but that didn't take away from her being a very real threat.

I think it was Roland (or could have been Eddie) that explains That they think that Detta's personality is a fabrication. One she made up to cover up her true cunning and ferocity. At one point she even hog ties Eddie and chokes him out while a bunch of lobster monsters come and almost eat him.
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The casting makes no sense since Roland is lean and gets more and more gaunt from his endless questing.

Elba, while a very good actor, is rather buff and stocky so it doesn't really add up, especially since I doubt he plans to lose 60+ lbs for the role to look the part.

Not to mention that he's not really someone who comes to mind when you think of an arthurian gunslinger.

At this point Viggo, who's getting old and weathered would be a good choice for it.
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>>64971806
>I can't respect this particular story because it's a series of Stephen King brainfarts
Then you have no place here to state your opinion. You'd defend Oprah being Roland. You're the lowest form of idiot. Why are you here?
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>>64971841
>Viggo

Viggo would be perfect for Roland. Don't forget that Roland spends an entire book basically dying of AIDS
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>>64971708
Who gives a fuck he is a great actor? He should play parts suited for him. Being a great actor shouldn't automatically put you on the lead for the Hillary Clinton biopic. This Elba situation is getting out of hand, dude is making a career of being miscast.
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>>64971879
To add to this, he spends the whole book dying of AIDS while Eddie, a white man, takes care of him. It's a huge plot point that explores Eddie's addiction and allows him to stop being the prisoner

Changing Roland to a black man and then having to dance around the PC characterization fucks this series up in so many ways.
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>>64969582
Studios don't care about skin color, they only care about star power. Elba will bring lots of people to watch it = money++, it's quite simple.
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>>64971864
top lel, as if you're some massive DT fan

you're just some /pol/ kid who can't handle the fact that a character written as white would be played by a black actor even if it means he'll be much better at the role than [flavor of the year meme faggot #981]
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>>64971841
Exactly, it's not only the skin color. He really doesn't match the role at all, if they want a nigger so much the least they could do is find a matching nigger.
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>>64971879
Viggo is like 60 years old, let it go
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>>64971926
I really doubt that they will put a Black man suffering from AIDS on the screen, so they will skip this story.

this movie will be a GIANT mess
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AYYYOOO
>votes Democratic
AYYYOO SO HOL UP
>snorts coke
AYYYYYOO AYO SO HOL UP HOL UP
>gets gibsmedats
SO YOU BE SAYN
>rapes a white women
AYYO AYO SO HOL UP
>robs a liquor store
SO HOL UP YOU BE SAYN
>eats KFC
SO YOU BE SAYN
>tries to grab a copy's gun
DAT I BE SOME KINDA
>degrades popular culture
GUN SLINGA!?
>dies in a drive-by
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>>64969582
he's homo
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>first book involves Roland arriving in a small town and fucking a prostitute that will probably be pale and blonde
>second part involves him fucking a witch that will probably be pale and ginger
>Mordred is half-black now with his white part being the evil one
>Flagg is a white guy that as a backstory was raped by a gang of blacks
>Susannah will be a pale white woman
>Tick-Tock man will be a white supremacist

Etc..

The only thing that can salvage this is if they get Sam Worthington as Eddie.
He was born to play that part.
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>>64971989
roland is about that age for most of the series

after his dialogue with the man in black he ages like 20 years
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Am I the only one that feels bad for Stephen King? He just can't win. Retards always fuck up his stories and even more retards will claim these awful movies are better than the shocking novels because "heh I'm intelligent for attacking the most famous horror author of the 20th century!"
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>>64971989
Roland himself is a ragged, fucked up middle aged man. I think he could pull it off.

>>64971993
Will not watch, considering they're going to depict a black man wiping out a whole town (children included), then letting another kid die....

Roland isn't supposed to be likable, he should be cast as a kind of villain. Eddie is supposed to be the likable male lead.
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>>64972056
but from what starting point

he becomes a gunslinger at 14
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>>64972059
stephen king is a giant cuck and deserves every second of it
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missing the point desu,

roland is described as a "clint eastwood type" which means he's just that type of character. i have no problem that idris elba can play that kind of character.
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>>64969828
Too young.
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>>64972059
1408 was great though, not to mention Shawshank

my only wish is for a GOAT Long Walk movie and I can die happy
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>>64972087
The series starts with Roland chasing the man in black across the desert, years after he became a Gunslinger and the world had moved on.

This would have been not even a year before his meeting with the man in black, who as >>64972056 said, ages him considerably.
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>>64972033
Prove it. He's married.
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>>64972087

nigga just google it

he's basically middle-aged when he finally catches up with the man in black which is at the end of book one THEN he ages further.
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>>64971636
>Age, race, or appearance shouldn't factor into casting only talent.
How progressive, I can't wait for Shaft, staring dame Judi Dench.
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>>64972059
>Retards always fuck up his stories

Yea, and he himself is one of those retards.
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>>64972174
not unless race is a critical component of the character or would be 100% weird and out of place for the setting. None of which apply in the fake alternate universe of DT where there are vampires, ghosts and other assorted bullshit
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>>64972156
Roland is literally thousands of years old.
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the ending was fucking retarded

why can't Stephen King write endings, it's such bullshit
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>casting anyone but Jamey Sheridan for the role of the man in black (ie Randall Flagg)
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>>64972227
>there are vampires, ghosts and other assorted bullshit
What does that matter? There's vampires so that means Queen Latifah can be Roland! Do you not see how silly that is? It's 2016 your argument has been torn to shreds 100 times over.
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>>64972227
>not unless race is a critical component of the character
>none of which apply

You went full retard. Not only does Roland's race have importance to his characterization, it has importance to OTHER character's characterizations. You change Roland to a black man, you lose a shit ton of characterization that makes sense. As it is, DT already has a god damn interracial couple. And by making Roland a black man, the hollyjews will force whoever writes and directs this piece of shit to make sure that Roland is a likable character, when the fact is that Roland is a piece of shit in the first book, and through much of the second.
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>>64972114
He's literally the exact same age as Elba
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>>64972270
Toobad, we're getting Matthew McConehay fucking however its spelled.
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>>64972240
Considering time is wonky in DT universe and he has gone through the journey countless times, yes he's basically ancient.

However, biologically he is middle aged at the beginning of Gunslinger.
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>>64971527
>being libertarian in 2016

It's time to go back.
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>>64972227
Chris Pratt as Blade.
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>>64972297
there's vampires so there can also be black people so a black man could play Roland

>>64972318
>DT already has a god damn interracial couple
guess what, make the chick non-black and you have another interracial couple. Boy would that rustle your acne though
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>>64972269
IT's ending was fucking beautiful. I felt like part of the Loser's Club and the whole "forgetting eachother" shit plays masterfully when you realize as a reader the story and emotions fade and fade from your mind.
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He's a good actor, why do people care? It's not like the Dark Tower was high-literature to begin with.
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>>64972379
here's your (You)
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>>64972373
well that's who Cletus ITT would gladly have as Roland so why not
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>>64972369
OPEN BORDERS AND NO MINIMUM WAGE IS THE BEST THING FOR SOCIETY LMAO
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>>64972391
SK has said he doesn't remember writing 2/3rds of IT because he was so fucked up on painkillers and coke. And it really shows. IT is probably my favorite SK book.
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>>64970793
jews built the pyramids
enslaved by blacks
>literally the only thing theyve done right ever
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>>64972395
/pol/ starts researching books when there's a possibility that a white character would be black in some adaptation

it's weird, I bet most of these kids hadn't heard of the books before this thread
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>>64972373
I dunno if Chris Pratt could do a role like that, but why not?
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>>64969582
tbqh stepfam, americans deserve this, the nigger problem went out of their control long ago.
I'm so happy to live in a country where the nigger problem was quickly resolve and i don't have to deal with this shit never
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>>64972379
I know this is bait and you never actually read the books, but a quick google search will show you that the relationship is between Eddie and Sussanah, not Roland and Sussanah :)

>inb4 make all the males black and have the chick be the only white girl

Wouldn't surprise me. She can call them niggers and think they're going to rape her all the time. That would be lovely.
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>>64971400
>Odetta
wait... there is already a Black hero as a main character?!
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>>64972433
all of his best stuff is from when he was fucked up
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The whole Susannah Dean and Roland thing is fucked now. She hated his cracker ass in the first book.

Besides, dark tower series only works as a television series not a movie.
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>>64972496
>the relationship is between Eddie and Sussanah, not Roland and Sussanah
oh so Roland being black now has 0 effect on the story?
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>>64972433
All of his masterclass stories were written while he was high as hell. That's not a bad thing in the least. He's not a crane operator. The stoner character at the end weirded me out though for sure. "FAR OUT MAAAAAAAAAAN" kek
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>>64972502
Pretty much everything that he wrote after his wife threw his drugs away was utter fucking garbage. Doctor Sleep is probably the best example of this.
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>>64972461
That's kinda pathetic if true, even for /pol/.
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>>64972533
You got me fammalam, how could I possibly survive in the face of such carefully crafted bait?
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>>64972539
>Doctor Sleep
don't fucking remind me
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>>64972516
>The whole Susannah Dean and Roland thing is fucked now. She hated his cracker ass in the first book.

That's the point you idiot. They were never going to show odetta calling him a cracker honkey rapist faggot because it would stir up way to much shit. Just think of how the tumblr crowd would react to a scene of two white men trying to help a black woman and she was just being an awful cunt.
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>a bunch of plebs in denial getting emotional over a Stephen King adaptation

Stay riled you field-tilling commoners.
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>>64972533
It has an effect on hers and Roland's relationships, but its not a romantic one.
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>>64972601
sounds like an incredibly minor issue, like this whole thread
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>>64972318
Why shouldn't a Dark Tower movie change some stuff up, stand on its own for a bit? A straight 1:1 adaption would be boring, at least for those who read the books.
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>>64972596
So they'll have to show a white woman calling a black Roland a nigger or a black woman calling him an uncle tom and eddie and cracker? It's impossible to characterize any of them without some racism.
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>>64972569
>>64972461
>/pol/ is some far removed alien creature that never reads books, plays video games, or watches movies or tv

/pol/ is you. it's all of you.
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>>64972621
SJW please. It effects the interactions of the 3 main characters.
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>>64972539
>>64972581
Doctor Sleep is the closest we'll get to a Scooby Doo novel
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>>64972621
Pretty much, yeah.
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>>64970638
>hood nigga
did you even watch the wire?
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>>64972621
/tv/ in a nutshell.
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>>64972645
>missing the point this hard

They're not going to play the racial aspect of it you fool. No matter which one is black, they were never going to do that scene anything like in the books. She will just call him an asshole and other generic insults instead.
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>>64971128
>clearly hasn't read the book
The whole of the early interaction between Roland and Detta is about race. It literally makes the interaction between Detta and Roland meaningless.
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>>64972633
Sure you can change some stuff up. But fundamentally shifting the characters to fit some kind of diversity quota kills it. They would have to completely rewrite the first two books in order to make sure they don't offend anyone.

A straight 1:1 adaptation would actually be pretty great. I'd love to see Roland slaughter a whole town and then let a little boy fall to his death. Make him black and see if those establishing scenes stay in
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>>64972633
>A straight 1:1 adaption would be boring, at least for those who read the books.
It's fair to defend an adaptation doing its own things, but fans that read source materials usually prefer shit being 1:1. Typically changes from the story are fucking awful too so it's really logical. Look at Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead... their original shit is usually garbage. (inb4 you write those 2 stories off because you're a fucking sheep)
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> Idris Elba is a great actor
Where does this meme come from? He's good don't get me wrong but he's like the ultimate B-grade actor, with nothing memorable in his career.

He always plays the general in zombie/alien movies, he was a big guy in Thor....like what? Mandela? Fuck off.

Why ruin the source material like this by hacking apart characterization and character interactions? There's literally no excuse for this considering the amount of actors that fit the bill they could have tried for.
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>>64972699
That's the crux of it anyway, and what pisses me off most.
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Would someone be able to explain why this is so bad without resorting to it being done for being progressive, or whatever. Is the character being white a plot based issue?
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They're taking all our white characters

We can't keep letting them get away with it
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>>64969582

Where in the Fucking books does it ever say that Roland is white you Motherfuckers you!
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>>64972748
Read the thread.
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>>64972704
especially when you consider the whole point of the dark tower it's is supposed to be as 1:1 as possible.

Eddie literally points out that Roland IS Clint Eastwood when they're walking through New York because the overlapping of the universes is such a huge fucking plot point
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>>64972766

>"White-ass honkey!"
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>>64972703
>But fundamentally shifting the characters to fit some kind of diversity quota kills it
But Idris Elba is a damn good actor. So even if it's to fill up some quota, they picked a good guy for the job.

It's like picking Marlon Brando for a white guy quota.
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>>64972748
How about you read the thread? This has been answered multiple times.
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>>64972699

>Throws Detta Walkers character right out the window.

Might as well rewrite the whole story.
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>>64972720
>Nothing memorable
The wire.
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>>64972766
>inb4 someone finds the source in the first or second book
>it clearly states he's white
>white with fear, it's an expression!
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>>64972785
that phrase was never gonna be in the movie regardless of Roland's casting so this s a non-issue
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>>64972748
Read the thread.
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>>64969799
Are you fucking kidding me? First Sonyggers ruined gaming, now they're ruining film?
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>>64972720

>Where does this meme come from?

Watch 'The Wire' you fucking newposter.
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>>64972748
How about you read the Dark Tower series if you care? That'll explain things better than some fuckhead online. Owait you don't actually care at all.
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I just want to know whats the official 'reason' behind such decision
Because logically, there could be only three:
- We hire a black guy because literally no white actor currently working in Hollywood is capable of portraying that white character
- We hire a black guy because its director's 'vision', and he's colour blind
- We hire a black guy to appear progressive as fuck/get some free controversy PR

None of these really sound convincing.
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>>64971155
Sure looks like it
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>>64972787
Just because he's a good actor, doesn't mean he's a good fit. If "good actor" is the only criteria required to fulfill a role, why doesn't anyone cast him as a proud latina woman? The argument falls flat whenever you apply it to anything but a white character, because nobody cares if you blackwash a white character.
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Threads like this remind me why I stay away from /tv/. Ya'll spend so much time talking about politics and trivial shit, you never talk about movies and TV.
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>>64969582

Do British niggers really count as niggers?

I haven't met one yet so I can't really comment from experience.
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Holy fuck the amount of cucks in this thread. The amount of people saying its no big deal when they clearly haven't read the novels.
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>>64972863
Don't forget about baneposting and waifus.
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>>64972831
his accent is good but his acting isn't all that, newfag
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>>64972790
>Might as well rewrite the whole story.

Yea they probably will.

And I GUARANTEE that they will make the Crimson King an amorphous cloud of darkness like galactus and parallax.
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>>64972766
even King assure Roland is white. it's canon.
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>>64972837
>we hire a black actor because it's between him, John Krasinski and Ian Ziering and we actually want our movie to be good
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>>64972863
You're correct, but you should admit you're a hypocrite for sucking corporate dick for blackwashing an iconic character.
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>>64972772
>Eddie literally points out that Roland IS Clint Eastwood when they're walking through New York because the overlapping of the universes is such a huge fucking plot point
THIS
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>>64972850
Honestly tho, if the guy is a good actor, and the casting director has made no indication of doing it for progressive reasons, why would you get worked up?

Clearly they have something planned, or they decided (the writers, or Stephen King, depending) that it's not that big of a problem.
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>>64972869
Not really. There's less gang warfare and fewer shitty rolemodels like Tupac for them to emulate, so they grow up better than their American counterparts. I think I read somewhere that in England, location is more indicitive of criminal behaviours than race is.
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>>64969582
how about I write a series of high selling acclaimed novels and mention that the main character is black, and then I get the ok to make it into a series or movie

now, i hand it over to the casting fucks and production crews and shit and they change the main character into a white male instead of a black guy like was written

would the black community get upset?
would there be outrage in hollywood?

so then, why can't the whites get a bit miffed about this shit tier decision

he's a good actor and all, but fuck that progressive grab bag bullshit
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>>64972915
>John Krasinski
mmm ok Elba is a good choice.
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>>64972915
What, these three were the only ones within their budget capabilities?
Cause I'm sure Jon Hamm would work for food.
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>>64972919
I honestly do not care either way.
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>>64972943
Either read the thread or read the books, it's the only way you can actually see why it's a big deal.
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>>64972929
What are you trying to say here?
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>>64969582
Stephen King allows this? What a cuck
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>>64972837
May as well make Henry Bowers and Pennywise coons while they're at it. We're just racist neckbeards for pointing out the obvious holes.
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>>64972981
it's not all about the money, there could be scheduling issues, some actors would probably reject the part etc.

in any case Elba would be near the top of the list of any 4-5 actors you line up and there's no guarantee a white A lister was ever in line for this
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>>64972793
>>64972831
So he plays one good role in a TV series and you suck his dick? Cucks.
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>>64972991
I'm sorry, I only read the first book, and clearly some randos on a shitposting collective know better than professional writers.
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>>64973007
Keep in mind this is the guy who petitioned the Maine statehouse to take more somali refugees.
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Why don't you retards read the article? Their source is "Lawyer's Herald", and their article is pure bullshit. All they have is the same " maybe" statement from before? It's all bullshit, he isn't confirmed for anything. I mean, I have no issue with black people playing black characters. But white characters shouldn't be recast with black actors, and vice versa. The most important aspect of a book-to-movie adaption is accuracy (unless they don't want the same ending or something, but that's different). The characters are the characters, they shouldn't be changed.

http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles/26642/20160112/dark-tower-officially-casts-idris-elba-roland-deschain-january-2017.htm#disqus_thread

Read here, it's not confirmed, the article is bullshit.
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>>64972876

>when they clearly haven't read the novels

Why the fuck would I invest time into reading subpar literature?
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The people always screaming about race in movies actually have a point in this case. The character of Roland is supposed to be white because of characters he meets later and their dynamic. Idris is a good actor in an age where we celebrate mediocrity. It's all just unfortunate.
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>>64973007
Judging by his commentary over the years, he's powerless in this shit. Have to wonder why he didn't hold filming rights a tad more close to heart like other authers. It ain't like successful faithful hard Rs couldn't have gotten made. It ain't like he wouldn't be rich just from his books. Fucking junky.
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GILEAD IS BLACK
ARTHUR WAS BLACK
WE WUZ KNIGHTS AND SHEEEIT
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Matthew can play Roland and Idris can play the man in black.

>yfw the producers were trolling all along.
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>>64973080
For fun.
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>>64973067
>The most important aspect of a book-to-movie adaption is accuracy

Kubrick says hello
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>Let's make a movie out of this book
>A pretty big part of this character is that he's white
>Who cares, let's make him black, because why not?
People should make their own stories with black characters instead of doing this shit
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>>64973061
Many posters among the shitposter collective have pointed out several instances throughout the series as to why Roland's race is critical to the characterization of the ka-tet.

>>64973067
Also this. They'll most likely get some nobody so they can lock down a cheap contract for all the movies, ala star wars.
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>>64973115
Most of Kubrick's movies including The Shining are fucking stupid. It's a movie you enjoy ironically because Muh Nicholson being wacky! Which is fine but it's not something to defend when it's supposed to be a work of art.
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>>64973125
And why exactly, must an adaption be 100% accurate?
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>>64973112
Oh man, I hope they do this and cary on the facade throughout post production, only revealing after the first ever public screening.
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>>64973115
I would say that Kubrick's work is an expecption to the rule.
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>>64973043

>claim he was in nothing memorable
>cite something memorable in response
>you fall apart and start to meme

Seems like idiocy has cucked you out of basic intelligence.
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>>64973158
this fucking guy
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They color changed in shawshank and nobody gave a fuck because organ freeman put in A a plus motherfucking performance why should o give a shit now
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>>64973164
You cite a TV single series as why this guy has memorable roles enough to ruin the source material of a King book.....
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>reading Stephen King in the first place
This is where you fucked up.
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>>64973080
Yeah, as a true patrician you invest time into reading 4chan posts
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>>64973210
Was /tv/ even a thing back then? Was the Shawshank Redemption safe from shitposting?
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>>64973080
lmao what is up to your par, bassmouth
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>>64973233
old King is great

basically it's the monkeys writing Shakespeare argument. In King's case he wrote a couple good books amid all the shit
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>>64973212

>You cite a TV single series

One of the most critically lauded of all time, yes.

And the words we were initially responding to were "nothing memorable". How are you this messed up over anon simply responding and saying that this isn't true? Did your last girl start to go and get deepdicked by black guys behind your back or something? The guy has been in at least one memorable thing. It isn't the end of the world to concede this.
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>>64973158
I honestly have no words or images for this.
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>>64973112
Actually fuck that. I'd rather have a blackie than McCunnyheys deadbeat mumbling performance
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>>64973210
yeah and his name was Red because he was a flaming red ginger

boy can you imagine the shitposting that would ensue here
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>>64973212
But it's the fucking Wire dude. That, he was not bad at all in Luther.
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>>64973289
Pretty sure King takes peoples money to put his namee on their books. It's the only way that makes sense for me that he manages to shit out so many books and why the quality varies so much.
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>>64973271
>was /tv/ a thing in 1994
Someone forgot Gump posting
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>>64973354
It would spell the end of /tv/, at least for a week.
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>>64973210
Morgan Freeman proved to be the GOAT narrator with a stellar performance of a character that only had a racial issue with his name being Red. I don't remember any character interactions/relationships relying on him being Irish?
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>>64973210

Because the story focuses on race many times.
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>>64973317
Of course you don't. I bet you didn't get into Kubrick until 8th grade at least.
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>>64973235

In between reading good lit, yes.

Enjoy your genre fiction.
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>>64973402
you got blown out dude, just sit back and soak in it
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>>64973357
You can give King a lot of shit, but he has intergity. He did the whole Bachman experiment just to prove to himself that he's more than a name. Last 3 Dark Tower books turned out shitty because he realised his obligation to readers to finish the 20+years old opus instead of dragging it forever like a certain fat bearded person
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>>64969582
As long as we get some warm black dingus action, I couldn't care less.
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>>64973448
Yeah okay.
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>>64973431
>calls himself patrician
>doesn't read Gene Wolfe
>MFW
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>>64973431
>Enjoy your genre fiction
Thanks, you too!
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>>64970793
Is that why the Egyptians built the Pyramids instead of blacks?
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>>64973461
>just to prove to himself that he's more than a name
that doesn't really make sense since he invented Bachmann way at the start of his career so he could publish more books
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>>64973402
Just stop, please.
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>>64973461
Bachman was at the start of his career, before slapping his name on a horror novel would make it a best seller.
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>>64970323
actually, many slave owners taught them to read, specifically so they could read the motherfucking bible
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>>64972461
>implying at least half of /pol/ don't browse other boards and absorb culture like all the other shut ins here in this shit hole
it's w/e/ family to be honest
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>>64970025

King would sell his mother to Hollywood so there's that too.
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/pol/ was right again. It starts with fiction and slowly creeps into history and culture. 100 years from now people would think Einstein and Roosevelt were black. Kojima tried to warn us all and we didn't listen
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>>64973115
They're an exception. They were good, even great as movies imo, on most aspects except accuracy to the books. You can have a movie that is good just as a movie, but shit as an adaption.
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>>64970788
For some reason I think your mother is white.
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>>64973606
>100 years from now people might think Kojima was a good writer

this is the most chilling thought of all
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Why does Elba have to rob deserving actors?
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>>64973539
Am I wrong?
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>>64973162
If it's an adaption, then yes. If it's some book based spin off crap shoot, then who gives a shit? No. I mean, that's like saying Straight Outta Compton (shit imo, but I'll use it as an example) could have been casted with all white actors because it wasn't 100% accurate to the NWA story. Not defending it, but it would be stupid to cast those main characters as white guys, as stupid as casting this main character as a black guy.
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Beam is a flat circle, Roland
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>>64973670
>Koral
>deserving of anything
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>>64973670
>CUUUURL...I mean JAAAAAAAKE
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>>64973727
NWA was based on real people
DT is based on fake people
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>>64969582
>Using diversity as a crutch to get your project mainstream attention.

Fucking stop please.
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>>64973753
>>64973781
Poster count stayed the same between these replies that are only a minute apart
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>>64973823
Autism.
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>>64973823
maybe because we both posted before in the thread you moron
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If they really had to get a black guy for this they should have gotten Danny Glover.
Roland is literally too old for this shit and Glover already proven he can play badasses very well.
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>>64973853
Maybe it's no coincidence that your 2 posts coincides with the anti-spam counter. Why are you so defensive?
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>>64969582
He's going to play Roland?
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>>64973884
you sound like a perfect candidate for janitor

someone get this man some hot pockets
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>Is in talks
>better completely lose our shit and give buzzfeed something to write for for the next few months

Alright. Lets brainstorm twitter hashtags.
How about #DARKTowernotBlackTower
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>>64971324
Trump winning PA, FL, CO, IL, NM

wew lad
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>>64973727
I gotta agree with the other Anon, Straight Outta Compton was based off a true story. Making the blokes in that film white is like making Askia Mohammad white, or George Washington black.

Roland ain't real.
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>>64973883
he looks ready to die from a gust of wind or a bad pun

Glover was too old for this shit back in 1987 for Lethal Weapon
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>Blacks want "equal representation" in Hollywood
>Studios cast black actors in white roles to create buzz about their film.

How come they don't realize they are being exploited?
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>>64973962
Why does it make a difference if they're "real" or not, especially when NWA were fake ass shills? You sound like a drone when with your non-argument.
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>>64973972
Im sure some of them do, it's the white hyper-liberals that are buzzing about this.
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>>64974012
Because changing the race of a real person is insulting to that individual's legacy and/or relatives.

The only people getting insulted by Black Roland is a bunch of nerds.
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>>64973972
>stop paying me millions of dollars, this is exploitation
Yeah it's a real tragedy
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>>64974080
>Because changing the race of a real person is insulting to that individual's legacy and/or relatives.
How so?
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>>64974080
>Because changing the race of a real person is insulting to that individual's legacy and/or relatives.
Why? What are you, racist?
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>>64974100
I know minority actors/filmmakers will pocket millions and then bark about representation. I was referring to the audiences who believe minority castings like this are progressive, when in reality its used as a marketing ploy.

Sony isn't funding an all female ghost busters because they want to be seen as progressive, there is money to be made off this current trend. Same goes for Chief Kief being replaced by a black guy on 24.
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>>64973972
>please stop giving blacks starring roles in AAA blockbuster movies
>please stop exploiting us
I wonder why they aren't up in arms over this mistreatment...
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>>64970705

>The thing that gets me is that this negates the interracial relationship

>>64970835

It also negates the crazy shit she had to break through to become a functioning member of the ka-tet.

Now she's just going to be a crazy redneck racist who hates dem darkies until Rolando Jones shows her the error of her white devil ways.

I like Elba but this was a dumb as fuck casting call. I don't expect anything but praise from Stephen "Guns are scary, read my books about gunslingers" King though.
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More like Nigger Tower, amirite?
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>>64969582
Well, it's not called dark tower for no reason, if you catch my drift
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