http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/ 01/idris-elba-confirmed-

Fucking awesome choice.

Unfortunately everything else about this will probably be shit.

>>64940862

>Roland has been portrayed as white from the start
>Blue Eyes
>His race plays into his interactions with other characters
>Susannah hates him because he's a honky
>Supposed to look like Stephen King

No chance this movie wont be a hack job adaptation.

>>64940933
Who cares really, the only relevant thing about any of that is the Stephen King part, which is retarded and would never be referenced in any of these films anyway

>>64940972

Spoken like somebody who doesn't know shit about the source material.

i actually don't mind idris elba, he's a decent actor

still kinda weird they went with that choice when he's basically described as clint eastwood, but they could've chosen worse

Roland is white.

Jesus fuck christ this is retarded. I love Idris but this is the equivalent of getting a white boi faggot to play Morpheous in a Matrix sequel.

why do redditors like this guy?

If they just HAD to go with a black guy then Elba's a good choice. I guess.

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Its not that I don't think Idris can nail this. He's a great actor with a ton of presence. Its just a really jarring casting decision when not only has he always been portrayed as white within the novels, illustrations and comics, but his race is actually a big part of how major characters interact with him and their arcs.

Javier would have been more appropriate and he's also a pretty fucking great actor.

>>64941364
Javiar isn't white and he just isn't that good of an actor to play the role. Idris is a better actor, except the main character is white.

This is like casting an Asian to replace Batman. Retarded.

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>>64941320

You see, its the DARK Tower. The Dark Tower was always a metaphor for a giant black cock. Its like poetry.

>>64940796
>Everyone knows Viggo is perfect for Roland
>They cast a fucking black guy, just because they know it'll stir up controversy, and get people talking about a movie that your average moviegoer would probably just ignore

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>>64941387

>Vigo will never play Roland Deschain

>>64940796
Rolando Dishiiiiten

>>64941432
Shit Viggo Mortensen would've been great. Wtf.

>>64940933
>>Supposed to look like Stephen King
Are you fucking retarded?

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>not Scott Eastwood

How could they fuck up this bad?

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>>64941471

Are you?

>>64941453
They dropped the ball, hard. Viggo is a handsome guy, yet has that worn out haggard look. Plus, he's got that soft spoken, but commanding presence.

I don't mind Idris Elba as an actor, but just what the fuck were they thinking?

>>64941474
Too young looking. They'd have to sunbathe him with an overdone sun tan and digitally add cgi wrinkles to his face to look the part.

>>64940796
please tell me this is a joke

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>The Dark Tower's Producer Has A Blunt Message For Those Who Don't Like Idris Elba

>"I'm unbelievably proud of it as a collaborator on this enterprise and because I think that he's a great actor and I couldn't be more thrilled that he is likely to play a part... I understand that people who are thoughtful about the storytelling and the racial politics of the storytelling might want to understand how that informs that storytelling, and I respect that and I hear that, and those things are not things we didn't think about or don't think about. The racist assholes should go fuck themselves."

>"The racist assholes should go fuck themselves."

>>64941567
fuck him honestly

painting people who want an accurate adaptation as racists is retarded

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>>64941387
>Javier isn't white

I always pictured a Clint Eastwood type.

I guess this is at least going to be something different from how I pictured the books.

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Clint will never play Roland :(

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>>64941598

And its going to work. All the discussion about this movie for the next two years is going to be a complete clusterfuck between people who never read the books and love how progressive it is, and the fans who have been reading this shit for nearly 3 decades trying to quietly explain why this is a bad choice without sounding racist whilst being shouted down the whole time. Oh baby.

>>64941599
Hahaha cool Tumblr gif haha, I LOVE BREAKING BAD!

SKYLER I AM THE DANGER

THE ONE WHO KNOCKS HAHAH KEK!

Can I save it? Haha Just for laughs HAHA!

>>64941567
>They're already spinning the racial casting controversy shlick.

This movie is not Star Wars, its gonna be a disaster.

>>64941598

He points out they are a separate entity from the racist assholes.

Both can essentially go fuck themselves though because stunt casting won out which indicates this film is being handled by hacks.

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FUCKING WHY

FUCK

I've been waiting for this shit for so long, man. So fucking long. Of all the films they had to cuck up it just had to be this. Fuuuuuck

>>64941567

Wow, great PR.

Black Panther should be played by chinese actor

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>>64941761
hahaha let's cast a nigger as the white character because DIVERSITYYYYYYYYYY

fuck this shit

>>64941336
Because he's black and has a nice speaking voice.

Redditors/SJW/Tumblrites will always flock to black people like him and Morgan Freeman because "omg, you're so racist! Look at this person! They are as polite and intelligent as any white person! RACIST!"

>Meanwhile for every single black person like this, there are literally millions of witch burners, ghetto gang rapists, and drug dealers.

>>64941723
Finn was a new character & SW has always had major black characters, this is changing a character whos whiteness was important to the story for a political agenda

>>64941758
Don't worry anon, in a few years everyones favorite franchises will get cucked up.

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>>64940796
What the fuck? Isn't Roland supposed to basically be a supernatural Clint Eastwood? Why didn't they just cast Eastwood's son?

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>>64941738

>Hacks

>The guy who wrote Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Lost in Space, Starsky and Hutch, Jonah Hex and produced Paranormal Activity 2 through 4.

Wow, hope you enjoy being proven so wrong so easily. Destroyed!

>>64941828
wow thats almost impressive in a way

the only writer with a worse filmography is roberto orci

You whites piss me off, you push black actors, but never fund the adaptations of works by black writers, I'm onto you white supremacy.

>>64940933
he was suppose to look like Clint Eastwood, King said so himself

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>>64941702
It' yours, fag

>>64941637
>>64941650
>Not choosing Franco Nero

>>64941849
seriously

Static Shock? Where the fuck is his movie?

>>64941504
he looks more like clint eastwood than a self insert, but then again i guess i can kinda see if i look hard enough

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>take an established fictional character from science-fiction and make them black for no other reason than you being a mindless Leftist drone

Oh boy, because this strategy totally worked-out the last time they did it, huh?

>>64940862
Confirmed for never reading the books, nice b8

>>64941849

>but never fund the adaptations of works by black writers

Then write some that don't suck balls.

>>64941697
Every non-4chan discussion I've seen on this casting choice has been:

A) People (primarily teenage/20-something girls) who "don't get what the big deal is", and who admit to only having read the first book, or not at all.

B) Longtime fans, who want an accurate portrayal of Roland.

C) Kneejerk reactionaries who are always chomping at the bit for an opportunity to call people racist.

That's the primary motivation for this casting choice: to drum up controversy, and get people talking. At its outset, Dark Tower would probably look like a Western to your average joe six pack, so it probably would have been ignored otherwise.

>>64941819
I know, but what I was trying to say was they were prob thinking they could do the same as TFA and take the risk of marketing another major franchise with diversity. Cept TFA wasn't risk taking since you could've casted an all furry cast and it still would've broken a billion plus.

>>64941873

>"Eddie Dean sees Stephen King as a young man and recognizes that he and Roland share many of the same physical features, saying that Roland could be King's father."

>>64941336

Because he is:

1. Black
2. Competent to some degree

That's literally all it takes to get Leftists to suck your dick these days.
Case in point: Neil de Assface Tyson.

>>64941795
Just jump into any Gods of Egypt trailer on youtube, look at the comments, and see they hypocrisy in action. All that "Skin color doesn't matter" goes right out the window.

>>64941828
Oh christ, this never had a chance to start with.

>>64941937

To be fair Idris Elba is a great actor. He's just black, which doesn't fit with this character. It'd be fine if Roland's race just didn't matter, but its a big part of how other characters see him.

>>64941849
There's plenty of influential and rich black people out there. Go bitch at them.

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So how many of these shitty race-bait movies have to flop hard before Hollywood remembers the bottom-line?

Or are Liberals so entrenched in their ideals that promoting their dogma is now worth millions in lost profits every year?

>>64942003

>Akiva Goldsman
>Goldsman

Yessss goyim! Yesss!

>>64941907
Fucking good. Let shit casting choices like this flop a few times, so they'll learn their lesson. I hate that Roland has to be a sacrificial lamb in this situation, but I guess it's for the greater good.

>>64941849
>You whites piss me off, you push black actors
im with you, my man, let's not push black actors anymore.

>>64942006

>It'd be fine if Roland's race just didn't matter

No it wouldn't.

Arbitrarily changing a character's race, even if the narrative isn't about race, is still showing that you care dick about the source-material and that you have a blatant political-agenda.

Al Simmon's race didn't really matter either, and I still don't want a white or hispanic Spawn. Same with Blade.
Why should this be any different?

>>64942124

Because your racist if you don't want all characters to be black.

>>64942124
BECAUSE ITS "INSERT YEAR" ANON!

Why do Liberals feel the need to ruin everything good?

A lot of people were looking forward to a Dark Tower adaptation, and they for no reason decide to piss all over it.

Do they just hate fun?

>>64942183

Why do you have to be so racist? Can't you just open your mind a bit and allow a black man into your wife? Think about it and maybe you'll become a better person.

>>64941474
They needed someone who can act.

>>64942065
>My niece is a HUGE fan of Annie.
>She listens to the soundtrack, knows all the songs by heart, watches the old movie religiously, and even had a small part in a local stage production.
>I hear about the new movie.
>"Hey (niece), are you excited for that new Annie movie?"
>She shoots me a look like I just told her that I fucked her mother (my sister).
>"No, I think it looks really stupid."

>>64940972
>Who cares really
This isn't an argument, reddit. This is one of the few times a character being a white man is important.

FUCK CHARLES MINOR

>>64942266
Your niece is a white supremacist anon.

>>64941567
So you deliberately hired a black man for an adaptation that clearly has a white protagonist.....to spite racists.

Kill yourself and then drown your entire family in that order.

>mfw this film will BFTO /Tv/ again like TFA
Hahahah I literally cannot fucking wait

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>>64942360
>like TFA

>>64941261
it was cringeworthy in the book and it would be even more cringeworthy in the movies, especially for people who don't understand the dark tower universe

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>This movie will fail because its being done by total hack frauds
>You'll never see Blaine the Mono put to film

>>64942378

Well you've established this is a great movie for people who don't care about the franchise in the least. Good job.

>>64942345

I really don't know how this piece of shit >>64941828 keeps on getting work.

>Goldsman

Oh...

Shaft can be white now at least.

>>64942412
how would they profit off a movie if the only people they give any fucks about are the people who have read the series

>>64941873
I could buy King being delusional enough that he thinks he looks like Clint Eastwood.

The Gunslinger won't be successful enough to warrant any sequels.

But if DotT gets made Based Jake Gyllenhaal should be Eddie.

>>64941907
As much as I hate these forced diversity casting choices, black Human Torch was the least of that movie's problems. They could have cast anyone and that piece of shit still would have flopped.

>>64942124
>blade's race doesn't matter
kek

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>>64942474

>>64942124
If its not important to the story, it doesn't matter.

You're a purist, who thinks that EVERYTHING is important to the story, and the person you're responding to isn't.

>>64942674
Either way going by this casting choice, Blade can be white.

>>64942701

If it "doesn't matter" then why are Leftists so obsessed with making white characters black?

>>64942701

>durrrr hurrrr just rewrite everybody as being black muslim genderqueers, only nerds care about this sort of thing!

This is why people don't care about your opinions.

>>64940796
If I just start acting like I like black people will they stop forcing them into every thing?

I've heard good things about the book, I'm assuming they're going to turn it into a trilogy?

>>64942740

>I'm assuming they're going to turn it into a trilogy?

Not with how hard this is going to flop.

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>>64941445
Viggo would be great for the role. He's got the look, and experience in westerns, as well as a great acting talent. But no, the retards in charge went with Idris for shock value or something. Kill yourselves, retarded fucks.

>>64942691
I'd love Jackman to play a hardboiled detective. He actually has more cool tough guy energy there than Roundtree.

>>64942740
This is a risky venture right out the gate. Obscure to normies,will call for a big budget and trying a 2 season bridge series on HBO. It was most likly gonna flop with a white lead.

>>64941824
>Why didn't they just cast Eastwood's son?
Why don't they at least try to get someone capable of acting? I'd take the stunt casting of Elba over that shit.

>>64940796
Good, at least I'm saving my time watching this crap. The books went full retard so the casting fits. Now please make susannah white and get that sweet nigger dick.

>>64942880
>Now please make susannah white and get that sweet nigger dick.

Of course they will anon, its 2016 for christ sakes!

>>64942065
Annie is a franchise that's been around for decades, always played by a new girl. Having the new one feature a black girl isn't that much of a stretch.

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Can Matthew Mcconaughey as the Man in Black save this movie? Apparently he has signed on or is close to.

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>>64942880
>>64942919
>make susannah white
>change her story so that she was crippled by an angry white mob that attacked her for dating a black man
Calling it now.

>>64942977
>The villain has to be white though!

kek

>>64940933
>Supposed to look like Stephen King
so...HOL UP

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>>64943035

MUFFAKA HONKY

>>64943136
WE
WUS
STEPHEN KING
N
SHEIT

>>64942266
your niece is awesome

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Who /Didn't read any of the books after wolves of the calla when the series started getting retarded/ here

>>64943445
I wish I stopped there. The last book was some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.

>>64941907
>make johnny black
>don't make sue black too

They just don't even give a shit anymore, everything is driven by quotas

>>64940796

welp, thats fucking ruined

>>64943547
Good to know I made the right call

Can you summarize what I missed

How does this affect Susannah

I have absolutely no clue how she could be made not black, not 1 clue

Roland I can kinda get and elba will manage but

What the fuck does this mean for SUSANNAH AND DETTA HELLO PLEASE RESPOND !?!?

>>64941883
Nero is the better Western actor.

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>>64941637

I always pictured him as Yul Brynner for some reason.

Let's be honest there was no way it was going to be good anyway, at least now I won't waste my time

>>64943601
Roland meets Crimson King. King is a crazy old idiot with a box of grenades (I'm not kidding). Then Roland asks God (not kidding) to erase Crimson King from existence (still not kidding) by drawing his picture and erasing it. He enters Dark Tower and its just a fucking gallery of his memories. The top floor door keks him back to book 1.

>>64943730

he fucking mailed it in just like this movie

>>64943642
She'll be a live action female version of Uncle Ruckas.

>>64941364
>>64941387
Javier has been blacklisted since talking shit about Israel so don't even bother

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>>64943730
What in the world

>>64943756
Top kek

>>64942929

She's sort of iconic for being a ginger girl

>>64943757
>talking shit about isreal
source?

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Just look at them sad blue eyes. How could they not cast mah nigga Daniel?

>>64943730

Literally not seeing the problem here. What did you want from the Crimson King? Some giant spider battle or some shit? The whole point was that the crimson king was a fucking loser.

>>64943601

Stephen King self inserts as a major character, Harry Potter merchandise is used as a weapon by the agents of the Crimson King, and the Crimson King himself is revealed to be a cackling old man throwing hand grenades, who is dispatched easily by Roland. Also rather than finding anything in particular at the top of the tower, Roland is sent back to the beginning, chasing the Man in Black across the desert, as punishment for being too single minded in his quest. Except this time he is carrying his friend's horn which he stopped to pick up in this repeat of history. It's implied that he's arrived at the tower hundreds of times, and he will keep doing it until he learns to do it "right", and become a better person.

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>>64943838

Daniel Craig or Michael Fassbender would have been great.

>>64943857
>The whole point was that the crimson king was a fucking loser.

What shitty, unrewarding, meaningless point.

>>64940796

King is an avowed diehard liberal so he will love it, the majority of his fans will probably not be happy but that happens sometimes. Django unchained pt.2

>>64943895

>Unrewarding

Evil isn't cool, dude. All the evil morons in the end get fucking wrecked like a bunch of pathetic dumbshits while Roland succeeds. Cry harderd.

>>64943869
Don't forget
>Man in Black dies to spider babby

>>64943557
One of them was adopted.

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>>64943931

None of it really bothers me because this shit happens over and over again forever anyways so it has all probably ended countless different ways before. In this permuation he got cucked by peter parker.

>>64942183
>Why do Liberals feel the need to ruin everything good?

That is their purpose

>>64940796

Stupid to do it as a movie. It should be a miniseries. Perfectly doable in this day and age. Making movies out of big sprawling novel series has never worked well.

>>64941911

I read the books. Like all of King's work, they were pulp trash for teenagers.

>>64942260

Too bad they didn't get someone who could

>>64943825

Now the icon has changed.

>>64943925

Evil is usually just as cool as good. In fact they are usually morally equal from an objective perspective.

King can't write. Roland still have succeeded while the Crimson King wasn't a weak bitch...which would have made Roland's victory even more important.

>>64940796
>this thread again
Back to /pol/.

I'm not even racist, but that shit is retarded. Roland is supposed to be a cross between cowboy and medieval knight, two of the whitest things ever, not to mention that his appearance is homage to Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name, which is told like a billion times in the novels. Not only that, but Susannah spends almost entire second novel hating Roland partly because he's white dude in a cowboy cosplay. In Wolves of Calla Roland allows himself a moment of joy and breaks into typical white trash hoedown. He's like the worst character to be pointlessly race-changed for no reason.

>>64944065

Please tell me some of your favorite books. Can't wait to hear what a liberal arts major has to say.

>>64941474
They needed someone who is not a manlet

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>>64941761
Its great PR because he knows white cucks are going to see it no matter what. They're focusing all their marketing on the dindu dollar.

>>64944046
Really rustled my jimmies, Flagg was the true arch-nemesis, Roland spent 20 years jerking around in a desert searching for this asshole, and then he dies basically off-screen.
Well, at least Mordred dies equally stupidly

>>64944113

He already got his spider fight out with Mordred.

>>64944131
a farewell to Arms by Hemingway
The Stranger by Albert Camus
Of mice and men by John Steinbeck
I also read a lot of Proust.

>>64944191

I don't know what that means because I stopped reading the books at Wizard and Glass when I was 15.

>>64944189

To be fair Flagg has died a bunch of times.

>>64941567
Nelson Mandela film starring Kevin James as Mandela when?
People would HAVE to love it, otherwise its racism ;^)

>>64940796
DARK tower

>>64944200

Like I said. Typical stock answer bullshit from liberal arts college faggots.

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>>64940796
Well he looks just like him

YO STRING
WHERE DA DARK TOWA AT YO
STRING

>>64944131

King was the first author I was into. After him I got into Orson Scott Card, then PK Dick, then Borges (Labyrinths is awesome).

In college I got into Proust. Every man should read La recherche du temps perdu.

Lately I have been reading non-fiction and have no favorites.

I don't give a shit that he's black it's the fact that he is absolutely not at all how king described him regardless of skin colour.

Roland should be lanky but incredibly lean. Idris will have to loose a lot of muscle mass(?) if he wants to look anything like Roland should.

>>64944131
>>64944281

And I'm a science major, specifically HLT.

>>64943445
me. I stopped at Wizard and Glass. King went full retard after that. And now he's pulling a George Lucas and putting out edited versions of the Gunslinger (which are awful.) The Gunslinger is the only book in the series I would defend as good literature, the rest are decent but won't do anything for you as a reader if you're not a huge fan of the series. And he's trying to ruin it

>>64944245

That wasn't me and the only thing I agree with there is Proust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9MiXZ7x-o

I just don't imagine Elba pulling this shit

>>64944312

Wizard and Glass was full retard. I had zero fucking interest in a backstory after Blaine's wild ride.

And such atrocious prose. King can go on and on about a white wall for pages.

>roland, a canonically white guy, played by a black guy

Why can't black people create their own characters?

>>64944083
No, the icon is still a little red haired girl.

>>64943857
>King spends books building the CK up to basically be Sauron-lite.
>He ends up being a crazy Santa Claus caught on a balcony, and is dispatched by an 11th hour retard.

I don't give a shit what the "point" was. It was the final battle of a 7 part book series that took over three decades to finish. It was anticlimactic as shit. Even if I ignored the final chapter per King's advice, I would have still been immensely dissatisfied.

>>64944342

Of the original comic book maybe.

>>64943838
Craig or Viggo.

>>64944349
He said in the book he wanted to fuck over the readers expectations, I guess as a big fuck you to his fans because they so often whine about his work.

>>64944312
>putting out edited versions of the Gunslinger
What has he changed?

>>64944339

Because they have historically been denied representation and hero figures on screen. This has an effect on growing up.

>>64944281
>actually using the French name even though you didn't read it in French

pretentious faggot

>>64944364
No, the iconic Annie is still a little red haired girl. I bet you think The Wiz is the definitive Wizard of Oz story.

>>64944349

What a triggered baby.

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>>64940796
Welp, that's another movie I won't be watching.

Have these people no shame?

Hope it flops.

>>64944387

none of his recent books have done shit
his fans are gone
he wanted the reddit audience well now he has it

>>64944387

Fans defend shit writing. Fans aren't the problem.

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>>64944334
>I come in the name of Stephen King, he of Maine!

>>64944413

Of course I read it in French, just as I read Labyrinths in Spanish. Even the title is a horrid translation.

>>64944389

Very little. Guy is just being an overly incensed faggot. Add one or two references and Roland thinks about the Horn once. Literally it.

>>64944338
>King can go on and on about a white wall for pages.
This. The motherfucker tries to put way too much detail into every environment. Just get on with the story you fucking hack.

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>casting a black guy for a character who is LITERALLY clint eastwood

>not casting jamey fucking sheridan who has already played the man in black

who the FUCK thought this shit would be a good idea?

Idris can still play the character white.
Think about it. Many American films are set in various places around the world, where they speak a different language. Yet only a few productions go through the trouble of having each character converse in the local language. Usually everyone just speaks English everywhere, and that's something we as an audience accept.1

So really it doesn't matter that a black actor is being cast to play a white character, as Idris is such a great actor he can just play the character white as it was canonically written to be in Clint Eastwood's western image

This is hilarious and none of you are seeing the point. The series is being made by Sony. They can purposely fuck with the scheduling so that he can't also play James Bond, which they also own. Either that or they can make the argument that one man shouldn't lead two of their big franchises. Idris Elba was the only black frontrunner to be the next Bond, by casting him in this they can avoid a black Bond without being called racists.

>>64944420

No, because now Annie has been played by a little frizzy-haired black girl. Have you been under a rock?

>>64944432
>Hope it flops.
It will.

>>64940972

Source material is always more important than your shit opinion about a series that you don't care about nor don't understand either.

>>64944464

The producers, who know that by doing so they will attract a wider audience while also getting free advertising because neckbeard racists are so upset and will talk and talk and talk about it online.

>>64944480
The icon is still a red haired girl. The new Annie movie doesn't change that. Do you think The Wiz is the definitive Wizard of Oz story? Answer the question.

I've read all the books (except the latest one, who cares) and I can't fucking remember anything from the last three, it was such a clusterfuck of shit happening
All that is left in my memory:
Wolves - Magnificent Seven ripoff, with brain sucking Dr. Dooms who throw Harry Potter snitches and get killed by really sharp plates
Song - is that the one where Roland gets raped by ghost who previous rapes Roland? Some weird shit happens, everything else is a fog. Was skyscaper build around rose and bird people in this?
Last one - Roland travels through Sonic The Hedgehog zones, while his retarded spidey son follows or something. The destroy brain suckage factory, everyone dies, RESET

>>64944477

Sony doesn't own Bond, dumb dumb.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spectre-Could-Last-James-Bond-Movie-Made-Sony-71800.html

>>64944407
Black people can only look up to other blacks? Having white heroes is detrimental to black children's growth?

That's insane.

Why does somebody have to be the same race as you to be able to inspire you?

And roland is white, canonically so. It's not like his race isn't defined.

>>64944465
Then Susannah can hate on him for being white, when he clearly isn't. I don't think Elba can act well enough to overcome that.

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Is he a cuck?

>>64944432
it will inevitably flop
most of the appeal of Dark Tower is linked to "conservative" ideas and manly shit
this cuck casting just killed the only chance this movie ever had
>>64944500
>he still thinks yelling "RACIST!" means anything
>>>/2015/

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>>64944444
>>64944444
Witnessed

>>64944496

The source material is never important when the author sells it to be done whatever with.

>>64944430
>I don't have a valid answer for that, so I'll just try to insult you.

What a non-response.

>>64944437
I'm not defending it, I liked the whole repeat things, "ka is a wheel" but the Crimson King, Mordred and the end of Randall flag's and Rolands ka-tet's stories was so disappointing.

But like I said, he gave a reason for it being shit which softens the blow for me a little personally.

>>64944503

Yes, the new black Annie changes the icon of Annie, in the same way the old cracker Annie's perpetuated the previous icon.

Most people have only seen the one Annie from the 60's anyway.

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>>64944464

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>>64944511

>everyone dies

“Death, but not for you, gunslinger. Never for you. You darkle. You tinct. May I be brutally frank? You go on.”

>>64944566
>he gave a reason for it being shit which softens the blow for me a little personally.
That only made it worse for me.

>>64944465
>Idris can still play the character white.

he cant because he cant act
he is a 1 trick pony, he plays niggaz
that is literally all he is capable of

>>64944522

>Black people can only look up to other blacks?

Yes, that's how racial psychology works. People tend to look up to those with like traits.

Are you white? What black man has inspired you?

Canon is totally irrelevant. King sold it.

>>64944432
>Hope it flops.
No doubt it will

>>64944444
I cum in the name of these quints

>>64944595

Just fuck off. Idiots like you just make it more difficult to lobby legitimate complaints.

>>64944531

I didn't yell racist, I merely typed it out. Sweet rebuttal though.

>>64944602
>What black man has inspired you?
MLK, Nelson Mandela, Usain Bolt, Denzel Washington

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>>64944602

OJ Simpson inspired me greatly.

>>64944624

only thing he ever did that was better than average was the wire, he is overrated and the only reason people "like" him is because they're not allowed not to

>>64944643

Cool so blacks who worked toward racial equality.

Say...what whites are famous for doing this?

>>64944595
You're a retard.

>>64944659
You're a double nigger faggot

I actually only started recently reading the series and got bored about 2/3rds of the way into the fourth book because I don't give a flying fuck about Roland's stupid love story where all characterization and reasoning for an inevitably tragic romance is "IT'S JUST KA," but it's disappointing to see a black actor, as cool as he is, shoehorned into a role for the sake of controversy/diversity.

It really won't make any sense if they get to the second book's material where one of the series' main characters (as far as I read anyway) has an entire arc of distrust and conflict as a result of a her being black and Roland and Eddie being white.

This is pretty dumb.

>>64944626
>sweet rebuttal
yeah, to such a fantastic argument worthy of attention
nigga
take a knee

>>64944650

You're a total idiot.

>>64944650
I know you're shitposting, but in case anyone else is curious, he was great in Luther and Beasts of No Nation as well.

>>64944643

Why would you be inspired by Denzel Washington?

>>64944658
>blacks who worked toward racial equality
Thanks for ignoring half the list.

>>64944678

>argument isn't worth attention
>that's why i keep replying

Thread's as full as it is going to get, you can stop shitposting now.

>>64944602
>What black man has inspired you?
Mohammed Ali
Maya Angelou

Doesn't mean I think all they did was great, but they did inspire me a great deal over the course of my life so far.

>>64944686
He's a great actor, and I was really into theater when I was younger.

>>64944602
eminem :)

>>64944706

I didn't ignore half the list, I addressed half the list and am saving the other half for a point.

So about those whites who worked for racial equality...?

Too many fucking white apologists defending black people.

I like Idris as much as the next white guy but if the story describes someone as a white person, keep them fucking white.
I'm sure blakc people would've have liked Straight outta Compton to be acted by white people.

>>64944659
>>64944679

good argument samefag I really see you're point.
your talentless pet nigger fucking sucks get over it.

>>64944728
Lincoln is cool in my book, in spite of some of the questionable shit he did in the war.

>>64944713

Maya Angelou isn't a man.

Ali is a violent thug who has Parkinson's. And he's from the 50's and 60's.

My point is that contemporary niglets have no role models.

>>64944712
take a fucking knee, son

>>64944747
I'm sure black people wouldn't have liked*

>>64944757

So a white man from literally more than a 100 years ago? Anyone else?

>>64944762

I have no idea what that means and can only assume you're Ausfailian.

>>64944789
it means sit down because you've been BTFO as someone with no idea of how to follow an argument
take a knee, faggot

>>64944789
> Anyone else?
Yes, many more, but could you get on with your shitposting, it's getting late here.

>>64944728
I'm not the guy you're talking to, but the way you're moving your goalposts by trying to round your way around to some unforeseen point has absolutely no bearing on the fact that a lot of people have role models or inspirations that are not the same race as them. You look absolutely terrible trying to worm the conversation into a sharp point that has nothing to do with what was being talked about.

I am not from Hong Kong or China, but Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan have been large influences on my life.

>>64944816

I'm already sitting down.

>>64944817

>many more

Such as?

>>64944759
>I-it doesn't COUNT WHA WHAWHA!!!!!

>>64944824

How have Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan been huge influences on your life?

How have they been role models?

>still a disgusting straight male
When will CIS oppression end?
Roland should be played by genderfluid indian lesbo with down syndrome.
If you don't agree you're racist

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>>64940796
I like him, but the perfect roland would be someone else

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>>64944658
Charlton Heston actually.

He marched for Civil Rights in the 60s. LOOK IT UP

>>64944759
>Someone has to be the exact same race as me to serve as an inspiration

The better question is when will this meme end. Can't anyone just draw a feeling of inspiration and ambition from the achievements of anyone else?

>>64944836

No, a woman does not count in a conversation specifying men. Sorry.

>>64944602
I have great respect for whites, arabs, and asians, who have all created vast empires and made the most contributions to agriculture, trade/economy, medicine, seafaring and navigation, math, philosophy, art, etc., all things that have improved our welfare and lifespan, mechanized our survival, and enriched our world with beauty.

I mean, TV and Film was invented by whites. The internet you're using right now was invented by whites. So is the computer, the mouse, and all the modern amenities in your house like flush toilets, microwave, electrical lighting. It's hard NOT to be inspired by white people's accomplishments.

Black people don't inspire me because they have very few accomplishments in history compared to other races. Sub-saharans have never developed any great civilization or advanced society with sophisticated institutions. Sub-saharans have never invented the wheel. They never revolutionized trade, warfare, statehood, and economy like other races have. Similarly I'm not inspired by native americans or australian abos, their societies and culture were primitive and they have very few people who have contributed anything to humanity's welfare.

>>64941445
>>64944864
;_;

>>64944831
stay there bitch nigga and you better have a dildo up your ass if you think racist actually means anything
dude look at the oscars last year and the outrage for only white nominees
no impact whatsoever and this year the same thing happened
these people have lost their power, being "racist" isn't shocking, it's becoming a norm slowly and steadily

that's what I'm trying to say in the midst of my shitposting

>>64944868

>participating in a march is working toward racial equality

That's the best you got?

>>64944877
>>Someone has to be the exact same race as me to serve as an inspiration

Yes, exactly. Feel free to offer counterexamples.

>>64944854
Are you asking just so you can say that it doesn't count?

Faglord.

I'm upset because I like The Dark Tower and I like Idris Elba but this shit is going to bomb now. It has no chance.

>>64944854
Bruce Lee is inspirational simply from an athletic perspective. I wish I could someday be that ripped and skilled in martial arts. Same goes for Jackie.

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>>64944754

Fuck off back to your containment board.

>>64944888

Arab isn't a race. Arabs are Caucasian.

The fact that you don't hold blacks as role models is my point. This is totally natural and this is why black kids need more heroes on the silver screen/ black mirrror.

>>64944914
He's just continually moving goalposts. I wouldn't bother, if I were you.

>>64944864
They'd never get him but you are right.

>>64944907

I will stay here it is quite comfortable.

I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post.

>>64944911
I knew a black kid once who looked up to David Bowie really hard, but I'm not sure what they're up to today so I don't know how the death affected them.

Also my white school teacher once said that she really looked up to Malcolm X as a child.

inb4 memes.,

I think you might be a bit too desperate to have some race based shitposting material. Have you tried going to pol to freshen your material a bit.

>>64944907
Too late, nobody cares about your "point" anymore.

>>64944914

No, I am asking so I know what you mean by "huge influences".

Especially Jackie Chan. But don't forget Bruce Lee.

Oh and also don't forget I asked specifically about black people, so ask yourself why you offered Asians instead.

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>>64944911
Yeah, typically participating in a march for civil equality constitutes as advancing civil and racial equality. He did a lot more than that though, he made the rounds on the nightly talk shows always insisted to be accompanied by black activists so they could get their message across on mainstream television. Look it up on youtube

Why are you such a salty bitch lmao baka desu senpai

>>64944911
>IT. DOESN'T. COUUUNT!!!!!

>>64944964
>>64944977
#BTFO
lmao you niggas keep sittin down, you got told

>>64944932

Are you an athlete? Do you practice martial arts? Or does his influence stop at "gee he has a nice body"?

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>>64944933

>>64944937

The goal post hasn't changed from "black kids don't have role models on screen".

>>64944976

So out of your entire life experience you can come up with two instances, neither of which are personal to you? This is my point.

>>64945007
>Shifting goalposts this hard
>It's no longer enough to feel admiration or inspiration due to someone's actions or ideologies, now you must emulate them precisely or else it doesn't constitute a good example and I can dismiss it out of hand in favor of asserting my own asinine argument again.

Nice meme

>>64945007
I play baseball and I box. Even if I wasn't an athlete, Bruce would still be inspiring. Deal with it.

>>64944984
That poster didn't offer asians in response to your specific question. Re-read his post, you beautiful idiot.

>>64944988

I didn't ask about contributing briefly toward an advancement of racial equality, anon.

>look it up

You look it up, and then cite your source. That's how this works, dumb dumb.

>>64945039
>Asked for examples
>Give examples
>WOW ONLY TWO?

Nice you're an idiot. I guess it was my argumentative fault for not knowing everyone on the planet and inquiring regarding their role models to pick up upon any more cases of cross racial inspiration.

>>64945039
>neither of which are personal to you
Many examples of people having role models of a different ethnicity have already been posted.

>>64941567
I think he's making a distinction between the racists and those who are informed in the racial politics of the series, it's just not worded very well

>>64945047

So what actions or ideologies, because you never mentioned those? You literally only said he had a nice body.

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>>64945065
>dumb dumb

>>64945092
I'm.
Not.
That.
Poster.

You legitimately just have like five people who disagree with you.

>>64945049

Playing sports doesn't make you an athlete. Are you an athlete, yes or no?

Merely being inspiring doesn't constitute a role model.

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>>64944934
Arabs are Caucasian but they arent considered American "white" though like WASPs. Irish, Soutern Italians, Eastern Europeans, Sicilians and Jews werent cosnidered "White" either for a long time despite all coming from close proximity in Europe. Arabs are Caucasians sure but they havent been granted arbitrary acceptance into the whitebread club of America yet so his point still kinda stands I guess

I'd also like to point out that race as a biological factor doesnt exist and the 3 big divisions (Causcoid, Negroid and Mongoloid) among the worlds ethnicites are considered bunk as well by modern historians and biologists

>>64944984
You are talking to multiple people at this point and asking how those people have inspired me or have been people that I look up to is a whole lot of deflecting away from:

>Black people can only look up to other blacks? Having white heroes is detrimental to black children's growth? Why does somebody have to be the same race as you to be able to inspire you?
>Yes, that's how racial psychology works. People tend to look up to those with like traits.

Being complete armchair psychology dribble. I'm not taking the bait. Obviously, you're trying to twist the conversation into something else because you're an obnoxious faggot. I wouldn't be surprised if you're sitting at your keyboard laughing to yourself, to protect your ego, "Ho ho ho! I sure am trolling these guys!"

Enjoy talking to people still taking your deflection bait, but my second post in this thread will be my last. You're wrong and you know you're wrong.

>>64945092
see >>64945049
If you're trying to improve your body, a ripped motherfucker like Bruce can be a role model. Can't wait to see how you squirm out of this one faggot.

>>64942381
literally the last good thing before the books turn to shit

wizard and glass is such a snorefest

>>64945051
Yes he did.

>>64944824
>I am not from Hong Kong or China, but Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan have been large influences on my life.

>>64945067

Two irrelevant examples that don't fit the criteria aren't actually examples at all, dumb dumb.

>>64945133
Will Aaron Paul finally become busy with Dark Tower, guys? Eddie is basically Jesse

>>64945007
Not him, but I started martial arts as a kid because of Bruce Lee movies. His philosophy made me look outside the box when it came to learning MA. A lot of people where (still are, in some cases) very rigid when it came to style and schools, he wasn't, even incorporating fencing, boxing, bodybuilding, etc. in his training and skills. He wasn't the first, of course, but it was still rare in the pre-MMA world. Yes. I'm old.

>>64945065
>cite your sources

It's 4chan's /tv/ board, not a thesis paper lmfao. I couldn't care less about some random black autist sperging out about shit lmao. I'm still right regardless of whether you look the information up or not. Plus I'm on my phone and copying urls is hard :(

>>64945181
Well you quit shitposting in defeat after a few black examples were posted. We're just trying to keep you busy.

>>64945083

Ethnicity isn't race, dumb dumb. Other people's posts aren't yours.

>>64945125

Then why are you interjecting yourself into someone else's conversation?

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It'll be shit, but i'm cool with Idris playing the main guy.
I really like him, and wish he was in more stuff.
He reminds me of Denzel Washington, but easier on the eyes.
No homo.

>>64944934

Blacks aren't role models on screen because they aren't role models in real life.

If somebody asks you think of famous philosophers, conquerors, artists, or inventors, you will never think of any black people, because black people have no significant contributions to any field in history.

In the modern age, black people are only role models in crime, rape, and political instability.

Put more black heroes on the screen, but don't contort white characters into being black for the sake of representation. Imagine the outrage if Disney bought Star Wars and now they make Han Solo, a canonically white guy, into a black man, just because they own the rights. Or as the anon above said, if they make all the characters from Straight Outta Compton asians because we don't get enough asian main characters. Isn't it silly?

>>64945039
>The goal post hasn't changed from "black kids don't have role models on screen".

That... wasn't the goal post. It was: what black man has inspired you (a white man)?

>>64945133

>Arabs are Caucasian

Good. You learned something.

>>64945216
He interjects because he thinks you're a gigantic retard and he tried to explain it in a way you might understand. And yes, I'm not that guy either. Stay buttblasted autismo.

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>>64945187
>"XBOX, SUBMIT MY RESUME AGAIN. XBOX CHECK MY VOICEMAIL FOR NEW MESSA- OH NONE YET? COOL. BITCH "

>>64945141

Wow those are a bunch of words that in no way describe the actions or ideologies of Bruce Lee that made you adopt him as a role model.

>>64945147

Having a ripped body isn't an action or an ideology, dumb dumb.

Being inspiring isn't being a role model, dumb dumb.

>>64945147
>Bruce can be a role model
not for a cultural appropriating round eye

>>64945216
>Why are you talking on an imageboard

ok

>>64945202

OK but do you consider Bruce Lee a personal role model?

>>64945237
did you ever figure that you didn't find any of these people because you've never bothered to look

I mean really

>>64945246
In the general realm of public perception but in real life science Arabs didn't migrate through Europe from the Caucasus mountains. They likely just settled there straight from Africa senpai like Europeans did when theh left Africa

Meh, Dark Tower stagnated into garbage-tier by the end so i don't care about it. Plus it's not a LotR or Harry Potter so it will probably have middling gross and not get a sequel (or the series of sequels that the series needs to properly tell it's story.

This will all be forgotten in a few years, so who gives a fuck.

It is a shitty choice made by liberal retards though and basically confirms all the /pol/tier bullshit bitching about hollywood, but anyone with half a brain knew that shit already and didn't get their panties in a bunch about it, so again, meh.

>>64945340
>Explain the precise capacities in which he holds admiration for a person and for what reasons
>Yeah but how is he a role model to you?

End your life

>>64940796
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN
WE WUZ GUNSLINGAZ AN SHIEEEEEEEET

>>64945204

I had a feeling you couldn't cite your sources.

>>64945237

>Blacks aren't role models on screen because they aren't role models in real life.


DING DING DING

WINRAR

>Put more black heroes on the screen

Already doing it.

> but don't contort white characters into being black for the sake of representation.

Why not?

>>64945295
>Having a ripped body isn't an action
All the work he did to achieve that is an action, and it's what I admire. Bruce also had his own philosophy and martial art that he developed, but even that is besides the point. Keep squirming autismo.

>>64945245

No, I never used the word "inspire".

>>64945261

>i know what he thinks

>>64945353

> but in real life science Arabs didn't migrate through Europe from the Caucasus mountains

They don't have to in order to be Caucasian you fucking idiot.

>>64945340
...
Yes. That was my point.

Go ahead, I'm sire you'll have some funny things to say about that. I'm enjoying our verbal sparring quite a lot.

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>>64945393

>>64943869
should have been that the crimson king has been dead for a very long time instead

>>64945421
Stop replying now that guy is just going to keep this up into the early hours because he's bored.

>>64945383

Admiring someone isn't holding them as a role model, dumb dumb. I thought you were old.

>how

I never asked this.

>>64945433
Yes they do goof, that's what forensic anthropology suggests with racial typology.

It's pseudo-science anon, read a book

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>>64945467
>dumb dumb
does this tingle your tism?

>>64945421
>All the work he did to achieve that is an action,

Then talk about all the work.

Jeet Kun Do is hardly a martial art.

>>64945444

>Yes.

OK then.

>>64945494
>Then talk about all the work.
I was. Learn to read.

>>64945467
Asking whether or not someone considers someone a rolemodel and asking how they consider someone a rolemodel are so close to being synonymous in this context that it basically makes no difference, don't be so pedantic

And also having admiration for the actions of others usually implies a want to take similar action or otherwise embody the qualities which underpinned the performance of those actions.

You're not even going to win this on technicality from semantics dude, you're just retarded.

>>64945458
the fuck do you care who i reply to?

>>64945361
I like DT, but hated the "shared universe" thing King went for. The best DT books are The Gunslinger and The Waste Lands. I love them. The Waste Lands is what the whole series should have been like.

>>64945519
I don't but you should. This is a waste of everyone's energy since he's just clearly trolling now and making no real point at all.

>>64944643
What relevance does that have to the discussion at hand?

>>64945486

> forensic anthropology suggests with racial typology.

The fuck would forensic anthropology have to do with genetics?

Caucasian is just a word. Caucasians don't literally need to have been from the Caucasus.

Caucasian variety—I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.[8]

Is everyone in Gilead going to be black?
Is Susan Delgado going to be BLACKED?
Will Mordred be black?

>>64945506

No, you never mentioned any of the work. That's why now you can refer to any post mentioning all the work. All you did was talk about his glorious mahogany body like Coburn.

>>64945515

They aren't related at all. Asking someone how is different than asking someone whether.

>>64945585
>you never mentioned any of the work.
I mentioned him, as my role model, and his great physique in relation to me trying to better my body. Literally how are you capable of being autistic enough to weasel out of something so obvious?

>>64945540
look at the reply count, dumbfuck. do you see another awesome convo here that this is taking away from?

>>64945452
That's a good idea. That would have made the reveal of the repeats more impactful.

>>64945554
You literally posted a quote that supported my point

Thanks I guess? For shooting yourself in the foot for whatever reason lol

>>64943730
>box of grenades

You forgot the best part

They were officially licensed Harry Potter grenades that looked like Golden Snitches

>>64945609
No shitposter, it's not. They're completely related in this discussion and even a 8 year old could follow it and understand. Seek help.

>>64945618

Exactly, you mentioned his physique. You never said anything about the work it took to get that physique. You never mentioned his isometric exercises or his cardio game for example.

>>64945130
>Playing sports doesn't make you an athlete.

Yes, yes it does. Anyway, you're just arguing semantics at this point.

>>64945550
It's a question he asked, and I answered, you illiterate fuck.

>>64945646

>I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus
>because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.

You're an idiot.

>>64945681
>You never mentioned his isometric exercises or his cardio game for example.
Because you don't need to mention that. Are you ok?

>>64945661

>I was wondering if/whether you like your toast

>I was wondering how you like your toast

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>>64945130
>Playing sports doesn't make you an athlete.

>>64945494
To be fair, JKD was a cash grab by greedy students of Bruce after his death. Bruce didn't really have a martial arts, that was his point. Learn always, learn from everything and everyone.

Don't confuse his acting-fu with his real MA training. Two different beasts. Bruce wasn't a flashy fighter irl.

>>64945693
>Yes, yes it does

No, no it doesn't. Babe Ruth was not an athlete. My weekend softball game doesn't make me an athlete.

>>64945736

>you don't need to mention the work to get a physique in order to mention the work to get a physique

K.

>>64945778

>To be fair, JKD was a cash grab by greedy students of Bruce after his death. Bruce didn't really have a martial arts

Exactly. He wasn't even a fighter in real life. He got his ass kicked in a street fight in HK, was a manlet.

>>64945701
I responded to the wrong post, my bad.

>>64945767

Now imagine Newman playing tennis. Is he suddenly an athlete?

>>64945744
That's a poor analogy and you know it. Learn to read senpai.

>>64945873

That's not a poor analogy. That's a clear example demonstrating the difference between the words "how" and "if".

>>64945779
How was a legendary professional baseball player not an athlete? You have to be athletic to effectively play sports.