Decapitation and balls stuffed in his mouth when?
who the fuck even is sean penn and why does he hang around drug dealers and south american dictators? I thought it was pretty funny when I saw carlitos way a few days ago on the same day they caught el chapo
how did such a weasel, liberally effeminate man produce such a high-test daughter?
Wait..... weren't there various news articles that said that Sean Penn said that he's the reason Chapo's captured? Did he really go back on his word? I can understand the cartel are motherfuckers, but does he really think a bunch of cartel dudes will come the US, go to Beverly Hills, and fucking kill him? A huge star? Especially when everyone knows El Chapo was him dead? Nope not gonna happen
The only reason that the gangs would seek to kill Penn or harm him was to send a message as to not to mess with the cartels.
I don't see why anyone would do that. El Chapo was well of the risks of the interview, and he was the one who authorized the in-person meeting. If the authorities really did use Penn covertly without him knowing, it's El Chapo's fault for letting his own guard down.
>I don't see why anyone would do that. El Chapo was well of the risks of the interview, and he was the one who authorized the in-person meeting. If the authorities really did use Penn covertly without him knowing, it's El Chapo's fault for letting his own guard down.
>expecting drug dealers to be reasonable
He must be fucking pissed senpai.
I’ve heard that Penn’s interview of El Chapo is what finally lead the authorities to his location.
The guy better watch his back….
Hahaha all that shit Sean Penn talked about FBI, DEA and border patrol. How he would fucking trash them. Now he is suck that dick hard.
I really hope the Mexican government is leaking "evidence" to the cartels that fuckhead was cooperating with the federales from the start and did this interview with the sole intent of getting El Chapo caught.
I want to see this retard hung from an overpass
It's pretty obvious that the Mexican government is merely trying to shift the blame and the focus of the Cartel's anger to someone other than themselves. If the Cartel is pissed at some Hollywood gringo instead of them, it makes their prosecution of El Chapo a good deal easier. Penn's a patsy, the poor bastard.
I think it's funny that all of 4chan's teenage faux-conservacucks are bashing Penn for trying to take on the war on drugs. Aren't conservatives supposed to be against wasteful spending? The cost of the war on drugs is astronomical and has never produced any sort of viable, tangible results in any fucking community. It's the fucking direct antithesis to what conservatism is supposed to be all about.
This more than anything else just proves how little the neckbeard Trump-supporting faggots understand about politics and I'm lovin' every laugh.
>I was just trying to start a conversation on the war on drugs!
>thinking this is going to save your ass
You're admitting that you were trying to push for full drug legalisation, which would cut off funding to the cartels, so you're not exactly presenting yourself well to them by saying this
Kill yourself whiteboy
We already own the southwest and there ain't shit you can do about it
This country is ours
I hope your ready to build wall paco
>americans trying to talk about shit they don't actually know about
Here in Mexico all males that turn 18 go into military conscription via a random lottery. Because I've got some shitty luck I ended up being selected to become a conscript for about a year
Well basically one of our sergeants once told us "do you really think the government never knew where El Chapo was? It just wasn't in the government's interest to capture him until now, much less in the interests of the american government"
The government has always been in bed with cartels.
it was someone within el chapo's inner circle who the feds claimed led them to his capture. no clue how true that is or isn't.
I doubt chapo would kill penn, at least not this soon, because el chapo seems like the type of person who cares about maintaining his "robin hood" image, and also wants a movie made about himself. So, sadly, sean penn is probably not going to get green lit.
How is legalizing cocaine or heroin any different than having firearms being legal exactly?
Guns can be used to kill and coke/heroin can certainly kill you/ruin your life. Then again, so can cigarettes or alcohol. I'm not sure I understand your point.
>because el chapo seems like the type of person who cares about maintaining his "robin hood" image
yeah well they said the same thing about Pablo Escobar and literally every other drug lord in mexico and they're all murderous bastards
I think the Cartels are worse desu.
ISIS does a lot of incredibly fucked up shit, but the Cartels are just straight up psychopaths. You could claim that ISIS members are deluded/brainwashed by their religion, but the Cartels just do it for fun/money.
>The Hollywood star, renowned for his extreme left-wing views, called on Britain yesterday to relinquish its “colonialist, ludicrous and archaic” hold on the Falkland islands.
>implying you know literally anything about drug dealing
Flashy displays and killing public figures gets you public scrutiny, anon, it's generally better to go unnoticed if possible when you break the law.
This is donald trump's support base https://twitter.com/ojprell/with_replies
Old, mentally infirmed white trash who are the only people dumb enough to believe Trump is anything but a self-serving conman. That and racists but that much is self evident.
It's sad, really.
Penn's writing is fanfiction-tier
I BET HE WISHES IT WAS FAN FICTION RIGHT ABOUT NOW!
you severely severely severely underestimate mexican cartels if you think they aren't. they have fucking million dollar tunnels coming into the US and use fucking submarines to transport drugs.
Sean should have not written anything simply because by defending himself it kind of makes him appear even more guilty in the eyes of the cartel. its best if he just went into witness protection for life.
I didn't even need to cite it with a Youtube video, you fucking moron. You actually claimed that an alcoholic had never robbed anyone to finance their addiction. You're that fucking stupid.
It is definitely comparable to heroin. It might not destroy your life as quickly, but it's also fucking legal and freely available to anyone over the age of 21 in the US and much younger throughout the world. I think that the damage done by heroin is offset by the availability of booze.
So, again, which is more degenerate? You're backpedaling pretty fucking hard, anon.
Implying you wouldn't crawl through broken glass just to use her shit as toothpaste
He's fucking shitting his pants. I like how he says that the mexican government is trying to get him killed out of jealousy.
This is what happens when liberalism goes wrong, and it's fucking amazing.
>alcohol is comparable to heroin
Just stop lad
> I think that the damage done by heroin is offset by the availability of booze.
So because you have 1 bad thing that's legal, that's an argument to make another bad thing legal?
>tfw you will never go on a great adventure with Sean Penn and he will never call you an owl who flies among falcons.
The comments were taken as support of Argentina's claim to the islands and evoked strong reactions in the British media, with one satirical article in The Daily Telegraph requesting that Penn "return his Malibu estate to the Mexicans".
>How is legalizing cocaine or heroin any different than having firearms being legal exactly?
You seem to believe narcotics are as essential to preserving liberty as a freely armed populace. Please expound on this.
>Are Mexicans just full of shit weaklings?
an entire busload of college students who were RUMORED to be staging a protest just up and fucking disappeared overnight
their bodies were found and it wasn't a mass suicide
>You seem to believe narcotics are as essential to preserving liberty as a freely armed populace. Please expound on this.
Not him, but restricting what people can do, or put within their body, when it does not harm others, is actually a right preserved by the constitution.
It is a question pertaining to individual liberty, even if the anons in this thread arguing over drugs are retarded faggots.
Conservatives exposed for sick sociopath fucks, who would rather attack a celebrity for their liberalness than a drug lord who caused 100 thousand deaths and ruined additional untold lives with drug addiction
El Chapo was a good capitalist though,so he'd fit right in with the Republican party
Charlie Rose asks him if he's scared and he says no and for a moment I sort of believe him but as soon as he starts talking and literally squirming in his seat he looks as though he's about to lose it.
Penn is a well known liberal activist who met a Mexican drug-lord/murderer to open a dialogue about the legality of drugs in the USA. Typical for liberal activism it has backfired for him and now he is engaging in damage control with the help of the media.
Accepting help implies that there was a choice. A legal mandate that can be enforced by the authorities with penalties of jail time is not the same as a friend offering a helping hand.
honestly, as a free market capitalist, i have no problem with people like Al Capone, Pablo Escobar or El chapo.They are just guys trying to make a business but federal nanny cucks won't let them, so they have to rely on the black market.
So Penn is willing to talk shit about the United Kingdom knowing that it'll never attack him
But when it comes to El Chapo he bends over backwards to appease them because he knows they'll murder him?
What a hypocrite, he should do what he believes and willingly sacrifice himself for his noble values
>i should be forced to "help" somebody that has nothing to do with my life and business
how can you be against the welfare state but be for this shit? I bet you think collectivism is good
He attacks western countries for their supposed transgressions because he knows that they'll never hurt him
But when another group which is a million times worse is threatening to hurt him he suddenly backs down
>just trying to make a business
>by murdering people and having their corpses hung from bridges
>by literally horribly torturing and executing people who say stuff about them
You're literally retarded. If you were living in this hellhole of a country you wouldn't be saying that you fucking child
i don't support the property violations and murders. They exist purely because of the fedcucks trying to be a nanny. If it wasn't illegal, there would be no reason to behead snitches
No one wants to pay taxes, but they are an absolute necessity to run a nation. The government is under no obligation to preserve any of innumerable actions the populace wishes to preserve. I do acknowledge that the Constitution was amended to preserve the ability to tax it's population, but that just further supports that a government is willing to subvert the population's want for it's own preservation.
Let me know how it goes when you attempt to defend your life and liberty with a blunt, dumbass.
There is nothing contradictory about the two points.
Total and pure liberty for those at the pinnacle of society inherently requires those at the very bottom to be bereft of liberty in order for the majority's rights to not interfere with those in power.
A king can not exist if his subjects are freely allowed to disobey his rule, if they are, then he is not a king; the same logic holds true for titans of industry commanding society.
Sean and Kate are safe, seriously the Cartel is not going to harm them by any means, Chapo had a "romantic" interest on Kate and that's why she was allowed to meet him. The interview and his capture have nothing to do in common, the goverment knows exactly where he is at any time since 10 years.
>blackmarket naturally does crazy things
>tells me to jump off a bridge for pointing that out
In this thread we are seeing people side with the Cartels, organizations well know for murder, mass murder, kidnapping, rape, brain washing kids and in generally making the world a shitty place, where our species are going extinct in this very century because of shitty people like Cartel bosses.
>prohibiting them from making profit
This isn't something as simple as selling stolen goods, which is also illegal. This is a bunch of lowlives with no education doing whatever the fuck they want
You must be one of those retards who watched Narcos and suddenly thinks he knows all the problems with cartels and how to solve them.
Fuck, why are americans so fucking ignorant? I bet you wouldn't be saying the same shit if tomorrow one of your friends got kidnapped and killed out of the blue
Sorry, but I'm a minarchist. I don't view governments as legitimate organs of society.
Governments should not be able to infringe on the liberty of billionaires or corporations as they are the ones who create value in society. You should read Atlas Shrugged to understand how the world works.
This is no different than when America enacted Prohibition, all it does is encourage crime and violence when if the government actually just regulated things everything would be fine.
I'm not praising their actions, i simply respect them as a business entity. They have to do shit like beheadings because what else can they do? It's the blackmarket. Business is business. War is war. Innocent casualties will always exist.
>he learned about cartels from tv shows and movies
Cartels only exist because governments allow them to, by enforcing black market monopolies where the white market cannot enter.
Once again, we see that the problem is with governments, and governments restricting the rights and freedoms of corporations, that is what causes the problems of society. If we liberate the free market, all of society's ills and problems will meld away, and we will finally be able to reach the closest approximation to utopia, in a truly Capitalism society.
If you are saying that Cartels exists because drugs can't be sell legally, I agree with you, but that in no way excuse their actions, and I rather have no market at all than having a black one.
You're dumb as shit if you really think that we'd get the ideal capitalistic society of the government didn't impose restrictions on corporations. It would only allow them to get away with even worse shit. How fucking naive are you? The problem isn't that governments block the power of corporations, if it was like that fucking Monsanto and Nestle wouldn't exist, titanic media conglomerates like Disney wouldn't be possible
If you let corporations do whatever the fuck they want to do all that happens is that they either assimilate or terminate the competition and establish monopolies which let them fuck over consumers in a billion ways.
Fuck off jew
>The 2011 San Fernando massacre, also known as the second massacre of San Fernando, was the mass murder of 193 people by Los Zetas drug cartel at La Joya ranch in the municipality of San Fernando, Tamaulipas, Mexico. Authorities investigating the massacre reported numerous hijackings of passenger buses on Mexican Federal Highway 101 in San Fernando, and the kidnapped victims were later killed and buried in 47 clandestine mass graves. The investigations began immediately after several suitcases and other baggage went unclaimed in Reynosa and Matamoros, Tamaulipas. On 6 April 2011, Mexican authorities exhumed 59 corpses from eight mass graves. By 7 June 2011, after a series of multiple excavations, a total of 193 bodies were exhumed from mass graves in San Fernando.
>Reports mentioned that female kidnapping victims were raped and able-bodied male kidnapping victims were forced to fight to the death with other hostages, similar to a "gladiator fight from ancient Rome," where they were given knives, hammers, machetes and clubs to find recruits who were willing to kill for their lives. In the blood sport, the survivor was recruited as a hitman for Los Zetas; those who did not survive were buried in a clandestine gravesite. After the massacre, thousands of citizens from San Fernando fled to other parts of Mexico and to the US. The Mexican government responded by sending 650 soldiers to San Fernando and establishing a military base in the municipality.
how fucking childish logic. Do you also think that because betting is illegal in USA it would be okay for some illegal bookers to kill people for it and it would be in their right and only the US government would be at fault.
Even if you think that everyone should be free to deal drugs all they want do you really think there is justified reasons to kill/harm others who are not threatening you?
If the government didn't regulate the market you would be working in a factory 18 hours a day since the age of 8 for 100 dollars a month.
Crime has always existed, even before there was government there were people who stole or killed. Does something being illegal lead to more wrongdoings, yes. But decriminalization will not solve any of these problems.
well, now , if he survives all this, he will know how to act people who are in really, really deep shit.
Also, he will finally realize that acting an tuff guy is not actually being one, Chapo survived so many attempts on his life, for him, struggle to survive is probably daily.
Why would he have any mercy to anyone, when he feels like whole world is after him(and it is)
This just shows two sides of a simmilar coin, one acted badass so he wanted to become badass, now he is in a lake of shit, maybe if he gets out of this(but I think he wont, he is marked for life, even if Chapo is killed tomorrow, some clown from some cartel will want his 5 minutes of fame and Penn is really an easy target ) he will appreciate his life filled with benefits.
another one has all the money in the world but he lives like piss poor farmer, he is afraid to go to sleep, he probably sleeps near some hole or tunnel, always armed, never peaceful, paranoia is eating him,
probably secretly want for everything to finally end.
Person who knows a person who knows a person had a slight clash with some mayor Balkan kingpin (or so the story goes), anyway, that guy was not connected in any way, he was basically an bystander who remotely knew a person who was probably involved in killing some news-reporter , but police gave some info in media where they just listed names(in hope some name will stir the pond) and press just added more crap.
Week later they found torso of one guy from the list...
Anyway, this one person from the list is fucked up beyond recognition psychically, whole ordeal was maybe 10 years ago, he still cant sleep,nothing, almost as if he waits to die.
I feel sorry for that guy because he really didnt know anything, nor was he involved in anyway, he was just on the wrong place at the wrong time yet he feels fucked for the rest of his life.
God knows how Penn feels but I wouldnt like to be in his shoes.
Let this be a glaring example. White leftists are tools who are and will be used by govenments and large organizations.
tHIS PERSON ALMOST KNOWS WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT.
Ill try to explain to all the folks who really dont get it, especially to
USFats who were raised on white/black wiev of the world.
1.)Cartels are no.1 by far the best export product that Mexico has,
without them, Mexican government would lose maybe 60% of their profit.
2.)They were always in connection with government, at least to a degree.
3.)Government removes main guy when he crosses some imaginary line,
they just put another in his place, someone more obedient.
4.)Chopping peoples heads and posting crap online is not crossing the line,
it is actually an really cheap and easy way to silence and pacify the people(carrot or stick-model)
5.)If anyone(USA included) would actually give a shit, they would first gave Cartels the moniker of Terrorists, until that happens no one will actually do shit.
6.) On every ounce of drugs that Mexico sells to USA, there are at least 20 guns "Made in USA" sold back to Mexico to kill Mexicans, with that same money, basically, USA has paper in abundance to print $, they clean their lower class from "white,black,red , orange trash" all the while keeping their southern neighbors from advancement because they are mortified in fear but at the same time colored as the "real" bad guys
Welcome to the basics of Global Politics, its like Monopoly, just played with gallons of blood .
well, ill at least keep my small balls,
what will he do with his big balls when they are gonna be in his mouth?
last 2 toughts he will have is, how come my daughter does not cry even if 30 people are gang-banging her really hard and WHY THE FUCK ARE MY BALLS SO BIG, I CANT BREATHE THRU NOSE , ITS FULL OF BLOOD and my mouth are filled with my balls...But, hey, Im Sean Penn..look at me..ill ruin my privileged white life by trying to do some fake good(not really, i just crave attention), shit, he looked scared..
All the Federales say
They could've had him any day
They only let him slip away
Out of kindness I suppose
At least he got to fuck Kate, r-right?
If a cartel even touched someone as high profile as Penn, the US government would get on Mexico's ass so fast it wouldn't be funny.
Penn comes off as holier-than-thou in this interview and he actually sounds like he's afraid. And rightfully so, but he's not gonna get murdered. That's way too much heat.
Fucking Mexico. Why the fuck can't they fix their own damned country? No surprise their people cross into the US because you can bash it for mass shootings, but we actually believe in law & order and have stable government.
>A brazen attack on a prominent US citizen by foreign criminals is a slap in the face to our society.
It just means Penn was a dumbass who didn't hire good enough security.
This is one reason why public figures expect to be paid for dumb shit like speaking engagements, so they can continue to live a lavish and secure lifestyle.
>It just means Penn was a dumbass who didn't hire good enough security.
Eh, true. Probably sleeps with a gun next to him if he's smart.
>This is one reason why public figures expect to be paid for dumb shit like speaking engagements, so they can continue to live a lavish and secure lifestyle.
It is sickening how much praise and fortune we give to entertainers while ignoring doctors, engineers, and other individuals who deserve more.
Why fix it? Their poor underclass flees over the border to america to work slave wages and send half their money back to mexico. Drugs poor over the border and billions are funneled back into their economy. It's win-win.
My city is a border town, and I've been to Matamoros a couple of times. You can see the drug dealers homes so clearly and the poor peasants home as eyesore. The corn on the cob or elotes entero are fucking good thoughl
And this is exactly the sort of shit that pisses me off about illegal immigration from our southern neighbor. I also have no sympathy for drug users since they bankroll cartels into power because they're so obsessed with getting their fix. They're not the victims. The real victims are the innocent people caught up in cartel bullshit like this >>64925841.
This Mexican dude was straight-up badass.
If more Mexicans stood up like this guy, they wouldn't stand a chance.
As long as he doesn't go to Mexico or other horrible places like that, he'll be fine. The cartel attacking a public figure on American soil would be the end of them.
>The story began in the morning of Saturday November 13, when a group of armed gunmen went to deliver an ultimatum to 77 year old Don Alejo Garza Tamez: He had 24 hours to turn over his property or suffer the consequences.
> The gunmen got out of their trucks, fired shots in the air, and announced they came to take possession of the ranch. They were expecting the terrified occupants to run out, begging for mercy with their hands in the air.
>But things didn't go as expected. Don Alejo welcomed them with bullets; the entire army of gunmen returned fire. Don Alejo seemed to multiply, he seemed to be everywhere. The minutes would have seemed endless to those who had seen him as easy prey. Various gunmen were killed on sight. The others, in rage and frustration, intensified the attack by swapping out their assault rifles for grenades.
>When everything finally fell silent, the air was left heavy with gunpowder. The holes left in the walls and the windows attested to the violence of the attack. When they went in search of what they had assumed was a large contingent, they were surprised to find only one man, Don Alejo.
>The surviving gunmen did not take over the ranch. Thinking the military would arrive at any moment, they decided to run. They left behind what they thought were six corpses, but two of their gunmen had survived.
>If more Mexicans stood up like this guy, they wouldn't stand a chance.
>he hasn't heard of the autodefensas
>stand up to government official's wife by protesting
>42 students end up burnt in a hole in the desert
fuck mexico, these guys are hero's if they literally want to stand up the the cartel.
This guy deserves a movie
I've come across them in news articles, but they seem too haphazard. Especially with their clashes with the military. I do understand their reluctance to trust the authorities because they haven't done jackshit for them.
The army tried to disarm them but the grannies in the towns said fuck that
My boss was in Mexico when that shit was going down. He was telling everyone at work how insane the "disappearance" of those student protesters were and how nobody believed the government.
You do realize that cartels could go "lol fuck that guy he got the big boss captured and EXTRADITED to the U.S(that's the last thing a drug lord wants) let's put a 10 million dollar bounty on his head.
10 million is pocket change for a cartel. A drop in the pool.
Will they send a sicario after him?
The U.S doesn't have as much of a budget for bounties as a cartel does because bounties is inherently cartel business.
Paid assassination of your opponents is exactly how cartels become so big, they literally kill any opposition.
Of course they would fucking try it even if it's a death sentence..
They'll just say "if I die make sure my family is well looked after, give them the money" and there is plenty of grunts willing to give up their life for the cartel and the well being of there family.
Give me some argument why no one would try it? if it's "lol it's a death sentence" you'd be surprised how many people don't care as long as their family gets the money.
They're a business. El Chapo's capture doesn't effect their business much. Assassinating an America celebrity would lead to a lot of negative attention that would. It's not an argument about if they could do it, but why would they want to?
Because there boss fucking got extradited to the U.S because of this cunt. IF he lived in a Mexican prison he'd have a fucking cushy life, but now he's in a shitty American prison, with no chance of escape really.
And he's the boss, you have to be loyal to the boss and 10 million for someone who put him away for good is really nothing for the cartel.
Being the boss of a cartel isn't like being the boss of a business... You have to be a certain type of person, a murderous fucking psychopath really, the exact type of person who loves revenge.
Meh sounds like you've been watching too many movies. The cartel will move on without el Chapo. So sad too bad for their beloved boss but they would never risk the business for some bullshit like revenge, especially when there is so much attention on this story already.
>IF he lived in a Mexican prison he'd have a fucking cushy life
>yfw the first time he was in prison they would literally bus in whores for him and he had a big screen tv, drugs and booze for his men too, etc.
It's hilarious that you think murdering one celebrity would risk their business.
It's like if ISIS kills a celebrity, you think suddenly the U.S is going to drop their trousers and wave their military dick in the region??
no. Things would just continue on as normal.
1.- El Chapo won't harm this faggot, this guy has 8 times more money than him. Sean is a maggot to his eyes.
2.- The DEA and the Mexican army almost got him last year after his escape it was a matter of time.
3.- The Mexican army HASN'T said that the interview MADE IN OCTOBER of last year by the way was key for his capture.
4.- Sean Penn is a fucking smug cunt using this to gain press. So I really wish he got his balls cut for this.
Stop being retarded.
Murdering a celebrity would be a huge deal. American public would demand a response. Politicians would use it to grandstand and demand results. DEA (or whatever) would be forced to focus efforts on that single cartel and bust it the fuck up. Not that hard to understand
I really don't think there would be any special response.
IT's not like they're going to go "lol they killed a celeb we need troops on the ground now."
They're just going to use whatever resources are currently allocated to that area and use them more forcefully.
If it's ISIS they'll bomb them more, if it's a mexican cartel they'll just have the DEA run around with some more power.
but really there will be no change because the status quo is fine as it is, neither ISIS or the Cartel is any threat to U.S national security.
Even if there was no special response (which I still think there would be), the us being more forceful with resources currently employed would still be enough of a reason for the cartel not to want to fuck with Sean Penn. Chapo is caught, but that fact doesn't really upset their status quo. They can let America have him and America can pretend they made some huge bust. Everybody's happy
>the leader of their cartel being caught doesn't upset their status quo
what is a power vacuum, do you even know how cartels operate?
When the head boss dies, there's loads of in fighting over who will take his place.
Also just because Chapo is caught doesn't mean he's just done with the game, it's still very possible to organize hits on people behind bars. Chapo certainly won't be happy being extradited to the U.S and it's funny you think he'll just go easily without a fuss.
He was almost caught before. This was a long time in the making and he knew it was coming. I doubt there is chaos rippling through the cartel since his capture. No doubt somebody was appointed already to be running shit for a while already considering el Chapo was on the run. He has already gone easily. It's over.