POTENTIALLY PART OF THE ARG
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Cellar fake trailer transcript, if any of you nerds want to try and use your autism to help find a connection.
As stated in the last threads, there are several glaring thematic similarities outside of the title:
>It's different to me than last night.
>It's coming from upstairs.
>[Distorted, but sounds like "It always freaks me out"]
>Our father, he never told you about your sister. You don't even know her name.
>You should have never come out here.
>You know what will be even sadder? If I don't sell my little invention. I mean I've wasted two years...
>It's a tragedy.
>You hear that?
>Come on! Come on and try to steal these now!
>Helena, who's Audrey?
>Yes, you know don't you?
>What? No, of course they're original!
>[distorted: Maddie be careful!] Maddie we're coming!
>Ow! Damn it!
>What was it?
>I don't know.
>Now it's complete again.
>[text: Reality is just an illusion]
Hey pleb fuck
Why don't you stop babysitting these garbage anti-art threads and delete the pedo and /b/ tier spam?
The Cellar site might be, it's still up in the air. Something is clearly off about it and there's lots of evidence connecting it to 10CL, but at the same time there's just as much suggesting that it might not be unless the whole thing was a much more elaborate ruse than we could have ever predicted.
Here's there number/email address if someone out there wants to try contacting them.
For some reason I keep thinking they'll go in another direction with the monster/monsters & world build into something else, seeing as the first one had so much vague stuff & easter eggs in it.
Trailer for 10CL comes out in front of 13 Hours, some guy posts about it here. Naturally, hype is high considering the excellent ARG the original had. Mostly speculation until some autist typed "thecellarmovie" into their browser and got pic related, which required a password. People got hype until they learned it was by some indie film company.
Recently, interviews have been uncovered that look like the people involved are acting, so we're not discounting it entirely.
Why do people keep thinking that the accident occurs during the attack in Cloverfield?
Clearly takes place post-2013.
>she has an iPhone 5S
Most likely world ravaged by Cloverfield or even a giant red herring.
>10 Cloverfield Lane (previously known as The Cellar and Valencia)
>previously known as The Cellar and Valencia
>After a car accident, a young woman comes to in an underground cellar, where most of the action takes place. She fears she has been abducted by a survivalist, who tells her he saved her life and that a chemical attack has left the outside world uninhabitable. Uncertain what to believe, she decides she must escape, whatever dangers she may face outside.
so its safe to say that this was supposed to be just some throwaway movie and then jarjar decided to get on board
AND then they rewrote it to add cloverfield alien man?
So this looks like it's going to be a thriller set during the aftermath of Cloverfield.
I'm comfortably hyped considering it comes out in March.
It would be neat if we got more psuedo-sequels in the future.
It's more plausible that it was always intended to be a Cloverfield sequel, and was filmed using secretive code names because J.J. Abrams thrives on beings a mysterious ruseman imo.
We really don't even know that much about it to jump to conclusions like that.
The Cellar and Valencia could have just been working titles to protect the movie because anything with "Cloverfield" in the title was going to mean it was related to the 2008 movie.
Because mew doesn't believe the world is fucked and this places her knowledge of affairs as pre-Clover. Her boyfriends arm is broken and they are all pally so that is from the car accident that got them there. Broken arms heal in around 6 weeks so it is in a 6 week period from pre-Clover.
>Spiritual Successor/Continuation - On 14 January 2016, 10 Cloverfield Lane was revealed by Bad Robot Productions. The film is described as a "blood relative" to Cloverfield by Abrams, who produces the film. The film will be released on 11 March, 2016.
so its just like linklater trying to cash in on dazed and confused with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Wants_Some_%28film%29
If it does take place in Cloverfield's universe, then I think the likely explanation is that the first monster *was* killed succesfully, and the world went back into relative peace, however many like Goodman prepared for another potential attack. This attack occurs, potentially from Clover's mother, possibly even multiple creatures, thus Goodman takes shelter and rescues two kids with or against their will.
you guys have to start thinking like the hack jj is. yea he only produced but still
john gooddad was a prepper and saw the cloverfield bullshit happening on tv, thought it was the apocalypse and forced his kids into the shelter. hes a violent paranoid schizo and he'll end up killing one or both of them. at the end he'll leave the shelter and the cloverfield monster will be standing there. he'll scream I AM NOT A MONSTER! I AM NOT A MONSTER! and then it'll walk over him leaving him screaming in the middle of an empty field. A FIELD OF CLOVERS
Don't big films often shoot under code names all of the time? I always assumed that was a super common thing.
Why do people have such a hard time wrapping their heads around this?
Post YFW you walk out of the theater after there's no appearance or mention of the Cloverfield monster.
With how many clips in the trailer are them all in the bunker, it makes it look like MOST of the movie will be underground. Look at all the shit that happens. They're normal, then suspicion, then trying to escape. That's all going to take a while to play out. That combined with the budget and the tagline on the poster makes me think it's just a big bait and switch. Which if I'm right, would be heartbreaking.
You do have a point with that, but how did Sam Tyler check his reflection in the mirror if a car that wasn't released until 2 years after the time he woke up in on Life on Mars?
Sometimes shit slips in.
What year did what ever model phone she has come out?
Don't forget though that Cloverfield was set in the near future, not the year of release.
>cheap horror flick that will have little to no advertising until a month before release now has the cloverfield name attached to it
its pretty clear its going to be shit, but it'll show the monster to make sure everyone sees its 3-5 sequels
I always remember this because the majority of the film takes place in the early morning of 23rd May, which was my 12th birthday.]
Also, I think it's too prominent to be a mistake.
5S (the phone she has) came out in 2013, which places this film after that.
There's still a 4 year gap between pre-Clover and iPhone 5S release.
It has a budget of $5 mill. Any monster footage will be minimal.
We will probably get the news reports from the first one in the background, the parasite corpse in the barrel and maybe, maybe some new footage right at the end as whoever is left alive leaves the bunker.
There is a 100% chance that this was a regular movie with an ambiguous spooky reason why they can't go outside and then JJ got involved and said ""But what if Cloverfield?". Then the studio realized a completely unrelated Cloverfield sequel would make an assload more money and they approved it.
This will probably be a trend soon. Barely altering screenplays to loosely associate them with a big franchise. This could just as easily have been Cloverfield as it could have been The Mist or any other movie that could provide a reason for them not to leave the basement. The fact that the original Cloverfield is so clearly interchangeable in the plot is what annoys me about it.
>J.J. is now an enemy of the UDA
The movie was shot in and presented in IMAX.
You waste the money to do an IMAX release unless you've got something to show. J.J. may be a ruseman, but it's still fuel for thought.
I'm personally in the camp that thinks that they almost certainly have something up their sleeves though. We just have to wait until March to see what that something is.
>mfw this turns out to be Shadows of the empire all over again and just a marketing exercise to see if there is still interest in the franchise
Maybe that's why they reworked a low budget thriller, to see if people want more Cloverfield and if this does well we will get a real one.
Don't forget that the studio had this under the low budget big financial success category when it was still called the cellar.
>“[James] Cameron was young. He had just directed Terminator. Cameron had called a meeting to discuss his “next project.” Everyone knew Cameron had written a treatment for Alien 2 that nobody would touch because Alien was not a massive financial success. Alien 2 was not on the table. We expected a professional pitch from Cameron, an outline and a treatment of what he had in mind with a cursory budget; perhaps a couple assistants to run a slide show. Instead Cameron walked in the room without so much as a piece of paper. He went to the chalk board in the room and simply wrote the word ALIEN. Then he added an ‘S’ to make ALIENS. Dramatically, he drew two vertical lines through the ‘S’, ALIEN$. He turned around and grinned. We greenlit the project that day for $18 million.”
He truly is this generations james cameron
Tusk and Red State are garbage. Only a shit director like Smith would somehow devolve his writing from dramas/comedies into shithouse horror films.
And we all know it's because of the weed which he started doing because his big Seth Rogen movie bombed. But don't forget that's all the studios fault! It has nothing to do with his really bland movie.
Kevin Smith fucking sucks and I bet you liked Mallrats too you fucking faggot
That is what you assume happened based on blind speculation and ignoring context.
Because secretive movies NEVER film under mysterious working titles. Especially ones made by filmmakers that like to keep their projects mysterious.
The film was initially titled Cloverfield; however, this changed throughout production before it was finalized as the original title. Matt Reeves explained that the title was changed frequently due to the hype caused by the teaser trailer. "That excitement spread to such a degree that we suddenly couldn't use the name anymore. So we started using all these names like Slusho and Cheese. And people always found out what we were doing!" The director said that "Cloverfield" was the government's case designation for the events caused by the monster, comparing the titling to that of the Manhattan Project. "And it's not a project per se. It's the way that this case has been designated. That's why that is on the trailer, and it becomes clearer in the film. It's how they refer to this phenomenon [or] this case", said the director. The film's final title, Cloverfield, is the name of the exit Abrams takes to his Santa Monica office. In turn, the road used to lead to the Santa Monica Airport, which originally bore the name Clover Field.
One final title, Greyshot, was proposed before the movie was officially titled Cloverfield. The name Greyshot is taken from the archway that the two survivors take shelter under at the end of the movie. Director Reeves said that it was decided not to change the title to Greyshot because the film was already so well known as Cloverfield.
Do any of you really think they'd release a movie IMAX that has nothing worth showing in IMAX?
Legitimately asking. Because that's the only thing keeping me from thinking this will have anything related to Cloverfield in it at all.
You've only been here 3 months? HAHAHAHAHA
Try more like 5 years buddy.
But you're pretty new yourself if you don't know that it was only in the last three months that nearly every thread on the board was SW related, whereas the months preceding that were only handfuls.
People don't actually think this is a literal sequel to Cloverfield right? It's clear what they're doing here. Each film is probably it's own story, as if movie is a secret video in some super top secret military base or some shit, and the Cloverfield is a code name of some sort.
It's also clear that this movie was it's own movie before, and then JJ realized that there was no way it would much money, and found a way to give fans a Cloverfield sequel while also helping the new movie make money.
Do you really think this is fair to compare with Tarantino? A full autist lord who thinks film is dying and is trying to revive it with 70 mm, which literally nobody besides him cares about
Man, last night's wikitrolling was fantastic.
That's a fluke, because Tarantino is an eccentric crazy man who has free reign by the studios to do whatever he wants.
A no-name like Dan Trachtenberg does not have that kind of pull.
So do you have any evidence the entirety of the film takes place in this basement, given we see footage of one of the characters leaving the basement AND that it is shot in IMAX.
Any evidence at all?
Who gives a shit how it came to fruition? Pretty much everyone can piece together what's happened with its production but that doesn't change the fact that the movie might have been re-written to be a true Cloverfield sequel now. I just can't believe that they would put Cloverfield in the title knowing how long people have been waiting for a sequel, if it was a big ruse.
Reminder that the constant namechanges DO NOT mean that this is a recycled script or a project repurposed into a Cloverfield. This is literally all a part of J.J.'s ruse, and he pulled the exact same shit with Cloverfield which had like 4-5 different names it filmed under over the course of it's production.
Also, to those who think the whole movie will be in the bunker. Remember the original trailer for Cloverfield. They showed almost nothing, just a few minutes from the opening act of the film. This is almost certainly a case of the same thing. She wakes up, pretends to trust John Goodman and lives happily with him for a little while, and then escapes when he drops his guard.
>given we see footage of one of the characters leaving the basement
No, we see footage of one of the characters walking up the stairs and looking shocked when she looks out of the window.
The same character that is later seen making sandwiches with Goodman who has plasters on his face after being glassed by her in her attempt to leave.
She clearly saw some shit and then went back to where it's safe.
Editing wikipedia will never stop being funny to me. The only thing worse than those that do it for free are those that do it for free and think that they are doing something positive.
sorry i told attend birthday parties for kids turning 9.
how the fuck is 'yo mamas house' and REEEEE spammed over and over funny? the only time wiki edits are even a bit funny are when they are subtle, not when they look like a grade-schooler who vandalized someones youtube video with retarded comments
I thought the first movie was shakycam trash, why is /tv/ getting hyped about this?
I have faith that 'The Cellar' is part of the marketing. That font for the film strikes me as self aware or meta. I mean why did that website even have a password and the tagline has something like illusion in it or whatever. I have faith.
STINKY MEW FEET
Yes, OH YES, YES YOU ARE RIGHT!
Ray of sunshine.
Last juicy fruit of the pack
The chosen one
Shut up, you're not special for not liking a movie.
Cloverfield did exactly the same thing. It was always intended to be a Cloverfield sequel, the fake titles were just a ruse.
The quote from Abrams earlier today backs this up.
>“The idea came up a long time ago during production. We wanted to make it a blood relative of Cloverfield. The idea was developed over time. We wanted to hold back the title for as long as possible.”
Whoever makes the next thread, pls post this in the OP.
>The cloverfield ARG and hype threads were almost 9 years ago
>shitty bane threads have been around for 4 years
>you've wasted over a decade of your life on this site.
I've been here since before the term "capeshit" even existed. I feel your pain.
It's just a shit movie they realized nobody had any interest in, so they shoehorn Cloverfield into the title to drum up some attention, then they'll tack on some blurry cgi monster to the end to make it just barely related enough to not piss people off.
MEW looks cute as fuck in it though.
MEW look the best on Final Destination 3. got the perfect amount of kinda chubby cheeks
this is going to be exactly like prometheus hype threads where all the pants-on-head retarded speculation and theories turned out to be much better than the movie itself
there was also an Eiffel Tower picture in background.
do you homos have the 2012 non-Cloverfield-related draft of "The Cellar"?
>not a found footage movie
It's just a gimmick to get people to watch an otherwise boring movie. It'll be a typical prison type thriller. A real Cloverfield sequel should stick to the formula of found footage, monster, and disaster movie genres.
It is unreasonable to be excited for this movie?
I feel like if they pull out what they're going for here, it could be one of my favorite movies ever.
Keep in mind that at least half of the posters are toddlers. That said, these days with all of the leaked scripts and three teasers a year before the movie and the Star Wars marketing blitzkrieg it's hard for people to see this sideswipe marketing as plausible.
I also find it neat how different this announcement is to Cloverfield's, because that marketing campaign was really engrossing if you hopped on board
Experimenting within a series is all fine and good, but Cloverfield isn't a masterpiece with huge lore to draw on. It's a basic monster movie, so why not have the sequel within the same genre at least. It's going to be formulaic either way.
Did you even follow the ARG. The movie tries to be close-perspective to an unprepared and uniformed civilian in the midst of a monster attack. The marketing set the monster up to be the environmental/fracking equivalent of the nuclear origins of Godzilla
>the face when the last thing you see is dharma logo is on the outside of the door
Going by the trailer, there is little to none of that in the movie. Yea, I get it, it's just the goddamn trailer and we shouldn't sperg out. Still, it doesn't have the right feel and looks like a breakout type thriller.
I hope this isn't a sequel, but a different story in a different universe with a different kaiju.
A kaiju anthology series has more potential: give moderate budgets to promising new directors, ask them to make a giant monster movie and see what they come up with.
Assuming this movie has anything to do with the previous film and isn't just some kind of bait and switch anthology movie like Halloween 3 the only way I can see this fitting is if the attack on NY happens and the monster did in fact die. NYC is destroyed, but the world keeps humming along for the next few years. Flash forward to now and whenever MEW is driving along before the crash. That first monster attack on NYC prompts John Goodman to build a bunker in case of future monster attacks. Another theory of mine is that he or the guy with the beard (perhaps Teddy Hansenn?) were whistle blowers from Tagruato and knew something was coming, hence why they seem so prepared, and could maybe even explain what's in the barrel (Deep sea nectar). Obviously this is all speculation and I'm just grasping at any straws to try and connect this trailer to the events of the original film and it's viral marketing.
Another theory of mine is that this movie in and of itself is viral marketing. Since this thing isn't a faux found footage movie like the last one (where an attempt was made to create a meta and make it seem as though it was a real event) I could see this maybe being a "movie" that's been made inspired by the "real" monster attack on NYC. Having a number of years pass by since the "tragic" events of that night hollywood takes inspiration from it and starts making movies based around the event.
I can't wait to hear what Doug has to say!
Both very interesting theories.
The meta-movie one especially, but would it not have fake names attached to the film?
Maybe not the actors, but the crew itself.
Hopefully something bigger actually is coming, and this is just one giant marketing ploy.
I mean, $5Mil isn't THAT much for marketing a blockbuster nowadays.
>made me realize i started lurking summer of 2006
jesus christ what the fuck am i doing with my life.
>Monsters come in Many Forms
Obviously its gonna be one of those "john goodman is the real monster because he's lost his humanity and is mean to the people he lives with" films and they're going to show about 3 seconds of cloverfield related footage to tie it into the cannon, a bit like the ending to the mist but with no worldbuilding or showing of the monster before hand.
They're doing this shit for box office bucks, its a way of taking a completely mediocre script and milking it by tying it to a large pre-existing franchise.
Here's the plot based on the trailer and the short bit of info from an interview
>Mew is rescewed by Goodman and is told there's a chemical war going on outside and the world is uninhabitable
>some kind of clue tells her that's wrong (probably when she goes around in the air vents)
>Goodman fucks up her leg when she tries to run
>when she gets to the window she sees houses with the lights on inside, confirming that the world is just fine
Fade to black and then L O S T
I've lurked here for many years like you but unlike you I got an education and a job in those years as well. Kids are the only thing that will stop me from coming here and that's coming in a few years for me.
Why do you fags keep shitting on the movie itself?
>they made it more marketable, must be because it SUCKS heh not like its a niche movie or anything
I bet you'd suck its dick if it was just called Cellar.
It has a budget of $5m dude. Theres not gonna be any big setpieces or scenes like in cloverfield. To put that in perspective, Cloverfield had a budget of $25m and had absolutely no big name stars in it who would eat up big chunks of the budget. Think about that.
WHAT IF ITS LIKE THAT EPISODE OF RICK AND MORTY WITH THE ALIEN PARASITES
WHAT IF JOHN GOODMAN LITERALLY /IS/ THE MONSTER
WHAT IF HE'S MIND CONTROLLED OR SOMETHING
They could also be trying to play the movie as something it is not.
You didn't get that from the trailer? It started as some feel good family comedy then turned into psychological horror.
>shot in IMAX
DMR blowup or digital IMAX is not impressive.
>pissed about the "Monsters come in many forms" tagline
>not excited that it could mean the world and people outside were mutated by the bombs, the monster, and the parasites.
Come on man, be a little hype.
Monsters was made for less than $500,000 dollars.
That argument is invalid. You can do a lot with small budget if you have passionate people who invest a lot of time/effort into a project.
Considering they filmed this movie in 2014 and have had like two years to work on post production, clearly taking their time, this is not that farfetched.
My hope is that this bunker shit will be 10-15 minutes of the film, tops, with the rest showing outdoorsy post apoc.
>"john goodman is the real monster because he's lost his humanity and is mean to the people he lives with"
Or the girl is the monster in that she's out for just herself. She's thin enough that feminists wouldn't defend her, and John Goodman is fat enough for SJWs to not accuse of white privilege. Also she's not a PoC. They thought of it all before casting the roles.
>Monsters was made for less than $500,000 dollar
OH IT SHOWS
Monsters is an anomaly that mostly looks unfinished bar a few scenes and is a film with no A list actors who require bigger paychecks than your average no name. The film was called Cellar before its current name. Doesnt that tell you something? THE WHOLE FILM IS TAKING PLACE IN THE CELLAR.
>Collider: How was your experience making Valencia with Dan Trachtenberg?
>WINSTEAD: That was really cool and really fun. It’s one of those Bad Robot, can’t say anything about the script type of projects, but it was really fun. It’s another really contained film. It’s just three actors, in the whole thing. It’s me and John Goodman and John Gallagher, Jr. I get to be a little bad-ass in it, which was really fun. It had been a few years since I’d done something like that, so that was really cool. I won’t give away too much, but I’m excited about it, for sure.
>Collider: Have you gotten to see it yet?
>WINSTEAD: Just bits and pieces. I was at Bad Robot the other day, and they showed me the trailer for it, which looks really cool. I’m excited. It’s going to be really interesting. It’s basically my character wakes up in a cellar and I’m being kept down there by John Goodman. He tells me that basically the world is over outside because there’s been a nuclear fall-out. It does have similarity to Faults, in some ways, because you don’t know who’s telling the truth or who to believe. There’s a lot of, who’s manipulating who, and all of that. Tonally, it’s very different, but it has some of those same themes.
>girl leaves bunker
>finds decomposing corpse of the cloverfield monster, collapsed after the damage from the bombings was too much for it
>parasites still run around reproducing
Red State had a budget of 4 million, and that had a lot of practical effects, action scenes, locations, and even more big stars.
John Goodman is hardly an expensive actor to nail down.
>souless jew who does nothing but desecrate the corpses of old franchises for cash
>he would never slap him in another movie just like that
>john goodman explodes like a flood carrier form, releasing a bunch of baby crabs
(trigger warning: autoplay)
>A year ago, I spoke to Winstead about making the movie and she told me, "It was really fun. It was really cool. Me and John Goodman stuck in a bunker together for two months. It was awesome! It was a really intense and really fun shoot. He was such an incredible actor to get to act opposite and he’s so perfect for the part because throughout the whole movie you’re wondering if he’s telling the truth, is he trustworthy, is he a nice guy, is he not a nice guy? And it really goes on a rollercoaster of thinking he’s definitely a horrible guy and then no, he’s just misunderstood. You’re really just on the ride with my character in terms of who she can trust in the scenario and if she’s safer with him or safer escaping and battling whatever war is happening or not happening outside. So it’s a pretty interesting one."
>Winstead said she loved making the film, with its confined sets and small cast. "It makes it a really low key vibe when it’s just a couple actors. You feel like you’re almost just going and doing theater every day. It really did feel like theater because it all takes place in one space and it was just us battling one another with words and things. It’s fun. There’s not a lot of movies like that right now, so it was a treat to get to do."
>"We wanted to make it a blood relative of Cloverfield. The idea was developed over time. We wanted to hold back the title for as long as possible." - JJ Abrams
Fuck you. It's been a Cloverfield sequel since the start. They just avoided using the name to keep it a secret.
Can we talk more about the original Cloverfield? Been a while since I saw it, are there really 2 monsters? What is the deep sea nectar? I remember seeing this in theaters with my friends in highschool, 2 of them passed away a few weeks later due to a fatal car accident and Cloverfield was the last movie we all saw together. Honestly hyped for this, really hoping I wont be let down