'In the book, Hermione wasn't all that attractive. Emma is obviously beautiful though. But she was still the perfect person for the role. Not saying that she was unattractive, she's gorgeous where as book Hermione isn't. But she's still cast correctly despite not matching my description of the character'.
I love every time this comes up an JKR has to bullshit her way through an answer
exactly. He's literally the most famous sports star in the world, Hermione becomes more Mary Sue as the series goes on. by the last book she basically carries the other two around
Yes it would. Some men are more attractive to intelligence and who can raise their offspring the best, as long as she's not a huge cow or too ugly
I mean, Eleanor Roosevelt was pretty ugly, and yet FDR married her because she was good at helping him
Iirc she went through some kinda metamorphosis then, wasn't she described from Harry's perspective as basically 10/10 top slut when she came down in that winter dance gown or whatever?
Who's George's self insert, Tyrion or Sam? I bet he thinks he's as clever as Tyrion IRL which is why it takes him years to write a few chapters worth of dialog for a cunning mastermind.
>durr all jocks are meanies who go after 10/10 models, one of them stole my crush in high school
People are attracted to different women. Maybe the Slav guy just wanted a girl he can depend on? Or a smart girl?
Who the fuck cares anyone, it's just a book
Because they're low IQ and haven't read actual literature yet
I remember reading a screenshot of people rallying behind the casting of black hermione in the play. I don't really mind or care, but they quoted the books saying Hermione was tan and it was enough to warrant a black Hermione.
Now the whole thing just feels off. It's a trend of turning white characters to non-white characters. In general, I'd rather have an established black character be on the spotlight, than racebending characters.
I remember the book mentioning her two front teeth were a bit big, but not really to the point where it sounded like she looked hideous with them. The book did not have any problems describing actual ugly characters in it.
I thought her teeth were like pic related. Definitely notable, but not to the point of hideousness.
isn't the only "ugly" thing about hermoine her hair in the books? i mean unless i'm miss-remembering she basically gave ron his first boner when she straightened it for the tri-wizard ball thing
you're right, but i think she was cursed at some point and that made them bigger. i remember something from the book about Hermoine feeling bad for fixing her teeth beyond their original state with magic considering her parents were dentist.
I remember her hair being too bushy and her two front teeth being a bit big and noticeable.
I wouldn't really say that makes an ugly description. It's just standard teenager flaws, like having a fucking horrible hairstyle, braces/glasses or atrocious fashion sense when we were in high school
I think it's more like, he went for the one girl who wasn't fawning over him. Nothing is more desirable to someone who can have anything than the one thing they can't have handed to them.
The only passage that claims her to be white is one where it says "Hermione appeared, white-faced" which is not an expression solely created for white people.
It is pretty sad that people get so worked up over a black actress being cast in a role of a fictitious character though.
I understand I might be being trolled, but what the hell. Let's do this.
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Thus, many paedophiles cannot be reasoned with. They know only their selfish, sexual gratification. Instead, revel in the knowledge that what you're reading, is the truth.
To the OP and any person who defends paedophilia, I respect your right to free-speech and the right to argue what you believe are "merits" of said-practice on a forum board.
Know this, however. Were I to meet you on the street and it was conclusive that you were a paedophile who had offended in some manner, shape or form, I would shoot you. I would shoot 50 of you. It's just a fact. I harbour no hatred toward you, just the knowledge that your demise would help create a safer society for our children to explore their innocence and sexuality among themselves.
Know that I am far from a "crazed, lone wacko" in this opinion. Multitudes of rational people would do exactly the same. Live in fear, or seek help. Adapt or perish. Your choice.
>It is pretty sad that people get so worked up over a black actress being cast in a role of a fictitious character though.
>pretends not to see all the other white ppl replaced by nig nogs
Oh yea! it's perfectly ok to replace white people by black people! people shouldn't get so worked over it! you shouldn't get worked over it when you are thrown to the trash white ppl! you certainly aren't a possible victim of racism!
No. She does appear white in both every cover illustration (admittedly, the only ones it would be very reasonable to take as canon are the brit ones) and the chapter illustrations (which one would tend to assume ARE canon because they appear in every version).
Don't even disagree with the VERY basic part of that premise, but yes, you are clearly a "crazed, lone, wacko". Talking big on the internet is different than real life, and if you were willing to do what you say you are willing to do, you are insane. Especially if you are a parent. Murder is murder, nutjob.
It just reminds me of all that sjw art of obviously white characters getting drawn as black, fat, or with acne and freckles even when the actual character looks nothing like that.
Why do people feel the need to fuck with pre-existing characters like that? Just create your own.
She was cast well when she was 11 years old, and she also played the roll well. She became more attractive as the films go on due to her maturing, but she still played it well.
That's all she means.
How you like those shitty parts of Gilgamesh where the same passage is repreated like five fucking times
>hhur dur but it was originally told orally, it's a technique to make it easier for the storyteller to keep the story going without pausing to remember what happens next!
Fuck off retard, how exactly does that make it good writing?
You are literally on the same tier as people who can't comprehend that "literally" doesn't always mean "literally". How does it feel to be incapable of recognizing non-literal language?
I had butterflies in my stomach
>Oh my god, someone help those poor butterflies!
She is pulling my leg
>That's bizarre, why would you pull on someone's leg?
When will you drop them a line?
>Why would that character want a line dropped for them?
I can't keep my head above water.
>Someone get a lifeguard!
You should keep an eye out for that.
>Wow, that character can control their eyes independently!
It's raining cats and dogs
>What a strange weather system this universe must have.
You spilled the beans!
>Gosh someone is going to have to clean those up!
Why are you feeling blue?
>Pretty unusual to have a character with synesthesia.
That jacket costs an arm and a leg.
>What a barbaric monetary system this story has!
Go take a chill pill.
>Medical technology is amazing in this world! Break a leg
>What kind of dick is this guy?
>Oh god why can't I stop being so retarded?
>language can NEVER EVER CHANGE WORDS ONLY EVER MEAN ONE THING BECAUSE I SAY SO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>he's genuinely angry
>can't tell the difference between an idiom and a description
JK Rowling drawing of Harry Potter characters from 1999.
>can't tell the difference between an idiom and a description
Says the guy who thinks a passage where a character is described as having a white face, many pages after said character is introduced, when the character has just encountered something frightening, is meant as a description of the character's natural skin tone. Yeah I'm angry, I don't like sharing a board with someone this fucking stupid.
Just out of curiosity do you also dismiss the entire works of Aristotle because he believes that slavery is morally justifiable? Your reasoning is exactly the same as someone who does, so I want to know if you do?
>writing style is unnecessarily repetitive and this is poor writing
>So do you not read something because someone's morals disagree with yours?
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
The point is that you judge the entirety of a work on something based on what would be unacceptable to produce by today's standards but not on what was acceptable to produce at the time it was made. The notion that the Epic of Gilgamesh is shit because a few passages were repeated (which was fucking common as shit for writings of that style and of that time period) is as retarded a statement as saying that HP Lovecraft was shit because he named his cat "Nigger Man" in Rats in the Walls.
Shit writing is not any less shit just because people hundreds of years ago were more willing to accept shit. It being a standard of the times does not make it good. If you have to pretend you're a mindless idiot who was barely intelligent enough to read to enjoy the book, it's probably not very good.
Skin colour doesn't really matter all that much in Harry Potter. The characters discriminate based on magic ability and whether you're pure blooded or not, not because of skin colour.
It's still super retarded to change an established character just to appease a bunch of screeching harpies on the internet.
I think Kate Beckinsale would make a better MILF Hermione.
I myself wouldn't mind self-inserting into Herminone.
>His teammates would give him hell.
Spoke like the kid who didn't have any friends.
If you stand up for yourself no one is going to fuck with you, no matter what. That applies in your faggot high school just as it does in the corporate world.
If they don't like it they can go fuck themselves.
Learn this. Your life will be much easier.
I dont have to pretend Im a mindless retard to enjoy or understand the value of Gilgamesh or the Illiad or any other ancient epic. I just have to not be so much of an autistic sperg that I can't skim past a five line passage repeated in different parts three times.
Seriously, youre actually trying to argue that a venerated classic of literature is bad because of a facet that is so trivial most people forget it was even a "problem", and that no one should consider it good either. What do you even hope to gain from having such a silly opinion?
>Seriously, youre actually trying to argue that a venerated classic of literature is bad
>What do you even hope to gain from having such a silly opinion?
Well, unlike you, my opinions are not designed to gain social capital by liking the same things other people like. How can you even live with yourself praising something so bad you have to skip over it because it's so pointless and boring?
>How can you live with being ok at skipping over five lines in a four thousand year old epic poem that is the first great work of literature ever written?
Gee I dont know, it must be because Im seeking other peoples approval for my opinions or whatever other nonsense youre saying.
Rowling is not claiming Hermione was intended to be black all along. She's saying that her skin colour was never relevant to the story.
How fucking stupid can you get?
She does it because Harry Potter was easily one of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the seriesüf only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but itüfs certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
a-at least the books are g-g-good though
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King
>Can't even understand the obvious implications I laid out apparently
You could have just started out by saying you're an idiot and not wasted my time.
And learn to use an apostrophe you fuck.
>So JKK is saying Hermione was supposed to be an ugly black girl?
If you read the books Hermione is horse faced until like 3 books later when she magics away her gap toothed overbite (something difficult to understand since both her parents are dentists). Think Gretchen from Recess minus the specs and with shitty, frizzy hair.
>Fuck off retard, how exactly does that make it good writing?
The actual reason Shakespeare wrote his plays in iambic pentameter was so that the retards in his theater company could memorize it better, like the way Schoolhouse Rock teaches the multiplication tables.
It's mnemonic disguised as a literary device.
> drawing matches actors appearances and costumes even where it contradicts the novels themselves
Snape had a full on moustache which was never referred to again after the movie was cast, iirc
>I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated.
I beta tested a visual novel written by a number of writers they got salty as fuck when we brought that up to them. Editors should crack down on authors more.
>The only passage that claims her to be white is one where it says "Hermione appeared, white-faced" which is not an expression solely created for white people.
Sorry, but Black people don't become Caucasian when they're scared and JK Rowling would have never used this line is Hermione was anything by White, not to mention that EVERY representation of Hermione in the entire franchise, has always been of a White girl.
>Half a millenium later only you think that was a poor choice
Oh yes, I can see how that is an obvious reference to academic critical opinion.
Even if it was, "popular opinion" doesn't become valid just because the people it is popular with are academics
Then why doesn't the author say that? If she just said "it doesn't really matter to me if she's black, artistic interperitation and whatnot." that way they wouldn't even have that pale face argument
Book Hermione>>>>Movie Hermione
I hated that she was fucking perfect in the movie. They took a realistic character with strengths and weaknesses and just made her into this perfect, always right person.
Krum seemed shallow as fuck judging by his conversation with Harry in the last book. There's no way he would have gone for a nerdy type if she weren't hot which contradicts rowling's statement.
That was just Rowling forcing another person to say that Ginny is ridiculously good looking.
I don't know why she did that so much. It's like she wanted to make sure that Harry hooked up with the most perfect girl in the universe.
>If you stand up for yourself no one is going to fuck with you, no matter what
>hermione is considered beautiful in bongland
Not really. Despite the fact she was hot and excellent academically/magically in the movies, she was still a massive autist, an incredibly annoying tryhard and had no other friends (especially girls) besides Harry and Ron. She definitely had flaws.
Why are Redditors clapping themselves on the back about being so progressive when they wouldn't look twice at that ugly black woman if it meant they could sniff Emma Watsons arsehole for 10 seconds?
You're right, this is totally an unbelievable thing to happen in the Wizard school.
>If you stand up for yourself no one is going to fuck with you, no matter what
Hello B URSELF meme my old friend, I've come to get rused by you again
If there was ever a colored person in the books, they were described as such.