What's are the worst Oscar wins in history? Doesn't matter which category, just the ones which made people wft or just blatently didn't deserve it.
The Artist won best picture in 2012 and I still don't know why or how.
This was a very good film and a safe choice, not nearly the worst. It was beautifully directed and acted, charming, and about Hollywood, which the Academy loves. Script didnt amount to much, but still a good film.
The Artist is a terrific facsimile of the Silent Era. The only people who think it doesn't deserve the awards it received are those with no understanding of Cinema history and the difficulties of creating and selling a silent movie in this era.
It's a far more important film than something like Dances With Wolves.
This was a very shit film and a safe choice, very nearly the worst. It was terribly directed and acted, grotesque, and about cucks, which the Academy loves. Its win didnt amount to much, but still a shit flick.
Just think: 35 years ago, before many of you were even born, the Academy was proven to be the sham many had suspected it of being.
Deserving or not, awards are merely a popularity contest. They dont have any value
The only decade I can think of that had good films winning the Academy Award every year was the 70s
Jlaw won best actress for basically nothing. She was in American Hustle for all of 20 minutes for fucks sake, and there was absolutely nothing remarkable about her acting at all.
>this beat apocalypse now
This beat Taxi Driver, All The President's Men AND Network. Think about that for a moment.
This only works if you post what should have won instead. Tree of Life should have beaten The Artist. I didn't see the king's speech so I don't really know, but inception was nominated for best picture. I would have loved to see that win.
>It was also a better film.
No, it wasn't.
>The type of people who champion Apocalypse Now are the type who haven't even read Heart of Darkness.
This doesn't even make sense. And off-topic: Heart of Darkness is extremely overrated.
Nah. That was the best movie in a shit year.
Are you dipshits too young to remember that this pic related bullshit won over
- Saving Private Ryan
- The Thin Red Line
- Life Is Beautiful
I mean, seriously?
>life is beautiful
>saving private Ryan
>the thin red line
No justice ;_;
3 years after the 50th anniversary of the end of WW2. I'm guessing everyone saw the 50 years shit and went, "oh shit, that whole generation is gonna die soon...we could make a lot of money off them going to the movies."
Just so happened that they made 3 fucking amazing WW2 movies.
Paddy was such a fucking prophetic genius. Apart from Altered States being the greatest drug movie of all time, Network was so ahead of it's time that the premise of it's shock show is probably simmering with some TV producers today:
"A show that follows REAL TERRORISTS committing REAL ACTS OF TERROR every week, and we get to follow them back to their HQs to see how they live and eat and deal with the day-to-day."
Also, because I love saying this to West-Wing-Newsroom-fags; Sorkin is a poor-man's Chayefsky, with a quarter of the talent and zero subtlety. When Paddy wrote a 5-min monologue, no matter how unnatural it is for a person to talk that long and eloquently about anything, you were scared from how honest and insightful the character was being. When sorkin does it, it's a fucking checklist for SJWs and PC-police the world over. Sorkin is a fucking hack.
Rape-it Roland wasn't that good to be honest. The first 20-30 minutes were really nice for the homage to retro games but that's it.
Brave is a piece of shit though, I agree, at least Ralph was watchable.
I don't know anyone who actually remembers it and never see it mentioned anywhere.
>Best Supporting Actress
>Best Art Direction
>Best Costume Design
>Best Film Editing
>Best Sound Mixing
Honestly? IMO (and a shit ton of people will disagree with me on this) when you have a year like that, where you can objectively say that they're all great, you go with the highest grossing film that most of the american public went to see. I know people hate me for saying that, but it's the way I feel about it. Especially when Rocky beat all the others at the box office so badly, and was a great movie.
now you realize that oscars mean jack shit, garbage like the artist won for best picture and citizen kane didn't, rear window didn't win a single fucking oscar
tell me this, in 50 years, will anyone even remember the artist? or 12 years a slave? or birdman? of course not, but citizen kane and rear window will still be loved, and remembered, and praised as the greatest films ever made
>will anyone even remember the artist? or 12 years a slave? or birdman?
> but citizen kane and rear window will still be loved, and remembered
still haven't seen Citizen Kane and have no interest in doing so.
>not liking chicago
>not enjoying catherine zeta jones and prime renee zelwigger running around in short skimpy dresses dancing seductively
Are you like a homosexual?
The movie itself when compared to the cinema of the past fifty years or so is not all that great. The movie itself is instead remembered for the techniques that it combined into a single film and popularized for movies at large, like the use of flashbacks and a nonlinear temporal stream, as well as deep focus and low angle shots, makeup techniques, etc.
>Dog Day Afternoon
Let that sink in
>but citizen kane and rear window will still be loved, and remembered, and praised as the greatest films ever made
Citizen Kane and Rear window were beat, respectively, by How Green was my Valley and On the Waterfront.
A lot of people love How Green and it has a solid reception, but sure it's now overshadowed by Citizen Kane (and the rest of Ford's later career). It remains a good movie.
On the Waterfront is considered to be among the greatest American films ever made and one of Brando's best performances, its reception is on par with Rear Window's. Maybe normies don't know it enough, but that's only because Hitchcock is extremely popular so Rear Window is instantly more famous. Both are extremely well-received so it's not a good example in my opinion.
Dog Day Afternoon > Nashville > Jaws > One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest > Barry Lyndon
Barry Lyndon is a beautiful film, but it's Kubrick's most overlong and indulgent movie. The story isn't that compelling, even if the visuals are one-of-a-kind.
Yeah, dude. This isn't 1920 where people are starved for skin and will sit through a shit show just to catch a glimpse of a woman's ankle.
If you want to see naked chicks, you can literally just Google "naked chicks", no reason to endure a bad musical.
How the hell did this win over The Social Network?
holy shit what a year I'd be happy about any of those winning
actually pretending like she is attracted to Billy Bob Thornton is the best acting of her career
WWII fatigue, also they split the vote. Also life is beautiful is garbage.
Very very weak year, one of the weakest ever.
Simple Highway Robbery. Capote and Munich were both so much better
Damn what a great year
dances with wolves beating goodfellas
the oscars have been a joke ever since and then they made a mockery of themselves by trying to make up for it so many years later giving scorsese an oscar for the piece of shit the departed
I'm curious about how this works out and I imagine in my head that it goes like this:
Studio A is making a WWII movie.
Studio B catches wind
Given that all studios have, most likely, 50 WWII movie scripts sitting around, and at least a couple directors who have expressed interest in making one, Studio B decides to make one too (for reasons)
Studio C follows suit.
Or it's just a coincidence. But really, seeing that Hitgirl movie trailer immediately before the Independence day 2 trailer made me think about this again. Who thought it was a good idea to release a big budget movie about aliens when the biggest alien movie success's sequel is coming out and then put the trailers together?
>People complain women don't make enough movies
>This is what happens when a woman does make a movie
>The Academy thinks they're supporting feminism, meanwhile the movie has absolutely no legacy
This. I work in said system. For a while it was at the hospital he was working at when he wrote this. There was definitely shady shit going on in the past, but the pendulum has swung so far the other way that it's actually become detrimental to a client's treatment. People are so shit scared of being accused of abuse that the tiptoe around the mentally ill like they're timebombs.
Nah, you either aren't old enough to have been around when DWW came out, and it's easy to look back on it now as shit, but it was a huge phenomena when it came out and EVERYONE was talking about it. Goodfellas? Not so much, even though it was a much better movie, obviously.
Or it could be that academy voters aren't kept in a soundproof box in the basement and shown a group of films like a sequestered trial jury? Hmmm? Maybe they are affected by what's happening in the world?
>I will shit on a great homage movie because there are no balck people nominated this year
> Shakespeare in Love
Entertaining flick that showed us Gwyneth's nipples but in no sense ahead of the pack.
>Has anyone even seen this?
KvK was the first movie to look at separation and divorce from the man's perspective. Streep later said in interviews that her mental picture of her character (a complete cunt) was "I never loved him" and it shows. Good movie even if you aren't a raging MRA.
Apocalypse Now came out just as we were starting to tire of Vietnam oscar bait (Coming Home, I'm looking at you).
>This beat Taxi Driver, All The President's Men AND Network. Think about that for a moment.
It was a year of excellent nominees for BP, someone had to win and the rest had to lose. The Academy took the underdog narrative too literally and gave it to the newest kid on the block. And we got Rocky V as thanks.
> The King's Speech
Forgettable if not for Colin Firth stuttering cuss words and glossed over the poor stammering fuck also being a Nazi sympathizer who only gave up the crown so he could marry complete trash.
> Ordinary People
Prior to this no one believed Mary Tyler Moore could act, or Robert Redford could direct. Raging Bull proved to be one of Scorsese's routine "pet Dago doomed by his personality traits" movies and as such was at best an also-ran.
Most of the rest of the gripes ITT are p legit though
>Sorkin is a poor-man's Chayefsky, with a quarter of the talent and zero subtlety
And let's not forget this opener:
God bless his memory for having the balls to say it.
>Entertaining flick that showed us Gwyneth's nipples but in no sense ahead of the pack.
Implying that when Gwyneth wasn't sucking her way to the top she had Daddy pay for everything else...
>tfw strange days and point break are her best movies but because the academy mostly ignores action and absolutely hates sci-fi (no imagination) she went off and did shit like this and got praised for it
fucking hate the oscars
>mocks those fags to their face
>and then says "not to more important matters" as if anyone cares who wins anymore
>shirley maclaine looking salty as fuck
B A S E D
>because the academy mostly ignores action and absolutely hates sci-fi (no imagination) she went off and did shit like this and got praised for it
The Hurt Locker was essentially an action thriller. Obviously the "important" subject matter made it more awards friendly.
I hate this Barry Lyndon maymay. It looks very nice but the story is all over the place, the script is boring and the acting is fucking shit. Post-Spartacus Kubrick is only barely functional.
>81st Academy Awards
>No Gran Torino or Chalgeling
>Slumdog Millionaire and Milk clean up the major categories
>Studio A is making a WWII movie.
>Studio B catches wind
This is literally how Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and The Wild happened. They were the result of leaks about To Wong Foo and Madagascar, respectively.
She won her Oscar by doing one of the two things that usually guarantee it:
1. name actress appearing topless for the first time showing they're serious about their craft (see also Helen Hunt's wet t-shirt in As Good As It Gets)
2. Homely to ugly actress in their first major role (Louise Fletcher in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and Kathy Bates in Misery) which ironically kills their career because now studios are worried they'll ask too much
That's not all Best Actresses of course but those two categories are the equivalent of Name Actor Plays Cripple/Tranny/Jew/Slave for men.
The advent of CGI nudity is going to kill the first category dead in a few years.
Chayefsky was no one's idea of a conservative but he rightly felt that this wasn't a holiday where actors' political opinions suddenly had a forum regardless of what they were. He lived through the blacklist and didn't appreciate overfed handsome people being able to show off without consequence.
And Nicholson got his only Oscar for playing the cripple even though it's painfully obvious Melvin was written for someone younger and shlubbier with zero charisma like PSH had grown tired of playing.
"Taxi" was a great dialogue show without being all Sorkin and AGAIG was James Brooks in top form here as well.
I know the Le Based Cameron meme but Titanic winning over Good Will Hunting is pretty much everything wrong with Hollywood.
Just because its's BIG and popular and had a scale only possible through dodging Union labor laws by utilizing Mexican slave labor doesn't mean it's GOOD. In fact there are parts of this movie that are just plain awful. A big dumb self indulgent horribly written movie defeating a low budget tightly written perfectly acted character drama is just embarrassing. Hollywood rewarding their paycheck plain and simple.
In 1948 Bill and Coo won an honorary academy award. The movie is about a city of birds. It wasn't released until after the ceremony. They were just that excited about a movie about birds.
If it wasn't for peta shit we could still have movies like this.
Too bad Hollywood didn't listen to him. Redgrave was not even the worse. Clooney and Arquette were more ridiculous.
I figure this year they will show once more that they didn't listen.
This would've won, only Coppola was too good that year.
>The Conversation won the Palme d'Or at the 1974 Cannes Film Festival. It was nominated for three Academy Awards in 1974 and lost Best Picture to The Godfather Part II, another Francis Ford Coppola film.
Seriously, the only time two deserving films by the same Director that could've easily won the Oscar if they were released in different years.
>Holy fucking shit man 2012 was a terrible year for movies.
Except we had one of the very best American films of all time.
And one of the best Canadian
and indeed films full stop
IT SHOUD HAVE BEEN PRINCESS KAGUYA
Dances with Wolves beat Goodfellas
A Beautiful Mind beat LotR
Chicago beat LotR
LotR beat Mystic River
Slumdog Millionaire beat the Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Things have been absolute shit since, except for Birdman
>tfw 2001 didn't even get Best Kinography from Beginning of Time
Not Disney enough
Not capeshit enough
Not enough cute inflatable robot that makes it easy to sell toys
Kaguya never had a chance.
I don't know who else would have won it that year apart from maybe There Will Be Blood. I kinda thought it winning was something of a make-up call for 1996, but 2007 was also a pretty weak year overall.
The artist was great. If you didn't like it, fine. But if you thought it was a bad movie you are objectively wrong and you should stop lurking on film boards.
r8 my poster
>if the list of movies you like isn't comprised of at least 75% of movies over the age of 60, you are a child.
You sound like a tryhard film buff.
THIS. I work with the fruits of that movie's labors every day.
What this country needed was reform, but the damn popular culture libs and bleeding hearts decided instead to dismantle the entire mental health system and exacerbate homelessness and adult malnutrition for years to come
Thats a nice film ye got there, Mr Ralph, shame if I coasted on my company's name.
"The Artist" was actually the one movie that sparked my interest in the silent era for good!
In that regard, to ME it has actually been one of the most influential movies out there.
And I wouldn't be too surprised if
a) it caused a similar reaction in other viewers and
b) a lot of people just loved the movie because it was sweet, touching declaration of love for an era long gone