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What went wrong?
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quentin tarantino narrating gay porn
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WARM
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>>64863225
Nothing
It's his best movie since Jackie Brown
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Overlong and unnecessary scenes.

Chapter four is not needed at all, because we can fill in the blanks on what happened in Minnies once we know who is in on it.
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>>64863225

this fucking guy getting soo preachy in his flicks it destroys the latest ones from the inside out
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Part 3 onwards
>cuck porn
>someone's poisoned the coffe *wink wink nudge*
>killing off best character

i could go on
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nigs
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>>64863454
And what was the need for dragging out a introduction to all the characters in the shack , the could of just walked in and shot them all , it was 2 women and a old man.

>yfw that whole chapter was so he could make the 'Ask me if my ass is fat in french' joke
was pretty cringe and not funny at all
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>>64863225
Creates a set of very interesting characters who all have different reasons to distrust eachother and then completely destroys it by being self-indulgent and having the customaray ending of all the characters shooting eachother.
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Tarantino has no idea on how to edit down his movies, he's said that when he makes movies there's no director's cut down the line because whatever he releases is his director's cut. He's too arrogant to self-analyse the problems of his scripts and thinks everyone loves exploitation flicks just as much as he does.
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Wasnt even clear who the Hateful 8 where
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>>64863225
nothing, best movie after jackie Brown, Americans hate them because they can't accept what they really are
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>>64863454
>>64863597
2d4u
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>>64863747

This.
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Nothing. He's shit since Jackie Brown.
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What's going on here is that it's a ghetto movie @3:17
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That same tired old cast.
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>3+ hour movie about people sitting in a cabin
>Tarantino inserts his greatest fantasy about sucking warm black Dingus
>silly gory finale
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>>64863225
Tarantino's (good) editor died a few years ago
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The movie went downhill as soon as Tarantino's faggoty voice began narrating
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>>64863747
>thinks everyone loves exploitation flicks just as much as he does

Or maybe he's just making movies for himself. Maybe, despite what a number of people might think, an artist doesn't owe the audience anything and can create for his own reasons. Hell, at this point, Tarantino IS his own goddamn genre. Nigger.
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>and that's why this chapter is called: Domergue's Got a Secret
Movie is too self indulgent.
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>>64865810
If he's making movies for himself, what's your problem with everyone else disliking it?
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>>64863747

RIP Sally Menke
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dunno I kind of liked it... it was definitely better than Django
it also felt like 2 hours so that was nice
in retrospect there are things that were unnecessary but he shouldve replaced them with something more juicy than straight up cutting them
still enjoyed it, I'd say on par with the Basterds
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>>64865879
>If he's making movies for himself, what's your problem with everyone else disliking it?

I have no problem at all. And I never suggested that I did.
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3 hours long and not a single close-up of a foot.
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Wait so I know the narrator is apparently QT, but he sounds nothing like he usually does.
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>>64866082
trash fetish
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>>64865992
This.
You really notice her absence in Jango and Hateful 8
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>>64865810
Just because hes doing what he wants for himself, doesn't mean anyone else has to like the products of said actions.
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>>64866309
Django was great till leo turned around.
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>>64866315
No, they don't. But to insinuate that Tarantino's a bad director because he doesn't cater to another person's tastes(yourself included) is disingenuous and, frankly, misses the point of criticism.
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>>64866482
In the case of hateful 8, tarantino is a bad director because of "and that's why this chapter is called: Domergue's Got a Secret"
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>>64866082
maybe cause there was just a few female characters and they not being from the attractive type
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so people who dislike it say its overlong, indulgent, cuck porn, and edgy

why do people who like it think its good?
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I want to see Tarantino do a movie without using gratuitous violence, the word nigger, and referencing exploitation films.
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>>64863225
I liked it. It was too long tho. Maybe 100min would've been enough.
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>>64866729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MUbRZSg80
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>>64863225
>using le 70mm film as a hook to get people into the cinema
>99% of the movie takes place in a little cabin, the rest in blizzarding snow

also it was too small a scale, people expect more from mr meme
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>>64863225
OCHO NEGRO
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Well, he's SJW.
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>>64866350
Leo was one of the few good things in the movie
>inb4 le reddit

>>64866305
Does he even like feet anymore or has his fetish completely changed from beautiful milky feet to getting raped by niggers? Considering by how many minutes he played out his bbc sucking fantasy I'd say we're not seeing any more feet in his movies, but more black dingus.
Also >trash fetish
How long have you been a cuckold?
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UNO
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FARTO
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@
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3:17
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3:17
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3:17
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>>64863225
How could Tarantino take a song from a movie and put it in his movie?
I mean it has been done before, the same song in several movies, but even if he got the rights, how could he tolerate taking a song that was specifically written for another movie and put it in his?
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>>64866892
The character calvin candee was good. Leo's performance detracted heavily from it.
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Not much.

Hilarious how normies find it "boring" and "slow"
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>>64863225
I almost walked out of the theater during the black dick scene.

That was just cringe inducing.
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>>64867460
Gonna go see the movie this saturday. How long does it go on for?
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>>64867480
Only 2-3 mins I think.
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>>64867423
havent seen it, slower than django?
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>>64865630
uno farto
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30mm may may
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First Tarantino movie I've truly enjoyed since Jackie Brown. It was great but I think the ending would have been better without Mannix reading the letter.
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>>64867588
From what I remember of Django, much.
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>>64866892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJa-biG7dFo
He's done with feet.
pekazz
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>>64863225
>What went wrong?
directed by quentin tarantino
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>both my sis and her bf have a cold
>coughing loudly throughout the movie
>crackling the bag of gummy worms in my right ear
>then suddenly 3 pothead hippies with clothes threaded from pure hemp sit right infront of me

fuck why do I even go to theatres, they're only fun if you're the only one in it
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>>64867460
I saw a few whites walk out during this scene. They couldn't handle the bantz
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>>64866568
The movie is an adaptation of a script written for a stageplay. Domergue's Got a Secret would have been spoken by a Narrator before the next scene. Knowing that the coffee is poisoned, and that it was poisoned by someone in the room, is absolutely essential for the tension in the following scene.

The Hateful Eight doesn't play out like most Westerns. It's a weird, half-born thing. I deeply enjoyed the film, but I absolutely see why a number of anons didn't. It broke far too many conventions and, at the same time, was too familiar. The point of the film is all about that tension that builds and builds. From the moment you sit down, you know that one of those no good sons of bitches is a bigger asshole than the rest. It plays on that.

Tarantino films are like fusion cuisine. He plays off of every genre he covers, mixing it with 70's grandiosity and exploitation. It's almost always weird and fun for cinemafiles but it's rarely perfect.
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Because he started saying policemen were murderers
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>>64870645
Well said anon.
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>>64863391
It really is.
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>>64869458
btfo
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Was Warren lying about warm dingus? Did it ever really happen?
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IT'S A GHETTO GRAZZI
IS THIS THE CRAB LEG OR DID THE FALCON TURN ALL OF A SUDDDAAAAA
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Why does the dialogue in his new films sound so stilted when it's so natural in the old ones?
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>>64871287
I imagine you're memeing but no, it was a lie to rile the old guy up
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>>64867460
I thought it was very funny. His boy. Black dude's dingus in his mouth.

Fuck the South and especially that character. I wish President Grant finished what General Sherman started.
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>>64872868
because you should realise that you are a wonderful person, no matter who you are anon.
I believe in you, you deserve to have your desires fulfilled.
I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
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It was about 20 minutes too long.
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>>64869678

Working odd hours is great, I can usually catch movies either first thing in the morning or late as possible at night, where they're quite empty.
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Nothing. Was his best film in a long time. Better than Django and Bastards.
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>>64863225
its a good movie. His other movies are just tooo good so this one seems like a lesser movie. Definately still hilarious tho
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>>64863757
4 people arrive on a buss.. then 4 more.. only confusing thing is the trailer before the movie that some fan released and said people who weren't actually main parts of the movie were the eight
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>>64863757
Sam Jackson
The Sheriff
The Hangman
JJL
Michael Madsen
Bob the Mexican
Tim Roth
The General
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>>64873376
literal cuck
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>>64863225
About 3 minutes and 17 seconds into the movie, there was this really weird sound. It ruined the movie for me.
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>>64877032
I like that, it was cutting the air, right?
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He pissed off a ton of right-wing idiots by being against murder. That's his only crime.
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The flashback scene should've been 5 minutes at the very most. I personally liked seeing how the cabin was before the gang took over but it went on too long.

Otherwise the movie was paced well and I didn't notice over 2 hours had gone by at the end.
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>>64863391
this.
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>>64866127
agreed.
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>>64877199
Then why does the black guy kills all the white guys in an enjoying and obnoxious fashion ?
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>>64870645
>Knowing that the coffee is poisoned, and that it was poisoned by someone in the room is absolutely essential for the tension in the following scene.

Show. Don't tell.
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>>64867085
Maybe because the song was never used in the actual movie and he didn't want it to go to waste?
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>>64877691
This. Would have made the overall scene less cringe if it panned away from Jackson's ramblings and showed us the coffee being poisoned, if not who did it.
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>>64877748
what the fuck are you talking about?
I 'm talking about Bowie's "Putting out Fires (with gasoline)" and the movie Cat People.
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>>64877756
scene is only cringey if you're a racist desu senpai
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it was basically tarantino jerking off to a screenplay, which, I liked
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>>64877862
or just not a fag
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Tarantino being paranoid about script leaks and constantly changing it, most likely while they were even filming.
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>>64877796
Ooh, right. I thought you were talking about the song "Beastiality" from The Thing so never mind!
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>>64865768
the use of 'dingus' got me laughing. Watching Samuel hooterin and hollerin about his dingus was so out of place in this film.
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>>64863454
The flashback is needed to remind the audiences that Channing Tatum is a bad guy, that's it
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>>64877942
and I would also like to add, such are the rewards of the true movie lovers who stay to watch the credits.
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>>64877897
Jar Jar style.
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> i hate white people too
> a-am I black enough guise ? can i join u now
the movie. He used to be so cool in his Pulp Fiction times. I guess he's just a falling star now, grasping at straws to be relevant.
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>>64877936
looks like someone's a little insecure

did the big scary warm dingus make someone go pee-pee in his private area? a boo hoo hoo :' (((
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>>64878236
who the fuck types like that, even ironically
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>>64863225
Sally Menke isn't the editor, so it feels too long, with pointless filler scenes and jarring cuts.

And there was no point in filming this in 70mm.

That said, I enjoyed the performances and the writing.
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>>64878311
the guy with a much bigger dick than you, faggot
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>>64877691
Not to go to argue over stylistic choice(especially considering that the movie is an adaption of a stageplay), but showing someone poisoning the coffee without revealing WHO has done it, would be very difficult for the scene.

The movie/play is about ratcheting up the tension between all the characters. By the time we get to that chapter, we've likely decided in our heads who the secret bad guy is(right or wrong). We've begun to suspect at least one of the characters. By distracting us with the previous scene involving a black man's dingus, it provides the opportunity for us to miss details. Having the camera focus in on the coffee while some "unknown hand" poisons it won't work in a play, and if done here, it destroys the tension built during the black dingus story by distracting the audience. The dingus is unsettling for a reason, and the faux-calm that follows is there for a reason. We're supposed to relax after a climactic scene like the shooting of the old confederate general, and we're expecting to relax for a moment when the chapter ends. But we're denied that by being given the knowledge that the coffee's been poisoned and several characters might drink it. During the song we KNOW the bad thing HAS happened and we're waiting for the consequences. When they come, their so...bad it serves as another climax that is in itself fucking unsettling.
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DUDE KEKOLDING LMAO
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>>64879335
just show the fingertips of the hand and the stuff being poured in

if you can guess who did it based just on fingertips you deserve to know
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>>64879372
That's not the point. Showing the fingertips IMMEDIATELY takes the audience away from the fucked up story being told. It essentially destroys the tension in the scene just so you don't have to hear a voice over.
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>>64879428
the fucked up story wasn't even that interesting. was obviously padding
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>>64879467
god you fucking suck just give up dicklord jesus christ
it's pathetic that guy is even bothering to educate you and you still don't get it
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>>64879335
>showing someone poisoning the coffee without revealing WHO has done it, would be very difficult for the scene.

Did you not see the movie? Exactly this happened.
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>>64863225
Literally nothing. The film was perfect. The only character that was replaceable was Bob.
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>>64863454
>>64878010
Same for Gauge and Hiccox (who is supposed to be the great grandfather of Fassbender from IB).

I also think the brutality of the executions was really effective at giving the audience a clear understanding of the type of men these all were
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>assume the movie is going to be a descent into madness as these eight extreme and conflicting personalities are forced together into this tight, controlled environment
>SOMEONE POISONED THE COFFEE LMAO

movie was great up until that point desu. The WARM BLACK DINGUS scene was a bit much but I choose to interpret it as Warren telling a bullshit story just to make the General mad
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>>64879925
he means for a stage production.

In reality, it was obvious that it was one of two people right away for me.

The first was OB. The second was Joe Gauge. These are the only two characters that are not directly accounted for in that scene. Chris is standing up cursing at Warren, Hiccox is next to him, John and Daisy are on the opposite side of the table. Bob is at the piano.

OB and JG are not accounted for, but you know that it wasn't OB who poisoned the coffee because he drank the shit.

Viola, its Joe Gauge and if you go back and watch the scene with the frame I'm giving you it's obvious who did it right away
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>>64866315
>Make shitty movie
>"B-but his tastes are shit"

Besides the point.
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>>64880144
Bingo. Ostensibly, the story is fucked up to unnerve the general, and as clever movie goers we know it's just there to be edgy, but it's really there so we focus on it and don't pay attention to who is actually in the scene.
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>DUDE 70MM FILM LMAO
>a couple of long establishment shots here and there
>rest of the fucking movie takes place in a shitty cabin
>MUH BLACK DINGUS

CM8 are cucks, they fucking apologized for leaking the movie early. It's fucking trash. Fucking wish someone leaked a workprint earlier of this pile of vomit of a film so I could shout from the rooftops how shit this movie is earlier. Fuck this shit.
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> Nine people are in the cabin
>Film is called "The hateful eight"

BRAVO
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>>64880705
Only Eight MEN. Womyn can't be hateful. Check your privilege, cis scum.
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>>64880837
Except she wasn't the exception, the driver was.
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The entire premise for the movie is convoluted as hell.

As soon as they realized it was more than 1 guy they should've started shooting.
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>>64863454

this riiiiiighhhhhhht here

remove chapter four and make at least one more of the "badguys" non badguys and instead someone with an interesting motive or something clever

the movie was perfectly set up for some smart and sneaky clever shit with all that buildup and then it just turned into meh everyone is bad and heres some silly pointless scenes about how they killed everyone to get set up at minnies

its so damn close to being amazing
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His next film will be better, pic related.
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he is a cuckold, that is what is wrong here

what makes him hate himself so much? is it purely because of freudian reasons? his white dad left his mom, and his mom got 'revenge' by acting out by dating negros for whatever reason, and quentin watched it all as a child. he wants to be the black guy.

but is there anything else to it?
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>>64881354
you sound a little angered
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Awful flick. Tarantino desperately needs a film editor. The pacing on this thing was atrocious and totally put me off..
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>>64881392

hello, reddit
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The Hateful Eight is what happens when Tarantino gets too self-indulgent. It so happens that the Academy doesn't like Tarantino enough to enjoy his personality showing through in a film, but many people do.

Just think about it, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Inglorious Basterds were really story-driven, you wanted to know how that clusterfuck would resolve itself. The Hateful Eight is character and style-driven because the story in itself isn't that surprising. Instead, as soon as the first four characters meet in the wagon you know shit is gonna happen and the tension keeps you going, using nigger liberally and the cynicism of the characters makes it interesting.

When I was watching it I was thinking simultaneously "wow this is really long and drawn out, I don't know if it works so well" and then dingus and shit started coming down. I left feeling like it all meant something. I really fucking love it, one of his best work.
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>>64881577
>reddit boogyman
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>>64879335
The fact that he used the best instrument available to execute that scene doesn't excuse the poor storytelling that made him arrive at such decision. The narration, particularly the Domergue's Got a Secret bit was one of the most heavy-handed uses of exposition in recent memory. Some stories aren't meant to be told. Maybe he should have discarded this script after it leaked.
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>>64863335
Too bad my local dub killed it scene by unfunny translation. I didnt get my BIG BLACK DINGUS expirience
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>>64881970
cancer
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>it's a "quentin fanboys do mental gymnastics to defend another one of his failed flicks" episode
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Tarantino's narration was horrible -- thats the part that pissed me off. Like he couldn't call up Harvey Keitel or some shit to read lines?
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he is a literal white guilt cuck. he admitted to fapping to the sound of his mom getting rekt by her bbc bf.
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>>64863391
Literally kill yourself
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>>64880705
10 if you count channing tatyum and the coach driver
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Tarantinos lost it. He peaked at Basterds.
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BIG BLACK DINGUS
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>>64884182
>he peaked about a movie about the holohoax
literally kill yourself mate.
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ASK ME IF MA ASS IS LE FAT XD
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>>64881923

Ahoy Reddit! Clamber aboard ye yellow-bellied bugger ahar!
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>>64863225
It stopped show in film where I live, should I even bother to watch it now? I'm bretty upset
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>>64863225

DISNEY SCREWED HIM OVER!
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>>64863454
Yep. Exactly.
It was a clunky scene, that was probably put after the intermission as the 'flow' of the movie had already been broken.
But seriously, if I was in film school, and submitted a movie where I had narrated the start of one scene to explain what was going on, I'd fail and get laughed at.
Tarantino obviously didn't go to film school though.
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>>64886548
you don't need to go to film school to realize how clunky that shit was
you only need a functional brain
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>>64870682
He didn't say that, lazy faggot.
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