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is she right?
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>>64711253
>But when you say hmm I think this character is gay
Top kek, she's one of those slashfic writers that thinks Poe wants to suck Finn's big black cock.
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>>64711253
>2001
>Not making sense
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>>64711253
>which makes absolutely NO SENSE unless you watch it like eight times
How can someone be this stupid? After watching 2001 once you should be able to come up with a simple theory as to what it means.
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We already uncovered the meaning.
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>>64711437
Go on then.
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>2001 requires 8 viewings to understand

Do you think people are actually getting dumber or do people just not bother to think anymore?
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>>64711540
it's easier to think about LGBT propaganda than art
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>>64711253
that's literally /tv/: the post
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>>64711536
Aliens have decided it's time for humanity to evolve further. At the end David is reborn as the next evolutionary step for man.
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>>64711253
I've never wanted to drop a bitch so much over an internet comment..
fuck i don't even know why im so mad

Im not even a massive kubrick fan
fuck
Seriously
FUCK
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>>64711253
Pretty good as far as making a post specifically to trigger /tv/ but I really don't have the energy to even get irritated by this stuff anymore.
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>>64711521
>movie starts with chimps groping the vagina
BLACKED
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More like Kuckbrick amirite?
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>hmm I think this character is gay
Who's she talking about, HAL?
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>>64711521
damn...
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>>64712053
the monolith is black too....... thats just reg chimp sex
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>>64712194
Floyd was married shortly before 2001, Bowman visits his old girlfriend in 2010, and Poole gets married in 3001.

So she must be talking about HAL.
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>>64711253
Yes.
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>>64711662
i watched this movie once and i came to the same conclusion.. are people really this stupid that they cant understand the movie?
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>>64712226
So Dave has jungle fever?
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>>64711662
yup, makes no sense still
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>makes absolutely no sense unless you watch it like eight times

What?
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>>64711253

There's a difference between reading too much into something and reading too much into nothing.
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>>64711253

Actually, to be fair, I've always thought that there were homosexual undertones in parts of 2001 that people don't talk about.

The part where the two crewman are retiring into their pods, after the one goes in, the other's body motion and expression seems to imply a longing.
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>>64712310
Yes it does.
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>>64712273

lol this nigga

There were undertones between the men, "straight" married men can and do have gay sex when isolated long-term.
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>>64712352
no
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>>64711253
any "normie" will agree

i must be normie too because i pretty much agree with this
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>>64712386
Luke Skywalker is gay.
Harry Potter is gay.
Conan the Barbarian is gay.

None explicitly state they aren't gay, ergo they are.
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>>64711253
not in the slightest and sounds like she should be grounded and her social media privileges taken.
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>>64712482
>not in the slightest
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>>64712430

I didn't get any of those out of their respective films. In 2001, I think at least one of the two guys might have been prison-gay, even they never did anything.

I'm as right wing as you are, but you're letting it get in the way of serious film analysis.
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>>64712535
If HAL fell in love with you but you reprogrammed him with a female voice, would that still be gay?
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Post 2001.
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>>64711253
Generally speaking angrily loud lesbian weeboo bernie supporters should be ignored.
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>2001
>Man discovers an alien monolith
>sends sign across solar system to jupiter moon
>early human ancestor first discovers the usage of tools, acting as a catalyst that sets in motion the development of civilization
>astronauts send to investigate
>onboard AI goes rogue and kills all on board save for one
>weird, avant garde sequence follows essentially from the perspective of dave trying to comprehend his forced evolution into the next step of humanity
>reborn as the star child

The fuck is there not to get? It's an extremely intelligent film but it is not avant-garde cinema. I could see people maybe struggling to understand the bedroom sequence at first (basically each film cut introduces himself to a new stage of his life) but beyond that how could you not follow it?

Fuck me, why do people think that dialogue is a necessity for visual story telling? The film shows you everything you need to know
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imo HAL was meant to be a multigendered transgender and possibly a furryfag
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>>64711253

>Is she right?

Well, she's not wrong.
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>>64711253
alright*
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>>64711521

That's actually correct.

S. Kubrick here.
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>>64711253
>Symbolism

There is literally no symbolism in 2001 apart from the unconfirmed HAL = IBM theory (and arguably the ageing scene). The truth is 2001 is a pretty straightforward film. I hate when people watch movies that don't hold your hand immediately assume they are trying to be 2deep4u or whatever. The beauty of 2001 is how much it says despite actually being a super simple straight story.
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>>64712660

It's even better if you read the books and let Uncle "Don't Touch Me There I'm Begging You Mr Clarke" Clarke explain it in bullet points for you.
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>>64711662
So it's animu garbage, got it
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>>64712733

At least it's not a David Lynch film. Listening to people "explain" those is like having to sit next to someone who insists on pointing at clouds and explaining what they look like.
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>>64712728
Hi Stanley! Let me just say, well done on your expansive film career, you've achieved so much and I'm a huge fan.
What sort of film would you like to make n the future?
And what's it like working with Tom Cruise?
Thanks in advance man, you're awesome!

edit: Wow! I never expected so many upvotes! Thanks guys
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I don't think this person has actually seen 2001. It's an incredibly popular movie, people who have seen it understand it just fine.
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>>64711253
Once again fags prove that their only defining characteristic is their sexuality and they have low IQs
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>>64712728
Back to reddit, Stanley.
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>>64712430
>Conan
>"hurrr he's overtly masculinr clearly there is a homoerotic subtext durrr"

Why do people do this? I feel like there is a distinction between enjoying portrayls of masculinity and wanting to have sex with a masculine figure. I never understand this accusation of masculine things being "homoerotic". Like I've heard it directed at the military for instance, that soldiers are all embracing some kind of undercurrent sexually charged male behaviour with each other without realising it. I'm pretty sure that is just friendship and a sense of espirit de corps not that they all want to secretly fuck each other

I am not homophobic, have no reservations toward homosexuality, and I'd own it if I were gay but I'm not. Thinking of naked men does nothing for me, I don't have any kind of sexual stimulation right now thinking about it. I want to be Conan, not fuck him
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That's a gross exaggeration of how complex 2001 is. It also fails to consider that some films are meant to be heavily analyzed and clearly have lots of pieces for you to look into, while others have next to no subtext and can be fully understood on the first viewing.

You can easily read too far into a simple movie while reading not far enough into a complex movie with the same level of analysis. It's often easy to see how far the writers and/or directors of a movie want you to look into it.
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>>64712869
Every other post on her facebook page is "GAY!" or the equivalent - basically she's feeling btfo because someone made fun of her "I assume everyone is gay in movies" crap.
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>>64712812
It came out decades before shit like that became an animu cliche, you retard.
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>>64711521
Shieeeeeeet
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>>64712983
She's too stupid to understand the symbolism in 2001 and is butthurt that she can't claim people who aren't a part of her orientation.

Pretty pathetic on her part.
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>>64712931
I think it happened in the seventies and eighties when the gay community decided to take everything stereotypically masculine and own it in a gay way.
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>>64712733
This, it's a very intelligent film but there isn't a lot of 2deep4u subtext in it. The last 30 minutes are literally Dave trying to comprehend himself being forced to evolve within a single life time.
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>>64712733
>apart from the unconfirmed HAL = IBM theory
HAL singing Daisy Bell is pretty damning evidence of this.
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>>64711253
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>>64713160
Also the fact that IBM is reflected onto Dave's helmet.
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2001:A Space Odyssey is quite simply the worst thing to happen to cinema ever. Its forced profundity has caused millions of people all over the world to force themselves to like what is quite simply nothing more than an exercise in style.

Kubrick has no idea what he is doing here. His film jumps around with little to no sense of unity. The great film makers of the world create a series of events that contain clarity of information, something Kubrick couldn't bet his life on.

What is the purpose of what is going on here? Is there any coherent message? I have heard suggestions that it is Kubrick's message about the future of humanity, but what future is that? Does Kubrick even know?

This is Transformers for the art house crowd. Pure style over substance. Nobody actually likes this film, they just like to be seen liking it.
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>>64713183
Oh lord my blood pressure
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>>64713237
Hi Confused Matthew.
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>>64712911
I,m a big fan of Stanley Kubrick!

I own the Stanley Kubrick: Masterpiece Collection.
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>>64713237
>Kubrick has no idea what he is doing here.
Yeah, it can't possibly be you're an idiot that didn't understand the film.
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>>64713232
Yeah. And just in case people don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk
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>>64713160
>>64713232
Also HAL is formed by going back one letter in the abecedary from IBM
It's really likely that this is true, but both Clarke and Kubrick denied this. Probably they were afraid of being sued, idk.
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>2 and a half hour movie
>40 minutes of dialogue
>full of symbolism and deeper meaning that begs to be analyzed

And then the other one is essentially a Marvel movie that is as surface level as it gets
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>>64712053
more realistically, chimps are "immature" as a sentient species, reflecting dumb teenage shit like spin the bottle or 60 secs in the closet.
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Nope
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This woman is a living meme.
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>>64713809
well couldn't you jsut decide that any random video game character is gay? at least according to her own logic. pacman could be gay if you want
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>>64712352
evolutionary happens naturally through time, not by design.
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>>64711521
Goddamnit it was a BAROQUE room you dumb faggot,.
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>>64711253

>expecting me to read on /tv/
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>>64713809
So she's a hag, got it
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>>64713878
Did you not watch the movie? At the very beginning it's established that aliens started human evolution.
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>>64711521
It's retarded. The same retards also say Shining was about the faked Moon landing
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Kubrick is complete shit. He's plebcore that wanabes think is patrician because it's likely the first director they become exposed to that dabbles slightly out the box.

Kubrick was a walking shithouse who did his eras version of Hostel/goreporn.

2001 is his only "good" movie but in terms of actual quality it's a 4/10 at best.
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>>64714038
>look mum! look how contrarian I'm being!
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>>64713297
>I own the Stanley Kubrick: Masterpiece Collection

Me too bro, on Blu Ray
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>>64714234
Amen Brother.
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>>64714038
>Kubrick was a walking shithouse who did his eras version of Hostel/goreporn.
You sound like a retard that has only watched two or three Kubrick films. A Clockwork Orange is his only film that could be compared to goreporn. His first three films are film noir, Spartacus is a historical epic, Lolita and Dr. Strangelove are comedies, Barry Lyndon is a period piece, The Shining is a horror film but it relies on psychological horror instead of gore, Full Metal Jacket is a war film, Eyes Wide Shut is a subversion of erotic thrillers. How are those films goreporn?
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>>64713237
Was than an Armond White review?
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>>64714600
I think he's quoting Confused Matthew.
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>>64714626
cheers bro
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>>64711253
>didn't understand 2001
>gets mad at people for trying to understand the cause for an event, but thinks that making up new facts is okay
around off-colored hair, beware
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>>64714600
>>64714626
>>64714664537
It isn't Confused Matthew or Armond White.

https://letterboxd.com/cinebro/film/2001-a-space-odyssey/
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>>64714626
Why are there so many of you newshits here? Fucking star wars cancer
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>>64713237
take your meds on time, anon
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>>64714846
>star wars
>bad
spotted the contrarian
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>>64714846
I'm not a newshit or a Star Warsshit. I just normally don't browse 2001 threads so I didn't know that post is old pasta.
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>>64711253
>I think thi character is gay
what is the point of this utterly useless assumption. I'm not saying characters are straight by default but if his sexually never comes up, they probably didnt bother to think of him as gay since it affects absolutely nothing unless it's some obvious token faggot
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>>64711253
HEY GUYS IM GAY... DID ANYONE HEAR ME? IM GAY!

GUYS LISTEN TO ME, PLEASE APPRECIATE MY DAILY POSTING THAT 5 OF MY FRIENDS CARE ABOUT
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JUST
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>>64714473
>lolita is a comedy

you are a sick pedo
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>>64715556
How am I a pedo?
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>>64715717
can you not read greentext?
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>>64712781
Just to note, 2001 was conceived as both a novel and a film. Neither is based off of the other.

I wish there were more truly multimedia stories in that model.
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>>64712931
Women are more open to bisexuality so they assume that men are too.
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>OK HERE'S SOMETHING THAT PISSES ME OFF
Immediately I know not to continue reading.
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>>64715890
But Lolita is very clearly a comedy.
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>>64716009
Then thats pretty worrying
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bump for pleb hate
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>>64713183
Stop it please oh god my triggers
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>>64713183
>loyalty is just closeted homosexuals expressing their homoeroticism
liberalism literally corrodes humanity
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>>64715327
FUCK
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>>64714038

If Kubrick is shit

What is good
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>>64718359
BAYHEM
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>>64711253
>insecure post because she didn't get the movie

She's wrong.
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i'm going to send her a polite facebook message
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>>64718900
Post screencap plz
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>>64711253
>women
>Ever being right
I'm depressed and want to kill myself everyday
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>>64713566
Yeah dude but you missed the point. He said BLACKED
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>>64719016
how deed i do?
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>>64711253
>get bent
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>>64719482
A lot nicer than I expected
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>>64711253
>these are the subhumans that defend TFA and call it's detractors "contrarians" and "virgin neckbeards"
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>>64711253
Twitter screencaps aren't /tv/
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>>64719482

>the source of your attitude

kek'd
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>>64719943
>>64720588
no responses so far, worried the thread will 404 before i get one
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>>64711253
green hair and ham beast. They should all be killed.
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>>64711521
Renaissance isn't Italian. It's French.
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>>64721854
She needs to be hit by a bus for her taste in pizza alone
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>>64711662
This.
People just get confused because it's nonlinear and haven't been exposed to much si-fi
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