they're godawful but not as bad as the prequels. the prequels are "this movie is shit and has destroyed the franchse, i will rip these movies apart for the rest of my life" bad. the hobbit is "these movies are shit, but lotr isn't ruined and tolkein's work remains unaltereed. i'm going to never watch these again and forget about them" bad.
>>64705578 The prequels were hugely anticipated and were a major letdown. Nobody was dying to see the Hobbit and most people were expecting it to be lousy once they knew it was going to be split up among three movies.
The prequels also just had a lousy story overall. Unless you completely reboot it or whatever, there's no way to "fix" E1-3. The Hobbit, however, is a fine story and somebody could still try re-adapting it properly.
>>64705578 I'm guessing because the hardcore fans of the Lord of the Rings have never been hardcore fans of The Hobbit and the fans of The Hobbit are not as cancerous as the Star Wars fandom.
The SW prequels had a lot of people trying to like them real hard and pretending to do so, but everyone that likes The Hobbit generally agrees that The Hobbit movies are a missed opportunity and overall shit.
When I heard Peter Jackson was gonna do The Hobbit as 2 movies, I thought "that sounds about right". Never been a fan of LoTR books but I love TH so I was hyped. Then they said 3 movies and I immediately knew it was gonna be shit. Anyone who read the book knew it couldn't be spread throughout 3 movies, so there's no disappointment factor like with SW prequels either.
I'm honestly more angry at the blown opportunity of having 1 or 2 good hobbit movies by a director that proved before that he can do it rather than this shitshow, but I will never get Plinkett levels of angry at it.
>>64705846 How old are you? People were losing their shit for the Hobbit. There were anons who travelled to New Zealand to see it and 'I'd kill today but I'm waiting for The Hobbit' where regular threads since at the latest 2009.
>>64705578 Couple of reasons, in no particular order:
1) The Star Wars prequels, while awful, were really, really memorable; the endless memes on /tv/ prove that they're all burned in our brains forever. The Hobbit movies were just bland and forgettable, and it's hard to recall individual scenes.
2) The cinematic Middle Earth universe is an adaptation and not the original, so fans aren't as reliant on the quality of the films to "carry" the fanbase because they're always secondary. The Hobbit movies being garbage doesn't in any way taint the overall quality of Middle Earth because Middle Earth is literary first and foremost.
3) Middle Earth fans are less central to contemporary internet pop culture than Star Wars fans, so their gripes don't get blasted around as much.
>>64706122 How old are you? People went absolutely nuts in the time building up to the release of the prequels. Sure some people were excited to see The Hobbit, but it pales in comparison to the fervor over Episode 1.
>LOTR movies are seen as icing on the cake to a timeless book series >Hobbit is a story that's easy to get into already so need for movies >dozens of wiki's helped bring Middle Earth lore to the fore front of peoples minds before the hobbit films >all the problems jackson had through production help us better understand why the movies were so awful, doesn't stop them from being awful though.
>The prequels were new original ideas in this awesome series from the man himself >the prequels are made completely from stuff that didnt make the originals so great >every character big or small in the originals are ruined forever because of their shitty origins >vader ruined being the worst of all >nothing is real >not good movies let alone star wars movies
>>64705578 Because people pretend that The Hobbit Movies were not meant so seriously and that they're just supposed to be comfy films and basically they lie to themselves so they don't need to realize what is the truth, hating the prequels is solely based on redditors opinions and manchildren.
>>64706648 >>every character big or small in the originals are ruined forever because of their shitty origins Characters who appeared in the prequels and originals >Yoda >Chewbacca >Obi-Wan >Anakin >Sheev >R2D2 >C3PO The only character ruined in the prequels out of all of those is literally just 3PO. But 3PO was always a Jar Jar tier character so nothing of value was lost.
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