>>64701932 How else is an empire supposed to function on a galactic scale? Governors are necessary tools for real life empires on Earth, and those are made up of regions separated by land and sea - imagine being separated by space.
>>64701932 >implying that means the Empire is decentralized
The power structure changed; the senate was abolished and the regional military governors, who are directly under the Emperor's command, were formally put in charge of their respective territories. If anything, the Imperial government became more centralized.
>>64702046 >Every governor does what he wants >All the planets in the OT (Tatooine, Bespin) are lawless self-ruled places without any Stormtrooper garrison even if they are Imperial territories >Most likely because local Jabbas payed off the governors >That fact allows the rebels to escape erry time >More centralized
and each Governor now has the threat of the Death Star to keep rebellion down more world building and careful thought put into these films than people want to give them credit for, even though they are just fantasy pulp certainly more thought than a remake of an old movie fucking tracers
The governors are military governors, the Emperor is the supreme commander of the imperial military; hence, the Emperor centralized his power by eliminating the legal decentralization of the Senate and replacing it with a smaller cadre of diehard military loyalists that are UNDER HIS DIRECT COMMAND.
Those planets are backwaters on the fringes of the Empire, and Hutt Space is a thing because the Empire doesn't really need to divert resources to police these places. Seriously, it's like you don't even know what the word "decentralization" means.
All empires have governors. Because an empire tends to form from the land being far too big to be ruled by other means (see: arguments for why the Roman Republic had to become an Empire).
Thus governors are necessary to control individual massive territories. What tends to happen is that they use enough money produced from their zone needed to fund said zone and then add all other profits to a centralised 'treasury' which is handled by the central government.
Without micro-control over an empire, rebellions are successful ever more so and the empire is shitly run
Governors are appointed by the Emperor. There is no democracy and each governor does the Emperor's bidding (or they will be replaced) All Empires are the same when they get too big. No-one can oversee every place on a day to day basis.
>>64702851 >Which makes me wonder how the Empire managed to keep control after the Death Star was destroyed.
The Death Star had a firepower equivalent to "half the star fleet". It's loss was a blow for sure, but the Empire was doing well keeping control with just the fleet for 20+ years. I'd imagine a Star Destroyer had enough firepower on it's own to glass entire cities.
>Before the arrival of the Empire, Bestine was primarily a farming and mining community. But following the rise of the Empire, Bestine became the seat of Imperial power on Tatooine. As a result, it was considered to be the most cosmopolitan and cultured settlement on Tatooine. It was, in many ways, considered to be a, "gem of Imperial politics." Due largely to the influx of Imperial personnel and their credits, Bestine flourished while other cities on Tatooine struggled. Bestine was once a modest agrarian township, but had since grown to become a thriving economic hub. Bestine attracted a large number of honest merchants, interested in doing legitimate business. Bestine was also considered to be the safest of all cities on Tatooine. Imperial stormtroopers would patrol the streets, defending citizens from thugs and random Tusken Raider attacks. While the city was considered very safe, it still was not completely devoid of thugs populating the slums of Bestine.
This. Bespin was independent from the empire and had its own military and everything, then the Empire finds out about it, marches its military in and just says "do what we want or we will kill everyone" and then they are part of then thats it, they are part of the empire
>>64703124 Im talking about the part where Vader talks to obi and says "when I left you I was a learner but now I am the master. obi goes :only master of evil darth" etc but Vader does not have a title of master
But Tatooine DOES have stormtrooper garrisons. Remember Mos Eisley? And Bespin was outside the control of the Empire because Lando actively tried really hard to keep it that way, but once he crossed paths with Han and co, he sold Cloud City out to Vader.
>galaxy is at war! >republic vs. separatists >hundred of thousands of worlds engulfed >the republic army is made of 1.2 million clones >coruscant, capital of the republic, has 100 billion inhabitants alone Who ever thought of that shit
>>64703614 Actually most of the military loved him. He was beloved by the soldiers for fighting alongside them and for blaming officers, not them when shit went bad....of course this meant that officers were less than pleased with him but still, he had the backing of most of the military.
>>64703576 >>the republic army is made of 1.2 million clones says who? >>64703585 he feared more rebellion if he just told everyone to shut the fuck up and obey.when the death star was complete the last shadow of that fear died
The Catholic Church is the greatest protection racket ever invented. If you don't pay up God will damn you for eternity. There is no greater threat and no greater leverage than God's wrath. It's the perfect racket.
Story should have been the republic vs another confederacy of independent systems fighting over boarder systems between them.
The Republic has no official military, just the militaries of each system band together and for whatever reason, Currosant system has no military even though its population makes up like a 1/4th of the entire republic and The independent confederacy (IC) have a much smaller military.
So the IC starts cloning monsters and shit and start kicking the republics ass and taking more and more systems. So then this guy Sheev comes along and uses his charisma to reach the top and finally convince them to do away with the "no courrosant military" and makes the largest military the republic has ever seen. Then he starts winning battle after battle, then he just keeps going and taking systems in the enemy territory the republic never had. Then when people in the republic complain he says "deal with it fag, I own the most powerful military ever, what are you going to do?"
And then, he finally takes the entire galaxy pretty much. Also, all this time the jedis are oppsoed to war and try to seek peacfull ends, but Sheev is shitting on them in politics and people are already kind of tired of their spiritual bullshit until he finally gets enough power to just holocaust them all.
So how oppressive was the Empire within movie continuity? Did they place crippling taxes on the people? It's obvious that they did censorship, but so long as people live prosperously with their creature comforts, they're not as inclined to rebel. Especially if the Empire isn't too heavy-handed and actually instills law & order for communities.
>>64705119 >So how oppressive was the Empire within movie continuity?
they blew up a planet, killing probably billions of innocent people just to prove a point. They didnt even really plan it either, they just got a new weapon and were like "wait, isnt that prisoner we have from this planet?"
Also, they were ruled over by a monster that jerked off to the devil
>>64705439 >It was also kind of interesting because the way people would become pilots for the rebellion was to join the empire, get trained, and then run away Yeah I remember that line about the Academy.
Wouldn't alarm bells go off if a Luke Skywalker from Tattoine was a cadet? Because surely that would come across Darth's attention.
>>64705119 >Did they place crippling taxes on the people? Palpatine did a version of this back before the rise of the Empire just to get himself the seat of Supreme Chancellor, so once he was in power he probably pulled all kinds of stunts. And in the Special Edition scenes of Coruscant, Tatooine, etc. at the end of RotJ, we see people celebrating and pulling down Imperial statues. So public opinion was probably mixed.
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