>>64688881 I wanna hunt you down and beat you with a metal pipe you fucking unfunny meme forcing sack of shit. but then again I remember how hollow and empty your life is. so ill just let natural selection weed you out as no woman will ever touch you.
>>64688834 Because nobody with a brain does this. When you dedicate your life to a cause, you don't act on impulse. Revealing the truth would jeopardize everything, so it had to be a thought out decision.
>>64688922 looked to be more pure shock that Big Poppa Palpatine was giving the order to kill him so easily with a no fucks given look on his face.
Also even had he managed to tell Anakin it would have just ment Sheev would had to handle a dearmed Dooku, knocked out Obiwan, and Anakin and make up a story about how the jedi stayed back to give him time to escape
Because Dooku's spent fully three years trying to make the truth sound like an obvious lie, from the moment he told Obi-Wan the truth on Geonosis in Attack of the Clones. Obi-Wan didn't believe him, because Dooku deliberately made it sound incredible.
He knows, better than anyone else in that room, that nobody would believe the truth if he told it to them. He's trapped in his own web of lies.
Of course he knows Sheev is a Sith Lord, that's why he looks at him so incredulously there. That expression is screaming "THIS WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN YOU FUCK". But there is absolutely nothing he can say or do right now that will save him, and he knows it.
Maul may have only met him in his "Sidious" persona, and Palpatine wasn't exactly a big deal senator before the Naboo crisis.
Maul wouldn't have a whole lot of reason to have heard of Sheev Palpatine, even if he was intimately familiar with Darth Sidious. If he has any idea who Palpatine is, he definitely knows they're the same person, but maybe he's not really up on politics.
Dooku DEFINITELY knows Sheev is Palpatine. Once he became Chancellor, Palpatine became a huge fucking deal. Dooku knows Sidious, he has personal face-to-face meetings with him, he has everything he needs to put two and two together.
Nute Gunray doesn't have that luxury, since he doesn't seem to have encountered Sheev Palpatine personally at any point, and also seems to have only spoken to Darth Sidious via hologram. His meetings with Sidious have been carefully controlled to disguise Sidious.
>>64688834 > cause sheev told Dooku the same old shtick he told all his apprentices about Darth trenebaus becoming immortal. Dooku probably thought getting decapitated=life. It's not so far fetched when you know that crime is a stupid profession.
>>64692366 I do remember a comic coming out that established that Palpatine through Maul pretty much had dirt put onto Valorum to make him seem like a corrupt incompetent fuck before he got the ball rolling with the Naboo shit.
Also remember something about having Valorum killed sometime afterward after he started trying to dig up dirt on Sheev
Palpatine pretended to be basically non-threatening but good-hearted during the Naboo crisis.
Near as I can figure out from the movie, the actual plan was that the invasion would succeed, and by the time communications were restored, the treaty would be signed, so basically Naboo shows up to the Senate with two black eyes and several missing teeth, but because of the treaty it's forced to claim it "fell down the space stairs".
It's obvious what really happened, but the Senate can't do anything because hey, treaty. Sheev denounces Valorum for his failure to act, someone (maybe Sheev, but more likely someone he buys off) moves for a vote of no confidence, Sheev gets swept in on a sympathy vote and becomes Chancellor.
While all of this voting is happening, the Trade Federation gets off scot-free, then they park their fleet next to another planet in another perfectly legal blockade, implicitly threatening to figuratively kill yet another hostage. Sheev greases the right palms to make sure the taxation laws are changed to suit the Trade Federation's demands -- we don't know the specifics, but the crawl certainly says they have demands re: taxes -- and so everyone gets what they want.
But instead of doing nothing, Valorum secretly (as the crawl says) sent two Jedi to force the Trade Federation to back the fuck off. Couldn't do it openly, because the Senate would just lump that shit into the debates too, and then NOTHING would get done.
Since it was secret -- which Sidious would know, being as he is a Senator and knowing Valorum never said anything about sending Jedi -- Sidious says "oh fuck, kill them and get the rest of the plan done ASAP". They can clean the hangar -- they have a whole army of droids that will do anything they say, just bust out some fucking mops. One ship carrying two Jedi disappears mysteriously and no evidence is left to implicate them.
>>64692436 >Sheev had a lifetime best friend who he had known as a Jedi Knight, and who was now a Jedi Master >Friend suggests checking the midichlorian levels of everyone in the senate, asking Sheev to get the ball rolling by getting tested first >Sheev has the guy blasted to bits by CIS
Han borrowed 50k from the Guavian Death Gang for this rathar job.
He also borrowed 50k from Kanjiklub for the same job.
Why do they want to collect on the investment all of a sudden? Fuck if I know, especially since the job's not even done yet but is still entirely on track to be successful. Their interference is the only reason anything goes wrong.
And why are the Guavians apparently so offended that Han also borrowed money from Kanjiklub that they'll attack him, yet still willing to politely invite Kanjiklub along for the ride and carefully time their boardings for maximum dramatic effect?
Once TFA leaves Jakku for good, it just stops making sense entirely.
>>64692486 At least before Disney got the IP and rendered mostly everything old canon, There were multiple times Vader tried to plot behind his back and usurp the throne just to have Sheev come out and say you cyborg fuck I've known all along then Vader has to say he was only pretending to plotting to kill him to lure out all his enemies.
Choose the Force. Choose a Master. Choose the Light Side. Choose the Council. Choose a fucking big lightsaber. Choose protocol droids, holoprojectors, and R2 units. Choose Naboo, Tatooine and Coruscant. Choose fixed-interest credit payments to the Hutts. Choose a Corellian freighter that did the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs. Choose a Wookiee. Choose sitting in Jabba's throne room, watching mind-numbing dancers, stuffing green chubas into your mouth. Choose turning into a blue ghost at the end of it all, disappearing into thin air, nothing more than an embarrassment to the whiny kid you trained on the way to Alderaan.
Choose your destiny. Choose the Force.
But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose the Dark Side. I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got the high ground?
He has no money BECAUSE THE JOB'S NOT DONE YET. You'd think they'd at least wait for that, so they would have some money to fight over instead of just Han's worthless corpse.
They also each say he's failed to deliver on what he owed them before.
Why the fuck would they lend money to him again if he's so untrustworthy that they're willing to interrupt the job they've invested money in to demand repayment IMMEDIATELY?
We're never given a reason to think that the job will go south, and indeed the only reason it does is because the gangs attacked and Rey tried to space them and hit the wrong fuses. It's not like they don't know what he's hauling, either; they know the job, and aren't surprised in the least when Han says "you think hunting rathtars is cheap?" You go after him once he's offloaded the rathtars and has whatever payment he's gotten from King Prana, because until then, he's got no money to fight over and a bunch of rathtars he could throw at you.
I guess he was in shock since it's usually the apprentice that tries to kill the master. But it doesn't really make any difference, Sheev was like a father to Anakin, he would have never believed something so ridiculous at that point
>>64689978 He says some senators are being influenced, not that the Supreme Chancellor is the one doing it. Look at modern politics, loads of officials are bought and paid for behind the scenes, but that doesn't mean Obama is the one writing the checks.
>>64693835 I'm not that much of a movie buff, I just wanted to give McGregor credit for playing a role despite nearly everything around him being total shit. I'm glad to see that I'm not argued against about it. I really just love the character of Obi-Wan and was really happy with how McGregor filled the role. Anyway, someone who's not Lucas. Quentin Tarentino :^)
>>64694075 >McGregor is loved here.. perfect casts even. That's pretty fucking rad, anon. I just dropped by to see Revenant threads but I'm glad to see he is liked on /tv/, aka: where it matters. I'd honestly love a movie or show or something about the twenty years he disappeared. I don't think Obi-Wan's character could sit around completely uselessly for 20 years, there had to be something interesting there. Nolan would be great. >or perhaps Dooku wonders why Sheev would betray a man before creating a new apprentice. Bravo
>>64694190 >I'd honestly love a movie or show or something about the twenty years he disappeared It's all but confirmed, it seems they are talking to McGregor, some anons posted some news this week, you might find the threads in the archive.
Don't know if they'll follow the book though, I expect they won't.
>>64688834 Plebs don't realize that dooku doesn't know palpatine=sidious, neither do the rest of the CIS. In AOTC he says he believes sidious simply controls/influences the senate, he's not aware of his true identity
>>64694499 In the Episode 3 novelization (that Lucas helped work on and approved of) has a segment in which Dooku reflects on his and Sidious' plans and schemes up until the battle above Coruscant, and the end of that chapter has him look at a "captured" Palpatine, calling him "master". Even if that book itself is not canon it's safe to assume that Dooku knows given the fact that Lucas wouldn't have approved it in the first place if it wasn't true.
>>64694585 Wrong, he says "hundreds of senators are now under the influence of a dark lord of the sith" not "the chancellor is a dark lord of the sith". Chancellors don't control senates any more than presidents do.
There's no evidence that dooku was anything more than a tool. Do you think sidious told maul he was a senator? Sheev gained nothing from telling either senator his true identity
As a mafia, you win no matter if you are alive or not as long as your team survive in the end. Using one of your own as a decoy of making sure that the rest think that you are a hero is a common tactic. Basically Dooku and Sheev wanted for Sith to rule and Dooku sacfiriced himself.
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