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>practical effects of the prequels
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>>64659502
I'm very surprised that that's an actual set
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>>64659372
|I'm pretty sure something like this is a maquette used as reference for CG artists rather than something that was actually shot in the movie
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was the sheevspin a practical effects anon?
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Watch some of the weta BTS.
What they did was spending enormous amount of time on practical effects. Then they kept adding layer after layer of cgi until it was pretty much unrecognizable. I am talking specifically about >>64659674
>>64659644


I honestly think this is much worse than if they just did the cgi.
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>>64659850
Fuck i meant industrial light and magic obviously, not weta.
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>>64659850
>I honestly think this is much worse than if they just did the cgi.
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>>64659720
Was there an alternate scene where Anakin and Sheev fight Windu and the Jedi? That would've been awesome
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>>64659586
Why?

There is a great deal of action and movement going on in that scene
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>>64659720
hol up, anikin wasn't in the room then
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>the prequels had sets
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Prequel haters BTFO
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>>64660071
idk just looked really fake. maybe it was the lighting or I really am just brainwashed. this thread is an eye opener.
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>>64660159
It really means nothing you pleb

>>64660230
Fights between two human characters probably required some sort of set so blocking and choreographing can be established in certain cases.
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>generic snow
>generic sand
>generic grass
vs
>Mustafar
>Kamino
>Felucia

Think I know which I enjoyed watching more.
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>SFAcucks getting this BTFO
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>>64660454
> lava planet
> sterile factory on water planet

Felucia is alright, looks more like Star Trek than Star Wars though
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>>64660515
>>SFAcucks getting this BTFO
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>>64659792
Oh hey. That's Grant and Tory from Mythbusters.
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>>64660394
That was makeup?
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Why do the Plinkett review give the impression that the movies had a lot more CGI?
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>>64660607
Did you think Sheev really looked like that?
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>>64660653
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>>64660634
Because they do have an absurd anount of cgi?
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>>64660634
Cause Plinkett knows shit about film production.
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>>64659354
Looks like Amigara Fault desu.
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>>64660634
>Why does satire leave out information
I don't know, for comedy? I bet you believe everything you see on The Daily Show as well.
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>>64659850
This. I can't believe they're real sets, because they managed to make them look fake as FUCK.
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>>64659354
>prequels

They aren't prequels though. Just episodes 1-3. A prequel would happen before 1-3.

>>64660230
It probably is fake in the final cut. They do a shit load of post processing to sets and things. Sometimes they completely CG over a practical effect.
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>>64660634
They had a lot of green screen. Must of what's posted in this thread is miniatures - they were still acting against green screens.
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>>64660909
>They aren't prequels though. Just episodes 1-3. A prequel would happen before 1-3.
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>>64660723
>I never asked for this
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All that effort and it still looked fake.
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>>64660634
The movies do have a lot more CGI. There's only a handful of sets pictured here.
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>>64660752
Wait hol up

Yoda is real? how in the hell? I always figured he was a puppet or some shit. How is he walking around by himself?
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>>64660938
That's how it works. You don't make "Part 5" the call "Part 4" a prequel. You call whatever comes before "Part 1" in the story line a "Prequel".

It is as bad as when people celebrated the new century when the 1999-2000 new year rolled around.
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>>64661074
In episodes 5 and 6 they got the real guy. He was busy during the filming of episode 1 so they had to use a puppet, which is why it looks so shitty.

In episodes 2 and 3 he was too old to do all the action scenes they wanted, so they just had him as a stand in for the cgi version you'd see in the finished movies.
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>>64661108
>You don't make "Part 5" the call "Part 4" a prequel. You call whatever comes before "Part 1" in the story line a "Prequel".
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>>64659452
>>64659644
>>64659674
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>>64660546
>>64660969
""""""""""""practical"""""""""""" sets
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>>64661108
FYI, The Phantom Menace is part 4.
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>>64661108
why are you trying to derail this thread?
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TFA fucking BTFO holy fuck!
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ITT cherry picking
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>actually saw these blu-ray edits of the originals for the first time last night that I've been hearing about for fucking years

>That deleted scene with 'human jabba' pops up

>they CGI'd in final concept Jabba over the human and scaled him down to human height

what in gods name
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>>64659928
It's like an uncanny valley of CGI.
All sets? Great!
All CGI? Tolerable.
Some sets with that much CGI poured on them? Shit.

That's really the biggest problem of the prequels; they were just too ugly. I'd have overlooked most of the story problems if Lucas just made movies that didn't look worse than in the fucking 70s.
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>>64661368
>he actually spend time to photoshopping the original picture to shitpost on /tv/
embarassing
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>>64661421
>>64661368
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>>64661375
Episode 1 actually had alot of practical sets. Or at least they didn't over CG them in post like they did the other 2
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>>64661449
>>64661421
>>64661368
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>>64659792

TPM actually made use of a lot of traditional techniques and was actually shot on film, which is why I think it does fit with the OT.

Those other two though...
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>>64661554
>sup lil space nigga
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>>64659922
>Everyone is human, no crazy creatures.

Bravo Lucas.
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>mfw prequelshits will defend this
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>>64661688
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>>64661650

I don't even like the prequels and I know how cherrypicked this is. Show the greenscreen from the OT and the maquettes from the PT faggot
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i'm really glad that the artistic genius, george lucas, took the time and effort to shoot on real locations and build real sets, and real costumes for characters to interact with, instead of having his animators do everything for him in CGI later
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>>64661688

that's all I've been thinking in this thread. could they not spare some ABS plastic to make a few dozen clone trooper suits?
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>>64661754
computers are cheaper than people, no unions, no craft services, etc
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>>64661688
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>>64661161
>the real guy

is this bait? Yoda has always been a puppet
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>>64661737
kek how can you this delusional
you've already been BTFO by this thread

Posting green and blue screen shots does not somehow negate all the practical effects shown in this thread.

Plus, I actually like CGI.
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>>64661777
>I wonder if there's any way we can do this shot in the computer
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>>64661754
>>64661809
>>64661688
The clones all had to be identical in height and weight.
>clones
fuck you people are dumb
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>>64661161
I almost took it, right good b8 m8.
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>>64659354
Great thread!

I am now in love with prequels (except Jar Jar, that was little bit too much, but it is not that bad, when if you compere it to that soulless BB8 toy).

TFA is shit and everything about it are lies. I have never expected that TFA will implode so well. But it happened and now we can understand what true SW movie is.

Fuck Kasdan who wrote that unoriginal piece of crap and Jew Jew with his lies about practical effects.
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>>64661898
The troopers in the OT looked the same.
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>>64661901
FALSE FLAG
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>>64661777
Lucas doesn't look that out of shape when he's not wearing the flannel shirts
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>>64661809

Is that true? Even with the man hours you'd need to pay artists to do all the close up Commander Cody scenes and stuff?

Do you think that's the sole reason? Just look at how many celebrities volunteered to cameo in the new movie for free. I bet any number of fans would have taken dismal dayplayer sums to wear a stormtrooper costume and stand in formation.
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>>64661065
I forgot about that deleted scene with Shaak Ti dying.
Why did Lucas think that was a good idea in the first place?
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>>64660364
mr lucas, I'm set designer
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>>64661898
>clones are exact copies
Kek>>64661901
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>>64661933
No?
Watch any shot with a few Storm Troopers in it.
That shot in 6 in the forest is good.
They are all clearly different heights.
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>>64661935
Disney shill, fuck of.
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>>64661898

>thinks viewers can determine someone's build and exact height through molded plastic
>has never seen a stormtrooper
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>>64661961
>I bet any number of fans
Identical fans?
CLONED fans?
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>>64661992
So get extras that are the same height and build. Do you know how many starving actors there are in LA?
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>>64661516
lewd
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>>64662025
see
>>64661992
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>>64660678
Zam Wessel is a cutie.
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>>64662026

No, but like twenty guys who are six foot and wear a size large. This is what casting calls do.
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What's the point in making all these practical sets if they are just going to jizz cgi all over them in post-production so they all look like cgi anyway?

There are ways to use practical sets properly, the prequels are not a good example of that. Something like Lord of the Rings is.
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>>64662025
>This

Just get a bunch of skinny dudes that are 6ft, put them in the armour and do all the background troopers with CG.
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>>64661961
Think about where the money goes? instead of paying working actors, Lucas redirects the budget to his own special effects company
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>>64662033
see
>>64662026
You would need an army of Identical fans.
>inb4 augment with CGI
it would have looked more jarring to have a couple comtumes and an army of CGI troopers behind them.
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>>64662057

>thinks Lucas knew the stormtroopers were going to be clones in the OT and had any reason to exclusively hire extras of a certain height
>thinks it would take casting in the early 2000s any more than a day to find 20 willing extras of the same height for a new star wars
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>yfw this thread has redeemed the prequel trilogy
>yfw OT and TFA fags are BTFO
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>>64662147

Are you aware that in the Death Star Hangar scene when the Emperor arrives in ESB that only the first row of stormtroopers is real and the remainder are matte paintint?
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>>64662223
>ESB
Probably bait, but yes I am. Are they moving of fighting? Are they marching in formation.

No.
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>>64662147
They don't have to be actual fucking clones to look like clones while masked and in armor, holy shit.

Besides, they didn't even make ONE set of armor for the fucking Jango actor to wear.
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>>64662147
>>64662223
imgur.com/gallery/mLraW
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>>64661898
>changing people's height on camera is impossible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWMFpxkGO_s
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>>64662152
But the Jango template was not in use at the time of the OT.
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>>64662147
>it would have looked more jarring to have a couple comtumes and an army of CGI troopers behind them.
more jarring than a real head floating on a CGI body? Kek
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>>64662314
lol
Forced perspective is very limited in it's use. It wouldn't work in a scene with lots of people and lots of camera movement.
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>>64662280
not bait. i just don't think it would really be "jarring." battle scenes are filled in all the time with CGI players in the background and real players in the foreground. I'm saying if you can't detect that a static image is a painting after post processing, it's not very likely an out of focus CG character would have been that noticeable
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>>64662328
>floating
I don't think you know how compositing works.

>image.jpg
oh
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>>64662368
That's why in a scene with LOTS of people you use cgi, or simply copy one person again and again, also like they did in Lord of the Rings for the huge army shots.
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>>64662326

even less reason height differences in stormtroopers is indicative that it is impossible to have actors hired specifically for their build to look uniform when wearing molded plastic armor
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>>64662380
You CAN, but in my opinion, It looks fine the way it is.

>incoming jaypegs and webms of shit cgi
It's about caring about the story before caring about how good the effects are.
So please drown me in shit PT cgi.
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>>64662420
????
That's what they did in AOTC.
They copied Temuera Morrison's build with CGI duplicates.
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>>64662314
No, no, no, too much effort. Just use CGI and get this shit over with.
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>>64662444

you're not wrong. I think the battle scenes look fine. It's only noticeable when characters like Cody need to interact with Obi-Wan. When it's the focus of the scene it's jarring. Having real actors in the foreground would only enhance immersion imo
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>>64662473
My point is for smaller, more static scenes like this, it could have easily been a guy in a suit.

Although basically everything in that shot apart from Chewie is cgi so WHO CARES AM I RIGHT?
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>>64659354
>made all these sets
>couldnt even make a realistic SD bridge

That CGI is worse than playstation
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>>64662507

where were these fuckers in TFA
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>>64662476
>lord of the rings was all a dream by Gandalf who lives alone and dying
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>>64659644
>>64659674

How do they get the "lava" to glow like that?
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>>64662585
JUST
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>>64660634
Because they actually do have a lot more CGI?
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>>64662585
>i spent 6 fucking hours getting this done and now you want me to post for a camera for another fucking hour
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>>64662511
Everything in that shot looks fine exept for the cloth part of the clone armor.

But really none of that stops me from enjoying this movie every time I watch it.
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>>64662470
I like how prequel defenders just invent this idea that people thought everything in the prequels was CGI because they can't actually defend it's shitty use of digital effects.
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>>64659354
>>64659372
>>64659452
>>64659502
>>64659530
>>64659644
>>64659674
>>64659792
>>64659922
>>64660364
>>64660601
>>64661106
>>64662218
>>64662470

>mfw most of this brilliance was produced in a nondescript warehouse in a shitty, mostly industrial part of my small home town

the feels. these films were unlike anything seen before when made by an indie film company. now they are trash made in hollywood
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>>64662520
nice hyperbole

Also, that doesn't look like CGI.
If it is, I can't tell.
So they did their job.
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>>64660081

if i recall correctly, there were a couple of versions of this scene shot, according to rumor back in the day. one in which Anakin was present for the entire altercation and intervened at the end when Windu got the upper hand. i also recall something about the lightsaber that Sheev used in one of the shots left in the film is evidently Anakin's.
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>>64662692
Look at the controls on the left edge. Basic rectangles, no detail on the surfaces, "soft glow" preset. It something you could do in 3dsmax in 10 minutes
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>>64662656
Are you actually being serious?

That shot looks like absolute garbage, video game cinematics look better than this shit.

Prequel fags everyone.
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>>64662684
I do like that Lucas worked seperate from hollywood.

>these movies were made out of pocket
based George
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>The prequels look bad, mkay ?
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>>64661967
Now is not the time to argue anon.....
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>>64662326
The correct answer
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>>64662656
You're kidding, right? Those closeups look like absolute dogshit, the fidelity of the CG has aged horribly. It looks like a fucking Blizzard Cutscene straight out of 2003.
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>>64662722
But that's how the OT Star Destroyers looked?
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>>64662511
What game is this?
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> so ugly, right ? Much prefer generic desert or snow
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>>64662722

Something I'm sure you noticed while this shot was on screen and not after ten minutes scrutinizing a still image
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>>64662768
Blizzard CGI has aged better than the prequels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYK_Gqyf48Y
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> can't compare with Jakku.
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>>64662722
>>64662768

ok fags, you should probably take a closer look at the work done in tfa because it's actually a step down in the cgi department.
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>>64662819
B T F O
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>>64662747
>>64662803
CHERRY
PICKING

STAR WARS REBELS LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS

KNOW YOUR LIMITATIONS AND WHEN NOT TO USE THEM
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>>64662835
Is that a joke? That's a fucking cartoon.

PT hasn't aged well but that is just shit.
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>>64662850
jakku can't even compare to tattooine. all we saw from jakku was a junkyard (with product placements from george lucas) and flea market
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>>64662850
Why is Naboo so wasted in TPM? Why did Lucas waste so much time on Tatooine?
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>>64661480
I would pound her ass while she stays put just like that
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>>64662857
Yeah.
ROTS Yoda>Maz Kanata
CGI wise

>inb4 shots of AOTC
>what is SSC and why was it not in use until 2005
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>>64662776
Yeah right
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>>64662835
Good, now we can show people how regular cgi of the era compared to star wars

it's like you faggots forget the prequels are about to be 20 years old
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>>64662850
Is this a screenshot from battlefront 2?
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>>64662889
>focuses on the style
>can't see that Blizzard's CGI has more fidelity than prequel CGI
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>>64662803
The desert scenes in ANH are used much more effectively, though. You don't need a thousand things in the frame to make it look good.
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>>64662888
That shot looks great though.

>>64662835
Short animatics will always age better than movies in the CGI department.
Much shorter, but same amount of time to work on them.
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>>64662902
>>64662857
Are you retards actually serious? When we have access to proper quality shots of TFA PLEASE show me some cgi that you think is worse than ANYTHING in the prequels.

Spoilers: there isn't any.
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>>64662955
>city planet
>barren rock


>hurr what are different eviroments
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>>64662918
I'm glad we agree?
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>>64662940

>doesn't understand that CGI elements on a CGI background look better than CHI characters on a real background to begin with due to the way the brain perceives the difference
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>>64663022
>real background

lel

>>64662888

stay delusional
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>>64662961
*aren't
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>>64662986

that anon is talking about dramatic import of the staging, not the cool different TFA playsets you bought
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>>64662585
gj george, he looks like steve buscemi now
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>>64661898
It's not like height is a bellcurve and majority of people are roughly the same height or anything
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>>64662961
Lol, faggot, are you serious? quality shots of the prequels cgi are rarely or never even posted, just shitty quality pixel shit. Fuck off. Maz and Gollum looked fake as fuck as star wars, faker than anything seen in the series
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>>64663077
>TFA
>different
u wot
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>>64662768
Chewie literally looks like a shitty photoshop
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>>64663104

I was so glad we got to see maZ kanata again after the way Antz ended
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>>64663104
FLASE FLAG

>>64663094
Temuera Morrison is 5'7
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>>64661992
>Not mentioning this scene as the example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQaLuqwtl8
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>>64662585
You know, for kids!
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>>64663119
Ironically enough, Chewbacca is the only real thing in that scene.
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>>64663152
kak
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>>64663146
Well, I'm never unseeing that.
Although now I might actually enjoy her scenes. Thanks anon!
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>>64663178
>CGI isn't a real thing
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>>64662589
Bottomlit panels covered in some kind of jelly i'm guessing
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>>64662958
>That shot looks great though.

If you're actually serious and not trying to force your contrarian 17 year old brain into thinking that, then I don't know what to tell you. The actual visual fidelity of the clone trooper CG has aged very poorly, they stand out like a sore thumb in the movies and they look like video game cutscenes.

Look I didn't like Maz Kanata either, but you cannot sit here an shitpost that she looks worse than this.
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>>64663213
You best be posting that as a an example of good CGI.
It looks great.
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>>64663147
Manlet Fett confirmed.
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>>64663221
no, CGI is virtual
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>>64663221
Let me know when you can walk up to and touch a piece of CG artwork that's not printed on a sheet of paper.
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>>64663249
That looks better than most 2002 CGI, especially 2002 CGI as the focus of a shot.

I don't see a problem.

You wouldn't say Taun Taun stop motion (not the recomosited 1997) from ESB looks good now, so why rag on 13 year old SFX?

Also, don't say they should have used a guy in a suit. I'm addressing your post about the quality of the CGI.
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>>64662035
how does R2 even fit into that?
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>>64663403
movie magic
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A lot more here:

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
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Maz looked like a fake video game character compared to jar jar. You can tell there was a lot of fucking effort on the cgi in the prequels, especially jar jar in the beginning, "they key to all of this"

not so much in tfa. it was an afterthought, lazily implemented into scenes.

but why bother talking about maz when there was a fucking gollum clone that looked WORSE than gollum did in 2001 or w/e
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>>64663376
>That looks better than most 2002 CGI, especially 2002 CGI as the focus of a shot.

you are kidding, right?
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>>64663480
>animated movie
Oh, you're retarded. Ok.

If that EXACT sully shot was in AOTC, you'd call it dogshit for not looking real.
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>>64663476
YOUR MEMES END HERE
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>>64661898

Clones can be different heights and weights and still be clones. They can even be different ages, or different sexes.
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>>64663376
>That looks better than most 2002 CGI, especially 2002 CGI as the focus of a shot.
Oh you done it now anon
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>>64663480
what the fuck are you going on about posting pixar animation?

which by the way exists because of lucasfilm.
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>That shot looks great though.
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>>64663540
HAN SOLO?
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>>64663561
Episode 1's CG aged much better than episode 2 and 3
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>>64663551
Ok, that doesn't look any better.
Post a few more so I can quote then all and laugh at you.
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>>64663571
It was the best scene in clone wars though, besides the fett charges
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>>64663551
sup. this is from like 1998 btw
>>
Best things about the prequels GO.

>Pod racing.
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>>64663659
That looks incredibly bland
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Quick reminder that TESB has an obvious GLOVE PUPPET monster coming out of a papier mache diorama as one of it's big moments.
Also a shit yeti which was almost totally cut out of the film it was so bad.
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>>64661898
Height and weight are both pretty determinant on diet

While they would probably all be the same height, the weight could vary based on specialization and assignment
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>>64660634
The Plinkett reviews, while entertaining at the time, are ignorantly opinionated original content. What I mean by that is the majority of the flaws pointed out were original. Plinkett made them up. People began to parrot Plinkett and still continue to do so but they are his opinions. Only a few of them were shared by the rest of us. I hated the prequels to but I've come to an understanding that they are what they are and I have grown to like RotS and even think AotC isn't that bad (I used to despise it). Fuck Red Letter Media. They should apply the same scrutiny to TFA and they should hate it too because it is full of flaws but they won't
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>>64663659
why are they all flying at the same altitude ?? stupid
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>>64663617
GOAT shot. I get hard everytime this shot comes up.

I watch the PT at least once a month.
I enjoy them everytime. I'll never understand people who say they suck.

I've watched the Plinkett reviews and he's just so bitter, rage has clouded his judgement.
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>>64662507
BIG
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>>64663551
This, Lord of the Rings blows any of the cgi in the prequels out of the fucking water.

https://youtu.be/na0B1vFM84Q?t=154
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>>64663718
uh,
>why is everyone driving on the same freeway going in the same direction?
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>>64663676
Bland or flashy?
What do you hate?
Please make up your mind.

>>64663690
This.
OT Purists are 'bout dumb as 'ell.
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>>64663749
This.

>>64663718
3/10
meme harder
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this is obviously late 90s.

but look at that attention to detail. it's digital art
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>>64663697
> I used to hold an opinion that the mainstream does, then I realized that that's not cool and I have to be a hipster contrarian so I can flaunt my e-peen with my sekrit klub friends
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>>64663769
Just because they MADE models doesn't mean they actually used them well in the film you dumb fuck.

Literally no point in making models if they layer cgi onto it so much that it just looks like all cgi anyway.
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>>64663710
Padme's ship was a real model, not CG
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>>64663740
Hell no. The shot of the balrog walking down the hallway looks REALLY bad.
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>>64663810
It looks like shit you fucking memelord.
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>>64663823
>what is reading comprehension

>ad populum
Oh, you're trolling. Carry on then.
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>>64663810
Too bad the movie it was in was a steaming bag of horseshit
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>>64663810
>but look at that attention to detail

the only part that can be mildly assessed on its detail is the part of the left on the foreground, which looks fake with horrible textures
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What is the point of this thread?
Everyone agrees the prequels were dogshit, so what if it also had some practical effects? Does that fix the awful dialogue? Or the plot?
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>>64663859
Why did you post this? It looks like absolute garbage.
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>>64663763
I'm not sure where you think I was criticizing flashy things, but both can be bad. You need a balance and many of the shots failed to achieve it.
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>>64663823
This is basically the whole of /tv/ right now.
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>>64661013

>Dex's Diner
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>>64663934
Only the background in that scene and the alien with the long neck is CG. Phantom Menace aged better than Clones and Sith because it showed restraint.
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>>64662850
>>64662803
>>64662747
None of these shots are in the actual films though. Why are you trying to prove shit with these?
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>>64663908
>Everyone agrees the prequels were dogshit

You must not have been on /tv/ recently.

>>64663934
If you think that blurry cgi mess outside the windows looks good then you need to get your eyes checked son.
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lol it's like you faggots are covering your eyes to reply
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>>64663876
>opinions are facts


>>64663908
>everyone agrees
nope
I love the prequels. Everything about them.
>incoming anti PT shitposters
Point out all the shit dialogue, acting, CGI, whatever.
I still love them.

And i don't think they're shit at all.

>its okay to like bad movies
Not what I said. I consider them to be good, well made movies.
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>>64663213
Imagine being Ian McDiarmid while filming revenge of the sith and having to act out the fight with Yoda in an entire blue-screen room with no one there for reference, just having to pretend to fire lightning out of your hands and shit
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>>64664002
>I love the prequels. Everything about them.
Do you love the oscar-winning performances by Hershlag and Christiansen?

>You are so beautiful
>It's only because I'm so in love
>No, it's because I'm so in love with YOU
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>>64664002
Only RotS could ever be considered as a 'good' film.

Being anti-PT isn't shitposting either, it's literally the majority opinion that those films are bad.
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>>64663997
Why does everything look blurry and washed out?
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>>64664039
I love that he just went full-on ham in ROTS. You could tell he was just having the fucking time of his life.
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>>64663213
And people in this thread were wondering why people call the prequels CGIshit.
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>>64664073
To hide the fact that the Lucasfilm server farms of 2002 couldn't render enough visual fidelity needed to make them look realistic
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>>64664073
>why is everything orange and teal
fuck outta here
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>>64659354
so what are you trying to say op? is this a good thing or a bad thing im confused
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>>64664117
that shot is from 1998
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>>64664056
I do not blame them at all for that dialogue.
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>>64664098
>those flat textures
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>>64664085

Truly
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>>64664164
How fucking retarded are you. Your filename says ATTACK OF THE CLONES
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>>64664190
Lol
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>>64664098
BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE SHIT
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>>64664190
(You)
Honestly, why bother?
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>>64664136
That's not even cgi.
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>>64660587
this is new to me,thanks
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>>64664227
Then why don't other films look better
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>>64664136
>25 years of progress

thank you cgi
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>>64663967
This
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Revenge of the Sith would have more rewatchability if it didn't have that fucking sound where yoda nail is scratching the pod, thats the only thing that keeps me from watching it
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Best work Lucasfilm has ever done and will ever do coming through
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>b-but that's not cgi!! >:(

lol, what about the op then weirdos
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>>64660587
They were all special effects guys before they got the show.
>>
The Star Wars prequels are a strange beast

Some of the worst looking stuff is practical effects.
Some of the CGI is absolutely amazing.

Some scenes look mind bogglingly real then you realise it's CG, while some look noticeably fake and they turn out to be miniatures.

I'm chalking it up to it being early days for digital film making and people not really knowing what they're doing/doing a hell of a lot under time constraints

The one thing to take home from this is: At least they tried. And you can tell that they really tried.
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>>64664298
It's amazing how Discovery managed to make Adam not look like a sperg over the course of Mythbusters.
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>>64664292
kek
That shit hurts.
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>>64664271
What other films?
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>>64664287
Vader's mask is noticeable low quality in ANH, particularly in this scene, and those red eyes which were done away with in the later films are really weird.

His mask improves by leaps and bounds for ESB tho
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>>64664287
Please don't be implying what I think you're implying.


>>64664338
Very good post.
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>>64662756
This such an awkward fucking scene I'm surprised it got cut.
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>>64664338
>time constraints

>every star wars film took 3 years
>lucas said it would take him another decade to do the sequel trilogy proper
>disney now shits out star wars annually
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>>64661137
There was a Matte Painting behind them in that scene. Why would you composite a matte painting later?
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>>64664354
>the SW movies are the only movies in existence
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>>64664354
Exactly.

Goddamn, you people. Lol.
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>>64664406
Because they're moving around in front of it
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>>64662756
>Let's try spinning, that's a good trick.

George, pottery at its finest
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>>64664227

But this is just your opinion, I love the sleek look.
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>>64664404
>>every star wars film took 3 years
*2 years
They didn't work nonstop for nine years, fucking retard.

>disney now shits out SW annually
Yeah, and TFA looks less professional than the PT.
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>>64663823
>I used to hold an opinion that the mainstream does
I try not to because that would mean it's not my opinion. A social groupthink opinion is somebody's else's opinion parroted by a social hive who cannot think for themselves and need others to do it for them.
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>ITT: 50 y/o oldfag samefagging all over the thread to make it look like people actually don't like the prequels
back2reddit with you mikey boy
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>>64664404
I think they had release dates already announced and were definitely working to a deadline. For example, it is well known that Episodes II and III started haveing their sets built before the scripts were even finished, and may have even stared shooting with incomplete scripts, meaning that similar issues could have occurred with the effects.

I wonder how much better they would have looked/how much better the script could have been if they just took like 5 years to make a film.

Also yes, Snoke and Maz Kanata in TFA were only "finalised" in October, meaning they only had like 1-2 months to render the CGI, and it is really noticeable because Snoke looks much worse than General Grievous ever did
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>>64664416
>>64664434
I meant which films in particular you are referring to that you think have worse cgi than the prequels?
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>>64664509
>and it is really noticeable because Snoke looks much worse than General Grievous ever did
this
Much more cartoony.
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>>64664478
>this post

It simply means you hold an opinion that the majority does as well. It doesn't mean you got your opinion from others.
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>>64664516
The Hobbit
2012
Independance Day 2 trailer


And on and on and on...
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Look at these blue screen cut off arms!! Blasphemy! JJ would have practically cut off his amrs.
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>>64661809
>computers are cheaper than people, no unions, no craft services, etc
A couple of problems with this. Jake the Mess was still on set, except he was wearing a a blue leotard so they could put the armor in later.

For everyone else they're just wearing helmets, and have no lines, which mean's they're not required to be a member of SAG, they're just extras.

I can understand using digital clones for wide shots, in the background, in effect shots, etc. But when it's 6 clones in frame, and only one speaks, all you need is a casting call for a dozen people who are 6ft with a medium build. That's not even kind of difficult.

The only thing I can think of is that doing a mixed bag, like REAL troopers in one shot, CG in the next, is that the changeover is TOO obvious. But since they never made a single piece of clone armor, I don't know how that can be true.
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>>64664482
>ITT: Defensive 14 year old's who have just discovered the adults they look up to don't like the shitty movies they grew up with.
>>
Daily Reminder
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>>64664573
Literally no one says they have good cgi though.
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>>64664617
There's one shot at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith that Lucas talks about in the director's commentary where you can clearly see two unmasked troopers with exactly the same face piloting a proto-x-wing

I love stuff like that

George said "we needed a way to very quickly and easily explain to new viewers that these were clones" and that's a very effective way of doing it
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>>64664624
9/10.
At least there are no lens-flares
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>>64662280
>fake storm troopers who move and fight = bad
>fake storm troopers who don't move at all = good

wut
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>>64664624
But look at all those GREAT practical effects!

>literally an animated film at this point
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>>64664624
Yeah this looks like a PS2 game today but it must have blown people's MINDS in the cinema in 2002
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>>64664473
No, its 3 years, you dumb piece of shit

tfa looks like fanfiction made by a hack being told what to do by focus groups hell bent on marketing

star wars is its in thing, with its own place in cinema and film history. it's not a fucking product like capeshit. at least, it was never meant to be. and now it is.
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>>64664624
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The sleek look of the prequels is not due to "bad cgi" but an artistic choice by Lucas. I often laugh when I sea people complaining about interiors being too clean and shiny in the prequels. Do you really expect dirt and grit in the luxurious Jedi Temple or the offices of the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic Sheeve Palpatine !?? Some people are so dumb...
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>>64660896
>>64659850
George decided to use new digital camera technology to shoot the movie. Problem was the resolution of those cameras is about equivalent to what you can do with an iPad or a GoPro today.

Film does a lot better in masking the imperfections of things like makeup, sets and miniatures, while Digital has a greater tendency to make it look fake. It's the same reason why the Hobbit movies look so crappy.
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>>64664713
There is still not even PS4 games that look like this. What the fuck are you people on?
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>>64664744
Exactly. That clean, polished look unique to Star Wars has been replaced by gritty grimdark marvel orange and blue bullshit.

Fuck all of you
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>>64664744
>he MEANT for it to look like shit!
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>>64664599
I don't really know what your point is here. Rotoscoping and removing things digitally is a perfectly fine and acceptable use of CG that LITERALLY no one will disagree with
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>>64664752
>George decided to use new digital camera technology to shoot the movie.
The Phantom Menace was shot mostly on Film. Lucas, wanting to push digital cameras, announced that he had shot a few scenes digitally and put them in the movie, and challenged people to figure out what was film, and what was digital.

The night shot on Tatooine where Qui-Gon is talking to anakin and his mom outside their house is definitely one of them.
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>>64664757
the new battlefront looks objectively better than that scene
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>>64662106
Because it was cheaper and saved on rendering time to build miniatures or shoot live-action plates rather then have all digital buildings and stuff.
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>>64664780
>That clean, polished look unique to Star Wars
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>>64664757
>There is still not even PS4 games that look like this.

>tfw videogames look better than the prequelshits
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>>64662476
That was more because 3D cameras made it so you couldn't do all the forced perspective tricks from LOTR.
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>>64664847
This isn't even a cinematic either, it literally looks like this in the game. Prequel fags BTFO lmbao
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>>64664744
>laughing about sea people
It's your ass
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>>64664862
3D was also a mistake.
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>>64664847
What realistic looking plastic ferns and trees. And that bloom lighting isn't overdone at all.
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>>64664729
To this day, I have no idea what's going on in this picture.
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>>64664913
I think 3D has a time and a place.

Something like Planet Earth, shot in actual 3D, and in HFR would be breathtaking.
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>>64664847

If you really think this look better than anything in the prequels you are blind.
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>>64665115
and it still looks better than Ep. II CGI :^)
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>>64665122
Yes, and Avatar, 99% of other things I absolutely hate it. It only made the Hobbit films look even more fake than they already looked.
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>>64664828
I think he meant the metallic look of things. You know, everything being gray.
The way he says it is weird, but that's what I take from his note on blue/orange. (Which this picture also has.)
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>>64665118
It's an old as fuck reaction image of a guy puking beer. It's textbook memetic mutation.
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>>64665145
I agree, the prequels look incredible. So much better than those ugly video games.
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>>64664780
>That clean, polished look unique to Star Wars
Are you high? The thing that made the OT stand out was that all of the technology looked used and lived in. The falcon had all kinds of scorch marks, the interior looks like my college apartment, it was only the imperials that had everything spotless and polished and that was to visually explain the differences of the empire vs. the rest of the galaxy. An antiseptic, inhumane order.
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>>64665151
Cool, so imagine if Star Wars wasn't a gay disney machine instead of still being made by actual filmmakers today
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>>64665204
That part I knew, it's just I still find it difficult to believe the original is real.
I've seen people throw up before, but never like this. It's like if even the original is fake to me.
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>people still think star wars is good for anything but the lore
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>>64665367
>I've seen people throw up before
It's just a photo that got caught at a perfect time. Sure you've seen people throw up, but that exact shot lasts for a fraction of a second in the real world.

That kind of high pressure, still-foamy, projectile vomit makes me suspect either a keg-stand of shotgunning one too many beers.

I lived on the UW campus in Madison, Wisconsin for years. I hold a doctorate in alcohol-related vomit analysis.
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>>64665628
Well, I guess I'll have to go with your superior expertise.
Still, this sort of stuff would have to spread it out a lot, and pretty much every time I saw anyone throw up, it was just kind of oozing out, with little to no forward momentum.
Maybe we just don't have the steam engine stomachs, necessary for this kind of pressure.
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Amazing practical effects.
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>>64664056
I always forget that those lines are even in the movie. It's actually kind of wondrous, because I laugh every time
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