Say what you like about grievous, but before his run in with windu, this guy was a god. His fighting style against jedi was to literally attack them so furiously they didnt have time to focus enough to use even basic force powers. He has 23 confirmed jedi kills to his name, but the actually number is thought to be in the hundreds. He took on 2 jedi masters and padewans at once and would have killed them all effortlessly if a load of clones in a gunship hadn't turned up.
People say the movies fucked up Anekin, but this guy is the prequels true victim.
>no it's not canon sorry
It was canon once, Disney just made it non-canon recently because they can't make money from it.
>you can check the original announcement that outlines the new canon and you'll see it doesn't mention it.
>original announcement that outlines the new canon
>outlines the new canon
As i mentioned earlier, it is technically still canon. The series doesn't interfere with any new content related to any new Star Wars media produced by Disney. They simply made it non-canon because you don't give Disney any money from watching it.
It's not part of the new canon, but interestingly enough, it's the only part of the EU (to my knowledge) that serves as a direct prelude to Episode III. It has a scene where Grievous kidnaps Sheev.
Look at the picture attached to my post. Disney is basicly denying all EU canon.
Take the novel Tales from Jabba's Palace for example. All the characters in the book officialy dies in Disneys canon (ep 6.), it clearly doesn't contradict with any new Star Wars content, so why make it non-canon?
>so why make it non-canon?
Because they are now the ultimate authority on what's canon. It's literally non-canon just because they say so and there's nothing you can do about that
>Genndy actual utilizes Grievous body to do tactical things in battle.
Lucas is such a fucking hack.
Wait. What? THIS is how he gets that fucking cough? I've been hearing niggers say for YEARS that somewhere it's explained. But this is the explanation? OP just fucking said Grevious was the shit. And implied Windu really fucked Grievious up.
The actual explanation is that Grevious got fucked up solely because Windu decided to be an edgelord and use dark force on him? Once? Fuck that shit.
Watch this one till the end
They reserve the right to fill in the continuity gaps with whatever they want so they can make money. I'd moreso say anything EU not acknowledged by Disney yet is in limbo and at decent risk of being retconned.
Lets have the show where the Jedi kick ass, the Clone Troopers are competent, and the villains are actually threatening not be cannon. No I want the show where they all look like shitty wooden puppets to be cannon.
if you liked the world building of the prequels, then this is one of the best things no longer canon that still makes sense.
also if you like samurai jack then you should watch it.
No, I'm not saying it was dumb for him to do that. I'm saying it's just lame as fuck that this is the actual explanation. It wasn't a fight or anything. It was literally "hey, you!" -clenches-
Only Star Wars episode that is TRUE KINO
The entire sequence of Palpatine's kidnapping is great though, Windu fucking up Grievous before escaping is how it ends. Before that he fucks up several Jedi, and Windu arrives just as they are leaving.
Honestly this cartoon had some action sequences that were too over the top but this really is how the prequels should have been in the movies
Yeah whatever doesn't take away from the quality it's 100x than the gay cgi clone wars
the only good thing about clone wars was grievous being a super badass. the rest was nothing special and it losses some points for sucking windus dick so hard. where was all that fucking skill in the movies windu? it doesnt fit with the clone wars show either niggers. theres a lot of differences, one of them being ventress' story and how she ended up under dookus tutelage
its not canon. the original "concept" was that his respirator would be a less advanced version of vaders, so it coughs sometimes. the real reason for the cough was lucas thinking itd be funny if he coughed
It's pretty good, but it suffers from being formatted for 3 minute mini-episodes that they would show between shows in commercial breaks in CN.
It can feel a bit dense if watched back to back and not bit by bit as it was intended to.
Honestly I've been saying this for ages. You can't be a star wars fan without your own headcanon, cgi clonewars and rebels already fucked up the new canon too much
I've always considered the cartoon as a whole as Episode2.5 and probably the best episode of the prequels
Also, fun fact everyone
TCW cartoon won an emmy
And Lucas loved it so much at first that he let cartoon network employees see ep3 early
So fuck that cgi shitfest
>It's literally non-canon just because they say so and there's nothing you can do about that
>because they say so and there's nothing you can do about that
>because they say so
>They reserve the right to fill in the continuity gaps with whatever they want so they can make money.
>so they can make money.
Can you reddit shills please leave? Don't you see what you are typing? Jesus Christ.
Just because Disney says something doesn't make it true. Lots of EU content has lots of characters and background-stories that Disney will never even touch upon. The stories don't even interfer with any new work created by Disney.
>he prefers the cowardly, scheming grevious
>Just because Disney says something doesn't make it true
What part of they own the franchise don't you understand? If they say something isn't Star Wars canon then it's not, they literally have the right to decide and they don't need a fucking reason to discard anything
i got bored already. the joke was that that faggot said the clone wars (tcw), which is the name of the cgi show. clone wars is the name of the animated one
yes it does
>And the Jedi being that OP contradicts the movies too.
Think of it as an exaggeration given the style
Like imagine it's stories being passed down after the battles were over.
I mean check this out
Everyone who survives is fucking badass. Take the plot points as canon and the action as an awesome exaggeration
He won his battles with petty tricks. Watch the CGI show if you're curious about a record of the actual events.
Windu gave him a cough, not turned him into a coward. He was always supposed to be a coward, which this show didn't show. And the fights being over the top in the movies isn't the same as Windu being able to stay in the air for ten seconds after a jump or defeating a droid army with his bare hands. Gennywars didn't make any sense.
As much as I like Grievous, he is poorly handled in everything.
Miniseries makes him fucking OP.
TCW makes him a little bitch that even looses to Jar Jar Binks army.
And the movie did fuck all with him.
The bald dual wielding sith girl gets a completely different storyline.
Anakin gets a padawan.
Grievous' lungs were fucked way before the battle of Coruscant.
And probably many more things.
Jedis are demigods. Grievous isn't a coward. Planes of the republic appearing in war earlier than they actually do. It shows the process of creating lightsabers, which was shown differently in the CGI series. It fails to show Anakin had a Padawan, Ahsoka, which is a canon character.
it does. not like it even matters. nothing actually significant or important even happened in it. it was just fights and then lead up to episode 3
he was alright. despite not being a super badass, he was still pretty much unbeaten. non force sensitive and he fought and killed jedi masters, fought back ventress and even maul whos a sith lord. also killed mauls mom
What, too long for your attention span? Ahsoka is annoying as a flaw - something a character needs to be developed in latter seasons. As soon as she gets her new costume she's fine. She's actually one of the most endearing characters of the show.
You Disney cucks don't know anything about Star Wars. Your just a bunch of moneymaking machines to them. Enjoying a franchise is not about following the latest official statements about the series, its about redefining and interpret it so it makes sense to you.
What if someone bought buddhism by paying the Dalai Lama a sum of money, and then suddenly made all of the old versions of the Tripitaka "unofficial" and non-canon, and said that everyone that is a true buddhist has to buy the new version, otherwise they are not a true buddhist? You guys just can't separate phenomenon from capitalism, that's the problem.
Upon its initial release it was.
It was the official bridge between ep2 and 3
Then a bunch of stuff happened (a book of the same events told differently and then lucas' realising that he could get more money from merchandising a long-running kids' tv show with no end in sight)
This cartoon was shit, and thankfully it was never part of canon.
No one even gave a fuck about it when it came out either. Why the fuck do you think it got canceled so bad? No one liked it aside from dumb kids.
All the prequel fags that were 10 back in the early 2000's are shitposting in their 20's know about dumb shit they have nostalgia for, like this cartoon.
Get fucked millennial scum. This cartoon was utter shit, and thankfully it will fall into obscurity soon enough anyway.
No it wasn't as EU was never canon.
The show wasn't even in EU continuity either. In the EU Labyrinth of evil was the actual bridge between the two, since at that time EU continuity was mostly contained to the books, and no one cares about a cartoon for kids that existed solely to hook the next generation on Star Wars. Guess it worked judging by all the tards that liked this shit though.
>Why the fuck do you think it got canceled so bad?
You mean the show that was ordered for two seasons of 20 episodes and was so well received that they made a third season?
Also the same series that lucas loved so much at first that he personally congratulated the team and invited them all to see Episode 3 early?
Yeah, stop posting, you sound like a retard
>No one even gave a fuck about it when it came out either. Why the fuck do you think it got canceled so bad? No one liked it aside from dumb kids
Nope. It was originally planned to only be two seasons (volume 1) but its popularity gave it a third (volume 2) ending on a cliffhanger leading directly into ROTS. It ran for the three years in between II and III and naturally concluded, not canceled. Not to mention it was what led to a whole other Clone Wars show.
No matter how much you wish it, the cartoon was never canon, filthy EUfag.
>Not to mention it was what led to a whole other Clone Wars show.
It didn't, considering it retconed the old cartoon.
I'm not an EUfag. In fact, i don't own any Star Wars merchandise except for the first movies. I just like that cartoon and enjoy the way it explains the path between episode 1 and 2. E njoy your new Disney materialism targeted towards children you sheep.
blow me nigger. tfa wasnt great and rey was a massive mary sue but the backlash its getting is memetic shit like the hate on nickelback and bieber. just a bunch of faggots going with what they think is the cool opinion instead of forming their own. why dont you go make yet another tfa hate thread and complain about things that actually have answers, which youll just ignore because you dont actually care and are just bitching for fun
the canon is the movies, the two cartoons, and the books of all the movies. thats what disney said was canon. i guess some comics too like the darth maul one since it was supposed to be in the clone wars
>I liked a cartoon targeted at children
>but it is you who are children!
George himself supervised the production of that cartoon. Then you might as well call the entire Star Wars universe aimed at children, you are lacking spectrum.
>it's not canon because I say so!
Grow up and accept that it's out of your damn control.
You're right, all that shit is canon, but thankfully, Disney is smart enough to make all non film canon filler.
So he's right in practice, only the films are really going to be canon, even if on paper other stuff is supposed to be as well.
It had good and bad aspects. I could get over some of the silly stuff like the droid factory or the 50's diner (terrible, terrible parts, but I get it, it's for kids, whatever), but Anakin and Padme's love story was just extended cringe, sooo bad.
I actually skip any scenes with those two.
He didn't supervise shit, he has a producer credit, but he wasn't involved at all aside for creating boundaries Tartakovsky can't cross.
>According to Tartakovsky, Lucasfilm became interested in the series because action figures based on the prequel films had been selling less-than-expected.
Lol, the cartoon was literally created to increase toy sales to kids.
Why are EUfags all so dumb?
>Lol, the cartoon was literally created to increase toy sales to kids.
>Lol, the ... was literally created to increase toy sales to kids.
All movies and media related to Star Wars after the first 6 films fit in with that statement, you just played your self bro.
Suck a dick. Clone troopers were never as incompetent as Storm troopers. They appearance in the Battle of Geonosis in Episode II decides the battle. Maybe watching the actual movies is too much to ask.
>what Jews say is canon
Oh, slly boy.
Canon is what the creator, the guy who actually created the whole universe, who has everything in his head, every single idea, the same heard all of it was born frome, does. Or what he declares canon. Nothing else.
you dont know that. the clone wars kind of fleshes out anakin some more and better portrays why he feels so strongly about the jedi and why he turned so easily. rebels though, no idea where theyre going with that
It ends literally MINUTES (if not seconds) before EP3 starts. It shows Anakin rallying the clone troopers to rescue palpatine, and the final shot of the cartoon is that space battle that EP3 begins in.
Stop with this retarded argument. Star Wars is a massive franchise that reaches across many demographics. The vast majority of movie goers are not kids, it's not a Disney cartoon (yet). Doesn't change the fact only kids saw the 2003 cartoon and that it was designed for them.
why so triggered?
>you dont know that
Nah, I do. Nothing that isn't a film will be relevant to the actual films. Just the nature of the business, but the movies have to work on their own and everything else can only hope to be filler at best.
Disney so far has treated their canon just like Lucasfilm treated EU. None of the neoEU was even mentioned in TFA, and none of the movies will reference anything but the other movies before. For better or worse.
Lucas was just as greedy as Disney.
If he truly cared about the series, he would not have sold the rights.
>canon is what the creator, the guy who actually created the whole universe, who has everything in his head, every single idea, the same heard all of it was born frome, does. Or what he declares canon. Nothing else.
> the guy who actually created the whole universe
Yea, last time i checked, Disney did not create the Star Wars universe. George acknowledged the EU, and just like you said, the creator decides what is canon and what is not.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Sith Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on The Republic, and I have over 20 confirmed Jedi kills. I am trained in advanced warfare and I’m the top droid in the entire Federation. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this Galaxy, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Holonet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Galaxy and your location is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, Jedi scum. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, poodoo. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in saber combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Confederacy of Independent Systems and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the Galaxy, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>posting dead character
theres no real way for them to reference it though. everything happened to anakin or in the case of rebels, still to anakin but also a separate group of rebels. how would they even reference the shows?
>George acknowledged the EU,
This never happened, in the fact, the opposite did. George literally called the EU a parallel universe separate from his movies.
I don't know why EUfags are so resistant to this, but there is nothing you can do to change it. Accept it and move on, EU is dead and gone forever.
If you want greviouses origin story(which explains the cough) you need to read the comic. The cover has this PIC on it
By reference I mean that nothing that happens in the comics, books or video games will ever matter in the context of the story of the movies.
Even though it all may be canon, it's irrelevant if it is or isn't', because the movies will treat it as if it did not exist anyway and only acknowledge other movies.
Mace Windu was also a loose cannon jedi who didn't play by the rules. Much more befitting of Samuel L Jackson, he was ripping droids apart and crushing organs with the force. That Clone Wars cartoon was miles better than anything in the actual movie it got me excited to see.
yeah? thats how i meant it too, except that my position is that they dont have a way to actually use any of that shit because its all far in the past and happened to characters that are not, will not, or cannot be in the new movies
theres no way. its gonna be a gritty grimdark movie. theres no room for the niggers from rebels. and its not like any of them will survive until then anyways. if ANYTHING itll be a small verbal reference
it would be an off hand remark. like in star trek when scotty off hand mentions anally fucking archers dog. you dont need to know who archer is or was. you dont need to have seen enterprise. its just a comment. thats as much as theyll do, if at all. something like "its not as bad as sitting next to captain zeb". thats it
He wrecked Asajj and all her edgy friends later in the CGI series though.
Lol, are these people's post about the Clones Wars not being canon serious?
Anyway, I wouldn't say the Episode III reuined Grevious. He lost to Kenobi, who was more skilled at fighting than even Anakin. Maybe all the criticism about Lucas
LOL, this scene will probably be forever more amazing than anything in this shitty new fake star wars.
I could've sworn I heard that the Clone Wars animation were still canon, but if they aren't it's stupid because the hand drawn one in particular is basically a part of the main Episode's story...
Goes to show just how powerful obi wan fucking is.
You know what? would be cool if they found out the sample Qui Gon analised was actually Obi's and it was found out on obi's trilogy.
I mean, come on, the guy fucked grievous effortlessly, fucked up aakin who was at the time stronger than dooku so technically stronger than yoda.
Dumbass, Windu is supposed to be 2nd to Yoda. Do you really think fucking Sam Jackson can do any of that in real life. It's called taking the opportunity to "world build", as you children call it.
>all these plebs thinking the real Jedi of the Prequel era were over the top and should not be "canon"
you guys are pathetic. I don't understand why so many people who don't like Star Wars even try to.
What the fuck are you talking about? If he were actually greedy, he would've held on to his creation and milk the hell out of it regardless of what the people though.
He sold it so that everyone could understand that not knowing a good thing till it's gone applied to his Star Wars films as well.
>this guy was a god. His fighting style against jedi was to literally attack them so furiously they didnt have time to focus enough to use even basic force powers. He has 23 confirmed jedi kills to his name, but the actually number is thought to be in the hundreds. He took on 2 jedi masters and padewans at once and would have killed them all effortlessly if a load of clones in a gunship hadn't turned up.
Did you seriously just type that? Are you 10?
grievous had the cough before that
dudes was an alien bounty hunter for dooku
was gonna betray him
dooku blows up ship, blames jedi
greivous becomes cyborg take the living tissue and put it in a robot
shit got fucked up tho in the process
cyborg has emphysema
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Oh shit! I'd forgotten all about this, thanks, anon
like what? he was a famous warlord, general of the biggest droid army in the galaxy. he could battle jedi and win despite not being force sensitive. statues were made in his honor. nigger was hardcore. if you think he got blasted to bits, which is why hes mostly droid, thats noncanon. he just kept upgrading his body to be able to kill better until he reached the point where all that was left of him was his brain, his eyes, and a goody bag of guts