What is /tv/'s final verdict on this masterpiece of cinema?
When did Tarantino stop making art and start making pornography?
Quentins 3rd best underneath pulp fiction and resivior dogs.
It feels like a 7/10 but giving the uniqueness of it amongst our time with every movie sjw pandering I'll give it a 15/10 best movie of the decade.
>tfw its the last best performance by Jackson since he's mentally going to die soon
>Channing tatum getting his head blown off
>Tarantino's last three movies are nothing but racial revenge-porn
>"LOOK PAST IT GUIZE!"
I really don't like Django but Hateful Eight didn't remind me of it at all. It had a bizarrely anti-violence message that really threw me and had me reflecting on Inglourious Basterds and seeing it in a slightly different light.
I dislike all the pretentiousness like the movie divided in chapters, the old school fonts, "tarantinos 8th film", and the fact that it was shot on some old ass film.
Then it was boring for the first half.
>" HAVE YOY HEARD OF _______?"
>YOU MEAN THE __________? THE _________ THAT KILLED 500 BLAH BLAH BLAH
rinse and repeat for 3/4 of the movie.
The whole guy sucking Jackson's dick thing was edgy as fuck.
I really didn't get much out of the film other than the racial element t b h. Judging on how Tarantino goes to these Black Lives Matters rallies, Samuel Jackson's character makes sense. He does a lot of bad things, but is justified by the outcome.
Well if you can't look past what Tarantino is doing outside of his movies then it might not be worth talking about it, but the ending to me struck me largely as an anti-violence-and-hate-in-general message rather than simply a anti racism one. Jackson's character is not at all justified by the outcome in my opinion. He has his balls shot off and his last act is brutally murdering a woman. The supposed "heroes" of the movie who we are rooting for aren't heroic, they're just dying on the floor of a dingy cabin and the only thing they care about is inflicting more violence before they go. The whole point of the Lincoln Letter was that it was bullshit, that the nobility that people got from hearing about it and reading it was a lie, and it represented the false pretexts that people use to rationalize their brutality and hate. I'm not discounting that racism isn't a large theme of the movie, but I think that it's just meant to represent another arbitrary excuse for hatred like happening to be on opposite political and ideological sides.
anyone else thought of all the references to The Thing?
>the scene putting up poles to get to the shitter
>the scene where they are lined up against a wall and questioned
Could be coincidences but the scene with the poles served virtually no purpose, or am I wrong?
You don't think it's important that the last 2 characters alive are the black man and a racist who have come to terms with each other? The Lincoln letter was important because Jackson needed something that made him equal, but he had to lie to do it. For him the ends justified the means, because he was at a disadvantage, which obviously relates to BLM.
I just saw it last night and although I can't be sure I didn't read that The Thing was a big influence on him I definitely got that vibe. Morricone, trapped in a snowstorm paranoia, Russell, that pole scene, by the time the intermission rolled around The Thing was on my mind. But I liked that although he evoked it and played with it's themes he made something that was his own.
Except The Thing had a great sense of suspense and build-up up until the very last frame.
With Quentin Fartatino it always ends in a sudden, violent cathartic explosion of blood and guts and then...nothing - equivalent to your dick shooting his load and getting limp immediately.
It IS miles better than the liquid shit that was Kill Bill, Death Proof, Inglorious Kikes and Nigger Unchained, but it was still a 40 minutes too long 6/10 flick.
Again, the fact that they were the last two characters alive was meaningless. It didn't matter how old they were, how big of badasses they were, how clever they were, or what color there skin was, the bottom line is they were bleeding out in a cabin in the middle of nowhere and their final act was to rationalize a brutal act of violence as a noble tribute to their friend.
I absolutely loved it. Maybe not his absolute best, but a damn good time. If you've seen a few of his movies you already knew what to expect. I knew right form the get go it would end with
everyone shooting eachotherbut it didn't ruin it for me. Tarantino is best when it comes to dialogue and the interactions between characters, and in this he delivers. I thought Sam Jacksons scene with the Confederate general and his son was way over the top and carelessly forced in. But I did appreciate how the black guy wasn't exactly the hero and the confederates weren't exactly evil. It did have decent balance. I feel like everyone probably should have hated Jacksons character, he was a scum bag.
So I haven't followed the news about this movie because Tarantino movies are garbage.
But who leaked the script ?
I remember the ugly guy saying that it was Dern, Madsen or Roth but they're all in the movie ?!
Horrible in my opinion. killing Kurt was a huge mistake.
and I found the use of 70mm really pointless and it was just a selling gimmick for the movie.
Probably Tarantino is imitating PTA with The master(which is an amazing film), they even talk about 70mm and digital in a recent interview.
Tarantino now relies in his trademarks instead of trying to do something new, Which is a shame.
lot of bad casting imo
channing tatum seemed very out of place and just barely couldn't get his accent right
also the sheriff guy was absolutely retarded. terrible actor with an overblown accent
mr. orange was a little over the top as well.
>channing tatum seemed very out of place
He was one of my favorite characters. The only one who seemed out of place to me was the Mexican. Who decided that accent was good? Did they intentionally make it absolutely terrible? Was it some kind of inside joke?
Pretty solid compared to his other stuff. Definitely not his worst movie, but the only movie he's done where I felt like he was bringing nothing new to the table at all. I read a review that said it seemed like he was spinning his wheels, and that captures it pretty well for me.
Morricone's score was great, Walton Goggins and Jennifer Jason Leigh were great. Roth, Jackson, and Kurt Russell have all been good in Tarantino's other movies but weren't as good in this one (but Kurt was pretty good desu).
There was hardly a racial aspect to the film. It drew a lot from the social and political climate of the time, and obviously race is a pretty big factor as far as that's concerned, but it's not like this was a "race movie". For being so enamored with African-American culture, Tarantino actually has an extremely nuanced and even-handed understanding of slavery and the time period in general. Felt the same way about Inglourious Basterds. Framing the minorities as the underdogs getting these big revenge moments has more to do with the movies he's drawing his influences from than his actual views, I think.
I only saw it once but really debating seeing it again, when the credits rolled with that song it really hit me. I'm still confused on if the message was only about race, or if it was something else? I don't even like this period of history but this was done so well.
As a side note, I actually turned into a meme seeing this. A Tarantino movie alone at 10:30 am it was like I was a 4chan post.
Movie does get less entertaining when Kurt Russell gets killed. I was hoping he would stay alive until the end. Kill him off by all means but he was the most interesting character and he could have even escaped
Felt aimless. Like he rookie the scraps of race from Django and put it in this, then re-watched The Thing and Reservoir Dogs (which he stroked himself to) and finished the third draft. From there he called it finished, phones up old friends and made a three hour long gab fest to turned into a murder mystery after 90 minutes.
I don't think the movie is really primarily trying to make a point about race.
Tarantino likes to play up the whole shlocky "minorities getting revenge" thing, but he's always been throwing in callbacks to blaxploitation films and stuff like that. To use those motifs to characterize his actual views seems like a gross misreading of his films to me. Django Unchained, along with Hateful Eight, made it pretty clear to me that Quentin gets it-- southern whites weren't all evil, hateful slave-owners. Most of them were poor, disenfranchised and terribly misguided. Django Unchained and Hateful Eight paint a pretty ugly, bizarre, and un-PC vision of America's history that seems pretty close to the truth imo.
Yeah, he actually made the Confederate soldiers have some humanity. Jacksons character even seems to admire the one confederate near the end when talking about how his father was a real leader in the war and how men followed him religiously due to pure admiration. And the debate in the wagon before they got to the inn was good and at the end of it the black guy looked like a blood thirsty savage. And the back and forth between the reb and yank about how rebs were a bunch of hillbillies gone mad and then he came back with how he was reading the papers from DC. I was pleased with how he did all that. The confederates showed their racism but hey, it's not like they weren't actually racist.
>I don't even like this period of history
As far as American history goes, it's one of the most romantic periods we have. War and adventure and all sorts of grandeur and all sorts of character and charm. How could you not like it?
Just got back from seeing it, better than most shit that's coming out but one of Tarantino's weakest films.
Why the fuck he thinks it needed to be as long as it did, he's way too self-indulgent. I could have done without the constant shots of people nailing doors shut and that 5 minute opening shot of Jesus
I liked it. A lot.
I liked the slow pace, the cinematography, even the snowstorm felt real. I liked that the various "deaths" were shot like they were from a horror movie which made for a nice contranst with dialogue heavy rest of the movie. I liked how the flashback was handled, even though at first I thought it was unnecessary. I liked that, despite what /tv/ says there's not a single hero to root for in the film. And I liked the finale.
I didn't like Tim Roth's charachter. I don't if it was written that way or it was Roth's fault. but it felt like a Schultz's impression.
I know this won't mean anything to the average memer here but...
The Revanant was filmed on the digital equivalent of 65mm. Hateful 8 was filmed on film 65mm
Using film over digital only has any relevance at this level- there is no reason to shoot 35mm film ever again
Even then, as this film is a testament to, there isn't enough of a difference to make it anything other than personal preference. Tarantino used 65mm because he was sold by the idea of using the same lens' used in the battle of the bulge and it's a mad mad world.
Honestly, I'd rather use the Arri Alexa 65 myself (the one from the revenant)
The door bit was alwasy entertaining. He likes to show things like that. I liked the one scene when the chick got elbowed in the face and like lickers her lips at Jacksons character and then turned away. In a normal film it would have cut away there, but instead he stayed focused on her for like a minute afterwards as she just looks out the window and kind of flinches and keeps licking the blood. I knew right away he did that specifically because normally it would cut away and not show the several awkward moments afterwards.
I think Tim Roth was wasted in the role, he was most interesting when he dropped the bullshit persona and talked in his normal cockney accent. too bad he got killed shortly after
In case anyone's wondering, in the interview where Nolan interviews Tarantino, he tells us that the biggest influence on him was the Thing and Reservoir Dogs
(and he gets really embarrassed when Nolan asks him about another film he clearly ripped off. And the Great Silence isn't even mentioned...)
But Tarantino came really close to using the unused Morricone score from the Thing he tells us
>Probably Tarantino is imitating PTA with The master(which is an amazing film), they even talk about 70mm and digital in a recent interview.
Are you talking about the interview with PTA and Tarantino together? Great interview
Tarantino literally sperging out while wearing a fedora and PTA trying not to cringe
But yeah, Tarantino literally says it wouldn't have been possible without the Master coming first
This guy gets it.
Film might be a nice alternative but to knock digital is bullshit.
And again, why proclaim about 70 mm and ultra vision if the film is confined to a room for most of it.
If I had one nitpick, it was the retarded nature of the poison. To be perfectly fine then puke up that much blood is retarded. His insides would have been melting for there to be that much blood, but they didn't even know until the blood came spewing out.
>Paced really good
>33 minutes before they reach Minnie's
>le quirky taranmemo voice over
>Not just shooting daisy and every cunt in the building after Ruth dies
>Not overly self-indulgent pleb bait
>killing Kurt was a huge mistake.
This. It killed the entire movie for me as everything was about him bringing that snake cunt to the gallows pole.
After he died I could have not given less of all of your mothers' cum dripping pussy fart about the remaining characters and what would happen to them.
Neither the hillbilly sheriff, nor the nigger nor that lardass madsen and the others.
because he is a huge autistic manchild with a hardon for MUH FILM MUH DAVID LEAN LAWRENCE OF ARABIA WAS SHOT IN 70MM I WANT MY EVIL DEAD CABIN MOVIE TO BE SHOT IN 70MM TOO *RRRRRRIPPPPPS uno grande farto*
It was all too convenient. The Confederate general scene was so forced. He just coincidentally happened to have killed his son, while also coincidentally having been good friends with minnie, while also coincidentally having known Kurt Russel. All his advantages were so convenient.
>He just coincidentally happened to have killed his son
I don't like defending Tarantino, but you're an idiot if you believed that story
>while also coincidentally having known Kurt Russel
He didn't know him. Kurt had heard of him and only paid attention due to the lincoln letter
I just got back from seeing it
First 2/3rds of the movie:
>This is okay i guess, pretty boring for Tarantino's standards...
Final third of the movie, basically from the
MUH BIG BLACK PECKERscene onwards:
>What the fuck was that??
I have no idea what i just watched but that was kind of amazing.
From the screenplay
the old man is in knots. It was worse than his imagination ever dared.
He knows the truth when he hears it. This is how Chester ended his life.
Chin up homophobes, Major loves getting his dick sucked
I agree with you that it isn't a race movie, but I wouldn't go so far as to say there was hardly a racial aspect to the film considering how many times racial remarks played a crucial role in the film (not to mention the final shot).
The best part of the movie is when Mattix gets pissed off when Domergue says her brother led any army. 'MY DADDY LED AN ARMY, AN ARMY FIGHTIN FOR A LOST CAUSE. HE HELD 400 MEN TOGETHER WITH NOTHING BUT THEIR RESPECT IN HIS COMMAND.
Best part of the movie. Goggins sets up everyone else so fucking well. The best parts of the movie are Goggins playing off another actor or when another actor is playing off him
As a visual artist, certain forms of printing can really change the look and feel of an image. This is why we have different kinds of paper, photo paper, and printing techniques. There isn't a "best" way to print everything.
Film and digital have different appearances and lend subtle visual elements to a picture. Its all about picking what you think is going to highlight the elements you want to focus on.
Ttldr: different techniques and materials lend subtle effects to an image. If someone picks one over another, its because they thought it would look best in that form. Its part of the work.
Why did Minnie invite the Mexican in her haberdashery if she hated Mexicans?
Why didn't the gang shoot the Hangman while his back was turned when he was hammering the plank to the door?
Why didn't the gang just shoot Warren immediately after the Hangman was poisoned? They had guns hidden everywhere.
Why did the guy in the basement wait until after Warren shot the Mexican before shooting Warren's balls off?
Why didn't he shoot Warren again immediately afterwards, while he was crawling on the ground?
How did Warren and the Hangman not notice a single member of the gang, even though they have massive bounties on their heads and are reportedly famous?
Why did the gang offer the deal to only the confederate old man, and not the other old man?
Why did Goggins suddenly fall down, only to get back up minutes later?
Why wasn’t Goggins upset after Warren gunned down the General? The movie made such a huge deal about Goggins siding with the General, then dropped the whole thing like it never happened.
Why wouldn't Bob, the Cowboy and the English Hangman be pissed that the Hangman was tossing their pistols down a toilet? Guns cost money and no one's paying them for their loss.
Why did the Hangman even need to toss the guns down the toilet? They were dismantled.
Why did the English Hangman ask to see Daisy's arrest warrant? What was the point? He already knew who she was.
Why did they stake out lines to the barn and outhouse? It didn't play a role in the movie later on.
>Why didn't he shoot Warren again immediately afterwards, while he was crawling on the ground?
Of all of this, this bothered me the most. They went to a flash back and then came back and the situation was inexplicably entirely different.