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What is /tv/'s final verdict on this masterpiece of cinema?
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it is a studentwhole. not a masterpiece.
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it's one of Tarantino's weaker ones but it's still generally above average considering all the capeshit that's coming out lately
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>>64630392
8.5/10
Disney critics hate the movie because of Fartantino
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>>64630392
Corny as fuck. Good thing this was his last one.
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Its a piece of pleb shit
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Probably his best after Resevoir Dogs. None of the characters were weak except maybe the Mexican.

Goggins, Russell, and Leigh were the best part
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Literally Reservoir Dogs
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>>64630392
When did Tarantino stop making art and start making pornography?
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>>64630392
typical fartman trash
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>>64631990
Wrong brother died.
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>>64631926
WELL AINT LUV GRAND
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>>64632031
>le dead communist face
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>>64631965
You mean literally Reservoir Dogs: Western Edition
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>>64632096
And it's great.
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>>64632031

Helooooooooooo, reddit
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Might be his best. Definitely top 2-3
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looks like shit next to The Revenant.
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Quentins 3rd best underneath pulp fiction and resivior dogs.
It feels like a 7/10 but giving the uniqueness of it amongst our time with every movie sjw pandering I'll give it a 15/10 best movie of the decade.

>tfw its the last best performance by Jackson since he's mentally going to die soon
>Channing tatum getting his head blown off
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>>64631990
Peter hitchens is immoral
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i wish the revenant was filmed in 70mm instead of hateful 8
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Saw the 70mm last night and was pleasantly surprised. The three hours zipped by. Definitely a bounce back from Django. It felt like a much more worthy follow up to Inglourious Basterds.
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Why would any white man accept the shit he put in there?
I'm obviously not in the target demographic since he is cucking himself for niggers instead.
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>>64633174
I know I'm pissing into the wind here, but I thought that the racial aspect of the film was only a part of the message. It sucks that most people won't see past it.
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>>64630392
Fartman strikes again
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>>64633308
>Tarantino's last three movies are nothing but racial revenge-porn
>"LOOK PAST IT GUIZE!"
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>>64633612
I really don't like Django but Hateful Eight didn't remind me of it at all. It had a bizarrely anti-violence message that really threw me and had me reflecting on Inglourious Basterds and seeing it in a slightly different light.
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This and Rdogs are the best because they could easily be stage productions
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LINCOLN?
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I dislike all the pretentiousness like the movie divided in chapters, the old school fonts, "tarantinos 8th film", and the fact that it was shot on some old ass film.

Then it was boring for the first half.
>" HAVE YOY HEARD OF _______?"
>YOU MEAN THE __________? THE _________ THAT KILLED 500 BLAH BLAH BLAH
rinse and repeat for 3/4 of the movie.

The whole guy sucking Jackson's dick thing was edgy as fuck.
7/10
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The Thing: Starring the Same Characters from Django Unchained
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>>64633842
That.... Sounds pretty good.
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>>64633778

WROTE A LETTER?
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Stephen > major negro
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>>64633842
You could reduce it to that, or call it the bar scene from Basterds stretched out for three hours, but the bottom line is that it works and is supremely entertaining throughout.
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>>64633308
I really didn't get much out of the film other than the racial element t b h. Judging on how Tarantino goes to these Black Lives Matters rallies, Samuel Jackson's character makes sense. He does a lot of bad things, but is justified by the outcome.
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first 2 hours of the movie is character building. Way to long. Hour is enough. he could seriously trim an hour off of that movie. and it wouldnt skip a beat.
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The last 20 minutes of this movie where Goggins and Jackson just go ham on whats left of the gang was legendary
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>>64634032
Well if you can't look past what Tarantino is doing outside of his movies then it might not be worth talking about it, but the ending to me struck me largely as an anti-violence-and-hate-in-general message rather than simply a anti racism one. Jackson's character is not at all justified by the outcome in my opinion. He has his balls shot off and his last act is brutally murdering a woman. The supposed "heroes" of the movie who we are rooting for aren't heroic, they're just dying on the floor of a dingy cabin and the only thing they care about is inflicting more violence before they go. The whole point of the Lincoln Letter was that it was bullshit, that the nobility that people got from hearing about it and reading it was a lie, and it represented the false pretexts that people use to rationalize their brutality and hate. I'm not discounting that racism isn't a large theme of the movie, but I think that it's just meant to represent another arbitrary excuse for hatred like happening to be on opposite political and ideological sides.
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>>64633778
>>64633933
Mannix is Goggins at his apex.
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>>64630392
C U C K
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anyone else thought of all the references to The Thing?
>the scene putting up poles to get to the shitter
>the scene where they are lined up against a wall and questioned
>Kurt Russell
Could be coincidences but the scene with the poles served virtually no purpose, or am I wrong?
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>>64634387
You don't think it's important that the last 2 characters alive are the black man and a racist who have come to terms with each other? The Lincoln letter was important because Jackson needed something that made him equal, but he had to lie to do it. For him the ends justified the means, because he was at a disadvantage, which obviously relates to BLM.
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>>64634733
I just saw it last night and although I can't be sure I didn't read that The Thing was a big influence on him I definitely got that vibe. Morricone, trapped in a snowstorm paranoia, Russell, that pole scene, by the time the intermission rolled around The Thing was on my mind. But I liked that although he evoked it and played with it's themes he made something that was his own.
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>>64633842
Except The Thing had a great sense of suspense and build-up up until the very last frame.
With Quentin Fartatino it always ends in a sudden, violent cathartic explosion of blood and guts and then...nothing - equivalent to your dick shooting his load and getting limp immediately.

It IS miles better than the liquid shit that was Kill Bill, Death Proof, Inglorious Kikes and Nigger Unchained, but it was still a 40 minutes too long 6/10 flick.
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>>64634733
>having an actor in a movie is a reference
nah, fuck off
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>>64634733

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_yNuPIWEU

Yes it was inspired by the thing, sounds familiar during the vomit scene?
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>>64630392
Pretty good, save for the gore and beating on female character
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>>64634773
Again, the fact that they were the last two characters alive was meaningless. It didn't matter how old they were, how big of badasses they were, how clever they were, or what color there skin was, the bottom line is they were bleeding out in a cabin in the middle of nowhere and their final act was to rationalize a brutal act of violence as a noble tribute to their friend.
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>>64630392
The mystery and buildup was great, so was the overall aesthetic and the soundtrack
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>>64634943
holy shit that's awesome
>>64634821
agreed
>>64634863
well why not
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Uno Farto @ 3,17/10

it's a flick made by a mexican homosexual for african american homosexuals
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I watched it over Christmas with my family, my mommum always nags nags me to download new movies.

The scene where Samuel L Jackson forces the guy to give him a blowjob was a little awkward
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one of his best films
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I absolutely loved it. Maybe not his absolute best, but a damn good time. If you've seen a few of his movies you already knew what to expect. I knew right form the get go it would end with everyone shooting eachother but it didn't ruin it for me. Tarantino is best when it comes to dialogue and the interactions between characters, and in this he delivers. I thought Sam Jacksons scene with the Confederate general and his son was way over the top and carelessly forced in. But I did appreciate how the black guy wasn't exactly the hero and the confederates weren't exactly evil. It did have decent balance. I feel like everyone probably should have hated Jacksons character, he was a scum bag.
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So I haven't followed the news about this movie because Tarantino movies are garbage.

But who leaked the script ?
I remember the ugly guy saying that it was Dern, Madsen or Roth but they're all in the movie ?!
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>>64630392
I've heard that this movie has cuckoldry. You lied to me you fucking faggots.
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>>64635685
it was the evil north korean superh4xx0rs.
they hacked sony and released tortellinis script.
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>>64635719

A Confederate soldier was forced to blow a black guy. That's pretty cucked by the modern use of the word. It wasn't as bad as I anticipated but it was still pretty cucky.
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I also missed how did Roth character know about the letter. Explain?
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>>64635800
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>>64635825
Well, it's rapey thus not cuckoldry.
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>>64635872
that's what a nigger or a cuck call it
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>>64635872

By the meme use of the word, it's cucky as fuck.
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>>64630392
Horrible in my opinion. killing Kurt was a huge mistake.
and I found the use of 70mm really pointless and it was just a selling gimmick for the movie.
Probably Tarantino is imitating PTA with The master(which is an amazing film), they even talk about 70mm and digital in a recent interview.
Tarantino now relies in his trademarks instead of trying to do something new, Which is a shame.
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9/10.
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>>64636050
>killing Kurt was a huge mistake
Why?
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>>64636128
that's just me. I love Kurt and expected more of him, instead almost all the movie moves around Warren.
We even got references to the thing, which don't go anywhere.
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>>64630392
*farts*
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6/10 overwhelmingly mediocre
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YOU HAVE TO NAIL THE DOOR SHUT!
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>>64630392
lot of bad casting imo

channing tatum seemed very out of place and just barely couldn't get his accent right

also the sheriff guy was absolutely retarded. terrible actor with an overblown accent

mr. orange was a little over the top as well.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>64636543
>channing tatum seemed very out of place

He was one of my favorite characters. The only one who seemed out of place to me was the Mexican. Who decided that accent was good? Did they intentionally make it absolutely terrible? Was it some kind of inside joke?
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>>64636630
i forgot to mention the mexican but yeah he was bad too

the only one that really seemed like he belonged was the confederate general
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>>64630392
Pretty solid compared to his other stuff. Definitely not his worst movie, but the only movie he's done where I felt like he was bringing nothing new to the table at all. I read a review that said it seemed like he was spinning his wheels, and that captures it pretty well for me.

Morricone's score was great, Walton Goggins and Jennifer Jason Leigh were great. Roth, Jackson, and Kurt Russell have all been good in Tarantino's other movies but weren't as good in this one (but Kurt was pretty good desu).
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>>64633308
There was hardly a racial aspect to the film. It drew a lot from the social and political climate of the time, and obviously race is a pretty big factor as far as that's concerned, but it's not like this was a "race movie". For being so enamored with African-American culture, Tarantino actually has an extremely nuanced and even-handed understanding of slavery and the time period in general. Felt the same way about Inglourious Basterds. Framing the minorities as the underdogs getting these big revenge moments has more to do with the movies he's drawing his influences from than his actual views, I think.
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People talking in a room: The Movie
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Why did not Channing shoot Samuel a few times instead of one shot to the balls?
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I only saw it once but really debating seeing it again, when the credits rolled with that song it really hit me. I'm still confused on if the message was only about race, or if it was something else? I don't even like this period of history but this was done so well.

As a side note, I actually turned into a meme seeing this. A Tarantino movie alone at 10:30 am it was like I was a 4chan post.
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>>64636050
Movie does get less entertaining when Kurt Russell gets killed. I was hoping he would stay alive until the end. Kill him off by all means but he was the most interesting character and he could have even escaped
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Felt aimless. Like he rookie the scraps of race from Django and put it in this, then re-watched The Thing and Reservoir Dogs (which he stroked himself to) and finished the third draft. From there he called it finished, phones up old friends and made a three hour long gab fest to turned into a murder mystery after 90 minutes.
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A very fun Tarantino movie. Great for what it is but it isn't one of my favorites from him. Made a quick video review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZPjlOcZv1M
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>>64636930
I don't think the movie is really primarily trying to make a point about race.

Tarantino likes to play up the whole shlocky "minorities getting revenge" thing, but he's always been throwing in callbacks to blaxploitation films and stuff like that. To use those motifs to characterize his actual views seems like a gross misreading of his films to me. Django Unchained, along with Hateful Eight, made it pretty clear to me that Quentin gets it-- southern whites weren't all evil, hateful slave-owners. Most of them were poor, disenfranchised and terribly misguided. Django Unchained and Hateful Eight paint a pretty ugly, bizarre, and un-PC vision of America's history that seems pretty close to the truth imo.
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That bromance between Goggins and Jackson was great, regardless of how ridiculous it was given the personality difference.
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>>64636898

Yeah, he actually made the Confederate soldiers have some humanity. Jacksons character even seems to admire the one confederate near the end when talking about how his father was a real leader in the war and how men followed him religiously due to pure admiration. And the debate in the wagon before they got to the inn was good and at the end of it the black guy looked like a blood thirsty savage. And the back and forth between the reb and yank about how rebs were a bunch of hillbillies gone mad and then he came back with how he was reading the papers from DC. I was pleased with how he did all that. The confederates showed their racism but hey, it's not like they weren't actually racist.
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>>64636543
Acting felt like the actors were on stage rather than a film.

Also QT shot on film and boasted about 70 mm yet he confines his film to inside for 80%. Why?
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>>64636930
>I don't even like this period of history

As far as American history goes, it's one of the most romantic periods we have. War and adventure and all sorts of grandeur and all sorts of character and charm. How could you not like it?
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Just got back from seeing it, better than most shit that's coming out but one of Tarantino's weakest films.

Why the fuck he thinks it needed to be as long as it did, he's way too self-indulgent. I could have done without the constant shots of people nailing doors shut and that 5 minute opening shot of Jesus
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Waiting for Mike and Jay's opinions before forming mine.
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I liked it. A lot.

I liked the slow pace, the cinematography, even the snowstorm felt real. I liked that the various "deaths" were shot like they were from a horror movie which made for a nice contranst with dialogue heavy rest of the movie. I liked how the flashback was handled, even though at first I thought it was unnecessary. I liked that, despite what /tv/ says there's not a single hero to root for in the film. And I liked the finale.

I didn't like Tim Roth's charachter. I don't if it was written that way or it was Roth's fault. but it felt like a Schultz's impression.
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>>64637681
are you being ironic or do you think like that?
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>>64632895
I know this won't mean anything to the average memer here but...
The Revanant was filmed on the digital equivalent of 65mm. Hateful 8 was filmed on film 65mm

Using film over digital only has any relevance at this level- there is no reason to shoot 35mm film ever again
Even then, as this film is a testament to, there isn't enough of a difference to make it anything other than personal preference. Tarantino used 65mm because he was sold by the idea of using the same lens' used in the battle of the bulge and it's a mad mad world.
Honestly, I'd rather use the Arri Alexa 65 myself (the one from the revenant)
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>>64634733
half the soundtrack is unused music from the thing so yes.
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>>64637671

The door bit was alwasy entertaining. He likes to show things like that. I liked the one scene when the chick got elbowed in the face and like lickers her lips at Jacksons character and then turned away. In a normal film it would have cut away there, but instead he stayed focused on her for like a minute afterwards as she just looks out the window and kind of flinches and keeps licking the blood. I knew right away he did that specifically because normally it would cut away and not show the several awkward moments afterwards.
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>>64637695
I think Tim Roth was wasted in the role, he was most interesting when he dropped the bullshit persona and talked in his normal cockney accent. too bad he got killed shortly after
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In case anyone's wondering, in the interview where Nolan interviews Tarantino, he tells us that the biggest influence on him was the Thing and Reservoir Dogs
(and he gets really embarrassed when Nolan asks him about another film he clearly ripped off. And the Great Silence isn't even mentioned...)
But Tarantino came really close to using the unused Morricone score from the Thing he tells us

>>64636050
>Probably Tarantino is imitating PTA with The master(which is an amazing film), they even talk about 70mm and digital in a recent interview.
Are you talking about the interview with PTA and Tarantino together? Great interview
Tarantino literally sperging out while wearing a fedora and PTA trying not to cringe
But yeah, Tarantino literally says it wouldn't have been possible without the Master coming first
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>>64637717
This guy gets it.
Film might be a nice alternative but to knock digital is bullshit.
And again, why proclaim about 70 mm and ultra vision if the film is confined to a room for most of it.
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>>64630392
Just saw it a few hours ago

Pretty great overall cant have anything bad to say about it. It was paced really good and overall it stood out as a film i would see again.
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If I had one nitpick, it was the retarded nature of the poison. To be perfectly fine then puke up that much blood is retarded. His insides would have been melting for there to be that much blood, but they didn't even know until the blood came spewing out.
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If Kurt Russell knew who daisy was and she had the 10 grand bounty how didn't he recognize the rest of the gang?
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>>64638260
>Paced really good
>33 minutes before they reach Minnie's
>le quirky taranmemo voice over
>Not just shooting daisy and every cunt in the building after Ruth dies
>Not overly self-indulgent pleb bait
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>>64638470
It's simple: he did not know how they look. He might have known Tatum though but he was hiding.
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Pretty good film. I ended up hating Jackson's character quite a lot, although these films usually don't have 'good' characters, just winners and losers.
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>>64635855
>making someone you hate suck your dick is revenge
That's just some gay porn, why would anyone want to see this?
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>>64636050
>killing Kurt was a huge mistake.
This. It killed the entire movie for me as everything was about him bringing that snake cunt to the gallows pole.
After he died I could have not given less of all of your mothers' cum dripping pussy fart about the remaining characters and what would happen to them.
Neither the hillbilly sheriff, nor the nigger nor that lardass madsen and the others.
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A great slow burn, the only thing that I really didn't like was the Tarantino narration in certain parts, other than that I thought it was really great
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>>64637616
because he is a huge autistic manchild with a hardon for MUH FILM MUH DAVID LEAN LAWRENCE OF ARABIA WAS SHOT IN 70MM I WANT MY EVIL DEAD CABIN MOVIE TO BE SHOT IN 70MM TOO *RRRRRRIPPPPPS uno grande farto*
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Great how Jackson hustles his way from nigger to the alpha of the room.
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>>64639056

It was all too convenient. The Confederate general scene was so forced. He just coincidentally happened to have killed his son, while also coincidentally having been good friends with minnie, while also coincidentally having known Kurt Russel. All his advantages were so convenient.
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>>64639213
>He just coincidentally happened to have killed his son
I don't like defending Tarantino, but you're an idiot if you believed that story

>while also coincidentally having known Kurt Russel
He didn't know him. Kurt had heard of him and only paid attention due to the lincoln letter
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>>64639318
They had that steak dinner together 8 months ago - they did know each other
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>>64638625
>not saying cum dripping queef


And you had such a good curse going too...
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>>64639318
>you're an idiot if you believed that story

I had suspected it was all a lie, and I hope it was.
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I just got back from seeing it

First 2/3rds of the movie:
>This is okay i guess, pretty boring for Tarantino's standards...
Final third of the movie, basically from the MUH BIG BLACK PECKER scene onwards:
>What the fuck was that??

I have no idea what i just watched but that was kind of amazing.
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>>64639512
From the screenplay

CU GEN.SMITHERS
the old man is in knots. It was worse than his imagination ever dared.

He knows the truth when he hears it. This is how Chester ended his life.


Chin up homophobes, Major loves getting his dick sucked
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>>64634978
What's wrong with beating females on screen?
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>>64636898
I agree with you that it isn't a race movie, but I wouldn't go so far as to say there was hardly a racial aspect to the film considering how many times racial remarks played a crucial role in the film (not to mention the final shot).
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>>64636898
The best part of the movie is when Mattix gets pissed off when Domergue says her brother led any army. 'MY DADDY LED AN ARMY, AN ARMY FIGHTIN FOR A LOST CAUSE. HE HELD 400 MEN TOGETHER WITH NOTHING BUT THEIR RESPECT IN HIS COMMAND.

Best part of the movie. Goggins sets up everyone else so fucking well. The best parts of the movie are Goggins playing off another actor or when another actor is playing off him
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>>64640885
movie reaffirmed goggins based status

he's fairly typecast at this point, but dialogue with him is so enjoyable to watch

love that fucking guy
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>>64630392
Wait a sec, is this movie almost 2 years old already?
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>>64640885
>>64640944
I've always appreciated him, but this was my favorite performance of his by a long shot. The chemistry he had with Jackson was great.
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>>64637277
He shows both sides of it though. He showed Mandingo boxing. and a slave being eaten to death. He showed the race at its absolute worst
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>>64637717
As a visual artist, certain forms of printing can really change the look and feel of an image. This is why we have different kinds of paper, photo paper, and printing techniques. There isn't a "best" way to print everything.

Film and digital have different appearances and lend subtle visual elements to a picture. Its all about picking what you think is going to highlight the elements you want to focus on.

Ttldr: different techniques and materials lend subtle effects to an image. If someone picks one over another, its because they thought it would look best in that form. Its part of the work.
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>>64634978
>beating on female character

That was the best part. You some sort of scawny desperate virgin boy who thinks pandering to girls gets you laid?
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>>64630392

Why did Minnie invite the Mexican in her haberdashery if she hated Mexicans?

Why didn't the gang shoot the Hangman while his back was turned when he was hammering the plank to the door?

Why didn't the gang just shoot Warren immediately after the Hangman was poisoned? They had guns hidden everywhere.

Why did the guy in the basement wait until after Warren shot the Mexican before shooting Warren's balls off?

Why didn't he shoot Warren again immediately afterwards, while he was crawling on the ground?

How did Warren and the Hangman not notice a single member of the gang, even though they have massive bounties on their heads and are reportedly famous?

Why did the gang offer the deal to only the confederate old man, and not the other old man?

Why did Goggins suddenly fall down, only to get back up minutes later?

Why wasn’t Goggins upset after Warren gunned down the General? The movie made such a huge deal about Goggins siding with the General, then dropped the whole thing like it never happened.

Why wouldn't Bob, the Cowboy and the English Hangman be pissed that the Hangman was tossing their pistols down a toilet? Guns cost money and no one's paying them for their loss.

Why did the Hangman even need to toss the guns down the toilet? They were dismantled.

Why did the English Hangman ask to see Daisy's arrest warrant? What was the point? He already knew who she was.

Why did they stake out lines to the barn and outhouse? It didn't play a role in the movie later on.
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>>64642457
>Why didn't he shoot Warren again immediately afterwards, while he was crawling on the ground?

Of all of this, this bothered me the most. They went to a flash back and then came back and the situation was inexplicably entirely different.
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>>64632096
reservoir djangos
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