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Just watched this, and something I don't get: why didn't he get the death penalty?
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Nobody wants to talk about this shitshow?
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Why didn't you get the edge penalty?
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>>64625681
What's that?
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What is he looking at /tv/?
My guess is Wrestlemania.
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>>64625227
No DP in Wisconsin
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>>64626063
100 years of posting on /b/ and telling all your friends how you are part of the deepweb
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April 10th yeah?
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>>64626138
Shame. True justice will never be served then.
>>64626112
The latest Adam Curtis movie.
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>>64626170
...yeah
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It doesn't make sense.

Avery is talented enough to wipe all traces of the victim's DNA from his properties, despite allegedly shooting her in the head...

.. Yet I'm supposed to believe he is stupid enough to leave her remains by his bedroom window, leave her vehicle on his property (after having put her dead body in there to leave some convenient blood stains for the cops to find), and to COMMIT SUCH A SERIOUS CRIME AFTER HAVING EXPERIENCED HOW SHIT BEING LOCKED UP FOR 18 YRS CAN BE DESPITE FINDING A NEW WAIFU AND SOUNDING HAPPY IN HIS NEW LIFE.. ALSO WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF 400K - 36 MILLION DOLLARS IN COMPENSATION.

You gotta be some kinda brainwashed police fanboy retard to support the state in this case.
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Why is this such a big deal?
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>>64626248
The only person defending the police and the state is Ken Kratz shitposting on /tv/
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>>64626248
Or... they didn't find the crime scene and it didn't happen as Brendan said. The prosecution took the wrong route trying to match the evidence to the confession, but I don't believe any of the conspiracy non-sense. There's too much evidence against Critter.
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>>64626252
It Redpilled a bunch of redditors on police power abuse.
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>>64626181

yeah?
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>>64626248
>documentary made by two redditors totally biased "lol fucc da police"
>Avery served 18 years (10 years being for stolen firearm.) The guy wrote letters to his wife and children about how he was going to murder their mother, clearly showing his brain is not all there after being locked up that long.
>He gets out of prison and freaks out at all the new stuff in his life, lives in an ice shack for weeks.
>The documentary conveniently leaves out that he called the picture place 3 times, every time requesting for Teresa. Her boss and co-workers all say he called the office and her with multiple *67 calls.

>TL:DR Avery is guilty, documentary is reddit bias
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>>64626338
Nah, this documentary pandered to liberals who think the world has stacked the deck against the poor. The redpill is that law enforcement tends to be biased against repeated offenders. Oh fucking well.
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>>64626248
Nah, you just gotta be the average everyday God-fearing Republican who loves the whole Constitution except from the preamble, amendments 1, 3 and up and the whole part about how verdicts are not supposed to be based on emotion.
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>>64626338
Weird how it's /pol/ defending the police nowadays. See >>64626399 & >>64626456
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>>64626399
>>64626456
DUDE PRIZE LMAO
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>>64626474
Not /pol/ at all, i don't favor the police, in fact i make a point to stay away from them as much as i can. I'm just telling you stuff this documentary leaves out to paint a "gentle giant" "big brother" picture of Steven.
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I think people are hung up on whether Avery or Dassey did it and the truth is none of that matters. The show isn't really about whodunit it's more of a slow motion nightmare about being railroaded. I can't imagine how anyone thinks they got a fair trial.
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Shitty cops, shitty lawyers, shitty judges, shitty jurors. I will ever enter the state of Wisconsin.
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>>64626399
>le i am going to look like a total retard because it spites reddit somehow

I'm tired of this meme.
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>>64626520

everyone in that documentary was shit, honestly
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>>64626606
epic frogpost meme man! #freeavery
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>>64626520
...and I think everyone interested in the case is well aware of what got left out of the documentary (his animal cruelty, his history with women) but non of that is really relevant when talking about the actual case.
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>>64626701
>his animal cruelty, his history with women
Both of these were covered in the documentary
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>>64626472
But the whole defense was based on theories and appeals to emotion. "Poor people boo hoo." The prosecution did a sloppy job but the evidence was on their side.
>>64626474
I have problems with the police but they're not the cardboard villains liberals treat them as.
>>64626522
I don't think he was railroaded. And if people knew that he was guilty, this documentary would never have kicked up so much dirt. So I think it's worthy of discussion.
>>64626561
Don't forget shitty convict who murdered a woman. It's all shitty here, but I'll side with the state here.
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>>64626138
Yup. Dahmer did not get the death penalty either. But he was murdered in jail.
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>>64626701
I see what you are saying anon, but im just informing people that the dude did 10 years for a gun charge. More than half his 18 years for a crime he actually did. He's not completely innocent here. The document makes him look like a small little boy who the big bad police are bullying. The dude is for sure guilty
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>>64625490
There are at least 3 MAM threads up every day so I do think people want to discuss it.
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>>64626739
Not really. They made it sound like SA had unintentionally torched a cat when he actually poured gasoline over it. And they left out shit like letters sent from prison to his children saying he'll kill mom. But like I said, none of that really matters when talking about the actual case.
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>>64626739
Not in a sufficient way. It's glossed over. Most people who have seen the documentary don't even know that six of the eighteen years he served in prison was for a crime he did commit. The alleged rape affidavits weren't in the documentary as far as I can remember.
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>>64626399
>keep posting kratz copypasta about how doc was one sided
>don't bother hearing the other side to kratz's claims
Strang addresses the phone calls at 8:39. Two witnesses from Auto Trader put Kratz's phone call theories to rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIBAoe8hNPk#t=519s
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>>64626937
>they left out shit like letters sent from prison to his children saying he'll kill mom

That was in the documentary. The documentary did state that he trew a cat over a fire not that he poured gas on it.
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you know...
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>>64626474

Anybody who beats blacks is OK in my book.
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>>64626112
girl getting eaten by alligator
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>>64626957
>That was in the documentary
Really, where/when? Genuine question. I thought I saw that somewhere else.
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>>64627015
First or second episode. It's also mentioned in a later episode by his attornies I believe.
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>>64626399
go home to your nymphs
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>>64626950
Yeah, but going to the Avery property is different than going to see Steve Avery. Slick lawyer trick there, Strang.
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>>64626474
>>64626513
>>64626606
>>64626950
>>64627053
shills ITT (They signed avery's petition lol)
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>>64627006
I'm going to write Brendan in prison and ask him to explain what he meant by this
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>>64626957
I think the problem is that the documentary downplays these incidents while omitting others. Doctor Love did acknowledge that the cat burning was touched on in the show, but said that they didn't give the full story.
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>>64627102
nah. dudes probably guilty. the point is that theres no/not enough valid evidence to put him into jail. you cant just put someone into jail because you assume that he might be guilty
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>>64626957
So many people are claiming that shit that was in the series wasn't in the series that I'm convinced most of the bootlickers in these threads haven't even seen it. I don't even bother replying.
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>It's a Brendan calls his mom from jail episode
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>>64627460
mom im stupid its not my fault ;_;
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>>64627262
Likewise you can't say certain evidence isn't valid based on a conspiracy theory. Avery is definitely guilty as I see it. The case has its problems, so I'm not opposed to a retrial. But that is based on technicality, not reasonable doubt.
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>Steven Avery is innocent! Fuck the police!
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>>64626850
Again, even the guilty deserve a fair trial. It's the cornerstone of our entire justice system. I think the cops honestly believed Avery did it, and they would do whatever it took - including planting Teresa's keys in his home and moving her car into his salvage yard, moving her ashes from one location to another - to prove it. More than that, I think Dassey was the one actually innocent. They coerced a confession out of him to get to Avery. He was a dumb as hell means to an end with the shittiest lawyer imaginable. The burden of proof is high, and the state clearly overreached, which is just as wrong and evil when done to a guilty man as when it’s done to an innocent one.
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>>64625227

Obviously a piece-of-shit, lying, sociopath that is clearly guilty.

Cops were still dodgy though.
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>>64627513
>I love the police
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If the cops didn't plant the evidence, how come his blood was tampered with?
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>>64627628
inb4 meme responses claiming that's how the lab does it when they actually said they didn't
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i live in wisconsin. its not so bad. the internet sucks, the women are plump, the hicks and hmong are all over the place. but at least we dont have niggers. Also milwaukee isn't apart of wisconsin. its basically shitcago. also go pack go.
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>>64627628
CUZ EVEN THOUGH HE'S GUILTY THE POLICE DECIDED TO PLANT EVIDENCE FOR SOME REASON. I MEAN, THEY KNEW HE DID IT RIGHT, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THEY KNEW IT WITHOUT SEEING ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE, SO THEY HAD TO PLANT IT.

GO BACK TO REDDIT KEK
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>A lying, psychopathic paedophile who torched an animal alive; sexually molested his nephew; kidnapped, raped, tortured, stabbed and shot a woman is sent to jail for life
>"b.. b.. but the police CHEATED!"

kek
I'm glad that sickos going to rot.
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I'M YELLIN FREE B. DASSEY TIL MY THROAT IS RASPY
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>>64627716
>paedophile
>sexually molested his nephew

what? is there a source for that?
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>>64627088
But she obviously didn't have any issue with going to the property despite apparently being "harassed" by Steven Avery.

Also, she wasn't being hired to take photographs by any other member of the Avery family so it's fair to say she was going to meet Steven
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>>64627523
>Again, even the guilty deserve a fair trial.
Sure, and I'm not opposed to a retrial. But it wasn't as unfair as you people make out. It was just sloppy.
> I think the cops honestly believed Avery did it,
I think anyone would think that. He is the obvious suspect and has a history of violence.
>and they would do whatever it took - including planting Teresa's keys in his home and moving her car into his salvage yard,
Conspiracy theory. It's cute but doesn't carry weight in a courtroom.

>moving her ashes from one location to another - to prove it.
Think about what you're suggesting for a moment. A conspiracy spanning two police districts.
>More than that, I think Dassey was the one actually innocent.
I can see how you might think that from seeing the doc, but having reviewed stuff on my own, I would say he is guilty. His trial was bullshit, but confessions are hard to shake.
>They coerced a confession out of him to get to Avery.
No they didn't.
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>>64627628
>>64627646

It's like you don't even want to discuss anything and would rather shitpost loudly until anyone who stands in your way ignores you.
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>>64627716
>you will never be this edgy just to be contrarian
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>>64625227
bratishka?
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>>64627751
lel of course not leave this edge lord alone'
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>>64627628
>>64627667
>The police tampered with this blood sample to set up an innocent man for murder
Prove it.
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If we all were under surveillance all the time this whole mess wouldn't have happened.
Save us based Google and NSA.
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>redditors are unironically jumping to Avery's defence from behind their computers, to 'combat' injustice after watching a one-sided documentary.
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>>64627755
Or... she had a problem with it but it wasn't so bad that she wouldn't go to the Avery place.
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American white people are so fucking ugly
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>>64627776
Da ti zhe poehavshiy
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Please do not call "people" from the midwest "white" or "American". It's offensive to the rest of us.
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>Looking at it now do you think you got lucky?

>Yeah... Well not lucky, God showed us the way I do believe that.

Haha oh wow.
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>>64627775
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>Cops risk their careers to put an escalating scumbag behind bars to protect the people from him
>The people hate them for it

Where were you when you realized Lenk and Colborn were Batman and Robin?
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>>64627716
are u sorry?
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>>64627967
are you having fun?
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What are some other documentaries like this?
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>>64627967
You mean symbols of renegade fascism? Since The Dark Knight Returns, probably.
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>>64627751
From the transcript of Dassey's phone call with his mother:

M. Did he make you do this?
B. Ya.
M. Then why didn't you tell him that.
B. Tell him what
M. That Steven made you do it. You know he made you do a lot of things.
B. Ya, I told them that. I even told them about Steven touching me and that.
M. What do you mean touching you?
B. He would grab me somewhere where I was uncomfortable.
M. Brendan I am your mother.
B. Ya.
M. Why didn't you come to me? Why didn't you tell me? Was this all before this happened?
B. What do you mean?
M. All before this happened, did he touch you before all this stuff happened to you.
B. Ya.
M. Why didn't you come to me, because then he would have been gone then and this wouldn't have happened.
B. Ya ..
M. Yes, and you would still be here with me.
B. Yes, Well you know I did it.
M. Huh
B. You know he always touched us and that.
M. I didn't think there. He used to horse around with you guys.
B. Ya, but you remember he would always do stuff to Brian and that.
M. What do you mean.
B. Well he would like fake pumping him
M. Goofing around
B. Ya but, like that one time when he was going with what's her name... Jessicas sister.
M. Teresa?
B. Ya. That one day when she was over, Steven and Blaine and Brian and I was downstairs and Steven was touching her and that.

>>64627780
>>64627775
You're defending a paedophile rapist murderer and IM the edgy edgy one?!
Back to Reddit champ.
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>>64627751
Phone call between Brendan and his mother that he didn't know was being recorded. Steven molested all those kids. These faggots don't want to mention that though.

Real nice guy, lets release him today amirite? Fucking cuck scumbags, if he does get released I hope he rapes and murders every single one of you faggots that made excuses for him.
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>>64628024
The Thin Blue Line. And in that one the guy is actually innocent, not a murdering rapist dindu.
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>>64628082
Yeah?
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>>64627999
I'm just spreading the truth. Something you all apparently have a problem coming to terms with.

DA AVERYS IS GOOD BOIS DEY DINDU NUFFIN DEY IS JUS MISUNDERSTOOD!
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>>64628091

I think Thin Blue Line is the only other documentary like this I seem before Making a Murderer.
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>>64628082
So we're trusting what comes out of Dassey's mouth now?
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>>64626248
Don't forget:
>somehow transported her body to a separate location with no one noticing
>burned it
>collected the remains, drove back to his trailer and dumped them in his own fire pit
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>>64628082
Oh wow, a taped confession from the guy who repeats everything the police tell him to. Compelling.
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>>64627622
>>64627834
So the brother did it right? I legit thought that was the way the documentary was headed but I guess that would be kind of defamatory. They also implied her ex-boyfriend was a bit sketchy - isn't it a serial killer trait to take an interest in the investigation/case even though you should have no logical reason to be involved in it?

What were their motives though?
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>>64628148

Holy shit. You are just fucking amazing. What's your tumblr?
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>>64628132
Jinx miniseries as well
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>>64628082
The kid can only string words together when he's talking to his mom. Otherwise he's basically a mute. It's fucking infuriating.
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>>64628180
>It's OK to trust Dassey but not Avery.
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People keep saying whether Avery is innocent or guilty doesn't matter, but if the documentary mentioned the molestation bit and the two alleged rape affidavits, no one would be signing petitions for a pardon.
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>>64628166
That's not a confession, that's a conversation.
>>64628148
>I only trust when he says he's innocent
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>>64628235
Why would anyone trust Avery? Are you an actual fucking retarded person?

Holy shit, I just figured it out. The people defending Avery are actually dumber than Dassey. That's what's happening.
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>>64628274

Dassey is an actual retarded person though.
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>That is correct
>That is correct
>That is correct
>That is correct

ffs why can't they just fucking say 'yes'?
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>>64628168
>What were their motives though?

Maybe they were gay for each other and Teresa found out? I dunno, the ex is a male nurse and aren't they usually weird serial killers?
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Somebody just tell me:

Is this guy, Steven Avery, innocent or not?

Is the documentary biased?

Is it only extreme edge lords that think he is guilty?
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>>64628274
You're just now realizing this?
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>>64628289
So is anyone defending Avery.
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>>64628306
No.

Yes.

No.
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>>64628274
Why wouldn't I trust Avery? He pleaded guilty to all his previous crimes until the rape charge, in which he pleaded Not Guilty and turned out to be innocent. He has no history of lying... unlike your boy Dassey who is.. inconsistent.
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>>64628306
>Is this guy, Steven Avery, innocent or not?
Guilty as fuck.
>Is the documentary biased?
Biased as fuck.
>Is it only extreme edge lords
Nah, a lot of people who like the documentary think he's probably guilty too.
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>>64628382
>>64628389
Reminder that whodunit is not the point of the documentary and only idiots think it is.
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>>64628306

There are too many important facts missing for conviction like where she was murdered

It feels biased by not including all the facts

People who can't argue their point worth shit are the edge lords
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>tens of thousands of innocents in the prison system
>only try to exonerate one because you saw a "documentary" filled with one-sided reporting

top tier plebs, the lot of ya.
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>>64628382
>>64628389

Does it leave out a lot of evidence? I've heard some people saying that.

Is it still worth watching, I heard it does a pretty good job of exploiting the criminal justice system.
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>>64628422
I know that and I've addressed it numerous times. See:
>>64628242
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>>64628422

I guess you know what the point of the documentary is better than the two women who made it, right anon?
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>>64628262
The detectives told him to tell his mom those things. Wigger admitted it in ep. 9 or 10.
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>>64628227
You're describing pretty much everyone on this site.
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>>64628306
>Is this guy, Steven Avery, innocent or not?

Who knows? He didn't get a fair trial.

>Is the documentary biased?

Not really. But it does leave out some minor details.

>Is it only extreme edge lords that think he is guilty?

Edge lords and cop lovers.
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>>64628438
It leaves out tons of evidence and pushes it's own slanted agenda, which is the agenda of two tumblr lesbians. That being said it's a fun watch, especially if you know anything about the criminal justice system.
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>>64628461
Similar to Serial, whether he's guilty or not doesn't matter. It's whether or not it was proven beyond reasonable doubt. The multiple burn sites and the fact that they never found the murder site are enough to convince me there's quite a bit of reasonable doubt.
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>>64628306
>Is this guy, Steven Avery, innocent or not?
Nobody knows. Anybody who thinks they do is an idiot.
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>>64628478
>Not really. But it does leave out some minor details.

lel you fucking lying cuck

>Calls other people edgy while being all "FUK DA POLEEC!"

Why don't you leave and come back when you grow some pubic hair.
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>Ken Kratz is STILL shitposting about how guilty SA is on /tv/
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>>64628425
>There are too many important facts missing for conviction like where she was murdered
That's the main thing missing from the case, but people have been convicted for much less. The problem here isn't a lack of evidence but the sloppy work done by the state.
>It feels biased by not including all the facts
So we can't convict someone unless we have perfect knowledge? Great idea.
>People who can't argue their point worth shit are the edge lords
I can run you true crime beginners into the ground.
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>>64628524
To add to this, I don't understand why the multiple burn sites weren't focused on more. It seems like a huge deal when establishing a timeline.
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>>64628298
Spurned lover? Pathological narcissist? He said they were together for 5 years, some people just can't let that go. From the first moment you saw him on screen during the search he just immediately stuck out like a sore thumb. He was cold, confident and placed himself immediately at the centre of attention. He was the guy organising the search parties. He was the guy telling people where to look. He was the one coordinating everything. Why? Why would an ex-boyfriend be the natural person to assume this role? Wouldn't the brother or a family member or even a close friend much more sense? Why was he even there? He has the perfect window of opportunity and a good cover for doing stuff like moving and mutilating the body, moving the car, hiding the car and then ultimately directing two women straight to it in 5 minutes in a junkyard with like 10,000 vehicles.
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I was late but Kratz was doing a live interview minutes ago on yahoo
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>>64628552
Its seems I touched a nerve with you, Mr. Edgelord.

Get well soon.
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Start using a general name for these threads so we can filter you idiots or we're going to start spamming them.

First and final warning.
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>>64628438
I wish that the omitted evidence had been included in the show. I don’t find most of it that decisive - some of it is hearsay, some of it is circumstantial, some of it could have been planted - but I think that by being more skeptical of Avery’s innocence the show could have actually made its point about even the guilty deserving a fair trial harder.
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>>64628601
Based Kratz.
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>>64628436
Not many people here (if any) think he should be exonerated. Don't see how "tens of thousands of innocents in the prison system" have to do with a discussion about a documentary on a board about movies, TV shows and documentaries.
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>>64628576

It was asked if the documentary was biased, which is true since the filmmakers didn't include Avery and Halbach's prior relationship.

I have no idea why you are so mad though.
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>>64628631
I'm sorry we're interrupting your hundred Star Wars threads.
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>>64628644
The documentary is trying to make a more sweeping statement about America's judicial system. The filmmakers said so themselves.
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>the police are good guys, they dindu nuffin
>mfw
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>>64628608

He's right though, you're either an edgy kid, a pot smoking suburban white OWS fag that probably has dreadlocks or an ironic mustache, or some shitskin who got beat up by the cops. Your opinion doesn't matter and you're human garbage.
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>>64628631
>we
>we are lenonymous
>we are legion
>we do not legive
>we do not leget
>expect le

Back to /v/eddit star wars cancer shit
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Fucking spineless jurors. Literally just one of them had to hold out, how did 3 manage to convince 9 people to go for guilty?
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>>64628631
>or we're going to start spamming them

Are you threatening me? I'll have you speak to my lawyer
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>>64628664

>Our cancer is another color so it's better!

Enjoy your last thread.
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>>64628644
>Not many people here (if any) think he should be exonerated

Are you retarded? The entire thread is literally filled with "HE DINDU NUFFIN" retards defending this psychopath
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>>64628631
>we
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>>64628726
Fucking hell, you're a literal child.
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>>64627460
ohkay
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>>64628765
It's only one thread in the catalog most of the time, so yes, our cancer is better and bearable.
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>>64628715
Said no one.
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>>64628726
t. Ken Kratz
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>>64628510
>agenda of two tumblr lesbians
>to exonerate two rural American CIS White males
Next stop: join the Oregon militia!

They've already said they don't care if he's innocent or guilty.
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It turns out it's not those who think Avery is innocent OR those that think Avery is guilty that are the edge lords.

It's this lonely chucklefuck
>>64628765
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Will Brendan ever get to watch Wrestlemania 2005?
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>>64628576
>but people have been convicted for much less
Sell me your car for $1000 anon. After all, cars have been sold for much less, right?
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>>64628829
It's not like he missed something. He should be glad that we didn't have to see the decline of the WWE.
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>>64628726
lol, wrong on all points, Mr. Edgelord.

Project your baseless caricatures somewhere else.
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>>64628815
I can't even comprehend the amount of pussy that guy gets looking like that and having a job in Wisconsin.
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>>64628829
>Will Brendan ever get to watch Wrestlemania 2005?

Feels bad man
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>>64628817
No shit you idiot, their agenda is to destroy this country like all tumblr SJW dykes. You all fell for their bait too.
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>>64628882
There's no way he and the hot female reporter didn't fuck.
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>>64625227
You realize even in states that have the death penalty, it's usually reserved for cases which are undisputed. There was reasonable doubt in this case.
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>>64628865

>Current year
>Driving the petrol Jew
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>>64628815
Handsome newsmen general? Handsome newsmen general.
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I don't understand how you can watch this and still think anything other than a police setup
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>>64628829
At least maybe he got his dick wet in that tight Halbach pussy.
>>64628865
That's not my point. I'm saying there's actually a lot of evidence in this case, and while they're missing the crime scene, the rest of the evidence is strong enough to convict. A lot of people have just gotten a bit carried away with conspiracy theories and don't accept the evidence.
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>>64628947
>it's usually reserved for cases which are undisputed.
>implying
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>>64628983
>petrol

White trash poor Aussie detected
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>tfw you come into these threads and argue on both sides just to piss people off

And you'll never know if it's me you're replying to or not.
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>>64625227
Why would he?
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>>64628829
he was questioned in early 2006 so it was wrestlemania 2006 and it had a shit card

pic related.
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>>64627834
>>64628168
>>64628298
>>64628586

I was thinking the brother or ex did it for sure or someone else close to her. I could just feel it. Anyone look more into that? They really should.
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>>64629055
It's called thinking for yourself and not letting a biased documentary shape your perception of reality.
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>>64629080
xD bro i do the same
love the frog you post
reddit 4 lyfe
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>>64628934
There's no way he's not taking it up his boipussy.
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>>64629055

That's because you're a dumb person who believes everything he sees on TV, Anon. It's okay, the world needs ditch diggers.
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>>64629069
Am I supposed to know who this is?
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>>64629055
Personally I think Avery most likely is the killer. But if you don't believe the police planted some evidence you're incredibly naive.
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>>64629097
>tfw you posted this yesterday
>tfw I'm always here

>>64629100
The police should have looked more into that but they didn't because lolwhocares when they already "had" their guy from the beginning.
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>>64629106
He does give off a gay vibe. Is he ever shown actually speaking in the show?
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so many /pol/cucks in here. all about sucking that american policeman penis.

yessir
thankyousir
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>>64629123
Are you unable to image search?
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>>64629150
Bobby and Scott are also shady as fuck.
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>>64629060
All the evidence is flawed. I've served on two juries and never saw one piece of evidence that evoked as much doubt as every piece of evidence in this trial.
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>>64628763
Cops probably got to them, just like how they got to every other level of the system.

Even the judge was biased against steven
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>>64629216
It's insane that they were allowed to have the trial in that county.
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>>64629159
Sure you could find something on youtube. He's a TV personality after all.
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>>64628292
Yeah?
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>>64629196
Agreed. Now obviously the documentary doesn't show all of the evidence presented by the prosecution but there are too many gaps to ignore. The "finding" of the key, multiple burn sites, lack of murder site, the bullet fragment, etc.
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>>64629102

Thanks for adding yourself to the list.
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>>64626950
"You may be the tall, young, hot nymph, but I am the prize!"
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>>64629165
You've literally never been to /pol/ have you?

Idiot.
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>>64629196
Like I said, I think he deserves a retrial. But it doesn't change the fact that the evidence all points to him. Guy is guilty as fuck.
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>>64629337
Why would anyone except reddit racist ever go to /pol/?
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How about the police officer reading the license plate live of the blue toyota BEFORE IT WAS EVEN FOUND OR REPORTED MISSING
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>>64629150
It's crazy because in most cases of such a brutal murder the killer is usually someone the victim knows.

Also wtf at Autotrader sending a lone woman out to an ex-cons trailer in a remote salvage yard?
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>>64629194

are those the guys who are like:

>did you go onto the Avery property?
>uhh no umm
>so you didnt go in with cops or search party?
>umm no we arent allowed so...

so shady. They did it I fucking know it
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>>64629374
Seriously what the fuck. That guy has the worst poker face in history. His expression when Strang plays the phone call again is priceless.
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>>64629374
You're supposed to ignore that. The police can do no wrong.
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Anyone else see the guy in the newsroom that looked like Rust in Episode 8? Nearly pissed myself laughing when I saw it.

>You know somebody once told me that the Avery family tree, it's like a flat circle.
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>>64629337
So you accuse people of being from a place that you have never been to, and your idiocy shows because those people from that place actually do the exact opposite of what you said they do, and then you admit it proudly?

Idiot.
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>>64627622
This dude was such a faggot. Pissed me off every time he spoke
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>>64629382
Yeah. Bobby is Brendan's older brother that actually has human level intelligence. Scott is the step-dad I think?
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I enjoy these threads until they become conspiracy theory circlejerks.
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Both sides were full of shit. The entire Avery family needs to be gassed. Every single cop and lawyer needs to be fired and sent to work in coal mines. Everyone who argues hard for either side will be allowed to choose which of the former two options they get.
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Is it possible to think that the cops were shitty and that Avery did it?

Or do I have to pick a side
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>>64629498
You mean within the first ten posts?
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>>64629498
The whole series is basically a conspiracy theory. If you don't like conspiracies then you might be in the wrong place. From my point of view, although while the cops were crooked in 85, they were probably too smart to pull that shit twice, especially since they knew the spotlight would be on them. Personally I think it was either a serial killer or one of the Halbach family (brother or ex-boyfriend) who did it and either accidentally or deliberately tried to create links with Steven knowing that the cops would go there first and not bother to investigate anything else.
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>>64629553
No, you're one of our minority of people with working brains that post in these threads.
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>>64629553
There's no arguing that Steven Avery isn't a piece of shit that would be in and out of prison his whole life regardless. The trial was incredibly unfair though.
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>>64629587

>Minorities

GET OUT!
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>>64626138
I'm from Milwaukee and I DP'd your mom last night you infernal faggot
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>>64629573
It most definitely wasn't just some random serial killer. The odds of that being the case are astronomically tiny.
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>>64629714
Glad to see the great minds from Wisconsin frequent 4chan. I'm sure you're making this board a better place for all of us, anon.
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>>64629714
>I'm from Milwaukee

That's like being from a 3rd world country
I'm so sorry for you anon
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Feel kind of bad for the parents. They seemed nice, even if the rest of their family was pretty worthless. Fucking hard life they had.
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>>64629863
Why would you feel bad for them? They raised the scum. Or didn't raise them is probably more correct. They created these monsters. Do you think everyone in town disliked the Avery family because they were misunderstood really good citizens?
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>>64629553
Well, if you're a juror, you have to pick a side. If you're not a juror then you don't. Either way it's worth discussing how the jury should have ruled.
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>>64629863
Steve tortured a cat and that usually means someone comes from an abusive home. I know they're sad, frumpy and poor looking and that tugs at your heartstrings, but they could easily be manipulative piles of shit who abuse children. Like Steven Avery.
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>>64629958

nice armchair psychology faggot
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This is such a stupid show. He's some sort of retarded hick, I can't care what happens to him. Terrible
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>>64629600
>39 big ones
>doing time ever
kek's delivery service
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>>64629988

Go away Mrs. Avery. You look like a fucking human potato.
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>>64629381
A. She had been there multiple times before
B. It wasn't a remote location from a horror movie like you're picturing.
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>>64630014

armchair psychologist faggot
plz go stay go
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>>64629989
I also had this problem. I can't force myself to care about such a subhuman. I don't care if he was guilty or not, I'm glad he's locked up and I hope they get a shitload more.
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>>64630035

Different person you ugly old whore. Learn 2 contraception you troglodyte.
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>>64630009
If he had gotten that money, someone in his dumb hick family would have killed him to try to get it. No doubt in my mind.
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>>64630045
Sir, I'd like to invest in your edge fund.
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>>64629988
Yeah? It's backed by research.
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>>64630045
Thank you, holy shit. I honestly felt sick watching the first episode. I don't even wanna try to watch the rest.
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>>64630075

all armchair psychologists are the same: pampered rich faggots who've never seen the world and think they know it.

fuck off.
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>>64630085
>You're edgy if you don't care about terrible people having bad things happen to them

Okay. Guess I'm edgy.
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>>64630092
>Yeah? It's backed by research.
>posts zero sources
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>>64630132

I said nothing about psychology. Now I will though.

My diagnosis is you're mad and a retard. Take one bullet and lodge it in your brain stem.
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>>64630133
Yeah, you said you don't care. You also said "I'm glad he's locked up" which implies that you do care and you're a dank edgelord.
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>>64629989
>>64630045

You guys are the type of people who'd truly deserve to get ground up in a vindictive, corrupt, and broken justice system.
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>>64630212
I don't care what happens to him as far as his feelings and rights. I do care that the decent people no longer have to worry about being burglarized or raped or murdered by him.

Again, proud to be an edgelord if that makes me one.
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>>64630256

>DA POLEEZ BE EBIL BLACK LIVES MATTER FREE STEBEN I CAN'T BREATHE FUCK DA SISTEM

Neck yourself cuck.
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>>64630189
>I said nothing about psychology

Backpedaling now are we faggot?
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Was Steven Avery innocent ? Maybe not.

Were they enough solid proofs to leave no room for reasonable doubt ? I think not.

Was the investigation and prosecution led in a professional way, that allowed a fair trial. Absolutely fucking not.
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>>64630405
Agreed. I felt the same way about Adnan at the end of Serial.
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>>64630405
this
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>>64630346
Yeah, you'll never catch a case. Uz a gud boiz u dindu nufink u goin 2 skol n shit constitushin iz 4 thungz and crimimulz n shit yo werd
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>>64630281
The others I get but burglarized? Where are you getting that from?
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>>64630399

What part of the fact you are talking to at least two different people do you not understand you dense mongoloid?

Brendan? Is that you?
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>>64630405

cue the accusations of being a leftist, braindead sheep
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>>64630497
Probably the two burglaries he was put in jail for before the first time he went to prison for rape.
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>>64630509
Yeah.
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>>64630405
>muh reasonable doubt

The trial was a shitshow, but Avery was without a doubt guilty based on the evidence.

Give him a retrial. Or don't. Guy is a piece of shit rapist murdering child molester.
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Isn't it great when we can use the criminal justice system as a form of entertainment?
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>>64630546
I'm only seeing a burglary of a bar. What was the other one?
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>>64629041
>>64628815
He looks like a Ken doll.
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>>64630598
You do realize the true crime genre has been around for quite some time, right?
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>>64630583
He's serving a just sentence for burning a cat alive, but if OJ could get off, this faggot should have been able to, too.
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It took a mere Netflix documentary to give everyone on /tv/ a J.D.

Impressive.
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>>64630509
>What part of the fact you are

Jesus Christ you love hearing yourself talk.

And if you're using the name Anonymous, and someone else uses the same fucking name, I'm going to treat you *GASP* as one in the same you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>64630652
>if a multi-millionaire celebrity like OJ could get off, this poor white trash idiot should have been able to as well

Explain your reasoning please.
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>>64630346

>nobody deserves a fair trial if they are not aesthetically pleasing

Crawl back up your mothers womb, kid, so she can finish your coat hanger abortion.
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>>64630627
It's still disgusting
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>>64630652
Don't forget the two girls he raped.
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>>64629381
Also wtf at Autotrader sending a lone woman out to an ex-con's trailer in a remote salvage yard?

Seriously, that kept bugging me too. Oh hey Teresa, I know you keep getting those weird phone calls but when you get a sec I need you to be a sweetie and head out to the boonies and see that guy that got out of prison for brutally beating and raping a woman. It's okay, he was acquitted. DNA and whatnot. Yeah I know everybody thinks him and his family are pure evil, but no biggie. Now run along, we got deadlines to meet.
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>>64628815
I'm not wrong in thinking he dyes his hair, right? Looks fake af.
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>>64630697

I told you I was a different person several replies ago. You are legitimately the stupidest motherfucker on all of 4chan.
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>>64630750
I posted this earlier but I'll post it again:

A. She had been there multiple times before
B. It wasn't a remote horror movie location like you're picturing
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>>64630750
>Hey Theresa you ever see the movie Deliverance? No? Good then I got a job for you
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>>64629374
this is the #1 piece of evidence that something was dirty. I think it was after she was reported missing though, but two days before they found it.
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>>64630708
Who the fuck said anything about looks?

kek projecting homo go blow some guy already you fag it's current year no one cares that all you can think about is how men look ya queer.
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>>64630750
>ex-con

Is someone an ex-con even if they've been exonerated?
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>>64630705
justice is blind :^)

>>64630723
What girls? The nonfiction documentary I saw didn't even mention them.
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>>64630857
Some of that prison sentence was for illegal weapon possession or something like that.
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>>64630857
He had several priors. Hence Charge 3 'felon with a firearm'.
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>>64630857
Maybe. He's definitely an ex con because he was in jail and prison for other things he definitely did before that too though.
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>>64626170
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>>64626336
Anon didnt even mentioned brendans crime scene buddy.
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>>64630803
Also, multiple people lived there. It wasn't just Steven. There were like three trailers relatively close together.
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>>64631018
All of them a person convicted or charged with assaulting women apparently lived in too. This has come to light since Steven filed the paperwork saying he thinks his brothers killed Teresa.

The Avery family, I mean these guys are real jerks.
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>>64629307
sent :)
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Why was Colbern looking at Teresas car 2 days before it was found?

Also why was it that Lenk guy who always found the evidence when the Manitwoc police weren't even suppose to be there?
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>>64627744
ONE BIG ROOM
FULL OF FAT BITCHES
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>>64631071
If Steven didn't do it, I think Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych are the most likely killers.
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>people falling for a one-sided documentary so easily

Holy shit i didnt think people were so gulliable that they would fall for this
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>>64631140

Ken pls go
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>>64630583
>evidence
all circumstantial, or found in a weird way.
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>>64631094
Did he ever explain this? When did the department know the license plate of the car Teresa was driving?

I figure either they knew the license plate number in which case - why "call it in" unless you're staring at it?

or

Her ex-bf, family, insurance company, etc told Colbern "this is the license plate you should be looking for" in which case he was calling it in to verify with whatever resources dispatch had at their disposal.
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>>64631140
Holy shit anon, you're right! Not a single other person has pointed this out before. Thanks for keeping us honest :)
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>>64631140
People are dumb, Anon. You post here, you should know that from just looking at page 0.
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>>64631140
Regardless of where you stand on the question of guilty or innocent, you have to see that Steven's trial was fundamentally flawed and should have returned at best a not-guilty, or at worst a mistrial. Obviously the documentary has a point of view, nobody would watch 10 hours following a documentary that sat on the fence about someone's innocence or guilt - they'd just read the verdict on Wikipedia. It's only compelling because it tells a story and has characters and drama, and its gets us to care about that. You're not being manipulated just because someone is telling you a story, that's the essence of story-telling, and all media does it, even documentaries. The idea that there is some sort of infallible 'unbiased' neutral point of view is just ludicrous.
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>>64631188
I don't know but Colburn could not have made a more hilarious deer in the headlights, caught red handed face when Strang played the phone call the second time.
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>>64626474

immediately assuming all cops are bad is a reddit as it get my man
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>>64631222
Copied for use in future threads. Thank you, anon. Very well put.
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>>64626950
I turned it off at 1:03 because Kratz again makes the false claim that Dassey volunteered the information about the hood latch. He did not. Fassbender first disclosed that information, then he and Wiegert manipulated Dassey into confirming it:

>Fassbender (F): OK, what else did he do? He did somethin' else; you need to tell us what he did, after that car is parked there. It's extremely important. (Pause.) Before you guys leave that car.

>Brendan (B): Then he left the gun in the car.

>F: That's not what I'm thinkin' about. He did something to that car. He took the plates and he; I believe he did something else in that car.

>B: I don't know.

>F: OK. Did he... did he... did he go and look at the engine; did he raise the hood at all or anything like that? To do something to the car?

>B: Yeah.

>F: What was that?

>Wiegert: What did he do, Brendan? (Pause.) It's OK, what did he do?

>F: What did he do under the hood, if that's what he did?

>B: I don't know what he did, but I know he went under.

>F: He did raise the hood? [Brendan nods "yes".] You remember that?

>B: Yeah.

SOURCE: http://convolutedbrian.com.s3.amazonaws.com/dassey/01Mar2006/01Mar2006Transcript.pdf
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>>64631222
I agreed with everything you said until your last sentence.

>there is no objective truth
There is, we just don't know and will never know it.
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>>64631298
>That fucking retard got a high school diploma
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>>64627628
Although I believe in the innocence of Avery and Dassey, the puncture in that Vacutainer likely came from the initital blood draw from Steven. Moreover, the cut evidence tape might've simply come from the lab that analyzed the sample after it was drawn.

But both the lab and the police should've kept detailed custody logs. They didn't. So now the defense implication that the blood on the RAV4 came from that tube carries a bit more weight.
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>>64631313
That's not what he was saying, anon. He was saying when you present a story in documentary form, it's impossible for it to be objective.
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Are all Wisconsin people stupid?

>Sheriffs department wrongly convict Avery
>Avery about to get $$$$ settlement
>Avery is arrested for it
>The same officers, Colbern & Lenk find all evidence

It's not hard to believe that the police stitched him for because they were going to loose millions in the settlement.
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>>64630705
He had better lawyers for one.
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>>64631313
I never said there's no objective truth, only that there's no such thing as unbiased story-telling. Pretensions of non-bias, just like the BBC purport to has, are in themselves a form of bias and can be very damaging because we invest these institutions with a lot of power and influence because they are supposedly 'impartial' when in fact they aren't because such a thing is impossible.
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>>64631358
Are you sure? Did he get his GED in prison or something?
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>>64628082
>I even told them about Steven touching me and that.
Oh, so another coached statement from Fassbender and Wiegert.
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>>64631377
>>64631406

Ah, ok. I understand the distinction. Disregard, I suck cocks.
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>>64628764
>my client is morally culpable for this spamming
>no i haven't spoken to him yet
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>>64630835
Yeah if it were about looks we'd have to send your edgy ass to the chair.
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>>64631298

>Brendan Dassey's project was handed in eight years late but they still passed him
>Duquan Williams handed his in a day late and they failed him

This is the racist system we have to deal with people.
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>>64629863

because they had no hand in creating a person who tosses a cat into a fire, right?
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>>64629069
>undisputed
>todd willingham
Texas executed a guy for a crime that never even occurred.
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>>64631480
>I do not recall saying that
>Is then shown a video of him saying exactly that
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>>64631481
EPIC. OH MY GOD SO REKT. FUCKIN EPIC.

How upset are you right now brah?
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>>64631126
Delete this.
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>>64631487
Can you fucking believe that it's current year?
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>>64631408
>picture of him in cap and gown
ARE U SURE
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>>64631564
Good god...
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>>64631546
Pretty upset. You can usually tell I'm upset when I'm on 4chan cracking dank jokes.
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>>64631564

I bet that bitch can take a hell of a punch.
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>>64631600
My bad. I'm just shocked that Brendan managed to do it.
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>>64631600
I was just as surprised, but I think he has gotten his GED in prison.
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>>64631564

HE'S TOUCHING THAT KID'S DICK, SOMEONE ARREST HIM!

YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL FUCKER!
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>>64631564

>tfw you're a Wisconsin 7 and still have to marry into a family of murderers and thieves
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>>64631701
You mean a family of outdoorsmen.
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>it's a Brendan says 'yeah' episode
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>>64631771
>It's a law enforcement official or lawyer says 'That is correct' episode
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>those wisconsin accents
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>>64629041
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>It's a brendan misses Wrestlemania episode
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>>64631996
We should petition John Cena to go visit him.
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>>64632041
bruuuuh
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>>64632077
>>64632077
>>64632077
>>64632077
>>64632077

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