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Who has the second-richest film tradition in the world? Everyone knows the USA is #1, US invented cinema and pioneered everything in it.

Who has the next richest film tradition? Japanese film is a treasurehouse, but is the Japanese film tradition richer than France's? To some extent this calculation must depend on taste. Some people tend to like French film more, some Japanese. The French, however, do have some significant factors in their favor. The French claim to cinema greatness goes back as far as cinema itself, and has been a pretty much unbroken chain of excellence. (Excepting, perhaps, the WWII period. Even during WWII, they produced "Children of Paradise.") Japanese cinema's significant history starts in the early 1930s. While there are fine Japanese films from that era, Japanese film really geared up during the early 1950s, and then produced a lengthy string of fine films from many directors through the 70s. The 80s and 90s, however, have been a less productive period for Japanese films. (Unless you're on of those who regards anime as the peak of cinematic achievement.) They've made some films worth watching, but they've experienced a truly fallow period, in my opinion. The French, on the other hand, while not perhaps up to their finest periods, continue to produce exceptional films annually.
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France, easily, only weebs or rosbifs would say otherwise.

Nothing Japan has produced can rival the French New Wave.
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>>64611759
Takeshi Kitano shits in your mother's mouth
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The competition is between France and Italy you retard, and unless you're a surface level ignorant Godard worshipping idiot, it's fair game either way.
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>>64611603
New Zealand m8
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>>64611985
I only like Italian films when they're dubbed in English. Who wants to hear Kirk Douglas, Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, Eli Wallach, Cameron Mitchell, Farley Granger, Jack Palance, Guy Madison, John Saxon and Barry Sullivan dubbed in Italian?

And even when the casts are all Italian, it's a chore listening to them in Italian, because the post-dubbing is so awful. Why is the Italian film industry so repelled by sync-sound recording?
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>>64611982

Kitano makes typical gangster flicks with deadpan acting so people assume it's "deep"

He's actually a very mediocre filmmaker.
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>>64611603
David duchovny
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>>64611759
Except, you know, the whole Japanese Golden Age which literally influenced modern day cinema.

Japanese make the best movies in the world, anyone who disagrees is this guy -
>writes any dissenting opinion off as 'weeb'.
>as if being a weeb is a bad thing

What's the french got?
Traffuat? Goddard?

Japan has -
Kobayashi
Kurosawa
Ozu
Mizoguchi
Honda
Inagaki

There is no competition when you actually think about it.
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I actually once tried to make an autistic ranking of country's cinematic output based on a shitty algorithm from the TSPDT top 1000 films I got bored and gave up after 200 but the USA was obviously way out in front, and France was in second, Japan was kind of middle of the pack. I think people forget that outside of the big three Japanese directors, the country is kind of unremarkable cinematically.
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>>64612145
Weeb.
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Easily korea, what the fuck? They make so many good movies:

taeguki
i saw the devil
memories of murder
welcome to dongmakgol

the list goes on...
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>>64612145
>Kobayashi
>Kurosawa
>Ozu
>Mizoguchi
>Honda
>Inagaki

literally a whose who of literally who?
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>>64612165
Number 3 in that list is 2001.

So, yeah.
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>>64611603
You forgot about India.
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>>64612220
One of them made Godzilla, if that helps you plebs understand.
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>>64612253

It's basically the metacritic of top lists, compiling loads together into one. It's not meant to an objective, curated list.
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America has had consistently made at least ONE good movie a year since the fucking 70s, are other countries even trying?
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>>64612289
No one gives a shit weeb,also
>godzilla
>not pleb
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>>64612192
I have watched all the Korean movies available to me. I stopped doing it since summer, because the ratio between good and mediocre movies started to go to zero. Personally, I think Korean movie industry is no different from any other country. Every year, a few good movies and million craps. The highest peak (around 00-04) of so-called Korean new wave was already over. Last year was one of the worst years in terms of quality. One good thing is that the wave has produced half dozen good directors worth following.
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>>64612379
>it has to be obscure and artsy to be 'good'
That's not how it works.

Bud.
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>>64611603
China, India.
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>>64612417
>muh black and white giant monster movies from the 50s
even grannies wouldnt watch that garbo
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>>64612289

Oh wow! He made the wonderful godzilla! What a contribution to modern filmmaking!

Nigga are you serious?
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>>64611603
Why do people try to talk about foreign cinema, when they know nothing about it?

>however, have been a less productive period for Japanese films. (Unless you're on of those who regards anime as the peak of cinematic achievement.

Is probably one of the most wrong things you could say.

I could list a bunch of movies from Japan off the top of my head which trump any American or Eu film that has been released.

Kabukicho Love Hotel - 2014
Himizu - 2011
Dolls - 2002
The Tale of Iya - 2013

If you want to make broad claims like you have, you have to at least know what you are saying. For more movies look at the directors from each of those posted movies. They are very active, and very much above the bar.
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>>64612602
Are you really denying the contribution of Godzilla to modern American movies?
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>>64612638
>wow such slow and boring wideshot of a man walking, how artful!
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>>64612665
Garbage ones.
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>>64612713
>>wow such slow and boring wideshot of a man walking, how artful!
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britain
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>>64612763

>>64612747
It's influence is undeniable. Not my fault you didn't lke them.
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>>64612638
>mfw weebs genuinely think nip cinema is better

i wish there was a kickstarter to send all weebs to japan.
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>>64612797
>Not my fault they weren't GOOD
fixd for you
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>>64612797
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why have none of you fucks mentioned Slovak, or Polish directors already? Krzysztof Kieslowski, Ján Kadár, Elmar Klos, Dušan Hanák, Andrzej Wajda, and Tadeusz Konwicki are only some of the phenomenal directors to be found in east-central Europe.
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>>64612833

>>64612799
I'd join that kickstart, desu.
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>>64612833
david fincher directs shit like this all the time but when a nip does it its the pinnacle of cinema to weebs.lel.
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>>64612220
>Dis nigga
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>>64612877

onto >>64612638
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>>64611603
>Everyone knows the USA is #1, US invented cinema and pioneered everything in it.

Pigdog, please.
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>>64612933
pigdog sounds delicious.
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>>64612922

I need to make more Iya webms.

>>64612884
Why can't you read?
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>>64612982
read what?
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>>64612996
What I said?
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>>64613053
Where? American Movies being influenced by Godzilla?
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>>64612145
Gtfo weeb, your kind is not wanted here.
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French people are the worst
new wave is garbage
le muh nude love making
le muh powerful emotions of le sex

why are french people so up their own ass and pretentious compared to everyone else?

Tati was was the only cool dude
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>>64611603
>US invented cinema and pioneered everything in it.
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>>64613087
Where do you think you are?
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>>64613095
>weeb doing damage control
your animu waifu will b impressed
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>>64613095
Because they're french.
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>>64613128
there are like two weebs in this thread.
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>>64613157
>le french are pretenious maymay
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>see picture from Magic world cup

>click thread

>autists arguing about which one is more contrarian
oh yeah i forgot i was on /tv/
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>>64613185
You didn't answer the question.
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UUAAAHHUAH THE FRENCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFevH5vP32s
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>>64613253
Are these webms supposed to impress me?
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>>64613128
On /tv/, one of the non-weeb boards, thank you very much.

If your faggot ass wants to discuss your "epic nihongo culture", take your ass to /a/.
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>>64611603
Here, go read up on this guy, everyone owes him a lot of respect in the film industry:

Georges Méliès

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_M%C3%A9li%C3%A8s

>Also, enjoy the mustache.
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>>64613323
Neat
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>>64612833
Casses-toi, pov con.
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>>64613304
No. You still haven't answered the question.
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>>64613437
>7h du mat un vendredi
>il merdeposte sur /tv/

à quel moment cela a-t-il mal tourné ?
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>>64613445
>>64613319
Did a good job for me,go back to watching JAV before your mom gets home and hears you crying through the walls.
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>>64613469
Il n'y a jamais de mauvaise heure pour remettre les weebs a leur place.

Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre, ces encules nippophiles.
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>>64613535
Basé

Je remarque que tu n'utilises pas d'accents, expat' ?
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>>64613497
Just saying, you're wrong.
>moot
>current owner is a literal nip
>somehow not a weeb website

:^)
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>>64613609
but /tv/s #1 waifus and movies of the year are american,so leave.
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>>64613585
Laptop anglais, et je ne vais pas me tapper Alt + (nombre quelconque) a chaque fois que je dois faire un accent, ca fait plus chier que d'autre chose.
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>>64613704
Nahhhhhhhh.
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>>64613609
>a website's userbase and main purpose never changes
>the owner of the site is a Japanese man, therefore this site is a safe space for weebs :^)
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>>64613759
>a website made for western audiences to dicuss Japanese things isn't a weeb website
>a website imitating almost exactly a weeb website isn't a weeb website
>the userbase surely isn't delusional
>americans surely aren't ignorant

It's a weeb website, and moot picked best girl, deal with it.

Reifag.
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>>64613809
It was a weeb website

Now it's 4chan
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>>64613737
You must not browse here very often.You can leave at anytime.
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>>64613809
Fuck you, weeb.

The userbase did change, there's nothing that can be said against that, that's why we have so many weeb containment boards.

Team Asuka all the way in any case.
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>>64613809
we hardly discuss asian movies on /tv/ and when we do the threads only reach 100-200 replies because of shitposting.
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>>64613848
>owner is a literal nip
>not a weeb website

>>64613860
:^) 10 years and counting, bro.
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>>64613759
gb2 reddit
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>>64613923
gb2 /a/ which is literally worse then reddit because asians cant into media.
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>>64613915
>we hardly discuss asian movies on /tv/ and when we do the threads only reach 100-200 replies because of shitposting.

xD
>we
(you)

>>64613914
>The userbase did change
Of course it did, it's full of normies now. That doesn't mean the reasoning for this place has changed, it just means it inhabited by normies, such as yourself.
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>>64613923
Don't you have some Chinese girl cartoons to jerk off to, gaijin-piggu?
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>>64613759
Don't you have a teenage girl to kill?
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>>64613979
Go check the archive weeb fuck.
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>>64614043
>actually using archives
>the thing which killed 4chan
>(you) are not the problem
:^)

I ran out of my webms.
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>>64613979
>Of course it did, it's full of normies now. That doesn't mean the reasoning for this place has changed, it just means it inhabited by normies, such as yourself.
Exactly, it's ruled by non-weebs now, so fuck off back to /a/, it's where sub-humans like you should stay.
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>>64612417
But no because is popular means is good either
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>>64614106
>killing 4chin
>making it so we can BTFO weebs like you
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>>64614150
>Exactly, it's ruled by non-weebs now, so fuck off back to /a/, it's where sub-humans like you should stay.

Yeah, no. Normies will leave and all that will remain is all that there once was.
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>>64612145
Honda's a car manufacturer, dude
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>>64614176
(you)
At least deny being the normie scum which you are.
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>>64614195
The time of the weeb is over, mate.

Just accept it.

Here, have a Maisie to cheer you up.
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>>64614252
>a literal bong poster
>and not the good kind
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>>64614195
Even in 2007 there were no weebs on /tv/ and only the occasional anime bait thread.Also
>mfw normies are making animu more casual
>mfw weebs will have to compete with chads for their waifu
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>>64614304
What the fuck are you implying about Maisie, you weeaboo fucking shit?!
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>>64614314
>kek
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>>64614350
This is the only acceptable bong, except that filthy CP.
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>>64614431
>weeb
>also a weedfag

I didn't know what I was expecting.
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>>64614475
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