Really, what do you see in this turd? It's just awful, the narrative (esp. the altruistic dinosaur part), the directing (just one of them being classical and BRRRRM + space) and general visuals being so in your face.
>>64597959 It's not meant to be suble...its the romantization and a poetical inner reflection of a conservative family in the 50s...
The whole purpose is to sound pretentious...they are questioning their existence all the time evidenced in the voice over lines like "why am I here" and "What is my purpose" and etc...they are close-minded and basic knowledge is out of their reach....but despite that they still ask the same questions that a modern scientist asks today; questioning the meaning of existence and its origins, and no one knows for sure what is behind all of this...only death is for sure.
>>64596397 Surprisingly good. There was even a group of teens in the theatre and they seemed to be overwhelmed by the beauty and flow of the pictures. I remember everybody sitting longer in their seats when the credits rolled than in general and a lot of people seemed to be lost in their own thoughts.
>>64600254 Really, tell me why it was so deep? Whatever philosophical subjects it touched, it was on a surface level and whatever narrative it tried to push, it tremendously failed ie. altruistic dinosaurs and birth of consciousness, that is just a scared man philosophizing.
Everyone was crying by the end. Some people literally broke down and had to be hugged/comforted by people near them. It was the most human experience I have lived through. Malick showed us the truth, just for a second.
>>64601475 I don't know how you missed clear messages of Interconnectedness of life on Earth and the experiences and implications of being a living thing and a human being.
Quite literally, a lot is being said without being said at all. The film is a true testament to the human condition and the very act of being alive in a seemingly chaotic universe on one small, beautiful canvas.
>>64601577 ..I mean, come back when you have reading comprehension. Apparently pretendfans of Terry can't fucking read.
>of Interconnectedness of life on Earth and the experiences and implications of being a living thing and a human being. Altruistic dinosaurs, yeah dats where the conscious mind came to play with their frontal cortexes they didnt even have.
I think it would have been better received if the ending wasn't so ridiculously pretentious. Walking around on the beach, then Sean Penn looking around for no reason, then a shot of an unrelated bridge. Really?
>>64601829 It was cut like dog crap, the movie that is. Could've done absolutely without Sean Penn's exposition scenes at all and the retarded contrast setup that was known to everyone before they went to the movie.
The fact the story didn't even touch on one faith and particular and went the spiritual avenue I can't really see it. The Book of Job is specifically about a man undying love of God in the face of hardships.
>>64601987 All Abrahamic religions are at odds with each other, in Judaism there is no real notion of heaven which renders the last scene in the film incompatible with this belief, in Islam portraying God in any way is not allowed in any way. The movie depicts God in a few scenes as ethereal beams of lights.
Are you fucking kidding me? You took the scene of the carnivorous dinosaur leaving the herbivorous dinosaur alone as "Woah, that dinosaur thought about the situation for a second and chose not to eat him. I guess Malik is implying he's conscious." ?
>>64601987 >How so? The opening quote The film's main theme of the problem of evil and the cosmic journey that is similar to how God shows Job all of creation A priest literally talks about the Book of Job Jack O'Brien = JOB
>>64601987 >The Book of Job is specifically about a man undying love of God in the face of hardships
>[on screen, unspoken] "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 38:4,7
The film starts with this quote. The parents have lost a son. They see themselves as unjustly punished. The mother literally questions god about why he did this to her in the voice-over.
Job in the bible is a good man. He is however endlessly put through suffering. He asks god why he must go through such hardships. God confronts him and literally tells him that he is just a man and cannot comprehend the universe, (the quote above with which the movie opens). The vastness of it is too much for a simple man to ever understand. This is also mirrored in the film with the 'Lacrimosa' scene. You see the vastness of the universe, and suddenly the family seems insignificant.
The ending shows the mother accepting God.
There is obviously much more going on. This is a very bare bones analysis.
>>64602512 Again, no one is saying this is what happened during the inception of consciousness in the canon of evolution in real life. It is factual however that the scene within the movie was supposed to signify the moment when consciousness was developed by living beings on this planet (it's factual because people who worked on the film said this), whether you're meant to understand this to be a literal recollection of history or if it's a metaphor of some kind is up to you, it seems rather obvious that it's the latter though.
>>64602557 If he was legitimately implying consciousness in a dinosaur then yeah, the guy is absolutely wrong. I'd defending the scene the way it was shown to me, a random fuck off dinosaur not eating another dinosaur because he wasn't hungry.
>>64602608 >no one is saying this is what happened during the inception of consciousness in the canon of evolution in real life
Neither am I. All I'm saying is I look at this from a non-theological viewpoint and saw it quite literally as animals being animals.
>it's factual because people who worked on the film said this
And where can I view this? Does it have the Terry seal of approval?
As a scholar of Terry I'll clear some things up. The dinosaur scene's significance is that it was the first time in the universe that mercy was shown, a deeply Christian sentiment. The film is based off the book of Job, but for Malick spirituality is king. The teachings of Christ are just as important, though. He sides with Kierkegaard when concerning the crowd and Christendom.
The Tree of Life isn't some autistic abstraction about religion. It's about the characters and their flaws, sin, and the triumph of humanity as a whole. The ending is obviously about Heaven, but transcendence and the final understanding of one another is the true sentiment. God bless, and strive to be good to one another.
>>64602405 That's not the same thing idiot A better analogy would be if you're lying injured and a bear comes along. He could easily tear you up or he could also leave you alone or he could tell you that you're not getting an Oscar this year, Leo
this is one of the simplest and most useless movie I've ever seen. He made, the whole time, a simple "concept+picture" association, most of the time reaching an unexpected level of mediocrity ("loneliness" is equal to "modern man in a futuristic milieu" - no kidding!)
not a single original thought in the movie outside altruistic dinosaurs
>>64602749 >>64602772 That's fine and dandy and everything, but it's still not going to change the way I look at the scene.
I'd agree with the statement that it was the "birth of compassion" more than the birth of consciousness in this dinosaur because that's how I originally viewed the scene. The birth of compassion from an unconscious and obviously uncompassionate creature.
>>64603156 I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say there was probably more Terry had to say about this scene then "Yeah dinosaur decides to not eat other dinosaur, birth of consciousness. Next."
>>64603605 Again, look at the scene from the perspective it's an animal refusing a meal because it's already eaten. There you go, an unintentional "compassionate" moment between two different creatures.
I happen to be someone that believes when you create a piece of art and present it to the world you kind of unintentionally forfeit the right to tell people what they're right and wrong about.
I think one of the main points of artistic value is the fact it doesn't have to be totally explained for two different people with two different viewpoints to enjoy it. Terry can have his (wrong) meaning, I'm quite happy with mine.
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