>>64596335 They need to do a Stargate series about a special missions team SG-X or something. A team that does Earth's dirty work and they don't exist on any SG records, nobody in the Galaxy knows where there from, they sometimes even have to face off against regular SG teams. It'll be a very political show, the team would eventually begin hating what they do, especially when more and more innocent lives are lost as a result of them "just following orders", finally one of the team members offers himself for judgement to one of the alien races and they execute him after he informs everything, Earth and SG-1 deny everything and claim that the team is rogue and that they are wanted. As a result the team actually goes rogue and when they find comfort in the hands of all these different alien races that they wronged, they decide to become galaxy vigilantes, of course this happens after one member shoots her commanding officer and the team leader for attempting to follow on a new mission provided by Earth's government. She becomes the team leader and they venture to become vigilantes, their only connection to Earth is O'Neill who after learning of their existence, starts secretly and against SG command, contacting them and providing assistance and info to them, they let him know that if even if Earth is the oppressor, they will fight them.
>>64597336 At the time the new team is formed, Earth of course forms a new special missions team this time publicly, claiming that their sole mission is to hunt the rogue team, so the show will have many episodes with these teams interacting and when command asks the new Special Missions team to perform a side mission, the other team always interrupts and that's when Earth starts looking for the mole, so we'll have good drama for O'Neil too.
>>64597784 I've seen that posted in one of these threads before and looked it up, and I think he had it right that the studio has their own plans for the rights. I think they're just deadset on it becoming a blockbuster instead of putting in the effort of a show with minimal returns. The sad thing is that Emmerich's new Independence day looks pretty good, tbph, and I just don't see it failing enough for them to pull out of that Stargate movie.
Why was SGU bad? The answer is that it was Stargate, written by people who spent last decade writing Stargate trying to not be Stargate. Trying to be something else.
To begin with, it was a mistake. Typical misguided attempt at gaining new audience, resulting alienation of existing audience while potential new audience never got to find out that this show changed.
Stargate was always a show about brave and implausibly competent men and women fighting for greater good. I don't even hate Stargate Universe, but I really can't quite believe I'm watching Stargate, those characters are not people that could pass any kind of selection.
>>64597987 >The sad thing is that Emmerich's new Independence day looks pretty good, tbph, and I just don't see it failing enough for them to pull out of that Stargate movie. Yeah you're probably right.
>>64596335 The writers were tired of doing the same old story, so they decided to do a grimdark semi reboot, without remembering who their fucking target demographic is, and what they enjoy. Same thing as happened to Voyager, i guess? Also, if you do something brand new that's going to potentially alienate your fans, it needs to be good from the start.
>>64596335 >"We want the BSG crowd!" >"We need more drama in Star Gate!" >Pandered heavily to SJWs >Show was no longer about discovering new worlds and civilizations with a comfy home base to back to, all with a lacquer of comedy and adventure, but X isn't talking to Y, so Y isn't going to be feeling so good on their journey to generic jungle planet No.11
SG1 and Atlantis were like Hercules and Xena in both their settings, attitude, and fun factor. They never took themselves seriously, and were just plain entertaining.
SGU was like watching someone who had never seen a Star Gate show before, and trying to make a dark space opera with as much drama as possible.
>Yfw that episode where they use the communication stones so a teenage girl can go back to Earth so she could go to a party with her girlfriends, only to find out one of them is fucking her boyfriend behind her back >This is literally what the entire episode centered around
>>64599681 A show about the NID that ran parallel to SG-1 would be pretty neat. Like it's all about them running covert ops to maintain the balance of power in earth, working behind the scenes to prevent the catastrophes that SG-1 inevitably gets credit for, working undercover through the other SG teams to keep the SGC from destroying earth again this week.
It would the same kind of like Opposing Force, only with Stargate, and the SGC is the morally grey outfit endangering the planet.
>>64599558 >all with a lacquer of comedy That lacquer of comedy SG-1 had wasn't inherently there from the beginning at all, though. That came in later seasons after the show had earned it. The show tried something different and fans repudiated it after 1 season, a lot of people even less. I can honestly see the producers' point that the fans hurt them. People pretend like this whole thing came out of nowhere too, like SG-1 and SGA weren't already seeing declines in viewership. The thing that always gets me though is that if you look at the current state of sci-fi, they were totally right in going grimdark. They should've thrown some Zero-g sex in one of the trailers so people would've had a better idea of what they were getting though.
>>64600301 I've probably had this conversation hundreds of times, but no matter what I think or the other person thinks about SGU, the best conclusion I've been able to come to is, Series Fatigue is real and the only way to beat it is to just put the series to rest. What really frosts my ass though is Emmerich's movie just wiping it all away in favor of some more 10,000 B.C. weirdo shit.
Friendly reminder that all Stargate tv-show lore is non-canon. They are restarting the entire franchise because the director of the original movie got so buttblasted over the show becoming more popular than the movie, which meant he couldn't do the trilogy he wanted.
>>64600948 Everything where they didn't spend their time with bullshit personal problems was great. And even some times when they spent their time dealing this them, like where they met their descendants and watched the recordings.
>>64599681 Earth suffers a near-apocalyptic nuclear war and the remnants of the US military use the Stargate to help rebuild human civilization by importing alien tech. In the early decades hard decisions had to be made, and not all supplies were gained through trade, but these raids were kept a secret from the general population. Show starts a generation after the nuclear war.
>>64599681 Do a reboot, all the kids are doing it these days.
Have it be more like Battle Los Angeles, with regular spaceship invasions and all out war. Halfway postappocalyptic, it worked for The Walking Dead. Have a side-arc with people living in the ruins. And the main storyline can be an elite team of whatever, you have to get the stargate in there somehow...
>>64599681 >Hillary Clinton wins the elections >she keeps her word, and tells everything about UFOs >She's telling Stargate is true, asgars are true, and the tv series was just a cover-story for it. >the 1947 ufo accidents ufonaut was Loki
>>64599558 You could do one about the Tok'ra or the Jaffa and the war from their point of view, you could do one about the Ancients first setting up the gate network and all of the trouble they encounter as that one woman said the Pegasus was loaded with way more aliens than anyone could imagine as well as inventing ones that simply went extinct by the time SG-1 is set. It could build up to the meeting of the four races. Then there is the war with the Wraith.
Stargate TNG based on that episode where they go to the future for five minutes and meet old Cassandra.
Maybe not the acting, but the character sure was. Has there ever been a more wretched audience-insert than that fuck?
>insecure useless fatty who lives with his mom and plays videogames all day but he's still totally smart like his mom always told him and manages to figure out Ancient code better than Daniel motherfucking Jackson despite having no knowledge of it
He and the stones made Universe the steaming pile of shit it was. If it actually got renewed and it turned out he died so that everyone else could live and somehow the stones got chucked out an air-lock the new season would immediately become an 8/10.
>>64596335 Same thing happened to Voyager, good concept, terrible execution.
Seems to happen to almost every science fiction show about humans trapped in some alien bullshit/part of space unless the show is a comedy from the start. Atlantis is sort of similar but was ok-ish and I have no idea how Battle Star managed to be good for at least three seasons.
>>64605357 She walked out of her sleeping quarters when hearing the commotion. They were either flying the ball into her bedroom, or had just made it leave her bedroom.
>>64605446 When you're in charge of keeping everyone on the ship alive I'm going to hold you to a higher standard, sailor. If you want to look at titties you'll have to do it after you've gotten us back home.
>>64605528 >Seems to happen to almost every science fiction show about humans trapped in some alien bullshit/part of space
Same with Andromeda as well. The premise of a man emerging from the event-horizon of a black hole into a new galactic dark age is fucking great, him trying to restore civilization is a great overarching plot. Then they just abandoned it by the second season or something by suddenly showing him holding some political talks and everything was more or less fine.
the communication stones were the bum knee of the show. i don't think they should have gotten rid of them all together, just not make them available all the time. like they only work when not in ftl because the stone device was reverse engineered. that way it could only be used to check in for short periods, at least until the show had a chance to get on it's feet.
>manages to figure out Ancient code better than Daniel motherfucking Jackson despite having no knowledge of it
It was Ancient code and obscure maths. Honestly outsourcing it to gamers who will obsess over solving it doesn't bother me that much, if McKay, Carter and Rumplestiltskin can't solve the problem someone else might get lucky.
I don't mind him being a badass, it just bugs me that they felt the need to have him shit all over a guy who's jacked up on super steroids and has a century (or centuries?) of combat experience over him.
They basically Worf Teal'c just to make the Atlantis crew look better than SG-1.
>>64606161 Even I could see that Universe was shaping up, and I fucking HATED the first season, along with pretty much everything to do with the Eli character.
>completely pull the rug on the Atlantis crew to do Universe instead, forcing them to quickly write an ending >lie about giving them a movie to wrap up >give up on Universe when the writing was finally picking up
>>64596335 Because they desperately tried to make a grimderp BSG clone after that show became popular. This lost most of the Stargate fans almost immediately and a combination of unlikeable characters and stupid writing ("Let's fart around on Earth with this personality swap gizmo instead of swapping bodies with top scientists who might FIX THE FUCKING SHIP) lost most of the remaining viewers/
>>64606748 >They show him being more badass than Teal'c throughout the series.
No, they just show him being badass. Ronon never dual-wielded P90's or anything stupidly "badass" like that.
>Ronan fights Teal'c to a standstill
Wasn't Teal'c off the alien steroids by then? Don't really remember. Either way, having them be equals in a sparring match is hardly shitting all over Teal'c. And of course Ronon fought wraiths better. He's spent his entire life hunted by them. It'd be bullshit if he was better at fighting Goa'uld.
I don't really remember much of late SG-1, though. Did he get a tiny bit weaker after getting rid of the symbiote, with the plus being that he no longer needed a symbiote to survive, or am I remembering that wrong?
>>64608452 Yeah pretty sure he got a bit weaker and healed slower when he started taking the symbiote-replacement drug, Tritonin. I can't remember if he had to keep taking it forever or if they just wrote it out.
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