Is anyone else sick of the "LOL Prequels sucked" meme. yes Jar Jar was annoying, but TPM, had lots of cool stuff. It had interesting concepts like the trade federation (explaining how the empire got all the material and shit to build their death stars and armies, etc). Also the pod racing gave us a look at what people in the Star wars universe do for recreation.
I mean there are some bad things too, sure, but I'm sick of this narrative that JJ Abrams is saving Star Wars. The prequels hold up well as part of the canon set up films. And at least they tried new things. As much as I thought the first two acts of the new film were good, the last third was a lazy death star rehash that made no sense.
I think a lot of people rewatched the OT in preparation for FA, we realised it wasn't as good as nostalgic 45 year olds would have us believe and FA was 8/10 at best. It made us appreciate the prequels for what they are - fun children's films, just like the rest of star wars.
The prequels did suck. For every interesting new location or ship, you had at least two dozen lines of terrible dialogue and confusing plot to deal with. There was also the objectively shit things that were introduced, Yoda's lightsaber, Jarjar, kid Anakin, the space koreans, the battle droids being stupid comic relief, the list goes on and on. George Lucas had some cool designers under him, but it doesn't mean shit in the actual movies because they're so put together.
Clone wars era stuff made by compotent people, portions of the animated show, battlefront, etc. can be pretty good, but the prequels themselves are garbage.
>Jar Jar, a bit of an annoying character we see for one movie and then in the background for two scenes in another movie
>"TPM SUCKS I HATE JARJAR LITERALLY THE WORST THING EVER"
>C3PO, at least as annoying as Jar Jar, appears in EVERY FUCKING STAR WARS MOVIE
>"le classic droid"
Fuck everyone who thinks TPM is worse than ANH. They're fun children movies (hint: "children"), just because you grew up on the latter and weren't expecting to see so much politics in the prequels doesn't mean it sucks.
Grow the fuck up.
>TPM, had lots of cool stuff. It had interesting concepts like the trade federation (explaining how the empire got all the material and shit to build their death stars and armies, etc). Also the pod racing gave us a look at what people in the Star wars universe do for recreation.
None of these things we needed to know.
>And at least they tried
That they did. :^)
They are not contrarian. People like OP are part of the prequel generation and genuinely think that the worst high budget movies ever made have redeeming qualities because they loved watching Yoda jump around like a monkey when they saw Attack of the Clones as children. People actually like the prequels now because of nostalgia. Lucas single-handedly destroyed cinema by pandering to children.
I didn't like the prequels that much when they came out. Then a few years later I watched the Red letter media films about them and joined the hate bandwagon.
Rewatched recently and don't think they are that bad actually. There's some nice ideas and concepts. The only major problem is the lack of a "regular guy" like Han Solo, or Finn. Everyone is a royal or senator or jedi
When I was a kid, I thought the prequels were awesome. They still can be fun to watch, but It is really hard for me now not to notice the bad dialogue/acting and confusing plot points.
Then again, these movies were made for kids.
considering star wars made around 2.8 billion, accounting for inflation, over the course of it's theatrical run(s), it seems it managed to connected with a rather large number of demographics.
Otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it anymore.
I used to sometimes think about the prequels and remember that they actually had quite a lot in them and some of it seemed cool.
Then I went back and watched them
> trade federation that wants to blockade trade
> pod racing 30 minute detour were they bet their ship and only way off tattoine on 'the chosen child' in a retarded race
> 'darth maul'
> the sith have not been seen in 4000 years
> darth maul appears. nobody says anything
> none of the characters having any actual notable/memorable personalities aside from fucking jar jar
Phantom Menace is largely irredeemable garbage. No sense of pacing (the fucking 30 minute podracing scene that goes nowhere, does nothing, and serves no story purpose), a ludicrous story (see: everything about the trade fed), wooden acting from everyone except Ewan (a recurring theme in the prequels), and of course the gungans.
That said, I do think AotC and RotS get kind of a bad rap. Their dialogue is kind of atrocious on every level (ONLY A SITH DEALS IN ABSOLUTES), but there are some genuinely good movies inside them trying to get out. The beginnings of a police state in Clones and Sheev's various machinations along with the total destruction of Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship in Sith are pretty good cinema. Dampened a bit by the dialogue and Hayden's lousy line delivery and permanent scowl, but there is some merit in them.
What merit though? It's just a classic rise of hitler/fall out of brothers story. I mean i'm not saying that's not a plotline I don't enjoy, just asking what is it that specifically makes parts of AotC and RotS stand out?
Star Wars was never about originality. The plotlines you mention are just told well (imo anyway) and have huge, galaxy-wide stakes that a more high-class movie never could. Plus, Ian McDiarmid is just so much fun to watch.
The problem is that the last movie implies he can manipulate the thoughts and actions of principal characters to such a degree that you wonder why he created elaborate schemes instead of just making everyone do his bidding from the start
It´s just like i read on another thread:
"The new movie made the prequels instant classics"
It changed our view. And thank God it did. Because it´s time to stop mistreating the genius that created the sci fi bible we all love.
The prequels fail in PRODUCTION, the casting the animators and designers are terrible in many ways with special focus on the casting.
What fucked the prequels was the casting and actor direction. With proper people (and of course supervision, Lucas did fail on that) these movies would be EPIC.
Just imagine a bad ass actor playing anakin. Imagine a no kids toy pressure star wars. Jesus, just imagine that. How "dark knight" it could be.
But Lucas failed on focusing more on the action and pop sales has the main vibe on the prequels. But if you look deep into the story you see that the rise of Vader was lame but we had a EPIC one: PALPATINE! He was the star of the prequels, his human deception and then the revelation of his true form.
Lucas is a genius and he balances the soul of the saga, in all 6 movies = Brutal darkness / light or love.
Why did he sold the saga to disney? He needed the money? LOL
Of course not. He did what the people vs lucas asked. Let star wars go, give it to us THE FANS THE FANS THE FANS! Now look at this shit. Fucking JJ Abrams and pals make teen movies!
Who´s laughing now? WE WILL MISS LUCAS, TRUST ME!
Thank you and SORRY Geroge Lucas.
I've always liked the prequels but I recognized that they are total shit.
>Palpatine's lightsaber fight with the other Jedi reveals a completely different technique than has been seen before. The chancellor uses his weapon like a fencing foil, striking with the tip. Since the beam cuts through any substance, this makes even a small strike a killing blow. Except for Mace Windu, all the other Jedi use the edge, which requires a wide space to deliver a stroke. This explains why Palpatine was able to kill so many Jedi in such a short amount of time.
Why are the Jedi retarded?
I used to be a prequel hater until I realized every criticism directed towards them can be applied to the OT too. Also, TFA is lifeless. I now enjoy the original 6 as the popcorn movies they were made to be.
TFA might be majorly lacking in life but the prequels are so bad as to make any 'life' that loveable lucas wanted to give them unintelligible.
yes in the abstract when you think about what was in them, retrsospectively, it's clear the world and character have been put together with a lot of love and attention. but when you are actually watching it? you can't even notice that kind of shit because the movies themselves just make so little sense you cannot possibly view them from any other perspective than basically laughing at them and seeing some cool star wars shit go down. which is what tv does now and probably why at least some people say they're not so bad --- remember people were going in to see these things thinking they'd be as awesome as the original star wars yo