>"You have no proof Snoke is Plagueis!"
>Yfw the official Force Awakens soundtrack titled "Snoke" is the music that plays when Sheev tells Anakin the tale of Darth Plagueis the wise
Good luck defending this one, faggots.
>JJ even had to steal pre-Palpatine
Why exactly is the new movie seen as better than the prequels again?
Because the prequels are hot garbage and it served as a reminder that Lucas cannot write dialogue to save his fat fucking face.
Natalie Portman was alright but it's painful to watch her deal with some of the material.
Nice catch OP, people usually don't pay much attention to music, yet it's often part of the storytelling as much as what's actually going on onscreen.
I definitely support the theory Snoke might be Plagueis, but it really comes down to whether the new films take the prequels into account or not.
Also, what if Snoke isn't actually a hologram, but a force ghost ? If Sidious really did kill him but he was also the first to find the path to immortality even before Yoda and Obiwan, it would make sense he's been a force ghost ever since.
JJ said there was no way he was directing John Williams, so Williams just kind of did what he thought was best.
Lucas was always heavily involved with the sound side of his films. Even the sound effects in TFA sound kind of weak and muted
What sound design? BB-8 wasn't bad but everything else was just old Star Wars, mixed quietly, with a nonexistent score
Except for the Xwing blasters making some quiet "fweefweefweefweefwee" noise
... it's taken you this fucking long to note the similarities between those pieces of music?
It's obviously Plageuis, the leitmotif shows that. Why are people still acting like this is news?
Yeah, Serkis says it's not, but that'll be some "certain-point-of-view" nonsense stemming from Plageuis abandoning the ways of the Sith.
>tfw Plagueis figured out immortality after all and is now a Dark Side Force wraith
>when sheev struck him down, Plagueis became more powerful than sheev could possibly imagine
>implying it's Plagueis
>when snokein fact is an ancient evil, who covertly turned one of Luke's closest apprentices to the dark side right under the noses of everyone
He's Exar Kun, stupid.
>the prequels were good movies
They weren't, senpai. Episode 1 is full of childish humor, terrible dialogue, wooden performances and it's an unnecessary movie. You can watch Episode 2 without having seen 1 and you wouldn't have missed anything. Episode 3 is definitely a lot better than the other prequels but it's also marred by terrible dialogue and wooden performances. Plus the special effects in all of the prequels have aged like milk.
>i watched the plinkett video like 10 times
>Plus the special effects in all of the prequels have aged like milk.
True, but oh man, I just watched the LOTR trilogy again and holy shit the special effects in the first have aged even worse.
>prequel special editions when
I can understand liking Revenge of the Sith but The Phantom Menace is inexcusably bad. The pace is as slow as a snail, the political talks are extremely dull, some of the dialogue is so bad it's laughable, everyone delivers a terrible performance thanks to George's terrible script and direction, Darth Maul is a ridiculously overrated non-character, Jar Jar is one of the unfunniest characters of all time and Anakin is a flaming Mary Sue. The only redeeming part of the movie is the score.
The editing in TPM is bad, but that's Lucas getting back in the chair after 15 years away from it. His rust was definitely showing.
And he couldn't recut it because everything had to fit into his ring composition
Considering how the thing that made Plagueis special was that he knew how to create life through the force, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to suppose his force ghost could reanimate his own body after being assassinated.
How about the opening sequence from both movies
>Vader's shuttle flies right to left
>Jedi ship flies left to right
>spherical bad guy ship
>Vader's shuttle lands with a high-angle shot from the right
>Jedi ship lands with a low-angle shot from the left
It's confirmed Snoke is NOT a Sith.
This obviously means he is NOT Darth Plagueis.
It's stuff that happens literally at the same time in both movies, but flipped in the prequel
The song is called "Palpatine's teachings." At this point it's more or less "corruption theme." The same theme plays multiple times during the movie, including when Anakin is fucking up jedi.
I honestly feel bad for the Plagueis people. It takes a lot of autism to think that Disney is running at 3 year long conspiracy cover up of a character nobody knows and nobody would care about. It takes a lot of self delusion to think that Disney cares about a minor and irrelevant character like Plagueis, and takes even more to think they would hide him from the public.
Oh well, only 3 more years until people finally realize Snoke is an OC character.
>Kahn, the most famous Star Trek villain from the most critically acclaimed Star Trek film that saved the Star Trek franchise in a quasi Wrath of Kahn remake
>is totally comparable to throwaway line about an obscure character, that the creator and director considered irrelevant to the plot of Star Wars, only known to the most autistic of neckbeards
How does this even happen? I don't even.
>Kylo is a Vader fanboy
>kills a lot of people and then gets rekt by the first untrained Force user who comes along
>Snoke is a Plagueis fanboy
>causes untold death until Luke Skywalker shows up and slaps Snoke's shit mercilessly
I'm just saying JJ lies about stuff because muh mystery
Technically, there shouldn't be any more sith, right? That whole deal about "there's always one master and one apprentice." The master and apprentice both died at the end of RoTJ, so where would a new sith have come from?
That's why I think it makes no sense for them to still be around. Also, the whole prophecy thing about Anakin being the chosen one that would defeat the Sith was supposedly confirmed when Vader killed Sheev.
Right, the Sith are gone. Anyone who wants Plagueis actually wants a huge retcon that shits all over the other six films.
But then Plagueis people don't seem to be very good at thinking rationally in the first place.
>There's one of these for every film
>Films in a series have similarities
>People think this is relevant
Complain to Lucas if you don't like the semantics. He meant balanced as is healthy body maintaining homeostasis. The Sith are cancer, and Anakin brought balance to the galaxy by wiping out the cancer of the Sith from the force.
Either way, the Sith are gone form Star Wars.
Except dark side users are an unbalancing cancer on the force, whether they call themselves Sith or not. No matter what, the sequels have already trashed the whole prophecy, although the EU had already done that anyway. I suppose you could say Anakin fucked it all up too much to actually fulfil the prophecy properly.
tldr; calling them Sith doesn't ruin the prophecy, its already ruined
Disney just don't care. The entire plot was used in children's books years prior, as were the names and roles of villains in toylines. Withholding storyline details from the soundtrack is too much care and effort for modern Disney.
>f Sidious really did kill him but he was also the first to find the path to immortality even before Yoda and Obiwan, it would make sense he's been a force ghost ever since.
That would be kinda shit in my opinion, since it invalidates the notion that the light was the only true path to immortality.
It's amazing how shit like this goes by unnoticed and also does absolutely nothing to improve the shit story, writing and performances of the prequels.
Also, Lucas didn't edit any of these so don't give him credit there.
>Except dark side users are an unbalancing cancer on the force, whether they call themselves Sith or not.
Not according to the creator of Star Wars. It's the Sith that are unbalancing themselves, not just any darksiders.
>No matter what, the sequels have already trashed the whole prophecy
Not until any Sith appears, which they won't, so it's fine.
you would probably use that same argument for Rey not being a Skywalker but admit it senpai its just lazy writing. This is Star Wars. If the entire series came out in order (the way Lucas apparently wanted to) everybody would have known Vader is Luke's father. You're reading into it too deep because as someone watching this new "reboot"-esque trilogy you assume everybody must be new. Like honestly, who the fuck else could Snoke be if not Plaguise or an entirely new character? And if he IS an entirely new character he better have an interesting as fuck back story otherwise he'll seem like just Sheev 2.0
The only one who talks about the Chosen One in terms of specifically destroying the sith is Obi-Wan, who was shown to be extremely caught up in Jedi philosophy, rarely seeing the bigger picture.
Regardless, it doesn't make any sense that dark side users only corrupt the force when they decide to call themselves a four letter galactic basic word, not when they use the force to massacre innocent.
I don't really care myself for the explanation, but for whatever reason, the Sith are unique in their perversion of the force according to Lucas. Regular Darkside users just don't know how to piss the force off it seems. Apparently no one triggers the Force like the Sith do. Although that kind of stuff is only explored in the EU.
>But its hot garbage with good dialogue
"YER HAN SOLO! AND THIS IS THE MILLENIUM FALCON!"
Carrie Fisher's whole performance
>and good cgi
Death of Han Solo
>and practical effects
every alien costume has less textures than an Unreal video game.
Prequels were better in every regard, we're just too close to the hype that people haven't seen through the shit yet.
The Plagius theory needs to be true. Disnet cant just pull villians out of their ass. It would be a good reason o why Luke never restored balance
>I just watched the LOTR trilogy again and holy shit the special effects in the first have aged even worse
Not sure if this is true, but LotR was vastly less reliant on CGI than the prequels, where a minimum of ten stupid CGI things are stuffed into pretty much every shot.
There was a thread on reddit explaining this, Lucas uses several takes-specific words to compile into a single sentence/scene. That's why Ani's face morphs weirdly, cause it was different takes. Weird as fuck.