As a kid I grew up going to catholic and "christian" churches and schools. There is a distinct difference between the two. Christians take what Jesus said and try to live by it. Catholics have built an order based on what Jesus said. The difference is Catholics revere the order, not the words. They're more interested in the pomp and circumstance of being Catholic instead of doing what was said.
That is how children were hurt. They created a class of aristocracy, priests, bishops and cardinals, who felt they were above it all and who thought they could get away with anything.
The vast majority of Christians in the world are Catholics. By orders of magnitude. Catholicism is the Church founded by Christ and the rest are heretics and schismatics. There is only one path that encompasses the fullness of salvation, and it is found in Roman Catholicism.
Getting upset about priests who molested children at a rate of 100x less than public school teachers is mudslinging and also the Donatist heresy. Go to hell, do not pass go.
>>64558697 It's literally the opposite though when done right. The Catholic Church is an institution but it teaches to follow Jesus's message and not to take events in the Bible literally. Only Protestant heathens believe that every myth in The Bible is some historical account and every little rule is direct from God.
>>64559358 Catholics are the ones who put the Bible together for one. If it is indeed the Word of God, it is because Catholics said it is.
This is because if you actually read the Bible, you find that Jesus left a CHURCH, not a book. The Bible mentions priests forgiving sins, bishops, deacons, etc. Nowhere does it mention Pastor Bob building megachurches to put his own spin on things or reading the Bible out of context of the Catholic Church's teachings.
>>64559424 False, Orthodoxy is a schismatic heresy. You all pretend like you're so traditional but the facts state otherwise. Abortion rates in Ortho countries. The gates of Hell literally prevailed against your church with Muslims appointing bishops and LITERALLY every seminary closed under the USSR. God was telling you something.
1 Clement demonstrates papal authority. You broke away from the Vicar. You will go to hell if you know this and willingly decide to be hipstery with your hipster church.
>>64559715 Are you literally stupid? Did you know that John wrote the Gospel?
>Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
>>64558990 Catholicism is 'the' Church, the original sect of Christianity. It is the most essential of the Christian sects, as all else derived from it or reacted to it. Eastern Orthodoxy came about as a breakaway from the Roman Catholic Church, the Schism, hence the name 'Eastern' Orthodox (centered in the eastern Byzantine capital of the empire). The Protestant denominations (Calvinism, Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist, etc) were all breakaways from the Catholic church throughout history.
Catholicism is technically the 'true' orthodoxy of Christianity, with all else being a response to it.
I went to catholic schools run by nuns, mind you all my childhood. Other than the mandatory "religious studies" class once a week in which we were supposed to pray once or twice but were never forced to it was pretty much a secular school.
>>64559875 >Catholicism is 'the' Church, the original sect of Christianity. It is the most essential of the Christian sects, as all else derived from it or reacted to it. Eastern Orthodoxy came about as a breakaway from the Roman Catholic Church, the Schism, hence the name 'Eastern' Orthodox (centered in the eastern Byzantine capital of the empire).
This is completely wrong. Orthodox Christianity is the original form of Christianity. The Western Church gradually broke away from the original tenets of Christianity, adding and changing things as they saw fit until the combination of the filioque and the decline of the Byzantine Empire led to a formal split.
>>64558488 The important issue at heart here is that the Catholic church had institutionalized molestation: the Vatican created a policy to relocated priests whose action created controversy in their respective diocese (communities), and had an extensive legal network to deal with accusation quietly.
A group of perverts is one thing, but a group of perverts with an effective PR and Legal team with near-unlimited funding is something else .
>>64560188 Eastern Orthodoxy is a conservative sect of Christianity (hence orthodox) that created the schism. The original 'form' of Christianity is an organized church stemming from the leadership of Saint Peter, the Pope.
Again, the Roman Catholic Church (No one calls it the Western Church) is "The" Church. Just because a group disagreed with its reforms does not make it lose its status as the originator.
This is why I hate gimmicky flicks like this. They distract the attention from the film's intrinsic cinematic quality with their clickbait topics and people end up believing they saw a great deep movie.
Did anyone else think this film just wasn't that compelling? It felt like a particularly good HBO movie, not the revelation it was purported to be. Sure you might get a supporting actor nod from someone, but it didn't feel standout insofar as "people in button down shirts investigate institutional corruptions" goes.
DAE felt like the score was ridiculously out of place. The movie was so straightforward and "cinema-verite", with no beating around bush aesthetic gimmicks, and then comes that cheesy in your face theatrical music.
>>64558398 >>64558857 Did we watch the same movie? The problem was clearly in the Catholic archdiocese. In the Church of Latter-Day Saints, we don't hold with any of that boy-diddling. Get educated, children.
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