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A harmless kids space movie or something altogether more sinister?
How long before all males are rounded up and systematically castrated?

http://disinfo.com/2016/01/star-wars-the-force-awakens-the-generational-contrast-of-malefemale-dynamics/
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the internet was a mistake
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Typical clickbait wanting to score brownie points. Ignore them.
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>>64553297
>How long before all males are rounded up and systematically castrated?

Not soon enough imo
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>>64553297
I think the "you don't need to hold my hand" was slightly over the top. It didn't feel natural for Finn to want to do that - twice.

I'm probably just overly aware of feminist bullshit, but TFA did feel like it tried a bit too much to tell us that Rey "didn't need no man".
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>>64553389
>>64553360
>things feminists say
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>>64553427
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING
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>>64553604
Only perfection
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>>64553604
A REAL WOMYN

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>>64553297
If you think about it, the original trilogy had a role model for almost everyone.

Luke, the innocent farm boy who elevates himself to new levels through training and discipline.

Han, the rogue who redeems himself by being less selfish.

Lando, the black patriarch, hard-working boss of a prosperous city-state.

Leia, headstrong, independent and highly capable/adaptable young woman bucking conventional execrations of a princess.

There's not really an Asian character unless Yoda counts, but in broad strokes it's all there and it works.

Now in TFA we have:

Rey, a young woman who is never wrong, rarely imperilled and overcomes all obstacles with total ease - because she's a girl.

Finn, a useless bumbling cowardly black man whose job it is to be subservient to the white woman.

Poe, a Latino man whose entire job is to support the white woman by leading a suicidal attack on a planetary murderball.

Han, an old white man who ultimately fails at everything and never rises above his station as the down-on-his-luck smuggler slumming it in Mos Eisley.

So who's the role model for the 79% of the audience who are young white men here?

Kylo Ren, hyper-capable murderous sociopath.
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>>64553360
>feminism was a mistake
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>>64553693
>There's not really an Asian character

There we go, being minoritized once again:-(
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Yeah, it obviously was, and no one's batting an eye. We live in a truly ass backwards reality. Thank third wave feminism and pansy, cuckold nu-male progressives.

Things could still get better, but they won't. It's really too late.
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>>64553297
Trying this hard
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>>64554025
It's called raising awareness turdlord
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>>64554025
Put that knife down bitch!
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>>64553693
>this dude gets it

What went wrong?
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>>64553604
Schumer the Hutt
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>>64553297
You faggots are worse than sjws.
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>>64554680
kek
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>>64553693
>Woman doesn't need rescuing, but the men do
>OH THE CONTROVERSY KILL ALL MEN INC
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>>64554885
btfo amy, srsly!
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>>64554885
In the original films, everyone rescues each other. Obi-Wan saves Luke, Luke saves Han, Han saves Luke, Leia save Luke and Han, etc. The point being that everyone working together as a team, to enhance their strengths and minimise their weaknesses, leads to a whole greater than the sum of its parts.

The only message TFA delivers is 'white women are perfect beings who are capable of literally anything without any effort or dedication, minorities exist to serve white women and the best you can hope for as a white man is to descend into obsolescence (Han, Luke), or be the perpetual villain to be beaten down by the white woman'.
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>>64554730
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>>64553693
>Finn, a useless bumbling cowardly black man whose job it is to be subservient to the white woman.
It's hilarious how much he is shit on in comparison to Rey for not being a pretty white girl.
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>>64555172
>the best you can hope for as a white man is to descend into obsolescence
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>>64555221
I couldn't find it funny, to be honest. If if his post was sanitation his character was raised from a baby to be a soldier. Even if he didn't have a stomach for killing he should have been at least halfway capable.

I don't understand why black people aren't legitimately furious about this. Once again they play second fiddle to the hyper-privileged white woman. The only black actress in this film was literally erased with CGI and turned into a tangerine with glasses.
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>>64553297
>Laurie A. Couture
>holistic parenting and alternative education coach

Yeah, okay.
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>>64553693
Role models dont need to be the same ethnicity and gender as you, I understand that its easier to self insert or identify with someone who is the same race and/or gender as you but your argument is kind of retarded.
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>>64553579

Very clunky writing. Once was enough to make whatever grrrl power point they were trying to make.
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>>64555495
>2016
>not into holistic parenting and alternative education
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>>64553863

He's hispanic, famiglia
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>>64555495
>holistic parenting and alternative education coach
Oh my god, do these people have no awareness of what hilarious grotesque caricatures of themselves they are?
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>>64553297
How would you like to be castrated by Rey?

Lightsaber?

Force ball crush?
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>>64555495
>>64555957
btfo ya'll

H.O.M.O for life!!
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>>64556024
>teeth
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>>64555768
way to miss the point
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>>64556024
Fucked at 1000000 kmh, causing massive blunt trauma
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>>64556052
I am 75% sure this is some kind of front for a cult.
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>>64553693
>not really an Asian character unless Yoda counts
what the FUCK my dear lord
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>>64556164
You JUST know those kids have been tampered with
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>>64556052
>tfw rey will never grab your balls with the force
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>>64555324
>that reaction
Dick is diamonds. Ahhhhh... The things I would like to do with her...
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>>64556262
>and squeeeeeeze
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>>64556297
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>>64553579
They did make him a creep, but that part was understandable. Rey protesting the hand holding seemed stupid given the circumstances.

The real problem is there was no sense of reality in their interactions. They had no chemistry.
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>>64555768
Literally reddit
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>>64556297
rey is a nice girl and would never do that
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>>64553297
>>All previous six movies being about guys with just one token woman who increasingly becomes background.
>>One movie where a woman is the main character with an all male supporting cast who are all competent and good characters.
Okay.
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>>64553297
Without Finn, Rey would have died on the Starkiller base. He came back specifically to save her.

Without Han and Poe, the base would not have been destroyed. Were you watching the film?
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>>64553693

Capable, but has issues
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>>64555768
>Role models dont need to be the same ethnicity and gender as you
Clearly mainstream society disagrees with you.
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>>64556719
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>>64553579
but Anon, if Rey didn't tell him how to be a man, how would he know how to be a man?
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I want to cuddle her forever
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>>64556807
>muh gamergate
I thought that was about combating filthy journalism practices, no?
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>>64556945
Yeah just like this thread is discussing unhealthy gender dynamics
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>>64556994
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>>64555212
>still posting this meme image
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>>64555768
fucking this
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>>64556945
>filthy journalism practices
you mean like using Star Wars to bait people into reading a blog post about muh soggy knee?
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>>64555324
Man jawed British whore who can't act.
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>>64555768
This is bullshit, most children / young adults don't identify with people from other race.
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>>64557342
>tfw no qt jedi gf
I wanna end the pain pham
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>>64556024
This is a very difficult question. I must meditate on this.
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>People are gonna look back in "x" amount of years and laugh about how fucking stupid it was the time when directors and feminists and whatnot was pushing interracial and female empowerment agendas

r-right?
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>>64557526
Wait for VR. The waifu age is upon us
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>>64553360
Internet for normies was a mistake
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>>64556262
>>64556297
>>64557526

just feed me to a rancor already ;_;
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>>64557340

So this bitch is ADMITTING that she's as bad as the supposed "sexists" she hates?
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>>64553427
I hate this freakbitch
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>>64557615
No it's ok when she does it.
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>>64557705
>>64557782
BLACKED WHEN?
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>>64557782
>ywn be that burger
just freaking eat my flesh already wtf
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>>64557782
Why did this get me rock hard?
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>>64553297
Do you know how I know you are a beta, OP?

Alphas don't care about gender dynamics or other feminist bullshit. We don't even acknowledge feminism. Women want to be more promiscuous? Great, more pussy for us.

Alphas are the forefront of humanity. You know the predator in the jungle? That's us. The top the food chain? Us. The one who adapts to the environment? Also us. The ones who kill and are not killed. Alphas are nature's chosen champions. That's why we don't fear those social changes that got you so scared, because it doesn't matter who much power or independence women get, they'll always get wet by the mere sight of one of us.

Now you. You can stay here crying about those things while nature wipe your genes out of existence. Good riddance I say.
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>>64557818
>implying
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this kind of stupid shit is shilling to make feminists go and see the movie
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>>64557943
Okay bro
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>>64557782

GOOOOOOD.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOD.

LET THE FREEDOM FLOW THROUGH YOU!

ONCE MORE THE AMERICANS WILL RULE THE GALAXY!
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>>64558074
WHAT A SUAVE MOTHERFUCKER. I WANT ISAAC TO SODOMIZE MY BOYPUSSY
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>>64558074
he fucks his ai that he builts in his house inthe mountains and general hux is a ginger programmer fag
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>tfw thread being pruned HARD
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>>64558074
The way she flinches ;_;
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>>64553297
Just saw this on youtube, I laughed.
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>>64558255
You can tell she's been raped by the patriarchy like that before. Poor thing.
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>>64558270
>Red Pill Philosophy
I feel like this is just ironic parody at this point
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>>64558270
That video is like a /tv/ post with a face
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ITT: male chauvinist propaganda
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>>64558629

I do kinda wanna kiss her a little.
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>>64558956
Goto bed Amy
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>>64555307

with anuses for eyes.
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>>64559312
who doesn't ;_;
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>>64556742

It's beautiful.
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>>64558159
>>64558196
>>64558629
>tfw giving serious consideration to dumping my waifu for daisy
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>tfw you will never just hold her
>tfw you will never live in an alternate universe where you and Daisy are in a loving homo relationship

Firing up the helium tanks now tbqh
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>>64553693
>Kylo Ren
>hyper capable
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>>64555212
>image.jpg
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>>64553693
Oh look, it's /pol/
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god when will this meme end? Women are not suited for action adventure lead roles.

They belong in horror/survival flicks where their feminine traits actually come into play

>ie any horror movie ever, Alien, Terminator etc

Just feels wrong. Same with in TFA.
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A cute
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>>64556742
Wouldn't the blade just cut through the rim? This is inaccurate.
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>>64553297
https://archive.is/EcabD

tl;dr strong male leads should be shoehorned into films like strong female leads are
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>>64560998
>WHY DO UNREALISTIC THINGS HAPPEN IN FANTASY MOVIES
literal autism
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This Article's a lot smarter than anyone in this thread is giving it credit. People should at least read it rather than GamerGate vs SJW shitflinging.
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>>64557148
>Your only reaction is le fedora man

Back to rebbit you go.
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>>64560939
>>64560579
>>64560513
>These three replies back-to-back

Hello Reddit/Tumblr/Disney intern pool (delete as appropriate).
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>>64555768"
>Role models dont need to be the same ethnicity and gender as you
so why is important for there to be more """"POCs"""" and female representation in the media blablablbla? "Have this toy little black boy, leave whitey without one"

People like you are literally saying "IM A SOCIOPATH WHO CANT RELATE, I DONT CARE YOU'RE THE MAJORITY IN YOUR OWN HOME AND I DONT USE MY PRO-MINORITY LEFTIST ARGUMENTS FOR WHITES WHO ARE A GLOBAL MINORITY"

why should white motherfuckers try to relate to scum?
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>>64553427

her head keeps growing, but her eyes stay close together, freaky.
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>>64553297
>http://disinfo.com/2016/01/star-wars-the-force-awakens-the-generational-contrast-of-malefemale-dynamics/

She didn't really have any examples to prop up her argument.
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>>64556742

>tumblr

goddamn /tv/ gets worse every day
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>>64563224
>this reddit retort
sup reddit
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>>64563378
And I thought baseball was america's passtime, turns out it's actually racewar
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>>64563589
dont kid yourself, american media is spread everywhere and local european media is pure cuckshed echochamber
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>>64563579
Sup /hebe/.
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>>64563378
blacks became so arrogant and dumb in eating up media shit they're including latinas and asians
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>>64555768
That cuts both ways. Why do minority children and girls need minority and female role models, according to this line of logic?
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>>64563378
>5000 murders by blacks
>4000 murders by whites
>blacks are 13%
why arent there more black hippies and black guilt? this is some serious zero empathy twisted shit
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>>64553604
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>>64553693
I identify better with Finn than Han or Luke and I'm a white man. You don't really need to be their skin color to relate. I also identified better with Franklin in GTAV better than Mike or Trevor.
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>>64561072
>receding hairline on a woman
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>>64564136
so you relate to Finn because you're a selfish coward and easily swayed into pro-black white guilt, congrats on being a cuckboi
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>>64564136

I identify with C-3PO, and I'm not a droid. I am gay and autistic though.
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>>64564136
You identify with a sweaty howling gorilla?
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>>64553297
>disinfo.com

clicking a shit site
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>>64553427
Fohtooh ma Solo kaychahlah. oohh oohh oohhhhh
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>>64556798
She's so cute senpai
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>>64564297
stay edgy senpai
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>>64564136
You're an adult, though. Way to miss the point, maybe look into basic child psychology sometime.
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>>64555768
>Role models dont need to be the same ethnicity and gender as you

Good luck convincing mainstream society of that. The clamor for endlessly increasing "diversity" has reached a fever pitch. It's practically inescapable. You can't have a movie where there are scenes with only white people anymore without the media creating a shitstorm about it.
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>>64564136
wtf, mike is a bore and franklin is even worse
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>>64566236
b-b-but he's blek!
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>>64556434
>The real problem is there was no sense of reality in their interactions. They had no chemistry.
that was a problem in general. The two were going "OMG HOW DID YOU DO THAT let's have a quiet emotional bond moment now and share our names"

Same thing with Han. Apparently his death is supposed to mean something to those two
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>>64557544
No. There won't be anybody bright enough to critique it.
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>>64567726
>Apparently his death is supposed to mean something to those two
Yeah, why would it? He was only the man who confirmed the importance of their quest, brought them together to learn more about the Resistance and helped them infiltrate an enemy base at great personal risk. Might as well be a stranger on the street.
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>>64568194
Rey knows nothing of the resistance, she was captured. She told Han about shit done to the ship, he offered her a job and they never spoke again.

Finn was closer to having an actual relationship (they both share a secret about him for a while, they fight together, Han saves his life, they go on a mission together while Han is mad at him for lying but still tolerates him)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwThhlhBZqk

Stefan Molyneux dropped some truth bombs there
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>>64559955
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>>64561158
> asked for a reybot for Christmas
> got socks instead

I ALREADY HAVE DOZENS OF SOCKS AND NONE OF THEM MAKE ME NOT WANT TO KILL MYSELF
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>>64568513
>Stefan Molyneux
not into cult leaders 2bh
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