>I've outrun imperial starships, not the local cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships
What did he mean by this?
All the big imperial ships were made by Kuat Drive Yards, around the planet Kuat. If he was referring to ships made by the Corellian Engineering Corporation, they sold their ships almost solely to civilians, and were only used as a small subcontractor by the imperials for building Kuat designed ships.
He said "Imperial Starships" which doesn't necessarily mean "Imperial Warships." The Empire needs to transport goods and materials just like anybody else. Technically even a CR90 Corvette would qualify as this.
Bragging that you can outrun heavy freighters in a small freighter isn't very impressive, though.
>implying all that shit had been established at that point.
In 1977 Vader was a Sith Lord and had no master but had a political equal in Tarkin, Ben never saw R2 or 3PO before, Luke and Leia were NOT related, and Chewie never fought alongside Yoda.
I had to look it up. It's like somebody wrote it into the EU just to make that one line of dialogue make sense.
That autocratic master was presented as Tarkin who had a cabal of people who talked down to Vader while doing whatever they want in spite of him. If the sith were in charge then that would not have been the case. To the contrary Admiral Motti even talks down to Vader and his religion in a condescendinng tone
Tarken was never presented as some sort of general; he was presented as the big boss while Vader was presented as being some sort of dark side equivalent of a space-pope.
See the pic of the card. In the 70's before Palpatine was introduced in Empire, Vader was presented as "the lord of the Sith" that implied that not only were there more of them, he was the alpha.
And that was before Ep.1 decided that there's always only two of them.
And by how Vader stopped choking Motti on Tarken's commands, Tarken was clearly the man in charge and Vader was basically evil-space-pope
The rough drafts did have an Emperor character, Tarkin himself went through numerous massive changes (at one point he was in the Rebels), eventually they cut the emperor character and elevated Tarkins role to make up for his disappearance. Tarkin essentilly is a disposable stand in for Sheev
Vader was of course, always present as the Big Bad villian
So the whole "your dad fought in the clone wars and was a good friend" didn't have any meaning behind it initially beyond "your dad was a cool dude so you might be too"? I assume they were leaving things open for later movies to eventually develop?
2bh I like how the whole sexology turned out, not the individual movies (AotC..) but the overarching plot
It sounded cool at the time and it was simple world building.
Most of the shit in the prequels is either straight up retcons, or stuff he made up to fit the OT.
>I mentioned something called the clone wars, ok so now there is a war where clones are used
>Ok, so Emperor and Vader are 2 bad guys, where is the rest? Oh there is a rule of two, so there can't be more than two
>Wait, Vader tried to betray the Emperor and the Emperor wanted to betray Vade. That must mean that ALL sith always betray each other and that it wasn't just a character dynamic in the story!
It's stupid shit like that.
Nope, it didn't have any meaning. He literally meant that a man named Darth Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin. It wasn't intended to have that "from a certain point of view" thing. Though honestly, I think I liked how that played out.
Don't be a wise-ass, you know what this talk about the Emperor not being Vader's master really means.
That might be so, but Darth Vader was still never Luke's father until the Lucas made the final script changes to Episode V. Originally, Episode V was meant to be exactly the same as what we got, but didn't have the "I am your father part". Lucas added it because he felt it needed to have something with an impact in the end.
In fact, several things were most likely on the table. While this was probably just to hide the twist when James Earl Jones would do the dubbing later, during the scene, David Prowse as Vader delivered the line as:
>"Obi-Wan never told you about what happened to your father"
>"He told me enough, he told me you killed him."
>"No, Obi-Wan killed your father."
If that was the fake line delivered, I don't think it's much of a stretch that it was on the table at one point while coming up with the film. Imagine how different things would be if that was the big reveal.
You're right, with these pottery scenes added you can clearly tell this fucker was a lying cunt that is reliving his lie of being the good guy despite leaving Annie to die a slow agonising death by burns and stealing his saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RNSecaI_4
Lucas planned for Luke's father to appear in Dagobah.
Then he realized he would essentially have three similar characters, and it was kinda redundant.
Guess he didn't thought of it when creating Qui-Gon.
Can someone who knows about Star Wars explain what, if anything, makes the millenium falcon special?
Is it just a hodgepodge of great parts? Is it essentially a hatchback with a jet turbine strapped to the roof?
Plot armor. In ANH and ESB it was just a shitty freighter that was bretty fast due to being extensively modified with aftermarket parts. It wasn't until RotJ and the subsequent EU that it was deified into becoming the fastest ship ever in life.
that's because no one knows that Palpatine is a Sith outside of him.
Vader is ex Jedi and he is treated that way because of the Jedi "rebellion" and how they were exterminated for trying to kill Palpatine.