So what SW spin off shows are worth watching (if any)?
The Clone Wars
I haven't watched Rebels but I've heard mixed things about it
Clone wars volume 1+2 are great.
The clone wars might be okay after season 3 or something.
Rebels is shit but kind of watchable.
Caravan of courage and battle for endor are very shitty, but not as bad as I remembered them.
Droids is not very interesting. But there was a dvd with some more watchable episodes on it.
Ewoks is just plain retarded. The poor mans gummi bears.
Holiday special is not bearable at all.
There are also very few good fanfilm shorts. Stay away from shitty 2hour films. But bounty trail for example is okay.
Why does everybody say Rebels is shit?
It literally captures the Star Wars vibe better a thousand times over Clone Wars.
Clone Wars is just shitty war porn for kids, dry plots (save this planet, HOSTAGES, we need to work with our enemies) recycled over and over.
Rebels has adventure, magic, and likable characters.
>there are adults who seriously watch saturday morning cartoons
>cartoons and anime were even remotely the same thing.
Some of the most popular American cartoons were made by Japs, making them essentially anime at the same time.
No, anime is not just any old animation that's done in Japan. It's a Japanese form of animation and storytelling.
According to the credits on ANN, several American directors and producers worked on it, and the scripts and storyboards were done in America. The character design and music were American as well.
Rebels is mediocre and sterile. Space Alladin with slingshot is kinda of a stupid design, Ahsoka is somehow less kickass than she was 15 years ago, Sabine is shit, inquisitors are grossly incompetent, Chopper and Zeb are mostly comic reliefs, old guys not having nearly enough screentime etc.
I'm not pretending that Clone Wars was perfect, especially early on, and episode order was beyond retarded (to the point where you need a special list to watch episode in chronological order( but it's been consistently more interesting than Rebels so far.
Of course a large series like Transformers is going to have multiple directors working on it, and naturally Hasbro worked closely with the Japanese animators to get the robot designs right to sell more toys but the core of the animation production was done in Japan. The series director is Japanese namely Kozo Morishita.
from what little I've seen it just looks kind of stupid. I get the rebels are supposed to be a diverse set of species fighting to restore the republic but all the characters are kind of shitty.
Ahsoka is the worst of all since she feels way less of a badass then she used to be
There was way too much American involvement.
This is a classic cartoon:
This is contemporary American animation:
This is anime:
Unless you have some brain problem it should not be difficult to see what the differences are.
Trying to make American animation and anime seem similar would require cherry-picking. Shows like SU, Adventure Time, MLP, Archer, Boondocks and Simpsons are very much representative of today's American animation, and they aren't anything like anime. With movies it's also pretty clear what the differences are.