How does /tv/ justify holding elitist opinions on film whilst liking and defending the prequel trilogy? To me that's like being a literature elitist whilst defending Mills & Boon books.
That's fair enough, you don't have to justify shit to me. However to me it feels like doublethink to simultaneously hold elitist opinions about films and nitpicking every last thing whilst defending the prequel trilogy which at best are very flawed albeit fun action movies.
Apparently the prequels were "redpilled" and had "integrity" and "ambition" because they weren't "reddit pandering" or "catering to SJWs" which makes them a kinegraphic magnum opus
If mainstream opinion turns critical on TFA watch the fucking Nathan Barleys on this board u-turn and start harping on about how TFA is even better than Empire
pleb tier = thinking the prequels are good
reddit tier = thinking the prequels are the worst thing ever
patrician tier = realizing the prequels do some interesting things and have some redeeming qualities
>If mainstream opinion turns critical on TFA watch the fucking Nathan Barleys on this board u-turn and start harping on about how TFA is even better than Empire
Why do idiots always fall back on this?
That would not happen because TFA has no ambition and no artistry.
A few years ago would have ever believed that /tv/ would start circle jerking over how the prequels were really a misunderstood masterpiece? Obviously anything is possible. As long as an opinion is popular it will not be held by /tv/ or 4chan in general
We're flatulent, feckless hypocrites but find it easier and more self-flattering to justify our position by making a big stink about how people like you don't "get" /tv/. Reddit moar liek PLEBBIT amirite /tv/bros?
>TFA has no ambition and no artistry.
Neither did the prequels, as has been recognised for this board for as long as it's existed, but they're currently getting their dicks ridden by this /tv/ because le nigger le reddit le mary sue
>A few years ago would have ever believed that /tv/ would start circle jerking over how the prequels were really a misunderstood masterpiece?
what else did you expect? I'll have you know being an internet hipster is serious business
>Of course the prequels have ambition. They're pretty big in scope.
One man's "big in scope" is another man's "bloated"
We'll never know. Perhaps George envisioned a grand and sweeping plot and failed, or perhaps he just had to keep writing and writing and writing as the story spiralled out of control
the best thing to do is probably to judge on outcome rather than intention, and in this case we have "solid and safe flick" and "three fucking retarded trainwrecks"
Great, so you're advocating, what, some kind of cultural marxist approach to filmmaking where The Room is just as good as Lawrence of Arabia because both directors intended to make good movies
I'm no prequel defender, and I rate Force Awakens a solid 7, but in retrospect it does make the prequel trilogy look much more ambitious- and also in a sense artistic, in that so much of it is one man's vision. But they fail utterly as films.
Just wait until a critically acclaimed reboot is released in any of the marvel franchises and people will start talking about how the avengers was a masterpiece and Thor: the dark world was a misunderstood classic of cinema
Prequel defenders deserve to be ridiculed.
TFA was not a brilliant movie.
That will never change just how fucking dreadful the prequels were and I suspect most of those defending them are not old enough to have witnessed them first hand in the cinema
fuck, I was 7 when Menace came out and I was old enough to realise something terrible was happening
>it's a reddit thinks /tv/ is one person episode
Its 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' psychology.
When TFA was released all its pleb fans were saying it 'stuck two fingers up at the prequel trilogy', and 'thank god it erased all memories of the prequels' creating a TFA v The Prequels dynamic. Since TFA was palpably shit yet somehow praised on release, people rally around its 'rival', the prequel trilogy.
Look at all this artistic vision
Pretty appropriate that a thread beginning with Todd Howard devolved into a TFA thread. Fallout 3 and 4 are just like it in that they make empty gestures toward the originals without really getting into the spirit / idea of them. Focus group tested pablum.
I don't think anyone wants to argue that seriously. It's hard to take the NMA types seriously with the way the series went off the rails in the hands of Interplay. Even Fallout 1 and 2 have a bit of discord, then Tactics took the thing really far afield.