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why are they always the bad guys in every movie?
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why are they always the bad guys in every movie?

is there a movie where they're the good guys?
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>>64536611
Because they're bad guys in real life.
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>>64536611
Lighter is a good guy in Bond.

Jack Bauer is basically the same thing

Uh....Charlie Wilson's War?
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>>64536611
This is one. Hitchcock was one of the few to buck the postmodern trend of America-shaming in Hollywood.
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>>64536611

>mfw the CIA shitposts on /tv/
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>>64536664
How if they protect us from terrorism??
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>>64536843
>>>/r/eddit
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>>64536611
Somebody didny pay attention to his memes
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>>64536611
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>>64536805
He was also the very first to show the CIA in a negative light in the first place. North by Northwest was actually considered controversial when it came out for this reason;
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>>64536611
In Homeland the CIA is generally a force for good. It doesn't act like the muslim bad guys are actually good.
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>>64536611
The sad truth is that they're probably just incompetent.
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>>64536664
>the CIA is bad because they don't take shit or let me act like a total idiot in America
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You may not have heard this, but a CIA agent is actually the protagonist of the popular 2012 superhero film The Dark Knight Rises
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>>64536611
the CIA is the most corrupt part of the government that the public knows about. the CIA does abhorrent things all the time. the CIA for sure smuggled guns into south america to fund drug wars that they profited from by selling drugs. we know this for fact.

more than likely the cia smuggled all of quadafis gold out of benghazi in exchange for arms and then killed the ambasador trying to figure it all out. but hill dog wiped the servers.

the CIA is super fucked up. if you payed attention you would know that. so it is the obvious 'secret' guy in charge of shit.
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They're the protagonists of their own Broadway musical coming in 2016
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>>64537322
>>>/x/
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>>64536611

Can't help but think of CIA from TDKR instead of the actual agency nowadays.
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>>64536912
>banepost reply 8 posts in
>in what is obviously a stealth baneposting thread
I'm disappointed it took you this long, /tv/. You've changed.
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>>64536932
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>>64536611
Because everyone else was a fucktard
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>>64537892
Reddit has infested this place, /bane/ is our only refuge now
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CIA is a subsidiary of the ZOG.

Making the CIA the goods guys would also make the ZOG look like the good guys.
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https://ciaplanescenemeaning.wordpress.com/

It seems that Baneposting is dead and all meme'd out so this should inject some life into it.
If you go to the link I put above it will take you to a page with many screenshots of The Dark Knight Rises by Christopher Nolan.
What you should do when you get there is figure out why all of the frames are related. It is semi subliminal but easy to see.
It starts in the plane scene and goes on throughout the entire movie.
It is lower than semi-subliminal but a person of average intelligence should get it.
This will either end baneposting or make it last forever due to how stupid this is.
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>>64536611
>is there a movie where they're the good guys?

Yeah, most of the Tom Clancy movies. Although the White House is portrayed as the bad guys in this one.
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>>64536611
All the Tom Clancy movies?
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>>64539737
Then wouldn't the Hollywood Jews want to make themselves, and thus the CIA/ZOG look good?
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>>64539773
Just tell us what it is or stop shilling your blog.
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>>64539896
Wouldn't it be obviously propagandistic if they made movies praising themselves?
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>>64539972
So instead of making themselves look good they make themselves look bad? That serves no purpose.
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>>64539996
''The greatest trick ninjas ever pulled was making the world think they didn't exist''
- the back of Storm Shadow's toy package (1988)
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>>64536611
Charlie Wilson's War
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like that episode of south park where the government itself spreads 9/11 and other conspiracy theories... to make itself look more effective than it actually is
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>>64541925
I think people wrongly assume the US government is super malicious, when actually it's just really incompetent.
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>>64542034
its both
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>>64540362
The original quote is about the devil.
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>>64542086
What makes you think that?
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He did literally not one single thing wrong.
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>>64539898

I cant say it out loud otherwise it otherwise you wouldnt hear it as well.
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>>64536843
The Australian version of the CIA is confirmed to shitpost on /int/

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/06/australian-dod-employee-leaked-secrets-to-4chan/

>intern tries to leak documents on /int/
>gets called fake and gay
>another off duty official sees the thread and calls it in
>thread 404'd with only 14 replies
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>>64542936
ENEMY OF MY ENEMY

BIN LADEN WAS A BUDDY AT THE TIME CUS HE WAS TERRORIZING RUSSIANS

PERFECTLY LOGICAL, CIA DOES WHATS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF AMERICA AT THE TIME
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>>64537736
You never heard of the Contras?
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>>64543019
Clinton, Trump or Ted Cruz. Americas time in the sun has come to an end.

I thought Clinton to Bush to Obama was bad. But holy fuck even the new candidates are somehow WORSE than Obama.

USA is finished.

"It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it"
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>>64542936
Who do you think the more dangerous enemy at the time was, a bunch of goatfuckers in the desert or the commie scum with a couple thousand ICBMs?
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>>64536611

Charlie Wilson's War: fighting the Soviets
Argo: rescuing the Canadians
Hal of the James Bond movies: backing up James Bond with intel and special forces
The Dark Knight Rises: fighting Bane
Most of the Tom Clancy movies: fighting the Cold War
The Bourne Trilogy: fighting an internal power struggle
Bridge of Spies: sponsoring and supporting the exchange of American prisoners from the Soviets

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few spy movies
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>>64543157
Someone who actually has no fear of getting hit by ICBMs back?
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>>64543274

>no fear

They hide in caves for this reason
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>>64536611
>is there a movie where they're the good guys?

Sicario
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>>64543346
haha wut.

Literally definition of morality gone wrong in the mexican drug war.
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>>64543267
Zero Dark Thirty
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>>64543376
Literally the definition of doing bad for the greater good, you mean
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>>64536611
Dale Cooper is an FBI agent.
So were Mulder and Scully and Clarice Starling.
OP is a faggot.
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>>64543397
> greater good

You mean that the cant seat a gang into power so they can profit from war/crime?

Jesus you are dumb.
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>>64539829
>>64539803

That's CIA, not FBI
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>>64543455
They can seat a gang into power that's less brutal and doesn't endanger civilians as much

Were you paying attention? That was the deal
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>>64543505
>They can seat a gang into power that's less brutal and doesn't endanger civilians as much
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>Were you paying attention? That was the deal
HAHAHAH

Have you any idea how vicious the MedellĂ­n Cartel were?

Bunch of cruel fuckers, just they are a bit smarter than other mexican gangs in that they don't piss of the US / CIA

Just admit it, you are dumb
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>>64543396

Zero Dark Thirty depicted the CIA doing stupid shady shit for 3/4ths of the movie which didn't pan out until a lucky tip came in and everyone zero'd in on the assassination mission. For a movie full of fictional bullshit to make the CIA look good, it still made the CIA look awful.
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>>64536611
>bad
>good

The CIA exists to protect the national interests, and to a growing degree, "the way of life" of the United States abroad. That is subjective

Good and bad are subjective and only used by children or people trying to manipulate those they think are idiots.
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>>64536611
American Dad
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>>64543528

>were

the keyword here
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>>64543536

The CIA's operational capacity and general mission statement specifically concerns itself with America's interests. But there are stories of groups or units within the CIA that make for interesting humane stories - the rare pockets of "good guys" working in an otherwise morally shady bureaucracy.
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>>64542769
Anyone in the IC who doesn't believe there are other people in the IC who browse 4chan really should talk to their coworkers more.

Shit is full of nerds.

But leave it to an Aussie to be that dumb to try to get epeen status on a mayan pictography slate.
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>>64543536
Considering their results, I don't think they are protecting anything at all

>>64543550
In American Dad CIA doesn't do anything at all. Probably because it is run by a senile Englishman.
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>>64542108
It's a quote from The Usual Suspects

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was fooling the world into thinking he didn't exist."
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>>64543596

The CIA's 'problem' is it has too much free reign and needs a leash at all times. Give them a blank check and they'll spend it on the tower of babel.
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>>64543596
Man Patrick Steward really makes that role for me. His characters got much funnier for me when I found out that he voices him.
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>>64543572
Again, whether what those groups, or the CIA as a whole, were doing being good or bad is based on perception.

A more appropriate question is, "Are the CIA effective in completing their chosen directives?"

Following that up would be, "Does the CIA minimize harm to stakeholders when completing their directives?"

>>64543596
>Considering their results, I don't think they are protecting anything at all

But there is no way of knowing all of their results or even if you have a sound sample size of their results to base that opinion on, right?

There are dead CIA agents whose identities and missions STILL are not known that died over 30 years ago. How much confidence can you have in what you think you know?
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Show me actual proof the CIA has done bad things. I'm waiting.
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>>64536611
>is there a movie where they're the good guys?
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>>64543599

It's from Charles Baudelaire you I just googled it
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>>64536611
Argo
Sicario
Zero Dark Thirty
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>>64536611
Almost all of the Tom Clancy movies.
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>>64543647
how did you not realize it immedately
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