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This is what the Box Office Chart looks like when you remove

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This is what the Box Office Chart looks like when you remove sequels and films based on pre-established characters. I only add that pre-established characters part because one of you autists will argue The Avengers isn't a sequel.

Why don't people see original films?
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>Why don't people see original films.
Bad marketing and companies not willing to spread indie/original release.

Also stop staring at Hollywood it ain't the only place publishing movies.
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>>64517254
Remove Titanic because the unsinkable molly brown
and remove Avatar because it's Dances with Pocahontas feat. Fern Gully
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>>64517254
They do see original films, they prefer to see what everyone else is talking about though.
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>>64517342
I'm not removing films that are similar to other films. Then there would be nothing left. I'm removing films based on preexisting franchises.

You'd probably have a better argument with Frozen, as one could probably argue Disney animation is a franchise in and of itself. But too bad, I'm not removing that anyway
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New films might possibly be good, and that's a risk I'm not willing to take.
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>>64517254
>frozen
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>Established franchises gross higher than new movies

Oh wow thanks for the deep socioeconomic insight into the film industry anon.
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The 23rd Bond picture grosses the highest of any previous. Pretty crazy.
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>being an original IP matters more than quality

Frozen, Titanic and Avatar are some of the worst movies on that list.
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>>64517684
Skyfall was kino tier so it deserved it.
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>>64517442
Titanic is the 13th film based on the Titanic story and borrows heavily from A Night to Remember. it should be crossed out tbqh
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If I might play devil's advocate for a moment, films based on established franchises are simply more likely to be good.


Sure, there are a lot of great indie masterpieces out there, but for every great indie movie there are hundreds upon hundreds of crappy indie garbage with bad actors and impossible to understand plot.

When you go to see a film from an established franchise, you know that they have enough budget and corporate oversight to assure that they have decent actors, a good director, enough budget for quality special effects, etc.

Furthermore, you will know ahead of time what the genre and setting are without having to read spoilers about the plot from reviews.

So, for almost all consumers, it is the correct choice to see a film based on an existing franchise rather than a new film.
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>>64517748
>skyfall
>kino tier

It's decent but not that damn great
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>>64517254
>titanic based on an historical event and previous films had already been made on the topic
>avatar is literally space cat pocahontas
>frozen is shit
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There was a recent article in one of the big newspapers that mentioned that even though the overall box office is growing, it is increasingly being done by a smaller number of movies

this means the majority of the public are really only going out to see movies that are basically cultural event type movies (aka well established properties) and everything else is trending downward

combined with much smaller margins for DVDs and anything else beyond opening weekend, its obvious hollywood is going to continue to keep making movies based on established names so they can get that initial excitement
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i hate "big name" sequels because they're preventing art house films from becoming billion dollar blockbusters.
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>>64517254
You answered your own question you fuckin retard. Because the majority of what sells isn't original.
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>>64517442
Frozen is based on an old pre existing mythological story. You lose.
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>Avatar
>Original
Not even close
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>historical event titanic

>original idea
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>>64517254

Cinema is experiencing late-capitalism. Essentially look at video games as guidance for how this will go, since the games industry has been an accelerated market of this concept.

Original ideas have too much risk. As long as consumers are happy to watch another iteration of the same schlock, that's what they'll get.

Similarly any venture that will exclude significant portions of the audience, such as an age rating >12A or complex content, will be avoided. These smaller areas will be markets in themselves of course, but the mainstay of big hollywood movies will be childrens films with a few adult jokes so that 24 year-olds can convince themselves it's different from watching powerpuff girls.
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>>64519913
>old pre existing mythological story
just call it a fairy tell you fucking autist
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>>64517885
this desu desu senpai

Franchises are simply what's popular now and for the most part they are satisfying, some are even pretty great, whether you're a fan of the genre are not. Superhero's wont be what's popular forever. Something will change, and they'll be the blockbusters of their day. Fuck knows what they'll be though.
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>>64519765
>they're preventing art house films from becoming billion dollar blockbusters
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>>64521864
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>>64517254
do you think empire strikes back sucks just because it's the second star wars movie?
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>>64522858
All of Star Wars is infantile garbage.
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>>64522897
Don't worry anon, I remember when I was an edgy 14 year old too.

Lucky for you, there's a board where you can let your teenage angst out all you want.

>>>/b/
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>>64522897
>tfw movie is for babies
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>>64522968
I am 31 years old. Star Wars set back cinema more than any other series in the history of the medium. Without Star Wars we wouldn't have adults queuing up to worship capeshit superheroes.
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>>64517254
Frozen and Titanic are adaptations. They should also be removed.
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>>64517748
Skyfall isn't even the best Craig Bond. It isn't even a top 5 Bond Film, and without question is the most overrated Bond of all time.
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>>64517254
Don't forget that Frozen is a fairy tale adaptation.
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>>64523137
Have you ever considered that the reason people go out and watch capeshit is because they want to


not everyone wants to go out and have a good night watching shitty french black and white arthouse films you NEET film critic wannabe faggot.
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>>64517707
Sad but true.
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>>64517707
Why doesn't Adi just do a kickstarter for a Dredd sequel?
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>>64523221
So you're defending lowbrow flicks. This is what /tv/ has come down to.
What's next? Are you gonna defend Adam Sandler as well? Go back to Reddit you filthy pleb.
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>>64517254
>Why don't people see original films?
Because...
Why don't you join new boards per week? Why do you keep coming back to /tv/?

It's because you enjoy /tv/ and not new boards.
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>>64523221
>they want to
And they want to because the jews have conditioned them towards self imposed infantilization.
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>>64523221
>shitty french black and white arthouse films

It's ok if you can't get into entry-level arthouse but stop saying it's "shitty", that's embarrassing.
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>>64523081
>KILLING KIDS OFF SCREEN MAKES FOR A MATURE AND GRITTY MOVIE

Don't ever compare this bullshit maturity. This is cartoon animation compared to being beaten and buried alive like Casino.
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>>64523196
it's the most average action film i've ever seen, scenes from it were cut straight from the taken movies
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>>64523420
From my perspective later era Scorcese is capeshit level too 2bh. Certainly IMDBcore.
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>>64517770
Titanic's tone and narrative emphasis are nothing like A Night To Remember, and both are "borrowing" from events that actually happened, using the same accounts as source material.
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