>TFA $8M DOMESTIC MONDAY (DOWN 75%), $14.5M OVERSEAS MONDAY

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LMAO

Star Cucks two weeks ago
>It's going to be the biggest movie of all time. Haha Cameron BTFO

Star Cucks a week ago
>It's going to be the biggest domestic movie of all time. Who cares about overseas? Hahahaha laughing at you Cameron

Star Cucks now
>So it's going to be the third biggest movie ever, how does that make it a flop, faggot? F-fuck you, n-no one even likes Avatar. Fucking c-contrarians

Everone just got back from vaacation

Worst monday of the year

Who would be going out to the moviss

>>64513895
STARKEK IN DENIAL

CHINAMEN DONT HAVE VACATION

>>64513895
Actually Germany and Japan are still on vacation, which is the sole reason why overseas hasn't flopped to sub-$10m today.

>>64513625
the people who considered it a 'must see' have already seen it, and now that more and more reviews are pointing out how lackluster it is everyone who's left are deciding not to see it

>>64513895
0/10 cry more.

THE FLOP AWAKENS

>>64513625

>JIMBO ON SUICIDE WATCH

STAR KEKS, EAT YOUR HEART OUT.

>>64513625
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>>64513859
>>64513895
>>64513899
>>64513960
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>>64514198
Shut your mouth or I'll kick your teeth down your throat and I'll shut it for you

>>64513985
>Actually Germany and Japan are still on vacation
nope

>>64514001

Can you provide links to negative reviews?
So far the consensus, not only with critics but literally every person I met since the movie came out, seems to be overwhelmingly positive.

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>>64514231
>50/50 domestic/overseas ratio

JUST

>B-but we got more money from american hands! T-thats worth more than other money r-right?

So do Avatarposters actually like Avatar, or do they just masturbate over its gigantic throbbing box office? I don't get t.

>>64514241
Where's your proof?

>>64514267
it's definetly one of Camerons weakest works but it still kicks the shit out of tfa

>>64514249
Critics like it because they're all Star Wars fan boys. Think about it. Why else would you become a movie critic/blogger. You grew up in the 70s and 80s doing shit all but playing with star wars toys.

Every person I've met has said it was 'alright' but basically a rehash of the OT.

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>>64513859

sws cucks on suicide watch

>>64513859
Hahahah

>>64514278
I live inGermany and we've benn working for the last two days.
Everyone is butthurt again that bavarians are getting wednesday off for catholic holiday bullshit

>>64513625
AHAHAHHAHAHAA STAR KEKS BTFO! WHERE ARE YOUR GODS NOW?

>>64514255

What happened to overseas not being worth shit?

Star Plebs need to be reminded of this several times a day. The idea that Star Garbage was going to make $2.7B is one of the dumbest things on this website in a long time, so they need to have it rubbed in their pleb faces for at least several more months.

>>64514252
>tfw people didn't believe me you for advance warning that the rest of the world didn't care about star wars like usa

Avatar made its box office in almost a year
Star Wars almost reaches it in 3 weeks

>>64514267

It's impossible to like Avatar unironically desu

>>64514267
It had some really good tech for the time (and arguably still for today) and a tremendous amount of work was put into it. It wasn't great as a movie but it was a fantastic achievement and it was fun to watch.

>>64514411
>What is hype and established IP
>What is hype but an unknown new IP
Someone is in denial over these circumstances.

>>64514313
Am I supposed to take the word of your faggot friends as meaning anything? I could tell you that all of my friends praised it as the second coming of Christ, but their opinions are just as worthless as yours. The professionals enjoyed it, and it doesn't really matter what you and your mouth breathing comrades thought. It's a good movie. 10/10 cry more, butthurt hater.

>>64514350
Well I was just following the information from here:

>http://german.about.com/library/blcmascalen.htm

-which says Germany's Christmas holiday period ends on the 6th.

>>64514249
Here's a good one:
>http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-star-wars-the-force-awakens-stinks-20151226-column.html

This guy appears not to be a total pleb infected with nostalgia.

Everyone is home from traveling now.
This weekend will beat Avatars fourth weekend by more than 10 mil.
Screen cap this.

>>64514249
Get your lazy ass to RT and click the 'rotten' link in TFA's page.

>>64514404
Oh don't worry I plan to post threads about it daily

>these manchildren ACTUALLY made predictions ranging from $3b WW to TFA beating Gone with the Wind's adjusted $3.5b gross

How delusional can you get?

>>64514267
It's at least very inspired and technically innovative, which sets it leagues above generic garbage like TFA, Jurassic World, etc.

>>64514267
Most of /tv/ loves Cameron and so should you.

He's not a company man. He didn't get where he is because of nepotism. He's not got a multinational corporation behind him. Jim was a truck driver who wrote screenplays in his spare time. All the success that's come to him has been from his own hard work, dedication, creativity and risk taking. He makes movies for himself, and right now, he has two passion projects sitting at the top of the list for the highest grossing films of all time.

The conglomerates scramble behind him to try and match his success.

B A S E D

>>64514313
Yeah I'd agree with you on that one m8.

"Alright" describes the movie fairly accurately. Big images, beautiful props/costumes/visuals in general for all the fanservice, but lazy-as-fuck, heartless hollywood-filmmaking.
I literally buried my face in my hands when they revealed the death star plot.

Abrams probably thinks it serves as an hommage lol

>>64513859
>Star Cucks a week ago
>>It's going to be the biggest domestic movie of all time. Who cares about overseas? Hahahaha laughing at you Cameron

But this is exactly the case. It's going to be the biggest movie of all time domestically, and the second or third biggest movie internationally.

>>64514459
That's schools I think.
I'd gladly take a pic of my eyebags if that proves anything.
Also it varies from Bundesland to Bundesland and the catholic south gets a few more days.

>>64514519
Avatar's 4th domestic weekend was $50.3m. It's unlikely.

If you're talking about overseas though, Avatar has already beaten TFA's 2nd and 3rd weekends overseas so 4th is a lock at this point desu.

>>64514546
Odds are, Jim works harder than any /tv/irgins.

>>64514537
no you wont

after its over no one will care and no one will respond to the bait

>>64514618
>he doesn't know how upset star cucks get when their precious franchise is insulted

TOP

>>64514411
Literally no other movie, save maybe another Cameron one--Titanic, has made money on the trajectory that Avatar did. A "slow and steady one." They all make most of their money within 3 weeks or so and then drop off. There's no reason to expect TFA to follow suit. In fact, there's more reason to think TFA will continue the trend of rapid drop off--it's large initial earnings were in large part due to a massive marketing campaign and the holidays. These things aren't working it its favor 3 weeks later. It's finished. I guess it has a *chance* to beat Titanic though.

TFA is a typical blockbuster, why is that so hard to grasp?

>New hyped as fuck movie comes out
>Normies and mainstream audiences go to it in doves
>They chew it up for a few weeks
>Then they spit it back out and forget it ever existed later

It's the blockbuster cycle.

>>64514592
>tripfag
>laughable opinion

Seems about right.

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>>64514456
>needing validation from "professionals" in watching movies
>being this fragile in your own opinion that the movie was good

Kek Star Cucks ABSOLUTELY BTFO

>>64514255
It is

>>64514249
people watching it on their iphones don't miss anything
it's just a crappy nostalgic dialogue movie
all the planets look just like Earth
the destruction of the super death star planet is like a history channel reconstruction of the destruction of the original death star
it's watchable but not anything great or new

>>64514667
Gotta filter them all, anon

>>64514667
It's not an opinion, it's a fucking fact. It's literally going to be the highest grossing film of all time domestically, and the third or second highest grossing world wide.

>>64514456
3/10, too obvious, some bits of truth though and made me reply

george lucas has more hair than james cameron.
im pretty sure that bothers jim more than if his film grossed more money.
every time jim looks in the mirror he sees george lucas's full manly head of hair taunting him.

some things money cant buy.

>>64514592
Even the tripfags are making sense. Truly a dark time for /tv/.

IT'S OVER

STAR WARS IS FUCKING FINISHED

FINISHED
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>>64514546

BASED JIMBO KEKING THE JEWS.

>HOW CAN THEY COMPETE?

>>64514456
>The professionals enjoyed it. It's a good movie.

Since you're a mindless consumer as your quote clearly proves, it's no wonder you actually like and defend a generic children's space movie.

>>64514255
It literally is, though. Studios get about 50-60% of domestic grosses, and around 10-20% of Chinese and other Asian grosses.

>>64514673
>ITS SHIT BECAUSE I SAID SO
We can play this game all day, faggot

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Imagine if it DIDNT beat Jurassic World worldwide?

My dick would be diamonds.

>>64513960
>CHINAMEN DONT HAVE VACATION
chinamen also havent gotten the film yet. Doesnt come out in China until Jan. 9th.

>>64514700
>things that haven't happened and will not happen
>fact

you sure convinced me with those hot opinions, into the filter you go

>>64514383
China happened.

>>64514650
Exactly, anon. A lot seem to forget that too. TFA is textbook blockbuster, whereas Avatar actually had something going for it and acted as a game changer for Hollywood movies.

It still has a way to go but it will outgross Avatar, you fucking delusional Cameroncucks

>3 weeks
>1.5 billion

Only need about 1 billion more to make the goal.

Stay mad faggots

Why do you care?

>>64514700
Coming from the guy who doesn't even know how boxofficemojo works, I'd say that's preemptive.

>>64513859
Avacucks in 2009
>Its a shit movie, Cameron sucks ass. Just Pocahontas in space

Avacucks in 2014
>Its a shit movie, stupid CG. Cameron sucks ass. Just Pocahontas in space

Avacucks once a good SW movie comes out
>LOL BRING LUCAS BACK JJ ABRAMS A KEK KEK MOVIE AVATAR BEST MOVIE 2016 2017 2018 CANT WAIT FOR THE SQUEEKUEL

>>64514522
Sure thing then m8, I thought you might have been so kind as to provide a few GOOD reviews you know of.

Then again, why did I expect any kindness from this shithole of a website

>>64514783
Both sides of the argument care. Cameronfags want Star Wars to not break 3 billion for shitposting purposes. Star Warsfags want it to break 3 billion for shitposting purposes.

>>64514592
The dumb part that post meant to highlight was
>who cares about overseas

That's dumb because the worldwide record is talked about far more than the domestic record. It's "damage control" to imply that getting that record matters more than the world record.

>>64514592
It's not topping Jim though.

T H E ... F L O P ... A W A K E N S

AVATAR IS STILL FUCKING SHIT
TITANIC IS MEGASHIT
CAMERON IS A FUCKING HACK ALL HIS MOVIES GET SHIT REVIEWS AND NOBODY LIKES HIM BUT YOU PATHETIC CONTRARIAN FAGGOTS

FUCK YOU

>>64514780
>This mad and in denial
Dude, just forget it. Avatar will remain #1 worldwide.

>>64514744
The extent of Avatar's overseas dominance is such that, even though TFA will make about $200m more domestically, Avatar will still be a much more profitable movie.

>star cucks can't even bend the facts to their advantage because avatar wins every time

KEK

>>64514762
Do you understand how these things work? By the third week you can have a rough understanding of how a movie's going to do given the previous drop offs. Is the studio suddenly going to remove the film from cinemas tomorrow?

Imagine waiting years for this FLOP

>>64514459
They do not end on the 6th in every state.

>>64514791
>spotted the newfag

Are you the same idiot who goes around screaming that people are NOW defending the prequels? /tv/ always had people who liked Avatar, and /tv/ always had people who liked the prequels. It's not "new"

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>>64514791
>a good SW movie

>>64514791
Hey, fuck you, I liked Cameron and Avatar way before I came to this shit hole of a place.

>>64514744
>Studio Accounting

>>64514604
>>64514842
thank-you based germanbros for enlightening me

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>>64514827
>butthurt
Cry more.

>>64514780
>1 billion more
1.5 billion. Avatar made 3 billion dollars world wide when adjusted for inflation.

>>64514780
>not realizing that blockbusters experience exponential decay in gross over time

How retarded ARE these star wars fanboys?

>>64514791
Fucking newfag.

>>64514780
see

>>64514650


It was always front-loaded. Profits are already rapidly dropping off like literally every other highly successful film *except* Avatar and Titanic. TFA is finished. Not going to beat Avatars world gross.

>>64514830
>Avatar will still be a much more profitable movie.
That's something that actually requires a decent amount of calculation. TFA is probably going to end up being the highest grossing film of all time in the UK as well, which also gives a higher percentage of its gross to studios. Also a lot of that money is up front. Studios get a smaller percentage of the gross the longer a movie stays in the cinema. Star Wars could end up being far more profitable than Avatar.

>>64514900
>muh inflation

Top kek, fuck off idiot

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>>64514939
>It was always front-loaded.
This works in the studio's favor, by the way.

>>64513859
But Titanic and Avatar are incredibility shallow movies that require little to no brain matter to enjoy.

That's why they made billions.

>>64514949
1) Nobody cares about "profits" other than studios. When was the last time you saw a list of "the most profitable movies of all time"? That's right, never.

2) It's impossible to track for any movie and hence every part of your post is just baseless assumption and conjecture.

You've got NOTHING to brag about. Literally nothing.

>>64514949
STAR WARS IS INFINITELY MORE POPULAR BECAUSE OF FUCKING MERCHANDISING

NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANYTHING FROM AVATAR. IT WAS A DUMB FLUKE MEME MOVIE THAT EVERYONE HAS FORGOTTEN EXCEPT ALL THE KEKS ON THIS BOARD. NOBODY WANTS TO GO TO HALLOWEEN AS DUMB BLUE KEK BOY FROM AVATAR BUT EVERYONE IS LUKE OR VADER. CAMERON JUST LIKE ALL HIS MOVIES IS A PASSING FART IN CINEMA HISTORY

>>64514670
Avatar made more money progressively through word of the mouth. The biggest week was like the 6th or something. Star Wars already made most of the money

>>64514949
That ofcourse is ignoring the 4 BILLlON spent buying Star Wars.

>>64515027
The entire discussion is about which made more money. If you don't care (which you shouldn't) why even post in this thread?

>>64514827
>>64515066
we get it, you want attention
there someones replied, happy now?

>star wars fanboys can't brag about objective gross anymore so they're trying to bend it by talking about "profit"

I've never seen anything more pathetic in my life.

>>64514749
Tell us all why it's a great movie anon.

Let's see if you can make an argument without:
>I enjoyed it (tell us why you enjoyed it)
>it was fun (tell us why it was fun)
>everyone else liked it, why can't you?
>c-contrarians

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Just imagine the shitposting if The Revenant beats TFA next weekend.

>>64515018
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

You just described this whole list.

>>64515074
Which included all of the merchandising for Star Wars and Indiana Jones. They probably made their money back already.

>>64514001

Critics are not allowed to not like TFA.

It's truly gone so far over to the SJW side to where you are threatening your career if you speak out against TFA publicly.

>>64515002
Doesn't matter ultimately. There's no reason to think TFA won't follow the trend of Jurassic World, Avengers, etc. and have profits basically rapidly drop off from now on, as they've already been doing.

No reason to think it will be a "slow and steady" earner (like Avatar and Titanic), which is what it'd need to catch Avatar.

It's not a "sheer spectacle" and lacks any other sort of universal, major appeal like Avatar or Titanic. TFA is too reliant on nostalgia, the holidays, neckbeardism, etc. not to drop off like most every other major blockbuster.

>>64515109
No it's about which film holds the record for the highest-grossing film of all time.

Which film is that again?

>>64515018
and yet the braindead force awakens can't keep up

CAPESHIT BTFO AGAIN

>can't even beat titanic non inflation
>can't even beat original star wars inflation.

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>this obsession

You are so fucking mad right now, starcucks. No one outside of clapistan gives a fuck about your shitty movie for nostalgic manchildren and bull dykes. Eat shit.

>>64515018
That's true of all the highest grossing movies.

>>64515141
The Revenant has been out in alot of theaters already, alot of seats were open'd when i went. It ain't beating anything

>>64515136
so far you havent given any supportive statements of your own that i can see
why shoud he?

>>64515069
It made all of its money, anon. The next few weeks until its pulled from theaters will be the stragglers and/or rewatchers. It'll earn very little, the typical $5-8 million per day, or even less, depending on the circumstances.

It's safe to say that almost everyone saw TFA during the holiday season.

>Low total cap: ~$755 million
>High total cap: ~$790 million

It won't break $800 million domestic.

>>64515161
>implying
Based Arnold and glib fascile man shut it the FUCK down for the rehashed uninspired toy selling garbage it is. We don't like in 1984, yet.

>>64515146
Because they translate to non-english speakers. Thats fucking why.

And JIM JAM always shoe horns in some romance for the women.

>>64515166
I'm saying that worked in the studio's favor because studios typically get a higher percentage of grosses in the first and second week. They lower their percentage as time goes on in order to incentivize the theater into keeping the movie showing.

>>64515109
Nope. You're being willfully obtuse. It's about gross worldwide ticket sales. not domestic records or "gross profit due to associated merchandise sales," or whatever silly metric you've spontaneously invented.

>>64513625
When considering it's just a remake of the original trilogy, I don't get how it made as much as it did.

>>64515170
>Which film is that again?
It's about to be Star Wars in many countries.

>>64515210
>It won't break $800 million domestic.
That's absurd. Of course it will.

>>64515195
Is it worth the hype? Because my birthday is coming up soon and I don't want to waste two and a half hours.

>>64515176
TOP KEK STAR WARS IS A CULTURAL MAINSTAY EVERYWHERE AND AVATAR IS COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN. IT WILL ALWAYS BE LIKE THIS. THE ONLY REASON AVATAR MADE MONEY WAS ALL THE WHITE GUILT KEKS AROUND THE ROUND FELLATING MUH INDIAN GENOCIDE GARBAGE. IT WAS A SHIT MOVIE AND AMERICA THE ONLY RELEVANT COUNTRY ANYWAY HAS SPOKEN

>>64515129
IT'S CAMERON DICK RIDERS GOING ON ABOUT MUH INFLATION

IT WILL MAKE MORE THAN AVATAR
IT WILL MERCHANDISE MORE THAN AVATAR
PEOPLE WILL CARE MUCH LONGER THAN AVATAR

DEAL WITH IT

>>64515195
Limited release atm.

It opens wide on January 8th, you dingus

>>64515258
>many
>two

HAHAHAHAHA it's so kekworthy watching you trying to rationalize this

>>64515256
You're dumb obviously. Don't u remember how nobody knew anything about the plot because the trailers gave none of it away?

>>64515213
live* in 1984

avatar 2 is going to outgross the force awakens worldwide

screencap this
or don't
can't say i really care about obvious predictions that will easily come to pass

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>>64513625
ABSOLUTELY BTFO
MORE LIKE THE FLOP AWAKENS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>64515258
From what I'm seeing, especially the sharp drop offs, it won't.

Remember all the talk about JW beating Titanic? It inched its way past $650 in August, but failed to beat it. Even with an increase in theaters to guarantee its victory. Still nothing.

>>64515266
u mad bro

>>64515266
Reddit: the opinions.

>>64515217
That was the domestic list.

>>64514758
Nor will they care

>>64515338
Avatar 2 will make $500m in China at the least.

>>64515352
>It won't break $800 million domestic.
>$90 million this weekend
>won't make another $60 million from now until the end of time
Are you retarded? It fell 40% both weekends. Even if you went with a 60% drop for the next few weeks it'll break $800 million.

>>64515266
>le all caps

oh wow, the Star Cuck emotional meltdown is almost unbelievable. Maybe grab a handful of Cheetos and a nice cold swig of Mt. Dew, and you'll feel better, neckbeard.

>>64515420
You're counting the final weekend of the holiday weekend. On Monday, it estimated that it made $8 million. Come back next week end, and when you acquire a brain, shill tripfag.

>>64515430
maybe dont samefag and you will have the same affect

>>64514546
He makes shitty 6/10 mindless action movies. He turned 2 great sci fi franchises into soulless action movie shoot em up. Oh yeah and he also directed one of the worst, most dull and drawn out romances to ever exist as well.

He's one of the biggest bums I ever seen sit in a directors chair and I will never understand why so many people go to see his medicare films.

>>64515489
we cant afford our own and are forced to by the government

>>64515489
>stop liking things: the post

>>64513625
Do you have a source? I've been checking everywhere but no one seems to be posting the numbers yet.

>>64515420
>>64515465
To put this into perspective, Jurassic World fell 50% it's first two weekends (10% more than Star Wars) and still made another $150 million after its 17th day.

>>64515210

Even it it makes 8 million a day it will still break 800 easily. It has another 9 weeks at least at the cinema.

A more reasonable estimate is 150-300 million more domestically. So between 900 and 1.1 billion.

>>64515548
https://twitter.com/giteshpandya/status/684421940703006720
http://deadline.com/2016/01/star-wars-the-force-awakens-overseas-monday-box-office-global-number-4-1201676173/

>>64515600
>TFA will break 1 billion domestically
mein sides xD

>>64513625
>people think EP7 will beat Titanic, let alone Avatar
>bu-but muh China!!!!
You think chinks give a crap about SW? They don't want Finn and they hated ANH. They'll end up watching it on pirated copies anyways.

>>64515465
>On Monday, it estimated that it made $8 million.
Let's say it made just over $5 million per weekday and it fell 65% this weekend, it'll still make $800 million by the end of the week.

>>64515639
They also had a long ass wait, so I'm pretty sure the majority seen it via rips.

Disney fucked it up

>>64515489

Other than "Le vacuum of space" Aliens is a perfect movie.

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>55 posters in thread

Gr8 b8 m8

>>64515626
It could. Jurassic World made another $150 million after this point in its run and had larger drops.

>>64515700
It's a low brow action movie ripped from a pretty decent horror movie that came before it. Same as T2.

>>64515018
They both took far more technical proficiency to pull off than something like TFA.

Someone like Abrams couldn't make Titanic.

>>64514873
why? its a shit movie

>>64515489
He made Terminator 1 as well as Terminator 2, stupid. And calling T2 soulless is far-fetched. It may not be super deep or artistic, but it has more "soul" and inspiration than the vast majority of action movies.

>>64513625
You avatards are looking really desperate with threads like this. "TFA made more than most opening weekends on its weakest day so far. Flop!"

It's sad, really. And Cameron probably won't even live to finish Avatard III.

>>64515844
>Someone like Abrams couldn't make Titanic.
But that's only because he couldn't possibly write a villain as one-dimensional as Rose's fiance.

>>64515844
They both have extremely aged and terrible looking CGI now. In 15 years Avatar will look like shit meanwhile something like A New Hope will still be plenty of fun and watchable. Now THAT took technical skill. Using the latest CGI tech isn't a skill.

Just putting this out there avatar made 673 million in total overseas by the third weekend. The force awakens made 770 million, so I dont know where your delusions about it flopping internationally are coming from because they are not founded by facts and the truth is avatar is being outpaced by every measure.

>tfw the sequel to the most celebrated trilogy of all time featuring the return of the original actors couldnt even beat a Dances With Wolves rehash

JUST!!!!!!!

>>64515489
>he also directed one of the worst, most dull and drawn out romances to ever
geeze I mean True Lies sucks but it wasn't THAT bad

>>64515928
Titanic has some of the best practical effects of all time

>>64515891
>it has more "soul" and inspiration than the vast majority of action movies.
Camcucks pls. It's just a regular old action movie.

>>64515902
He was rich, a coward, deeply possessive and jealous. What else wouldve satisfied you?

>>64515944
TFA is also dropping similar (if slightly better) to other blockbusters, while Avatar had an insane second weekend drop of less than 2%.

>>64515970
You seem to think T1 is great. Cameron wrote and directed it you know. Contradicts even your idea that Cameron is shit.

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>>64515956
>True Lies sucks

>>64515825

>low brow

>posting in a Star Wars thread.

Oh the ironing.

>>64515489
>Terminator
>Terminator 2
>Aliens

"6/10"

>Star Cucks this fucking mad

>>64515944
It's all in the opening weekend. Avatar's 2nd overseas weekend outgrossed TFA's 2nd overseas weekend. Avatar's 2nd week outgrossed TFA's 2nd overseas week. Avatar's 3rd weekend far outgrossed TFA's 3rd weekend. On this day in Avatar's release, Avatar made $30m overseas, over double what TFA did.

It's only going to get worse over the next few weeks, too. Avatar made $100m in its 4th overseas weekend (minus China), while TFA failed to do that in its 3rd. In just over a week Avatar will have passed TFA in objective gross at the same point in both films' run.

>>64516013
Someone who wasn't so unambiguously terrible. He didn't feel human at all. This is something that Cameron even admits in the commentary track of Titanic; he called him a mustache twirler.

>>64516067

It's easily his worst film I will give you that.

People here ragging on Avatar are misunderstanding the cult of Based Jim. Once you accept James as your lord and saviour you realize just how much he constantly pushes the boundary of cinema and raises the bar with every film he makes.

>>64516139
fuck you i love true lies. it's better than avatar IMO.

>>64516070
Aliens is unremarkable I'd agree. But T1 and T2 are both great. He's wrong there.

>>64516078
The success of Avatar will always be lost on me. I feel like most of it was due to the "new" overhyped 3D technology that people wanted to try out.

>>64516037
I never said it was great. I said it was decent sci fi horror. T2 IS just a horribly aged action movie with shit effects at this point. It has nothing else going for it other than shooty shooty boom boom unlike T1

>>64516078
I know i'll get bashed for saying this but it'll be interesting to see how this pans out after China are added to the mix.

>>64515196
>beat-for-beat copy and paste of ANH
>endless pandering and fan service
>uninspired direction and cinematography
>horribly underwhelming score
>terrible pacing (after Jakku)
>gaps and inconsistencies in characterisation

Why was it a good/great movie anon? Was it good cause everyone else liked it?

>>64516219
TFA will make $150m-$200m in China, $225 at best.

>>64516252
Maybe a lot more than that, I mean its certainly got a lot more attention on chinese social media than other foreign films don't believe me look it up.

>>64516174

>Aliens is unremarkable

Other than Star Wars and the Matrix it's probably the most influential action movin of all time.


Unless you are 12, I demand that you take that back.

What is this sports? Are you somehow responsible for either the sales of Cameron's movies or the star wars franchise? Do you have more worth when you side with one director or another? I don't think anyone on these lists is begging for food and shelter, they're getting richer and you assclowns suck their dicks for f r e e

>>64516248
The direction is actually quite good. I know that people dislike JJ for how much he borrows from Spielberg, but he understands stuff like composition/framing, visual storytelling, editing, getting good performances out of mediocre actors, etc. He's technically quite good, unlike his direct big-budget competitors Whedon and Snyder. 09 Star Trek is a better space opera than even The Force Awakens.

>>64516211
Don't retract ur statement. Be a man.
>>64516174
Terminator 2 and Aliens are exceptional action films. I will not allow anyone to bismerch them.

>>64515928
Titanic is literally one of the greatest examples of miniatures and practical effects in film history.

Keep bullshitting though.

>>64516376
>social media analysis

Truly the greatest predictor of box office success.

If you want to hear some real statistics, it's not doing very well in presales.

>>64516376
Is that attention due to how big it is in Europe and America? Like they're curious to see what we watch?

>>64516385
>>64516417

Cameron cucks are basically muslims at this point

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>implying this has never happened with other movies

>>64516540
Gone With the Wind, Star Wars, Ben-Hur, E.T., Titanic. It happens once a decade or so.

>>64516540
Avengers is on far left
Jurassic World is 2nd to far left
Avatar is in middle
Star Wars is 2nd to far right
Titanic is on far right

>>64516540
>whatever's 3rd on that list (Avatar I believe) goes from a $68m weekend to an $8.1m Monday
>TFA goes from a $91m weekend to an $8m Monday

just

>>64516458
Take from this what you will whether or not it translates into anything is debatable I admit.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0U60CU20151224

>>64516623
Where are you getting the Monday numbers for Star Wars?

>>64513625
Star wars even had inflation at their advantage and they still couldn't beat the master. Can't wait for Avatar 2 to bump star wars to 4th.

>>64516683
posted links in the thread already

>>64516385
Nah. Alien is a better Alien movie, and T2 and The Matrix are better action movies than Aliens. I like and respect Cameron pretty well, but Aliens isn't in his top tier of work. It's just a solid action movie in the Alien universe. Nothing more.

>>64514406
We do. Its just that the movie is meh and word of mouth spreads fast.

reminder that if you like avatar youre not as smart as people who acknowledge that star wars will beat avatar

>>64516711
I can't find it. Can you post it again?

>>64516724
You're wrong and bullet time is gay.

avatar 2 is going to be the biggest flop of all time

>>64516808
>>64515614

>>64516819
at least we can both shit on The Rehash Awakens :^)

Imagine what Cameron could do with an established franchise like Star Wars.

I'd say we'd be seeing 4 bil +

>>64517017
That's only because he knows how to cynically appeal to the pleb masses

>>64515956
glad someone else made this post so I don't have to

>>64517105
Never heard such bullshit jealousy before.

The guy puts a trucker cap in everyoneof his films in order to remind us where he came from. He's the exact opposite of arrogance.

>>64516724

6/10 for actually triggering.

>>64517017
please don't suggest this. it hurts too much. Disney didn't even want to fucking try.

thankfully we get to see what insane brew he's cooked up for Avatar 2-4.

>>64516852
It'll overtake Titanic and Avatar to become the biggest grossing movie of all time.

Cameron has developed greater 3D technology since his last movie and he's going to film in the Marianas Trench for this one.

If you think it was gimmicks that brought him so much success with Avatar (and this is true to an extent), there'll be just as many 'gimmicks' for Avatar 2.

I think it's weird when people take Cameron's creative filming of Avatar and use it as a stick to beat him with.

>>64515018
>TFA is a deep movie that requires thought and deep understanding to get the full picture
>if you see it more times it will be different
really?
even sixth sense is more deep than TFA and I wouldn't consider that thoughtprovoking either

Avatards on suicide watch. They keep falling one after another.

Fastest film to gross $1 billion – 12 days.[2]
Biggest worldwide opening weekend and single weekend gross – $529 million.[3]
Widest worldwide IMAX release – 940 IMAX screens.[4] However, this number is not official. Internationally it has been released in a total of 673 IMAX screens so far. Only when it opens in China – on January 9, 2016 – then an official number can be given depending on the number of IMAX screens it will open there. Box office pundits are suggesting the film will open to about 270 IMAX screens in China which will put its total IMAX screens counts to 943 worldwide.[5]
Biggest worldwide opening weekend of 2015 – $529 million.[3]
Biggest worldwide December opening weekend – $529 million.[6]
Biggest December international opening weekend – $281 million.[6]
Biggest Disney international opening – $281 million.[3]
Biggest IMAX worldwide opening weekend – $48 million.[7]
Biggest single day IMAX worldwide gross – $17.7 million (on Friday, December 18, 2015).[7]
Biggest single day IMAX international gross – $4.8 million (on Saturday, December 19, 2015).[7]
Fastest to $100 million in IMAX sales – 12 days.[2] It grossed a total of $106.4 million in that time with the notable absence of China.[8]
Highest-grossing Star Wars film. It is also the second film following The Phantom Menace to cross the $1 billion mark.[9]
Fastest film to $150 million in IMAX ticket sales – 19 days. It earned a total of $152 million in the said period obliterating the previous record held by Avatar which took 47 days to reach the mark.[10]
Highest-grossing IMAX film of 2015 – $152 million.[10]

>>64517301
Aliens is prequel tier compared to the nearly-perfect Alien

Aliens>T1>T2>The Abyss>Avatar =Force Awakens >True Lies

>>64517340
You can't imagine how joyful I would be if Jim blows the fuck out of the doubters for a third time and AGAIN makes the highest-grossing film of all time.

The reaction from star wars fanboys would be fucking hilarious.

>>64516852
it really depends on what he's come up with and how good it looks in a trailer.

three movies at once implies he has some kind of batshit crazy epic with every sci-fi idea he's ever had all shoved into one story. it's not just going to be mucking around on Pandora, that's for sure.

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>>64517391
>mfw the list of North American records broken won't even fit in three posts.

>>64517433
T1 > The Abyss = The Force Awakens > T2 > True Lies > Aliens

>>64517433
>Force Awakens >True Lies

lol fuck off

>>64517410

They are both roughly equal in what they are trying to do in their respective genres.

I prefer action to horror so I prefer Aliens.

>>64514791
exactly jj made a better new hope than lucas now the stormfags and mysoginist are on full damage control

might go see for a third time this weekend. such an entertaining movie experience

>>64517105
that's a facile, wrong characterization of Jim's work. They do appeal to the pleb masses but not with 100% hackneyed elements like Jurassic World or TFA. Their technical proficiency, innovation, and the director's obvious passion prove that they are not merely "cynical." It's very clear most of his movies are inspired by something other than making money, which you can't say about most generic blockbuster successes.

I am not sure what Disney's plan was to not release it in China at the same time as the rest of the World.
I was in Shanghai yesterday and every corner had a chinaman selling bootleg copies of TFA. I am not sure the Chinese are even going to watch it on teathers anymore.

>>64517438
Of course he'll do it. It's Jim.

>>64517410
Tripfag, just no.

Aliens has a cultural footprint on all scifi films since 1986, with everything from Halo to District 9 paying tribute to it.

Ur wrong.

>>64517433

>that uzi on the stairs


That scene alone disqualifies it from any top contention or consideration.

>>64517582
Disney likely have little to do with it. Only China decides what gets released in China.

>>64517340
>he's going to film in the Marianas Trench for this one.


And there's some absolute retard here claiming Cameron makes nothing more than "cynical pleb shit." You don't film in the Marianas Trench if you just want to cash in on casual plebs.

TFA will hit 2 billion easilly but I doubt it'll reach cucktar's numbers. Shame too. I didn't like TFA but I fucking hate the blue ayylmao shit

>>64517391
We've already proven beyond all doubt Avatar's record will hold. Your little pleb records are irrelevant.

>>64517612
Moving the sci-fi genre into horrible new directions and inspiring countless vapid videogames counts as a feat I guess.

Imagine a world where Aliens never happened, and Alien and 2001 were the primary inspirations for modern sci-fi. That's a world I want to live in.

>>64517655
>yfw China loves JC but hates corporate blockbuster movies like TFA and gives them unfavorable release dates

Truly the patrician country.

>>64517655
>Glorious party protecting the Chinese people against shit movies
Mao would be proud.

>>64517340
>I think it's weird when people take Cameron's creative filming of Avatar and use it as a stick to beat him with.

the media is highly motivated to suck up to actors, as those are the visible celebrities who they can use to sell ads.

actors fucking hate Cameron because he makes movies which shift the focus away from them, and also because of how little he gives a fuck about keeping them happy when he is doing 20 hour days making his films.

>>64517581
Titanic is an exercise in complete cynicism. There isn't an ounce of depth in that entire film.

I want Jim to put Tom Cruise in Avatar 2.

I'd be first in line to see it every day

Fuck you james cameron, get off your lazy god damned ass and make some fucking movies! And not fucking Avatar ones!

We'll be lucky if he fucking finishes the moronic "avatar trilogy" by the time he's 75

>>64517697

Alright there Jeeves.

Are you having caviar or truffles after your night at the Opera?

>>64517791
It's a spectacle movie that was a phenomenal spectacle.

That's what Jim set out to do.

>>64517817
Ironically hes only tried to pull a Lucas, by creating a scifi universe of aliens and avatars. It's basically always Star Wars to blame.

>>64517792
Arnold will be in Avatar 2

>>64517791
Cameron wasn't even going to get paid for making Titanic because he traded his fee for the money to make better sets.

in the capeshit age, it's laughable to regard a costume drama romance disaster movie where everyone knew the ending as "cynical". at worst it just has some broadly drawn characters and an excessive focus on the fictional story at the expense of the real life one.

Objective opinion over the shitflinging going on right here :
Both movies are mediocre turds. That said Avatar was the most shilled movie of all time, I live in a shitty slav country, and usually when a movie comes out here you get a small ad in the paper an that's that. Now for Avatar it was literally ''Go see this movie. We're serious go se it. James Cameron Titanic. Oscars. New 3D. Go see it''. Now if it was like that in my shitty 3rd world country then it was even worse everywhere else. On the other hand star wars wasn't shilled as much but it was hyped by it's name alone.

tldr; Avatar was supershilled turd and that's why it made money whereas starwas is overhyped turd and that's why it makes money

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>>64517817

>tfw the only new Cameron movies we will ever see are Avashit movies.

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>>64517904

>>64518008
>>64517817
I'd wait to see where he takes Avatar's story before assuming you're not going to be interested in it.

Two types of JC fans

Literal autists who worship him for granting them a few sweet hours of escape from their lives eg Abatap

redditors who think appealing to the lowest common denominator is worthy of praise - this opinion is also borne out of contrarian ism


which are you? little of both?

>>64518059
>the most successful director ever only has two kinds of fans

>>64518059
Did you know that JC haters and redditors are both subsets of each other?

>>64517983
the ocean is also one of Jim's passions

>>64518019
>implying Jim hasn't secretly been making movies to be released after his death so he can beat his own future gross records from beyond the grave

Aliens has the best cast compared with Terminator 2.

If Avatar 2 had Paxton, Arnold, Weaver, and Ribissi back playing Bourke, id be happy.

>>64517987
lel

Avatar had 4 months of marketing

Star Wars had a year and a half. There was Star Wars Chex Mix!

>>64518056

My interest is literally one point above zero.

I was see them simply because they are Cameron Sci fi movies. However I have about zero interest in the Avatar universe .

>>64518185
Stephen Lang is back as Col Coffee despite being killed

Cameron is well loved by everyone because he's the only director from the 80's that hasn't lost his touch.
Sure, Avatar was complete diarrhea compared to Aliens or Terminator 2, but it was still an entertaining movie.

Now compare that to latest Ridley Scott or De Palma offerings, 2 other directors that were good in the 80's.

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No lie, these Ava VS TFA piss contests are quite enjoyable to read.
Don't care for the movies much, but you lads make for some fun threads.

>>64517792
>Avatar 2 starring Cruise and Schwarzenegger

Would easily be the greatest film of all time that changed kinography forever.

>>64518174
kek, how can one man be so based?

>>64518301
>Now compare that to latest Ridley Scott
The Martian is better than Avatar

>>64517987
ur brain is a turd and that's why it doesn't make money

>>64518301
The martian was bretty gud tbqh

>>64518402
You're damn right it is

>>64518059
Reddit hates Cameron.

I'm not memeing either.

So let me get this straight

They open one of the biggest disney films ever made in china last?! when all the camrips are out for them pirating motherfuckers? and everyone knows chinese pirates are the best on earth im surprised they didnt just make their own version and made more of that

>>64519112
G-guys, it w-would have made a billion, but Chinese pirates

>>64518402
>>64518674
No it's not!

I didn't see any fuckign martians in the film all i saw was shitty earth locations fucking superimposed red to mae it look like mars and matt damon pretending tobe ironman fuck that shit!

Avatar was beautifully refreshing and had a great theme of protecting nature and not only that a great element of sci-fi of a world that no one has been before it was a fucking huge adventure!

Whats sickening the most is even faggots like MArk Kemode are hailing TFA as epic when this motherfucker is clearly been paid off by disney, its fucing pathetic, everything he says is great is exactly what Avatar did and it makes no sense why he gave it such a high score when all it did was hit his nostalgia that literally what he says in the interview

>>64519177
fuck off chink

>>64519112
Chinese govt puts a limit on foreign films released in their country per year and it didn't make the cut. anyway, who gives a shit, the Chinese distribution companies rape the foreign film companies in the amount of boxoffice percentage they get

>>64519230
Hasn't Kermode said he's never gone on a media junket?

Anyway, whatever, you'll still have based Armond anon.

>>64514406
The communist chinese never had Star Wars

>>64514290
Avatar is garbage. I'm not saying that TFA was anything special, but avatar was a snooze fest. Honestly one of the 2 movies I've ever fallen asleep to in theaters

>>64520578
How would you manage that? I remember it being pretty loud.

How the hell did avatar make so much to begin with?

...It's not like the movie is any good...

>>64520805
word of mouth/nothing good showing on january/set off the 3D craze

>>64520805
The visuals were amazing, and a mediocre plot doesn't stop the crowds.

Also, giant sexy smurf waifus

>>64520805
3D showings.

TFA would already be far and away #1 all-time if it had the same percentage of 3D ticket sales as Avatar

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>they think asians will save star wars

>ALREADY -65% drop
>only at 22 million
>retard star wars faggots wont understand these numbers
>they think every single movie is in theaters as long as avatar was

>>64520805
James Cameron showed Hollywood how to make movies

>>64521014
>b-but muh weak dollar

kek

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>losing to road chip

>>64521007
This meme amuses me

Stars Wars is mediocre. Salari obsolves them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ulXbpKaTg

>>64515825
>20 minutes of action
>action movie
>in the force awakens thread

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>>64521072
>he thinks the dollar's weak?

>>64521014
what if they decide to prolong how long its out, then you avatar fags are fucked

>>64521544

please be bait

>>64517340
kek

the sad part is this was most likely posted unironically

>>64521369
Where is this even from? It's been around since forever.

>>64513625

I'm not shitposting, I think it is because the word has been spread about how mediocre TFA is.

Avatar was also a pocahontas / dances with wolves clone of sorts, but the appeal was there regardless because of the visuals and the 3d.

TFA has none of that.

>>64521623
a flick called dogtooth

>>64521280
Salieri.

>>64521632
>bad word of mouth
It's week three. The large drops was because it's the end of the holidays. People around the world go back to school around this time.

both movies are overrated rehash trash

People talk about Cameron's 3D like it was of the same quality of all the movies that have tried to emulate it since.

The 3D effects for Avatar we're fantastic and are unmatched. You can call it a gimmick if you want, but it wasn't like Cameron threw in a few 3D shots and called it a 3D movie.

There was great attention to detail in having the effects work consistently.

>>64521791
But only one is the highest-grossing movie of all time.

>>64521603
dont call me bait you fucking furfag, you think your avatar is safe this time tomorrow they will be showing the new figures for this week and you guys are going to be losing yor shit when you realise how much legs this film has, im already re-booking 25 seats for my work place here in london to go imax this weekend you guys are fucked, im doing my part, fuck avatar that generic piece of shit

>>64521854
>prolonging the time a movie is in theatres for will magically make it lots more money

You're dumb as fuck, mate. Also Tuesday is set to decline even from Monday, which is fucking hilarious. Expect another post tomorrow ridiculing the drops that have occurred from last Tuesday.

>>64521854
Holy shit.

>>64521691
Cool ty

>>64521854
top post - fight the good fight my friend

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>>64522062
Fuck you! here's proof this was just posted on my facebook its over its larady surpassed Titanic its over give up cameron is FUCKED

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>>64522272
>domestic

>>64522353
So its still geting raped at amonumental speed, trust me im here to stay, i know your nervous and thats why you are posting but i will be posting forever star wars threads and doing my part! motherfucker

this film literally just inspired a whole new generation, what the fuck did Avatar inspire?! TELL ME WHAT\!?!?! FUCKIGN UNOBTANIUM!?

A reminder to disneycucks that Avatar's 3 hour running time still hasn't been used as an argument.

>>64522424
you absolute retard, learn to read, unobtanium has been around before you were you fucking illiterate degenerate

>Since the late 1950s,[a][1] aerospace engineers have used the term "unobtainium" when referring to unusual or costly materials, or when theoretically considering a material perfect for their needs in all respects, except that it does not exist. By the 1990s, the term was in wide use, even in formal engineering papers such as "Towards unobtainium [new composite materials for space applications]."[2][3] The word unobtainium may well have been coined in the aerospace industry to refer to materials capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures expected in re-entry.[1] Aerospace engineers are frequently tempted to design aircraft which require parts with strength or resilience beyond that of currently available materials.

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>>64522424
>the force awakens
>inspired a whole new generation

>>64522424
Jesus H Christ is this real... I don't even think Disney is paying this fag..

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>>64521014

l2math

Jan 1-3 they lost 1/3 of their screens and 1/3 of their box office. That means that the remaining theaters were still filling up at the same rate. They likely lost those screens because of bookings from months ago, not because TFA wasn't bringing people in.

I think TFA is an insanely-overrated disappointment, but I don't stoop to idiocy to try to cut it down. The metric box office provides is how popular mediocre films are. The Transformers movies are a billion-dollar franchise and they're mindless shit. Meanwhile, after over a decade nobody will yet pony up for a Master & Commander sequel.

Give it ten years and TFA will be remembered as being only slightly better than Phantom Menace.

The majority of the moviegoing public is retarded. Box office is not a indication of good filmmaking.

>>64522808
Clearly that's not true you fucking idiot, because the screen average during 1-3 is $4,428 compared to the $7,925 of the week prior.

>>64522808

the math is right there on the side you fucking retard

>7000 average per theater before they lost the theaters
>4000 AFTER

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>>64513625
ITT: Damage control on both sides
Why are you faggots so stubborn and afraid to admit when you're wrong?

>>64523722
>manchildren said it would beat avatar
>it doesn't

Where's the damage control needed?

>>64514252
you do know that the reason for the relatively equal percentage split is because of how ridiculously well it's doing in the US?

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>>64513625
I liked both films. Fuck /tv/ and its wannabe patrician hivemind.

>>64523793
Avatar also did "ridiculously well" in the US and managed a 27/73 split. The extra $200m or so in the US that TFA will gross over Avatar doesn't even begin to turn 27/73 into 50/50.

A more accurate statement would be "star wars is lopsidedly popular in the US compared to overseas" or "star wars is only really popular with manchildren in the US"

>>64523793
>>64523916
For reference if Avatar had grossed $950m in the US, the split would be 32/68.