It's just a westernized version of Reservoir Dogs. Not even Samuel L Jackson getting his dick wet makes the movie any different. Now it's not a bad film, just a bad Tarantino film, he's done a lot better.
>>64513509 The performances were average, you know you have shit performances when channing tatum carried that department. The sets were fucking terrible. Dialogue was shit. The movie fell flat, it just sort of ended.
He should just grow up and go back to making movies like Jackie Brown.
Devastating in some new and inexplicable way. This is very combative, and less indulgent of an expectant audience.
We're not on the same page, he contends, and why talk about it on those terms anyway?
Division and unity each have their own individual horrors. So the muted critical reaction strikes me as a touch of Dylan-goes-electric--and it all plays into a winding treatise about the uncertainty of allegiance. How terrible, how terribly ephemeral, it all seems: this respect between old soldiers, between "professionals," between captors and captives. The blues and grays have faded, but you're not sure how much, and you're not sure where badmouthing Abe Lincoln is going to get you. But blood must be spilled, and mixed, because it's the only true guarantor of loyalty. And even then, Tarantino suggests--in the slightest and craftiest of sideways glances--that the urge to love or protect will have to run through something deeper and uglier than that.
>>64513751 >I don't get the Reservoir Dogs comparison I see people coming to. >Because they have to figure out who isn't what they seem?
The Hateful Eight has been in my mind for days now, and I'm starting to wonder how long it'll keep up
Going back to Reservoir Dogs - it no longer feels like its own work.
It's more of a skeletal test pattern--a mild experiment with obsessions, pop-musical context, chapter breaks, impostors--and the parallels send me right back into the masterpieces proper. What endures, however, is the sense of doom that surrounds its coolness. The fact that it tries so hard to be cool when the aftermath is right there. Everyone should have seen it--the "carefree" dialogue is tainted with a bubbling hate, aching and ready to be implemented. It so clearly presages the violence, but only Joe sees through it, and only then when he has to think about it. Even afterwards, they're still not thinking about it--disgusted by Mr. Blonde's rampage while saying "I'll kill someone if they're in my way" like this is some grand step up. So the framework is a little empty, but the character details keep it alive, because they strain and search without comprehending the tragedy of themselves. I'm not talking about details like Mr. Orange's wedding ring--which, I dunno, feels like a self-conscious, screenwriter-mystery fetish object--but the way he imagines himself activating a bathroom hand-dryer with the same, direct finger that he uses to close his apartment door. He knows just enough to get himself killed.
>>64513509 The gore and swearing was a bit too over-the-top sometimes. Loved it, though. One of Tarantino's better movies, I'd say. It felt surprisingly "tight" for how long-winded it really was. And the character dialogue is fantastic, as usual. A part of me wished I could just sit there and watch them fuck around in the cabin and having conversations for the rest of time, it would be pretty rad. Then they all started shooting each other, and it was still pretty rad.
>>64513549 >Now it's not a bad film, just a bad Tarantino film, he's done a lot better. BAM! my sentiments exactly. my friends were really hyped for this movie and they loved it after seeing it but i feel it is very meh.
i have actually lowered my standards for tarantino these days i don't expect much from him and i didn't get much either. it seemed like he phoned this one in
>>64513509 I'm not surprised you loved it. It's made for the audience who cares about things like 70mm film and intermissions, and probably has a preconceived notion of the movie going in, rather than for average cinemagoers.
It's the kind of movie that could have been a celebrated stage play, but instead is a boring movie. The medium spoils the message.
>>64513567 >>64514671 I don't hold this against QT because I actually think a lot of a his "posse" are very entertaining - consistently more entertaining that Tarantino himself, these days. Tim Roth's fake accent is probably my favourite thing about the Hateful Eight, for better or for worse.
>>64513751 I think the moment that clenches the Reservoir Dogs comparison in a lot of people's minds is the standoff towards the end, where SLJ, the sheriff and all the gang members simultaneously get shot. It's practically the same scene as Reservoir Dogs. (Of course, in true Tarantino tradition, that was already cribbed from elsewhere, City on Fire.)
>>64513773 This is my primary complaint with Hateful Eight. At least things happen in Reservoir Dogs. About 75% of Hateful Eight takes place on the exact same set, and is driven by dialogue rather than action.
>>64515527 He didn't even have to act for his role in this movie.
>>64515752 He definitely made it up. It would just be weird if it had actually happened. First he just tells him he killed his son (which also may not have even happened), then tries to rub it in. When it's not working, he ups the ante with a forced blowjob. Even that doesn't do the trick. The thing that eventually sets him off is Warren saying it was the general's own fault his son was raped and killed.
> enjoying movie > Tarantino himself interrupts the film and starts talking and explaining plot points, killing any tension and atmosphere that had been building until that point NOW THIS IS MOVIE MAKING
I saw the movie until the cabin and then fell asleep and then woke up to catch the end. The beginning dialogue is just plain bad. It's literally one character recognizing the other and then going on this long explanation of who they are to the other person with bad, unnatural dialogue. This goes on for 45 minutes. I was also luckily able to catch the black dingus scene. It comes off as so fucking stupid and Tarantino probably jerked off thinking about it. Then the end. It makes zero sense that two severely injured men could take on the whole gang. Why didn't Jody just shoot them again?
>>64516638 > It makes zero sense that two severely injured men could take on the whole gang. What? They don't, they both bleed to death in the cabin. The gang of 15 may not have even existed, it was just a bluff. Not that it matters in the end, because they bleed to death.
>>64515916 >This is my primary complaint with Hateful Eight. At least things happen in Reservoir Dogs. About 75% of Hateful Eight takes place on the exact same set, and is driven by dialogue rather than action.
Dialogue is what Tarantino does best though, so I like this. But then again I hated Django and didn't really care for Inglorious Basterds either.
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