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>"THAT'S ONE HELL OF A PILOT!"

>"Poe Dameron, you're alive?"

Why does Finn act surprised when he sees Poe at the Resistance base when just 10 minutes ago he was saluting him at Maz's castle because he was killing so many stormtroopers.

This diminishes their bromance lore if Finn was just yelling in admiration of some random X-Wing pilot rather than knowingly having a bro moment with Poe, since obviously he thought he was dead.

Jesus this movie is so contrived and filled with plotholes.
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How in the hell would Finn know that was Poe? Obviously he was just excited in general.
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>>64511928
The scene is obviously framed like Finn knows its Poe and he's having a bro moment with him
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>>64511911
>be Finn
>getting ass raped by stormtroopers left and right
>be surrounded and forced to surrender, probably going to be executed for treason
>"Well, at least I died doing the right thing- wait, what the fuck?"
>X-wings show up outta nowhere
>one X-Wing in particular fucks up like 5 or 6 TIE fighters in a row like its nothing
>"Holy hell, that guy saved my ass. I'm gonna cheer him on!"

Yeah, real big plot hole there OP
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>>64511911
It's really stupid that Kasdan told JJ that they shouldn't include exposition or explain things in the movie. I'm sure they are use to TV writing, like much of its audience, but that's no excuse to not give this movie exposition and explain shit when needed. Movies can't operate like TV no matter how hard autists try to defend TFA's writing. It's bad.
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>>64511974
You're stupid.
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>>64511974
jesus...
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>>64512039
Give me a fucking break you Abramsfag, Finn obviously acts like he knows its Poe shooting all those troopers down. The scene is directed as this big bro moment
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>>64512076
There was one moment of pure exposition in the entire movie and it sucked the air out of it. Having everything explained to you in a visual medium sucks.
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>>64512076
what exposition did you need anon? How retarded are you?
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>>64512219
There is a right way and a wrong way to dump exposition though.
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>>64512219
I don't recall any exposition in the movie and good exposition doesn't suck anything out of anything. I'm not talking about spoon feeding Nolan movies, but on some degree, situations have to be explained in order for the plot and actions to progress, otherwise audiences will have to continuously pause and think about wtf just happened. I know I did as I was watching TFA, but it went lightning fast that I just said "ah, fuck it" and stopped caring about the movie right before they attacked that new Death Star (whatever its fucking name is). I dozed off too.
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>>64511974
you are retarded
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>>64512219
>>64512258
normie "binge watchers" detected
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>>64512330
great argument.
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>>64512203
So you've never seen some random dude pull off some crazy shit before and then got really excited about it? And if it is a "big bro moment", then it'd still make sense because people who save other people's lives in really cool fashion tend to be bros.
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>>64512203
>Finn obviously acts like he knows its Poe shooting all those troopers down
List the ways Finn acts like he knows it's Poe.
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>>64512343
how about some netflix and chill, anon? :^)
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>>64512386
when in doubt, double down.
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"Poe! You're still alive! That's great! Now we can go through an obvious bromance arc that women and gays like in the next two films! See ya then, bud! Nice ass!"
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>>64511928
>>64512039
>>64512101
>>64512175
>>64512175
>>64512359
>>64512365
Disney shills on damage control I see. OP makes a good valid point.
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>>64512559
Hi OP.
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>>64511974
>The scene is obviously framed like

What did he mean by this?
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>>64512559
OP plz
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>>64511974
I didn't get that vibe at all dude. It seems the rest of the thread didn't either. You might be dumb
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>>64512432
??????? Bromances have always been masculine

How about every buddy cop movie ever made? Road trip comedies?
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>>64512576
>>64512589
Fucking faggots
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3/10 because you're getting people to reply.
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all of you are cunts.
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This thread is now an Oscar Isaac sexuality confusion thread
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>>64514032
Works for me
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>>64511911
this is terrible bait

not even the most autistic assburgery retard here could not understand this
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>>64512301
>I don't recall any exposition in the movie

Does the opening crawl count?
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>>64514032
>>64514107
Fuck, this has to be some black magic at work. Why am I so attracted to him.
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>>64514167
I wonder.

https://youtu.be/o6HXmYi6Jw8?t=36
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>>64514032
>tfw you will never be tickled by his beard while lost in his passionate kiss
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>>64511974
>>64511911

being this retarded

holy shit.
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>>64514107
What's that in the bottom left?
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>>64514167
He just has that look
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>>64514107

Shit man I rejected the Poe gay theory but I don't know now.
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>>64514283
A dude's head. It's from some cam rip with a shitty line of vision.
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>>64511911
>>64511974
TFA haters everyone. Can't discern the most basic things without being told through exposition.
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>>64514107
>implying any of you wouldn't if he gave you that look
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>>64511911
Poe should be Antilles desu senpai
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>>64514401
So you're telling me when you first heard Finn say "THATS ONE HELL OF A PILOT" you didn't think he knew he was talking to Poe, instead of just some random X-Wing pilot?
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>>64511974
Tell that to Kanjiklub
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>>64514107
>>64514535
Nigga's short as hell I bet he'd bottom good
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>>64514818
Yes you autist.
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>>64514818
>one hell of a pilot demonstrates some top notch skill
>call him one hell of a pilot

How is this hard to understand
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>>64514884
>>64515080
Give me a fucking break, you're all full of shit.
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>>64515135
I thought /tv/'s autism was just a meme
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>>64514818
YES.
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>>64514818
I was paying attention to the movie, so I knew that Finn thought Poe had died in a previous scene.

So, no. I did not think Finn knew Poe was in that X-Wing.
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>>64514818
Litetally yes.

1/5 got me to reply.
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>>64512756
no. those are friendships
Millenials and disturbed fat chicks tend to see see any two male friends are GAY. That's why it rhymes with romance.
There is usually no 'romance' in buddy cop movies or road trips - that's your homoerotic fantasy, not anything factual
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>>64514032
>>64514239
tfw ywn be inside Llewyn Davis
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J.J is lacking in relationship building
Like Kirk and Spock in Trek 09, it feels fucking forced, those people have no reason to be as friendly and to have those "moments" when they just met.
>inb4 "but they saved each other, of course they're friends!"
Just watch ANH again, the relationship between Han and Luke feels real and grows on screen as they do shit together. They don't really like each other, they argue, and they come to appreciate each other. They don't fall in each other arms in the first 5 minutes.
TFA relationship feel like they've been tailored for ahdh kids, like there's an urgency to make the audience understand those two characters are going to be friend.
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>>64516868
Frankly, this is bullshit. You're viewing the relationships of the OT through the prism of all three films. Finn and Poe become friendly immediately, but they aren't friends in the same way that Luke and Han are, or Rey and Finn are. Poe is a tertiary character, and that's fine.
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>>64516868
I was actually kind of glad that Finn and Poe seemed to completely skip the comedic hate period a lot of action movie friendships start out with.
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>>64512039
>chimping out over something happening in the sky while there is a ground battle raging on around you
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>>64517959
There's a fine line between "comedic (?) hate period" and "we're best friends now"

>>64517614
>You're viewing the relationships of the OT through the prism of all three films
Because there's 3 film in both case. There's no need to rush
>Finn and Poe become friendly immediately, but they aren't friends in the same way that Luke and Han are, or Rey and Finn are
I fail to see your point.
>Poe is a tertiary character, and that's fine.
I literally said nothing about this
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>>64518198
>we're best friends now

Have you never met someone you just clicked with and could start shooting the shit with immediately? It's not great for narrative relationship development I guess but Finn and Poe are probably not going to get anywhere near the screentime together than Han and Luke had since Poe seems set up to be much more minor, so it's kind of forgivable in that regard.
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>>64516868
I thought ST '09 was very well-done overall when it came to character relationships. Didn't feel forced at all.

>>64518359
This, also Poe is probably the first person Finn ever met who ever respected him and treated him like a friend at least.

Remember, Finn busted Poe out and got him free, Poe fucking NAMED him. It's definitely a movie but them bro-ing it up so soon wasn't that much of a stretch really. They've already been through kind of a lot together. Busting out of the First Order like that and surviving a crash together would probably make anyone fond of each other. Bonds forged and all that.
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>>64518359
>Have you never met someone you just clicked with and could start shooting the shit with immediately?
They didn't fucking meet a friend's party. And when I clicked with someone, it's because we had a conversation. What do they have?
I'd be even satisfied if Poe was at least a little wary at the beginning. Instead they went with the no personnality "yeah sure bro let's go!"
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>>64518655
>What do they have?
>>64518639
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>>64518639
ST09 felt terrible for the kirk/spok relationship

>kirk cheats on spok's test
>animosity
>then kirk gets thrown off the enterprise by spok for being a cunt
>gets beamed back, makes spok mad as hell so he can be captain
>now they're friends

??
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>>64511911
he didn't know it was him. it was supposed to be funny because he didn't know. it's almost like star wars is about quasi mystical coincidental bullshit!
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He isn't a Newtype, so clearly he didn't know it was Poe. Say that JJ wanted to direct it like that. He probably would have followed that up with something like "Wow Poe Dameron I knew you were alive as soon as I saw one hell of a pilot" and then Poe would have been like "Yes."
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>>64511974
you're dumb, finn was just happy there was a capable pilot in the air
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>>64518639
>I thought ST '09 was very well-done overall when it came to character relationships. Didn't feel forced at all.
Wew lad
Know how I can safely disregard what you have to say about TFA?
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>>64511974
well it's a black X-wing, and Finn knows Poe likes to be inside black things.

So he put 2 and 2 together
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surprised at this thread, I also thought that the scene heavily implied finn knew it was poe. It certainly was to the audience.
the movie was great to watch, but there are some parts that just fall apart a bit once you leave the theater.
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>>64518639
>I thought ST '09 was very well-done overall when it came to character relationships. Didn't feel forced at all.
Please tell me about the beautiful Huhura /Spock lovestory. Truly a tale that had to be told

>He gave him a name!
Because the mood was light and friendly already
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>>64518907
JJ directed it like Finn knew it was Poe flying the X-Wing. It felt like a bro moment. Finn yelling out to him in admiration, then cut to Poe yelling out back. JJ is the master of manipulating audience emotions. Even if it doesn't fit right in the plot.
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>>64518838
And then there was that whole final mission they kinda/sorta went to on together. Kinda missed that, buddy.

And then Old Spock kinda stood out for Kirk at the end dude.

>>64518929
ST '09 was a great movie.
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>>64519092
Yeah I'm surprised too. People think I'm attacking the movie so they're being extra defensive and not really hearing what I'm trying to say. I enjoyed the movie, its just that this part bugged me a lot
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>>64519146
>oh yeah I'll just forgive you for everything you've ever done before because you helped me help you save your home planet
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By the way he didnt know it was Poe. It was just a way -subtle as always J.J- to highlight that Poe was THE BEST PILOT wink wink, because we the audience know it's him
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>>64511911
Because he didnt know that poe was that pilot. Theres more than one pilot in the galaxy, shocking!
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>>64519344
there's literally nothing wrong with any of that
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>>64519146
>ST '09 was a great movie.
No. It was ok. And a terrible Star Trek movie
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>>64512203
You are a retard, just stop.
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>>64519390
For a kids movie it's just the right amount of subtlely
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>>64512301
>>64512219
That scene between Han and Leia in which nothing new is said and they just restate the plot over and over with more clarity just sucked.
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>>64519444
Or all those Snoke scenes
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>>64519435
it was a just a cheeky fun moment. finn's reaction and then the reveal to the audience that poe was still alive. it's supposed to make you feel something. it's great.
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>>64519092
This.
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>>64518838
Kirk in the movie reboots doesn't even feel like Kirk, he feels like a vague caricature of Kirk written by someone who has never seen TOS.
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>>64519577
The reveal he's alive is before Finn's reaction. And I dont see how it's great. That's like saying the great moment when Han saves the day in ANH is when someone reacts to it. The action is supposed to make you feel something in a scene like this, not someone reacting to what youre already seeing.
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I think the main problem is the lack of setup. There was no emotional moment where Finn thought Poe died. Finn being so certain Poe had died to the extent where he does not recognize his supreme pilot skills seemed stupid to me, so I simply didn't even consider it.
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>>64519829
He flew with the guy once and was preoccupied with shooting guys, I doubt he would notice the subtle nuances of his flight, seeing as he's a fucking custodian.
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>>64519810
>The reveal he's alive is before Finn's reaction.
oh. damn wasn't paying attention I guess.
calm down autist I said I thought it was a great moment. not the great moment. I thought the whole sequence was cool.
>le quanitfying enjoyment
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>>64520000
that's true, I'll give you that
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>>64520085
>y-you autist
Yeah whatever you say
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Why is it any time there is a pilot in the he's the BEST PILOT EVER
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>>64511974
You are incredibly dumb
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>LyRa erso
>Lyra Erso
>LYra Erso

They can't keep getting away with this
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>>64519101
this
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>>64514032
>>64514107
>>64514167
>>64514239
>>64516161

By falling for the Oscar Isaacs meme you're every bit as bad as the people lining up for the latest Chris Pratt flick. These men are marketing tools, not actors. Inside Llewyn Davis was a hollywood shill job made for the express purpose of creating a new "legitimate" actor to be used in subsequent capeshit releases in order to attract the "film buff" demographic to maximize profits. This happens all the time in hollywood. They pluck out a new star with an inoffensive face from obscurity, put them in an indie shit on the cheap, and bam, they now have "legitimacy" "wow look at this hot new talented actor" appeal and can now be a new "artificial star" to hinge your summer tentpole release on.

It is all fraud, a manipulation. Oscar Isaac is no more an artist, no more a human being even, than the new mcdonalds festive hamburger promotion. He is smoke and mirrors, a light show, a pretend actor.

Exact same career progression is true of all of the shilled meme actors of late. Lawrence, Fassbender, Hardy. By supporting these "lesser known" critical darling you are only enabling the pre-production marketing phase of the capeshit machine.

Isaac is lying to you with his very existence.
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>>64522743
>already a pasta
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>>64518072
>happening in the sky
>poe takes out several groups of ground troops to free finn
try again m8
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>>64522743
>the tragedy of post that was supposed to be completely sincere but ended up memed as a pasta
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>>64522743
I know he's an actor, but he's legit still a human being. He's also an accomplished guitar player and singer, which landed him the Inside Llewyn Davis gig
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But they're cute together.
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