How do you think he tortured that guy.

Shot him in the stomach obviously

>>64506278
I'm pretty sure he water boarded him

>>64506278
Fear and humiliation

Got his crotch uncomfortably close to guys face

>yeah, a bad connoisseur Dio
What did he mean by this?

>>64506278
This "Sicario is amazing" meme needs to die.

The script was utter dogshit. It looked great, the actors were admirable, solidly edited, atmospheric score. But the writing... you could tell the writer has amateur at best knowledge on the subject. It was all very hokey and sensationalist, with dialogue that wouldn't be out of place on a Law and Order episode (This is the land of wolves). And then there were the contrivances. That Jon Bernthal scene was such a mess from a writing standpoint. The motherfucker happens to have that specific wrist band linked to the drug money in a previous scene? Fuck off. And all the characters other than the three mains were just wastes. I give this movie a 6/10 based on the atmosphere, performances, and other little things, but this won't win any awards and rightly so.

>>64506278
Dropped the water jug on his feet repeatedly.

>>64506278
His dick stinks really bad.

>>64506278
With dank memes

>>64507452
>>64507540
>>64507587
>>64507600

Loving every kek

>>64506278
how did he go from sleepy lazy mexican to splinter cell chaos theory mode?

>>64507503
>>yeah, a bad connoisseur, Dio

He was referring to Ronnie James Dio's notoriously poor diet (he never ate vegetables).

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>>64506278

>>64507524
heres your reply. Maybe by the time I posted this comment you grew some taste.

What did he mean with that American Hell line?

>>64507524
PREGUNTA PAISANO
QUIERE MORIR?

Del Toro was operator as fuck.

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>>64509614
YANKEE HELL

HE MEANS CIA TACTICS, RIL SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS HARDASS SHIT

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>>64508158
>sicario fans
>taste

>>64510449
is that Roon-Roon?

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>>64510640
NAME A BETTER WIDE RELEASE MOVIE THIS YEAR

PROTIP: FAGGOT DETECTED (ITS YOU)

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>>64510687
blackhat

>>64510727
Fucking this.

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>>64510727
I LIKED BLACKHAT BUT IT WAS NOT BETTER THAN SICARIO

TOO CHINKY, TOO UNBELIEVABLE. THE CHINESE LOVE INTEREST WAS HAMFISTED AND A TOTAL JOKE

TACOS ARE REALER THAN EGGROLL

>YFW ALL DEM CIRCUIT BOARD SHOTS IN BLACKHAT
LMAO

HACK THE PLANET!
t. MICHAEL 'I FORGOT MY FACEBOOK PASSWORD' MANN

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>>64510870
lol ok kid

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>>64510964
>BUTTHURT VILLENEUVE HATERS HAVE LITERALLY NOTHING

GOOD TO KNOW KUCCBOI :^)

SICARIO OFFICIALLY BEST WIDE RELEASE OF 2015 DEAL WITH IT KIDDO

>>64511020
>>64510870
>>64510687
see
>>64507524


Sicario was dogshit.

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>>64511020
>villeneuve fans

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>>64511069
YOUR PASTA IS HILARIOUSLY DUMB CRY MORE 0/10 BUTTHURT

SICARIO BEST WIDE RELEASE OF 2015. DISPUTE IT? YOU CANT

>>64511097
>HE THINKS BLACKHAT WAS BETTER THAN SICARIO

HOLY FUCKEN KEK

>all caps poster
Trip up please I want to filter you

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>>64511140
>villeneuve fan is also a star wars and batman fan

>>64511069
>liked Blackhat
>thinks his opinion is worth anything
Go to bed faggot.

So who was Sicario?

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>>64511178
CRY ABOUT IT BLACKHAT SHITTER

>>64511182
>BLACKHAT FAN HAS TERRIBLE TASTE AND THINKS HIS MOVIE IS BETTER THAN SICARIO
OHOHOHO

>>64511224
Blackhat is the bee's knees. Sicario is a terminal bore.

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>>64511246
Blackhat is a terminal bore.

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>>64511236
>villeneuve fan is also a marvel fan
>villeneuve fan will watch sicario for what he thinks is his intellectual main course and then wash it out with something like the force awakens and captain america for desert. before settling into a night of video games.

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>>64511339
>BLACKHAT FAN THINKS THE HEIGHT OF CINEMA IS FUCKING BLACKHAT

L M A O
M
A
O

>>64511236
I actually agree with you tbqh, but you are absolutely weaponized cancer.

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>>64511432
>villeneuve fan can't spell cinéma

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>>64511473
>BLACKHAT FAN THINKS HIS MOVIE IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A FLIQUÉ

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>>64511588
>heated villeneuve fan takes 5 minutes to respond

>>64507524
This

24 was more realistic than Sicario

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>>64511622
>BUTTHURT BLACKHAT FAN STILL MAD AFTER NAMEDROPPING AN INFERIOR TO MOVIE TO SICARIO AND GETTING BTFO

>>64511623
that's copy pasta fag

>>64511623
>movies must be realistic

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>>64511670
>villeneuve movie buff still defending this shit flick and posting images of a superior director whom which he hasn't even mastered

>>64511670
brb

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>>64511733
>REFN FAN POSTING AUTISM GOOSE IMPLYING HIS TASTE IS EVEN WORSE THAN PREVIOUSLY DISCLOSED

>>64507524

>wrist band

they used this shit to bundle the drug money in that town as seen in the bank scene before.
the drug lord buys cops to get information about the US investigations.
it's very fat fetched that he was given his monthly payoff along with the task to find out about blunt's investigation status right? i know. totally out of proportion and common sense.

>>64511858
But why keep that specific wristband at that very moment? Might as well have a picture of Emily with a target around her face.

>>64511858
>>64511937

Also, how was Bernthal's character so sure that he would be able to woo her and get her alone?

>>64512012
Who said he wasn't just trying to fuck Macer?
He only became aggressive when he figured out she was onto him.

>>64512060

But we know that wasn't the case as he was sent after her because she gave herself up on camera at the bank. Josh Brolin later tells her this.

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>>64511835
back

>he's still going after his flick got btfo by actual kino
>he thinks I'm a refn fan
>he doesn't like /tv/ goose
>he's probably a jake reddithaal fan just like his idol from prisoners
damn..

>>64507524
I'm sorry if it didn't make sense to your american ears

Op here. After seeing both films only a day apart, I gotta say Blackhat was better. Shit zero dark thirty was better than Sicario

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>>64512294

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>>64512229
>THINKS GOOSE IS A BETTER ACTOR THAN BASED JAKE
>STILL THINKS BLACKHAT IS BETTER THAN SICARO
PEAK JEJ

>>64512294
>HACKERS 2: NCIS BOOGALOO WAS BETTER THAN SICARIO
GOOD MEME

>>64512254
DON'T BOTHER WITH HIM, HIS AMERICAN EYES CANT EVEN READ A WATCH :^)

>>64512548
You are factually American

>>64512572
This

probably from reddit as well

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>>64512572
HE WAS USING 'YOUR AMERICAN EARS' IN THAT LINE TO MEAN THE CODDLED POLITICALLY CORRECT LIBERAL >MUH JUSTICE BY THE BOOK SJW SOFT CUNT SOCCER MOM MENTALITY, WHICH EMILY HAD

BROLIN WAS ALSO AMERICAN, BUT HIS AMERICAN EARS UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON, CUS HE'S A HARDASS CIA WOLF

SHE'S NOT A WOLF, AND WILL NEVER BE A WOLF, YET SHE WAS IN THE LAND OF WOLVES :^)

>>64512796
How does it feel to unironically defend such awful dialogue?

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>>64512851
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO STILL HATE ON THE BEST WIDE RELEASE MOVIE OF 2015 BECAUSE OF HOW TERMINALLY ASSBLASTED YOU ARE OVER AUTISTIC MINUTIA :^)

>>64512937
>That scene

Blackhat had way better cinematography

>>64510681
no, someone far superior

>>64512937
Meme cinematography alert

yuck

The script was a bit bonkers no doubt but the cast was good and it looked nice, good atmosphere too.

Idk why you guys are so autistic and argue about minor shit like rabid dogs in this thread.

>>64513002
>>64513015
It's Deakins so what do you expect? The man has no novel ideas
>Let's film characters really far away
>Let's film vehicles really far away
>Let's hold the camera steady for a few seconds longer than normal

>>64513020
A lawyer lost his family and turned himself into the Punisher. And you're defending this.

>>64513002
Blackhat looks like it was shot on a cheap cellphone

>>64512937
>that webm filename
Sicario confirmed as No Country for Old Men for people who were under 10 when No Country for Old Men came out.

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>>64513085
The cameras used in Blackhat were better than every film released this year what are you even talking about

>>64513131
God damn that is beautiful.
>>64512937
This is boring and atrociously generic.

>>64513131
What the fuck is this

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daily reminder

>It's a Shane's the bad guy episode

>>64513216
Would bang both

>>64513162
those sure are some spicy opinions

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>>64513198
DUDE ABSTRACT EXPRESSIONISM LMAO

>>64513216
do we have to have star wars in every fucking thread.

>>64513216
thanks for the thumbnail reddit

>>64510727
Touché

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>>64513131
>THIS IS A CREATIVE SHOT
PLEBS SURE ARE EASY TO IMPRESS

VS SICARIO:

BLACKHAT HAD A MUCH MORE LUDICROUS PLOT, FAR MORE CONTRIVED CHARACTERS, A ZERO CHEMISTRY LOVE THREAD HAMFISTED INTO THE STORY, LAUGHABLE CGI TECHNOCOOL CIRCUIT BOARD SCENES, TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PERFORMANCES BY LITERALLY EVERYONE, AND ONE MEME CINEMATOGRAPHY SCENE AT THE END

BY NO STRETCH OF EVEN THE MOST AUTISTIC IMAGINATION WAS BLACKHAT A BETTER MOVIE THAN SICARIO

>>64513312
TAKE UR MEMORY PILLS MIKE, UR OLD

>>64513131
This cinematography is almost as meme worthy as Kingsman.

>>64513417
Epic! He killed this guy because that guy killed his family! How do I know that? They told the audience five minutes ago! That's why I care! That's why it's so tense!

Zero Dark Thirty was better t b h f a m

Sicario is a plate of AIDS prepared for children.

wait. are there people who think villeneuve is a "hack" or "meme director"? i mean, you may don't like sicario, that's understandable. but villeneuve is a legitimately good director.

>>64513565
>but villeneuve is a legitimately good director.
He hasn't made a "good movie" yet.

"blackhat is good" is a meme

right?

>>64513584
You are right, he has only made excellent films.

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>>64513553
THIS GUYS TOP WIDE RELEASE OF 2015 WAS BLACKHAT

OR WAIT, MAYBE FURY ROAD? (LMAOOO)

CONTRARIANS LOVE TO BAIT BUT WHEN CHALLENGED HAVE NO LEGS TO STAND ON

>>64513565
Incendies was boring but tried to masquerade it with edgy twists

Prisoners was boring but tried to masquerade it with powerhouse performances.

Enemy was boring but tried to masquerade it with offbeat symbolism.

That's the problem with his movies: He thinks visual flair will carry empty, rote storylines. Sicario is his best film because it's the only one he's made so far that seems to have a purpose. Even then, the script was dogshit and the cinematography was meme.

Shit I enjoyed man from uncle more than I did this.

>>64513664
Blackhat is legitimately the film of the year. Your Fat Del Toro and skeleton woman and meme cinematography won't change that.

>>64513714
>>64513678
>meme cinematography

absolutely not

>>64513678
>the cinematography was meme.

You really think anyone should take anything of merit from your post when you use the word meme as a descriptor?

Fucking kill yourself

>>64513678
>cinematography was meme

you can't take seriously this kind of argument. do you use "meme" in your daily talks?

What the fuck are we doing here? Seriously now what?

I have not seen genuine discussion about a movie in months here. Just look at this fucking thread look at it. It's the same shit everyday, even if OP posts anything original you get pasta replies like >>64507524 and the whole thread dies in a second and goes into call-of-duty-chat category where everyone just shits on one another with "epic trolling"

What the fuck man, why am I even here

>>64513784
>>64513753
You're so upset right now because you understand exactly what I'm saying, and recognize a kernel of truth to it. Deakins phoning it in does not a MOTY make. He didn't shoot it that way because he was particularly inspired, he shot it that way because he knew idiots would lap it up and it was an easy paycheck. Simple as that.

this clusterfuck board is only worth for the memes

look at these imbeciles
>>64513584
>>64513678

>>64513811
Sicario is shit, now you know.

>>64513003
Kate?

>>64513875
Cry about it to your Chubbicio Del Toro body pillow.

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>>64513417
>ONE MEME CINEMATOGRAPHY SCENE AT THE END

So many of its images are already seared in my brain: a handheld camera bouncing and juddering as it chases the heroes through a Chinese aqueduct; a man speeding away on a motorboat as a blown-out sky vibrates behind him; a fist-fight in a Korean noodle house seems to envelope the camera in a blur of motion. I’ve seen Blackhat dismissed by plebs as silly or dramatically flat. It isn’t, but I rather think that misses the point. You don’t face up to a film like this look to pick apart its dialogue or story, even if you think they’ll withstand the scrutiny. When a rush of images this exquisite are upon you the only appropriate response is to give yourself over to them. Mann has pushed the action movie into the realm of abstract expressionism alright. Simply stand back and luxuriate in the beauty.

I hated that the main was a women. We should of got to know the Mexican cop and his family more. The black side kick didn't need to be in the film. It got awful when it turned into Call of Duty. Got better when we learned about del toro. Blunt should of shot del toro and booked it out of the hotel room then credits. B- it was alright.

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>>64513909
A computer genius reduced to a man with a blade in a deteriorating wash of digital bodies and fire. Strands of hair blowing in the wind and glances at necks and arms that say more than any amount of dialogue could. After seeing this 3 times now, i stand behind my claim that it's one of the scariest movies ever made. The velocity of the violence, and physicality of not just the prison style shanking at the end, but the way the guns operate. Mann is known for having loud gun sounds but they have never sounded so technical, the deafening rattle of bullets leaving the chamber and ejecting out their barrel. Ear piercing pangs reverberating through and around the tight tunnels, shipping containers and stone structures in that mid-movie shootout. Wei Tang's screams silenced so that all we can hear are the bullets hitting the back of the sign they're hiding behind. A final showdown that is more along the lines of a certain scene in The Tale of the Princess Kaguya than any live action film i've ever seen. The bodies of the leads moving against a sea of black and red, everything starts to become more and more abstract as they try to move closer while being pushed back by the huge crowd carrying fire torches, it starts to become hard to tell who is actually moving and then everything crashes down and the background suddenly becomes nothing but fire and bodies that collapse into flowing shapes. A shot that tracks along Hemsworth's arm and pans around to show his out of focus body against a backdrop of digital noise is one of the most truly 3D moments i've ever seen in a 2D movie.

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>>64513878

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>>64513964
Mann's digital camera continues to give bodies weight, the team of cops rushing through the tight pathways as the camera aggressively follows behind and tracks back adds an immediate feeling of not quasi-realism but real-realism? Everything carries weight, everything is there, it's happening now. It's not just a prop behind that gun, it's a human. He's one of the only contemporary directors that can achieve realism through abstraction. Claims that he doesn't care about his characters don't make any sense when he gives people without even a word of dialogue a more meaningful death than some films give their lead character, look at the way he focuses on Kassar's face as he finds out that one of his men isn't going to make it. Or the dying breaths of a cop that he lingers on as the rest of the team leave him behind not because they want to but because they have to.

>>64513843

Tell me how does a cinematographer phone it in?

He is there to do a job of making the film look great, and he succeeded.

The only kernel of truth here is just because you talk about cinematography and how "meme", you still have about as much film production knowledge as a middle aged housewife

>>64513678
how old are you. seriously

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>>64514013
Mann has a way of capturing bodies interacting with the space around them that's only as extraordinary as his ability to capture nightscapes. A film of broken communication and broken data, Blackhat is an exercise in pure form, with Mann concerned by the emotional effect of images, and a disregard for narrative logic and plausibility in favour of tech/digital beauty. His most experimental film, and one of 2015's best

Macro fuels micro, and vice versa, in Michael Mann’s world. He crafts scenes of intimacy as well as violence, an attention to gestures, whether it’s how Tang Wei keeps toying with her hair or the veins in her neck, or the posture of a man in a firefight, he’s keen on how bodies move. And he’s determined to show how their actions, sometimes marrying love to murder, usually in a climactic firefight scored by synths, reflect the world they live in. Hathaway is sprung from prison to track the code to its author, a generic detective plot fraught and complicated not just by his role as a con (and later fugitive) but also by the nature of how his expertise preys on the systems of the world. A small (though buff) man in the scope and size of the planet can cross any border he wants from the seat of his chair: he can get into the NSA (!), he can rob banks, he can trace a pattern in targets’ movements across a metropolis, he can talk to the Ukraine (or is it?) from Los Angeles. His reach is longer than his arms, though in the end that’s all he has to use.

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>>64513417
>BLACKHAT HAD A MUCH MORE LUDICROUS PLOT, FAR MORE CONTRIVED CHARACTERS, A ZERO CHEMISTRY LOVE THREAD HAMFISTED INTO THE STORY, LAUGHABLE CGI TECHNOCOOL CIRCUIT BOARD SCENES, TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PERFORMANCES BY LITERALLY EVERYONE, AND ONE MEME CINEMATOGRAPHY SCENE AT THE END


Blackhat is indeed too beautiful for this world, which is why unwashed people like you rejected it. "Too cold", they said. "Not realistic" they said. I struggle to understand what went through the mainstream critics' mind during Hathaway and Lien's first sex scene, which came at a time they were waiting until dawn for an international flight. It was out of necessity that they found each other, and their physical chemistry couldn't have been more perfect. It was beautiful.

And then there was the professionalism, on all fronts. It's a Mann film after all. Lien's brother catches her and Hathaway in bed together, and what does he do? Does he get all huffy and create unnecessary drama like literally hundreds of other movies with the same situation? No. He goes about his fucking job. They all go about their business, because the mission takes absolute precedent.

This is the type of thriller we desperately need these days. The human drama is there, but it's SECONDARY to the mission. But when the human drama is there, it's a home run. During the first firefight, some random mook is mortally wounded. Do the other nameless mooks just leave him there? No, they carry him to safety like he's a real person, a friend, a brother they've worked with before. When that random mook dies on the speedboat (it's not a true Mann film without a speedboat) you FEEL the loss that they feel.

nuke this board

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>>64514126

I seriously don't understand how people think Sicario is better than Blackhat. Is it all the call of duty shit?

>>64514256
>operating is bad

fuck off

>>64507524
He's 1000% right /tv/.

>>64513073
How do you know he has no military background? And isn't he pretty much confirmed to be Medellín?

>>64514256
It's not boring.

>>64514256
Blackhat is literally all about hacking that makes no sense. It's one of the cheesiest, stupidest, and worst acted movies of the decade

It was a great slow-burner movie but ultimately forgettable. 7/10

>>64514029
25

>>64515915
It shows

>>64514101
someone saved my copypasta from a year ago
I don't now if I should be flattered or embarrassed

>>64515915
i refuse to believe an adult uses "cinematography was meme" as an argument.

>>64515979
dude it gets posted here at least once a week

last time I saw it was in a Knight of Cups thread

>>64516015
I don't have to explain the harmonious beauty of my shitposting.

>>64514256
The hacking plot was really stupid, plus the Chinese brother and sister were terrible actors

>>64511623
who gives a shit about realism?

>>64514235
How the fuck do they hide the camera from the reflection on the metal teapot?

>>64517594
CGI most of the time.

>>64507524
pasta already?

>>64512548
What did he mean by this?

>>64507682
Whoa. This movie has a lot of layers.

>>64511020
Hey,nothing personal kid,its just that your taste is shit.

>>64507524
>This "Sicario is amazing" meme needs to die.

You took what was a well reasoned, explanatory post and capped it with reddit tier shit. "I'll call a popular opinion I disagree with a meme" isn't funny or even ironically cute.

Seriously brah you're better than that.

>>64510576
> PrintShop
BABY I'M SORRY I MISS YOU SO MUCH

>>64513964
>they have never sounded so technical, the deafening rattle of bullets leaving the chamber and ejecting out their barrel
In other words he's repeating what was done in Terminator 2 with some digital cleanup.

>>64517594
>>64518452
The reflection is incorrect; the coffee cup and the porcelain ramekin should be reflecting in it and yet they're not visible. What you're looking at is mirrored footage from a second camera offscreen at 10:30 from your 6, being wrapped around a nonexistent teapot (and the gray object in the middle that shouldn't be there is the placeholder object actually sitting in its place on the table).

If you look carefully at the adobe-colored building to the left of the teapot, it's in the reflection immediately to the inside edge of the teapot itself. It gives away that the mountain in the background was digitally composed into the shot.

>>64520816
>the coffee cup
the creamer, I mean.

The reflection should be with regards to the camera's viewpoint and yet it's not.

>>64520816
>and the gray object in the middle that shouldn't be there is the placeholder object actually sitting in its place on the table


I was impressed for a second but now I'm just disappointed.