TFA Monday box office fell 75% from last Monday. It's ogre.

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>haha no

>>64501806
Disney already won. They've proven they can make billions selling toys. Jim's flicks will never be as profitable as this franchise.

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>>64501823
> domestic
cute

>>64501823
>he doesn't understand the image he posted

>>64501848
Why does the rest of the world think they are important?

>>64501846
It should make the film even more suspect

> RED ARM

ANYWAY THIS IS /tv/ not /toy/

>>64501848
TFA is already at 1.5bn

its over for you my sad little friend, your meme is dead

>>64501806
even with 40% drops from now on, TFA was course for about $2.4b worldwide including China. any model where it beat Avatar would have required a slower trickle of money and less dependence on people who go to see it just because its the holidays.

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>>64501873

>>64501886

Why does America have such shit taste in film? TFA making as much money as it has is a fucking travesty

>>64501886
because if money is the only metric you're using for success then you have to count everyone's.

>>64501904
says the guy who remade dances with wolves with aliens

>>64501920
Again, why do you think you are important?

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>>64501929

>>64501920
it's actually just that more people exist today than did when the first Star Wars was released. all Disney have done is get a proportionate return based on the size of the existing fanbase.

movies aren't as central a part of pop culture as they were, and a movie like TFA appearing to overperform is actually just the result of nostalgia enabling it to temporarily buck that trend.

>>64501975
how can one man be so BASED.jpg

>>64501823

Avatards BTFO

>>64501848

America is the only country that matters.

Don't worry Avatard. It will also take international and all time records.

>>64501848

>the jews fear the samurai

>>64501975
A true auteur.

>>64501806
say the twat who made avatar

>>64501980
Is nostalgia a bad thing?

Oh, is this why some people here say Avatar is good? Because it made money? I never really understood that meme.

>>64502083
You know Jim even admits he doesn't make deep movies? He knows he makes blockbusters.

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>>64501806
it is still a cheap rehash. just proves that fans east every shit up

>>64501975
>>64501904

I feel like he has a quote for every argument against him ready to be slapped on an image. He talks like a sleazy politician.

>>64502187
JUST the kind of glib facsimile I was expecting.

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>>64502187
So quick we forget.

>james cameron

>>>/reddit/

>>64501920
>Why does America have such shit taste in film?
Reminder that the highest grossing film of all time in China is Transformers 4 followed by Furious 7
>Reminder that four of the top six grossing films of all time in Japan are animated. The other two are Titanic and Harry Potter 1.
>Reminder that the TFA is about to overtake Skyfall as the #1 film of all time Great Britain
>Reminder that Titanic is #1 and Welcome to the Sticks is #2 all time in France

>reminder that Iron Man 3 and Men In Black 3 and Pirates of the Carribean 4 all made nearly 800 million in foreign markets

Foreign markets have just as shitty taste as american markets. Sometimes shittier.

>>64502002

>STAR WARS WILL MAKE 600 MILLION IN CHINA!

>THEIR TOP GROSSING MOVIE IS ONLY 320 MILLION AND THEY DONT HAVE THE NOSTALGIA BUT IT WILL MAKE 600 MILLION!

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>>64501975
did he actually claim that "the world of pandora" is uniquely original? The fact that Pandora looks like he ripped it directly from the collected works of Roger Dean has been a huge complaint.

>tfw TFA has made me stop hating George Lucas and James Cameron

Disney really is the world's common enemy.

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>>64502340

>>64502266
> Missing the entire 3rd act

Bravo

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>>64502405

>There are Disney shills right now reading this who spend their day on /tv/ boasting about star wars and marvel

>>64502213
>quote is basically "I don't worry about what people think because I'm awesome"
>he talks like a sleazy politician

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>>64502290

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>>64502424

When someone asks you

>Hey whats the highest grossing movie of all time?

You know what what the answer will be. Nobody cares for domestic and I'm an American

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>>64502443

>>64502424
>>64502405
>>64502340
Roger lost his lawsuit. Give up. No one cares.

you guys do realize that it hasn't even opened in China yet, right? the second largest market in the world. It will get another 400 million there.

>>64502490
>I desperately need some (you)s

>>64502490
Chinks don't care about cuckwars. You would know this already if you weren't so busy browsing Reddit.

>>64502340
>>64502405
>>64502424
>>64502443
when attacking someone on behalf of a company rehashing an old film wholesale, you're going to have to use a different argument than using the visuals of a highly unfashionable fantasy artist who themselves had no truly original ideas.

>>64502439
That's not the essence of what he's saying at all. He's just trying to puff himself up as a visionary that is different from the other big directors. He is tooting his own horn sure, but he's not really saying "I don't care what people say"

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>>64502490
http://www.ibtimes.com/star-wars-china-box-office-lukewarm-presales-could-signal-trouble-disney-juggernaut-2248706

>>64502464
isn't the bottom shot from the computer game?

>>64502466
Even though the creators ADMITTED IN COURT they were inspired by Dean.

At least when Peter Hackson decided he wanted to copy an artists style for something in Lord of the Rings, he FUCKING PAID THEM instead of ripping them off. James Cameron is a thieving asshole who should have paid Roger Dean.

>>64502523
ebin meme

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>>64502340
>>64502424

I'LL BE THE ROOOUUUUND ABOUT!!!

THE WORDS WILL MAAAAKEE YOU OUT 'N OUT!!!!

YOU CHANGE YOUR DAAAAAYY, YOUR WAAAAAYYY!!!!

CALL IT MORNING DRIVING THROUGH THE SOUND AND IN AND OUT THE VALLEEEEYYYYY!!!!

>>64502530
>inspired
>HEY YOU RIPPED ME OFF GIVE ME MONEY

>>64502530
Lol, now Cameron haters are attacking his inspiration. Should Lucas have paid off the makers of Hidden Fortress?

>>64502508
his quote bears no resemblance to what a politician would say at all. you are a shill and the prompt emergence of Roger Dean art in this thread is proof that /tv/ is literally being trawled by Disney shills trying to keep fake "word of mouth" going for TFA and neutralize counterexamples which demonstrate the movie is shit.

>>64502546
holy shit /mu/ infiltration

in all seriousness I remember my dad listening to this shit, pretty cash.

>>64502520
>And that lukewarm reception comes despite Disney making a Disney-sized effort to introduce the "Star Wars" universe to a country full of millions of moviegoers who didn't grow up with Luke Skywalker and Han Solo — such as putting 500 storm troopers on the Great Wall.

Disney will be lucky to break even.

>>64502420
>Missing the entire 3rd act
Generic movie action + Fern Gully.

Not to mention, SW jacking beats from SW isn't stealing from other IP's. TFA is a "soft reboot," Avatar is a hack job full of stolen shit from completely unaffiliated films without attribution.

>>64502589
>/mu/
>pretty cash
fuck off back there

>>64502572
Actually the Roger Dean was all me, and I only pulled it out after I saw the quote (for the first time) and he said that The World of Pandora was "uniquely original."

I don't actually give a fuck about the whole Avatar vs Star Wars thing (both are mediocre movies), but the fact he actually believes that Pandora is uniquely original is idiotic. The technology was certainly unique and original and immensely impressive.

>>64502629
I was calling the song "cash"...

>>64502572

>being a butthurt hater

Cry some more

>>64502266
There is nothing new under the sun.

>>64502636
>The technology was certainly unique and original
No it wasn't. The "Technology" in Avatar may have well just been Pelicans from Halo and E-frames from Exo-Squad

Will Cameronfags finally commit sudoku when TFA overtakes Avatar?

>>64502860
Entirely Incorrect.

>>64502746
I know. Using the term "cash" is stupid

>>64501904
>Love Story slapped onto a preexisting event
>Shitty Time Travel Movies full of more wholes than Cheese
>Dances with Wolves with Ayy Lmaos

Yeah James, people want original ideas man, why don't you go back to your submarine and play Marine Biologist, atleast then you are helping people.

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>>64501975
Even his speeches are an work of art.

>>64502936
>Entirely Incorrect.
literally plugging your, ears closing your eyes, and screaming LALALALALALALA

>>64502910
>overtakes Avatar
TFA wouldn't come close without the inflated dollar we currently have

>>64502910
Having $15 tickets sure does help those profit margins. Also $20 3D viewings Avatar didn't have the benefit of to boost its numbers.

Avatar made 2 billion foreign alone, Star Wars fans were delusional to think it would beat Avatar

JC will never be defeated by reddit tier, capeshit style, star wars rehash.

>>64501975

DUDE
THE "CREATURES" ARE LITERALLY TALLER BLUE HUMANS WITH FUCKING CAT NOSES. THEY LITERALLY DON'T LOOK THAT IMPRESSIVE

THE "WORLD" IS JUST FERNGULLY ON STEROIDS FANCY JUNGLE

Holy shit, I can't hate him because he made Terminator 2 and True Lies, but his Avashit is got really out of hand.

>>64503367
Hey don't forget the GENIUS ANIMAL DESIGN of Hammerhead Rhinos, Pterodragons, Panthers with 6 legs, et al. The innovator of our time.

>>64501806
>given a franchise that literally prints money
>still can't topple james cameron, who didn't need franchises to make money
Someone at Disney will get fired over this.

>>64502464
Roger Dean invented riding on the back of an animal? Whoa.

>>64501975
he shilled for both Terminator Genesys and for the CG movie of Captain Harlock

he is hack

>>64503604
And you're shilling for Star Wars
Yeah...

>>64503367
>FERNGULLY
butthurt haters still trying to spreadthis meme

cry more

>>64502187
>TFA copied an older movie
How does this make it any different from A New Hope?

You understand A New Hope was practically a shot for shot scifi remake of the Kurosawa film The Hidden Fortress, right?

And that movie was just a copy of older stories.

>>64503758
no its not

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THOSE DELICIOUS TEARS

STARSHITS BEAT THE FUCK OUT!

CRY MORE!

>>64504517
If I gave enough of a shit, I could write that exact image but for The Hidden Fortress.

>>64504635
you would if you could but you cant

>>64501873
holy shit this image macro was so fuckin based in 2009

Can't unsee Jez from Peepshow.

>>64504685
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-cinema-behind-star-wars-the-hidden-fortress

Literally even their official website points out how similar they are. C-3PO and R2D2 are literal and intentional expies of the peasants from that movie.

>>64501848
Asians don't want to watch movies with black people. They fucked up with their social justice shit.

>>64504766
>nerds reading too much into shit

a vague similarity =/= shot for shot remake

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>>64504840
>vague similarity
Whole characters, shots, and plotlines were taken directly from the movie. Only an incredibly disingenuous little fuck who values winning an argument on the internet more than actually being right would try to dismiss that as "a vague similarity."

>>64504803
And liberals don't want to watch movies without black people, you gotta know your audience.

>>64504766
>http://www.starwars.com/news/the-cinema-behind-star-wars-the-hidden-fortress

>can only read the text on half of the fucking webpage

Jesus who did their web design I got cancer from that

>>64505080
I honestly thought that was just some weirdness from my script blocker I didn't care enough to remove.

>>64504881
sure thing autismo

>has brought in $1.5B where its split almost 50/50 domestic/foreign
>it needs another $1.3B in total to beat Avatar
>it needs another $650M domestic to beat Avatar
>it needs another $650M foreign to beat Avatar
>basically needs a miracle from JC himself
lmao

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>>64505211
>even GL himself acknowledged the importance of the film on his movies
>official, first-party source acknowledges how much Star Wars borrowed from The Hidden Fortress
>w-w-well they're vaguely similar
>whole plotlines, characters, and scenes directly taken from the movie, literally nobody disputes this, even George Lucas acknowledges it proudly

>shit I'm wrong, better call him autistic, that'll show him

>>64501975
I'll take what is "The Jesus Incident" for 1000, Alex.

>>64505331
it was just george trying to get a bit film maker cred by claiming inspiration after the fact

there are no spaceship, aliens, death stars, robots, in the old gook movie. there are only 7 basic plots in every movie every made. you can make up over analyzed link between anything if you're a massive sperg autist like you.

>>64501823
you won't be laughing for long

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>James, what are your fears about the new Star Wars movie?....James, why do you look like you really want to laugh but holding it in?

Are there actually people out there who don't think that Avatar 2 is going to absolutely blow The SJW Strikes Back in 2017? Cameron is going to single handedly EVISCERATE the Star Wars franchise once and for all. You'll be begging him to come back, telling him you're sorry, telling him you knew all along that Pandora was a far deeper, richer and spiritually compelling place than the vacuous meme shit being repackaged for lightsaber swinging millennial retards right now.

>>64502910

Wait until 2017 baby.

Just wait to see what Jimmy has in store for us, that he's been working on for the past 10 years. It's going to be like Terminator 2 all over again.

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>Needs another 600 million to beat Titanic
>Needs another 1.2 billion to beat Avatar
Based Jim's key to success is films that stay popular for long periods. Force Awakens is having a stratospheric rise and will suddenly level out. It might just beat Titanic but will never reach Avatar.

Screencap this.

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>>64501823

It's not FUCKING FAIR!!!

>global phenomenon vs b-b-but it's big in america!
Stay in your bubble Star Tards

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>>64507346
>Terminator 2
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/terminator-2-3d-rerelease-set-849272
I'm more hyped about this than any other major release this year. And then it's just over a year until neyneyney again.

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>>64501848
SWfags BTFO

>>64501848
>Yokai Watch

You post that as if Japan has taste

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>>64501823
Here's an extended estimation

>>64504803
And yet they watch movies with Mary Sues at the helm. Asians are cuck as fuck, why did JJ not see this and promote Mary as the lead (pleasing the cucks in America and Asia) instead of building up the most trivial reveal in cinema?

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>>64507954
>SW graph goes back
What sort of sorcerery is this?

>>64501848

And you idiots said the race of the character doesn't matter

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>>64501823
And here's the same graph for overseas.

>>64508043
TINY

>>64501846
>Disney already won. They've proven they can make billions selling toys

They already proved that with Cars 1 and Cars 2.
They are just repeating what Lucas did long 30 years.

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>Yes..i can hear you all...i hear you down there,talking shit. i listen and chuckle, to your anger and bitterness echoing from below. such intense rage yet so minute and insignificant...so distant. the hum of grandiose declarations, supported only by delusions of mere mortals. one after another they have crawled before the golden gates of the 2 billion mark. barely standing up,bloody and tearful, trying to grasp it with thier gaze, realizing they will never pass through. they gave thier absolute best, but never reached thier destination. cursing my name as they are being cemented for eternity to thier pitiful position. but i forgave the blasphemy, disregarded thier envy, while i sit on the throne, ever so confident in my divine right as the Emperor Director. yet i still wish for a worthy contender, for a noble spirit to clash swords with. it is indeed, lonely at the top...

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>>64507785
did he say that for real?

>>64502568
> hidden fortress hidden fortress hidden fortress hidden fortress hidden fortress

show me a link backing this up mate

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>>64502946
>I know. Using the term "cash" is stupid
And using the term 'based' isn't somehow.

>>64503045
>Avatar made 2 billion foreign alone
It was a movie about teh ebil US military invading de peaceful indigenous folks for their resources, are you genuinely surprised

>>64508043
wew that puts quite a different perspective on it

>>64508157
fuck off /pol/, ur shitty memes don't work here.

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>SWfags think the chinks are going to close thier 1.2 billion gap from Avatar

>>64505512
>there are only 7 basic plots in every movie every made
if you'd actually studied scriptwriting you'd know the correct number here, but thanks for your armchair opinion faggot

>>64507933
>taste
>my kid stuff is better than your kid stuff

Sure thing

>>64508099
It'll be hilarious when Star Wars ends up with a total of 1.99 billion

>>64507802
OH BOY POST PRODUCTION 3D

I've seen a number of them and they are uniformly hot garbage

BUT MUH CAMERON WILL FIX IT

He'll need to make meshes of all the actors to come close. Disney tried this with the Lion King 3D remake and it STILL looked like 3D in post. I mean, if he pulls it off it'll be a triumph, but let's be realistic here.

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>>64508043
>Cameron literally soaring over these pleb shits

>avatards clinging to subhuman, chemical huffing chinks

>>64502821
Nihi- what?

>>64501975
The SW Prequels created a better universe than Avatar. They had a better story too.

>>64508043
>>64508298
Avatar made literally double its nearest overseas-minus-China competitor: Deathly Hallows 2 made $900m overseas without China, Avatar made over $1.8b.

If Avatar was released today it would have made $600m+ in China for a $2.4b overseas gross.

>>64508206
You got BTFO, idiot.

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>>64508171
it does, and so does this.

Avatar released when there was no 3D cinemas, and barely any Imax released for studio films. Since then Nolan and Marvel have created a massive additional revenue.

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>>64502572

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Latest box office stats are out!

Batman vs Superman will destroy Avaturd

>I was only 19 years old
>I loved Avatar so much, I had all the merchandise and movies
>I pray to Cameron every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Avatar is love" I say; "Avatar is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for based James
>I called him a filthy pink human
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It's Jim
>I am so happy
He whispers into my ear "You don't need to lose any sleep tonight."
>He grabs me with his bathysphere claws and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for James
>He penetrates my butt-hole
>It hurts so much but I do it for free
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his boundaries
>I want to please Neytiri-James
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>My dad walks in
>James looks him straight in the eyes and says "Nothing personnel, dad."
>James leaves through my window
>Cameron is love. Cameron is life.

Star Wars is going to get BTFO by 13 hours directed by Micheal Bay. This is a MEURICA movie.

>>64508358
James Cameron invented the 3D camera for Avatar. It is safe to assume his next movie will top avatar. It was well liked in Asia. He always improves on his tech for every movie.

>>64508394
>Batman vs Superman will destroy Avaturd

LOL, not even Warner/DC executives believe that

>>64508440
I lost

>>64507609
>avengers:age of desolation of storytelling.

>>64508512
>James Cameron invented the 3D camera for Avatar
run that by me again

>>64508458
That movie looks like a massive pile of shit.

>>64508394
>Le she with you? XDD

>>64508394
BvS is going to be a dialogue meme mine at best and make bank at the box office but it's not going to redefine capeshit, topple Marvel, or do anything revolutionary outside its niche genre.

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2 more years ,bros.
hang in there..

>>64508659
Most MURICA movies are but MERICANS love seeing good ole white bois killing brown people.
>>64508654
The 3D tech in movies these days was invented by Cameron company for Avatar. They began licensing the tech to other companies afterwards.

>>64508816
OK, you said 'camera' so I got confused there

>>64508842
Jim literally crafted his own camera, jew jew barely knows how to use one.

>>64508789
I can already picture the trailer... some incredible underwater sequence.. new designs.. endless threads.. dankest memes

>>64508842
The 3D you see in movies is shot through a camera and then refined through a computer. There is a 3D camera for IMAX. That's what his company created. This is why his movie is numba one of all time. It was something fresh. His next movie will have something new. That's how directs.

>>64508358

TFA is longer than Jurassic World and is shown in less theaters and it's still demolishing it.
Avengers was shown in a lot of theaters, way more than JW or TFA, but still got beat.

These stats don't mean shit.

>>64508816
Yea but only a hand ful used it and not properly no one can even close to what he did, and his newer technology v2.0 is going to rekt everything

my body is fucking ready

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>>64508842
>Fusion Camera System (a.k.a. Reality Camera System 1) is a Digital movie camera system developed by James Cameron and Vince Pace. It was developed as a way to shoot features in stereoscopic 3D. The Fusion Camera System made first use of Sony HDC-F950 and later of Sony HDC-1500 HD cameras when they became available. The cameras are equipped with Fujinon lenses from Fujifilm.

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>>64507802
I've said for years that this is still the uncontested champion in terms of summer blockbuster filmmaking and it's barely aged a day since 1991.

I can see this making a staggering amount of money if it gets a standard global release. People just aren't used to this level of quality in mainstream films any more.

>>64509030
The ones everyone uses are export copies. Cameron company still has proprietary tech that wasn't license to other companies. That's why his movie looks great. His new version will look better than World of Warcraft movie.

>>64501823
Um this for the US only retard

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>>64508440
>He grabs me with his bathysphere claws

>>64509031
This camera is sick, blows everything else away.

The two cameras are tuned to converge with focus, so the viewer doesn't get eye strain. Most camera systems don't do this which is why the 3d in most movies suck

>>64508948
>The 3D you see in movies is shot through a camera and then refined through a computer.

Dual lens 3D film cameras were invented in the 1950s you underage fucktard, "3d in post" was invented in the 2000s.

> There is a 3D camera for IMAX. That's what his company created.
> 2002: Space Station, shot in 3D on IMAX
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290296/combined
> 2009: Abatap

I'm sure Jim-jam secretly created the cameras 7 years in advance and was just too humble to be credited anywhere

>>64509031
> this is in no way the first dual camera system

keep backpedaling

>>64509419
>The two cameras are tuned to converge with focus
that's amazing, it's almost like they're designed to work like cameras

> but muh jimmy

get over yourself, Jerry Lewis invented video dailies but no one needs to wank about it

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>>64508896
>yfw JIM CAM THE MAN puts a giant fucking Great White Shark alien monster in the trailer to terrify the fuck out of you

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>>64509574
>>64509596
>>64509693
>replying to every post

>>64509693
Why are u so butthurt? George Lucas invented nothing. He basically took the background projection ideas of Kubrick, and shoved more lasers up its ass.

>>64509574
He didnt say he invented THE 3d camera. He said developed A 3d camera, dummy.

>>64510099
>George Lucas invented nothing.
Except computer controlled tracking, a staple of the industry.

Keep showing off your general ignorance, it's entertaining

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>>64510004
wew lad

>>64509978
I was actually thinking the same thing but a Giant shark on land. Street sharks or something? It's going to be insane and im going to be there DAY1 IMAX to see this beautiful film in all it's fucking glory

BASED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=142gTbBDzWM

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>>64508393
My sides are in orbit

>>64512446
amzing thanks for sharing this, and literally like the guy s said 15/5

>>64501886
I'm pretty sure China is the reason why we keep getting Michael Bay Transformers movies.

will never understand how Avatar got such stratospheric numbers. it had nothing go for it, blue alien dudes and shit with no previous source material. just what exactly captivated the masses so much?

I will always be amazed by it. I never saw it myself, but it has to be something great.

>>64514334
>Why did it make so much! It only has blue aliens and shit! Nothing going for it!
Nice bait. You must've began to watch movies in 2012, starting with The Avengers, right? :^)

>>64501904

Says the guy famous for his sequels.