TFA Monday box office fell 75% from last Monday. It's ogre.
even with 40% drops from now on, TFA was course for about $2.4b worldwide including China. any model where it beat Avatar would have required a slower trickle of money and less dependence on people who go to see it just because its the holidays.
it's actually just that more people exist today than did when the first Star Wars was released. all Disney have done is get a proportionate return based on the size of the existing fanbase.
movies aren't as central a part of pop culture as they were, and a movie like TFA appearing to overperform is actually just the result of nostalgia enabling it to temporarily buck that trend.
it is still a cheap rehash. just proves that fans east every shit up
>Why does America have such shit taste in film?
Reminder that the highest grossing film of all time in China is Transformers 4 followed by Furious 7
>Reminder that four of the top six grossing films of all time in Japan are animated. The other two are Titanic and Harry Potter 1.
>Reminder that the TFA is about to overtake Skyfall as the #1 film of all time Great Britain
>Reminder that Titanic is #1 and Welcome to the Sticks is #2 all time in France
>reminder that Iron Man 3 and Men In Black 3 and Pirates of the Carribean 4 all made nearly 800 million in foreign markets
Foreign markets have just as shitty taste as american markets. Sometimes shittier.
did he actually claim that "the world of pandora" is uniquely original? The fact that Pandora looks like he ripped it directly from the collected works of Roger Dean has been a huge complaint.
when attacking someone on behalf of a company rehashing an old film wholesale, you're going to have to use a different argument than using the visuals of a highly unfashionable fantasy artist who themselves had no truly original ideas.
That's not the essence of what he's saying at all. He's just trying to puff himself up as a visionary that is different from the other big directors. He is tooting his own horn sure, but he's not really saying "I don't care what people say"
Even though the creators ADMITTED IN COURT they were inspired by Dean.
At least when Peter Hackson decided he wanted to copy an artists style for something in Lord of the Rings, he FUCKING PAID THEM instead of ripping them off. James Cameron is a thieving asshole who should have paid Roger Dean.
I'LL BE THE ROOOUUUUND ABOUT!!!
THE WORDS WILL MAAAAKEE YOU OUT 'N OUT!!!!
YOU CHANGE YOUR DAAAAAYY, YOUR WAAAAAYYY!!!!
CALL IT MORNING DRIVING THROUGH THE SOUND AND IN AND OUT THE VALLEEEEYYYYY!!!!
his quote bears no resemblance to what a politician would say at all. you are a shill and the prompt emergence of Roger Dean art in this thread is proof that /tv/ is literally being trawled by Disney shills trying to keep fake "word of mouth" going for TFA and neutralize counterexamples which demonstrate the movie is shit.
>And that lukewarm reception comes despite Disney making a Disney-sized effort to introduce the "Star Wars" universe to a country full of millions of moviegoers who didn't grow up with Luke Skywalker and Han Solo — such as putting 500 storm troopers on the Great Wall.
Disney will be lucky to break even.
>Missing the entire 3rd act
Generic movie action + Fern Gully.
Not to mention, SW jacking beats from SW isn't stealing from other IP's. TFA is a "soft reboot," Avatar is a hack job full of stolen shit from completely unaffiliated films without attribution.
Actually the Roger Dean was all me, and I only pulled it out after I saw the quote (for the first time) and he said that The World of Pandora was "uniquely original."
I don't actually give a fuck about the whole Avatar vs Star Wars thing (both are mediocre movies), but the fact he actually believes that Pandora is uniquely original is idiotic. The technology was certainly unique and original and immensely impressive.
>Love Story slapped onto a preexisting event
>Shitty Time Travel Movies full of more wholes than Cheese
>Dances with Wolves with Ayy Lmaos
Yeah James, people want original ideas man, why don't you go back to your submarine and play Marine Biologist, atleast then you are helping people.
THE "CREATURES" ARE LITERALLY TALLER BLUE HUMANS WITH FUCKING CAT NOSES. THEY LITERALLY DON'T LOOK THAT IMPRESSIVE
THE "WORLD" IS JUST FERNGULLY ON STEROIDS FANCY JUNGLE
Holy shit, I can't hate him because he made Terminator 2 and True Lies, but his Avashit is got really out of hand.
>TFA copied an older movie
How does this make it any different from A New Hope?
You understand A New Hope was practically a shot for shot scifi remake of the Kurosawa film The Hidden Fortress, right?
And that movie was just a copy of older stories.
THOSE DELICIOUS TEARS
STARSHITS BEAT THE FUCK OUT!
Literally even their official website points out how similar they are. C-3PO and R2D2 are literal and intentional expies of the peasants from that movie.
Whole characters, shots, and plotlines were taken directly from the movie. Only an incredibly disingenuous little fuck who values winning an argument on the internet more than actually being right would try to dismiss that as "a vague similarity."
>can only read the text on half of the fucking webpage
Jesus who did their web design I got cancer from that
>has brought in $1.5B where its split almost 50/50 domestic/foreign
>it needs another $1.3B in total to beat Avatar
>it needs another $650M domestic to beat Avatar
>it needs another $650M foreign to beat Avatar
>basically needs a miracle from JC himself
>even GL himself acknowledged the importance of the film on his movies
>official, first-party source acknowledges how much Star Wars borrowed from The Hidden Fortress
>w-w-well they're vaguely similar
>whole plotlines, characters, and scenes directly taken from the movie, literally nobody disputes this, even George Lucas acknowledges it proudly
>shit I'm wrong, better call him autistic, that'll show him
it was just george trying to get a bit film maker cred by claiming inspiration after the fact
there are no spaceship, aliens, death stars, robots, in the old gook movie. there are only 7 basic plots in every movie every made. you can make up over analyzed link between anything if you're a massive sperg autist like you.
>James, what are your fears about the new Star Wars movie?....James, why do you look like you really want to laugh but holding it in?
Are there actually people out there who don't think that Avatar 2 is going to absolutely blow The SJW Strikes Back in 2017? Cameron is going to single handedly EVISCERATE the Star Wars franchise once and for all. You'll be begging him to come back, telling him you're sorry, telling him you knew all along that Pandora was a far deeper, richer and spiritually compelling place than the vacuous meme shit being repackaged for lightsaber swinging millennial retards right now.
>Needs another 600 million to beat Titanic
>Needs another 1.2 billion to beat Avatar
Based Jim's key to success is films that stay popular for long periods. Force Awakens is having a stratospheric rise and will suddenly level out. It might just beat Titanic but will never reach Avatar.
I'm more hyped about this than any other major release this year. And then it's just over a year until
And yet they watch movies with Mary Sues at the helm. Asians are cuck as fuck, why did JJ not see this and promote Mary as the lead (pleasing the cucks in America and Asia) instead of building up the most trivial reveal in cinema?
>SW graph goes back
What sort of sorcerery is this?
>Yes..i can hear you all...i hear you down there,talking shit. i listen and chuckle, to your anger and bitterness echoing from below. such intense rage yet so minute and insignificant...so distant. the hum of grandiose declarations, supported only by delusions of mere mortals. one after another they have crawled before the golden gates of the 2 billion mark. barely standing up,bloody and tearful, trying to grasp it with thier gaze, realizing they will never pass through. they gave thier absolute best, but never reached thier destination. cursing my name as they are being cemented for eternity to thier pitiful position. but i forgave the blasphemy, disregarded thier envy, while i sit on the throne, ever so confident in my divine right as the Emperor Director. yet i still wish for a worthy contender, for a noble spirit to clash swords with. it is indeed, lonely at the top...
>I know. Using the term "cash" is stupid
And using the term 'based' isn't somehow.
>SWfags think the chinks are going to close thier 1.2 billion gap from Avatar
OH BOY POST PRODUCTION 3D
I've seen a number of them and they are uniformly hot garbage
BUT MUH CAMERON WILL FIX IT
He'll need to make meshes of all the actors to come close. Disney tried this with the Lion King 3D remake and it STILL looked like 3D in post. I mean, if he pulls it off it'll be a triumph, but let's be realistic here.
>Cameron literally soaring over these pleb shits
Avatar made literally double its nearest overseas-minus-China competitor: Deathly Hallows 2 made $900m overseas without China, Avatar made over $1.8b.
If Avatar was released today it would have made $600m+ in China for a $2.4b overseas gross.
it does, and so does this.
Avatar released when there was no 3D cinemas, and barely any Imax released for studio films. Since then Nolan and Marvel have created a massive additional revenue.
>I was only 19 years old
>I loved Avatar so much, I had all the merchandise and movies
>I pray to Cameron every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Avatar is love" I say; "Avatar is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for based James
>I called him a filthy pink human
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>I am so happy
He whispers into my ear "You don't need to lose any sleep tonight."
>He grabs me with his bathysphere claws and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I spread my ass-cheeks for James
>He penetrates my butt-hole
>It hurts so much but I do it for free
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his boundaries
>I want to please Neytiri-James
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>My dad walks in
>James looks him straight in the eyes and says "Nothing personnel, dad."
>James leaves through my window
>Cameron is love. Cameron is life.
BvS is going to be a dialogue meme mine at best and make bank at the box office but it's not going to redefine capeshit, topple Marvel, or do anything revolutionary outside its niche genre.
Most MURICA movies are but MERICANS love seeing good ole white bois killing brown people.
The 3D tech in movies these days was invented by Cameron company for Avatar. They began licensing the tech to other companies afterwards.
The 3D you see in movies is shot through a camera and then refined through a computer. There is a 3D camera for IMAX. That's what his company created. This is why his movie is numba one of all time. It was something fresh. His next movie will have something new. That's how directs.
TFA is longer than Jurassic World and is shown in less theaters and it's still demolishing it.
Avengers was shown in a lot of theaters, way more than JW or TFA, but still got beat.
These stats don't mean shit.
>Fusion Camera System (a.k.a. Reality Camera System 1) is a Digital movie camera system developed by James Cameron and Vince Pace. It was developed as a way to shoot features in stereoscopic 3D. The Fusion Camera System made first use of Sony HDC-F950 and later of Sony HDC-1500 HD cameras when they became available. The cameras are equipped with Fujinon lenses from Fujifilm.
I've said for years that this is still the uncontested champion in terms of summer blockbuster filmmaking and it's barely aged a day since 1991.
I can see this making a staggering amount of money if it gets a standard global release. People just aren't used to this level of quality in mainstream films any more.
The ones everyone uses are export copies. Cameron company still has proprietary tech that wasn't license to other companies. That's why his movie looks great. His new version will look better than World of Warcraft movie.
This camera is sick, blows everything else away.
The two cameras are tuned to converge with focus, so the viewer doesn't get eye strain. Most camera systems don't do this which is why the 3d in most movies suck
>The 3D you see in movies is shot through a camera and then refined through a computer.
Dual lens 3D film cameras were invented in the 1950s you underage fucktard, "3d in post" was invented in the 2000s.
> There is a 3D camera for IMAX. That's what his company created.
> 2002: Space Station, shot in 3D on IMAX
> 2009: Abatap
I'm sure Jim-jam secretly created the cameras 7 years in advance and was just too humble to be credited anywhere
>The two cameras are tuned to converge with focus
that's amazing, it's almost like they're designed to work like cameras
> but muh jimmy
get over yourself, Jerry Lewis invented video dailies but no one needs to wank about it
>yfw JIM CAM THE MAN puts a giant fucking Great White Shark alien monster in the trailer to terrify the fuck out of you
>replying to every post
I was actually thinking the same thing but a Giant shark on land. Street sharks or something? It's going to be insane and im going to be there DAY1 IMAX to see this beautiful film in all it's fucking glory
will never understand how Avatar got such stratospheric numbers. it had nothing go for it, blue alien dudes and shit with no previous source material. just what exactly captivated the masses so much?
I will always be amazed by it. I never saw it myself, but it has to be something great.