...so this actually sucked?
What the fuck were they thinking?
>we should do victorian holmes wudbkl
>yeah i agree. and also we should load it with liberal pandering like the suffragettes who murder men, including an entire monologue consisting of feminist praise which doesnt really fit or need to be said. also make watson a little bitch and subservient to literally every woman in his life. also make sure we remind people that sherlock is a gay. also we should be sure not to progress the running narrative at all. not in the slightest.
>yeah victorian would be cool i agr.... wait, what?
Why is BBC neutering everything?!? First Dr. Who Emo edition and now Sherlock Holmes novels....arrrghhhh!
>this actually sucked
I agree 100%
And this has nothing to do with being an edgy contrarian 4chan poster who shits on popular telly like Sherlock
I loved Sherlock, but this episode was garbage and it has made me rethink my entire life.
I never want to watch Sherlock ever again
The suffragettes were a fantastic movement but in this episode the cult of women are only using this whole thing to kill some men that hurt them? What in the actual fuck man, at least use the power to influence politics in a larger scale. Serious shite.
Also: overexplained, convoluted, boring and predictable story. Dissapointing. Some of the 9fags I know liked the fanservice of seeing all the actors again. They're idiots.
"the faint scent of penis on each man's breath"
/tv/ is fun!
production values were very good.
it started off promisingly, and most of the holmes/watson interactions were alright. Lestrade was pretty good.
but while you can accept a modern retelling of Sherlock holmes to forgo the cold genius and instead make him an actual socipathic autist, that doesnt work when putting the character back in his natural habitat of Victorian london, and as such, the lack of any actual detective work or actual deduction was sorely apparent and stuck out like a sore thumb. the suffrage shit was hamfisted as fuck, and they went out of their way to make the men the "bad guy", (including watson in one cringeworthy scene)
also, they took like 3 different classic cases and mushed them all together. there's no reason why the Abominable Bride had to have anything to do with The Five Orange Pips, which is it's own story.
i read a review that said and I agree: "while modern Sherlock is an anti-hero, victorian Sherlock is obnoxious"
also, while all the promotional material made it seem like they were going to lampshade the traditional "sherlock holmes outfit" gaffe, wherein the outfit is something only ever actually worn in the countryside, while typical characterizations have him wear it in the city- it instead plays it completely straight and he wears almost nothing but the outfit.
Mycroft was pretty stupid too, with the HURRHURR IM GONNA EAT MYSELF TO DEATH TO WIN A BET
which is something Im betting the writers thought was very clever and witty, but which is just stupid, especially for two hyper intelligent victorian characters who know better than to have that kind of childish wager.
tl;dr had potential, but they fucked it up worse than modern Sherlock even.
obnoxious, but for different reasons
he is obnoxious, because he takes great pride in proving his superiority to others. he is NOT a humble person and frowns upon humility.
Sherlock in this special, is obnoxious because he behaves like an autistic know it all cunt, while pulling shit from thin air like
mentioned his writers do all the time, and there is a certain lack of any real detective work.
Ah...I've read the short stories. Only seen 30 seconds of this series. Sherlock runs from the police and gets Watson in trouble, and then treats Watson like a piece of shit
Which is nothing like Doyle's Sherlock
What was his name again?
I agree the writing was generally bad.
In any case, I think the conclusion of how the Bride played her trick was terrible. They make it out to be this fantastic coy by whomever was involved. For it to be something as simple as a plastic bag of blood and a fake body. I felt so betrayed.
I won't be watching Sherlock any longer. Feel conflicted for having been sucked into it for so long; maybe those who say the series was always this terrible, but that I was deluded, were right.
it's not BBC to blame this time it's steven moffat.
All that stuff about how he hates women in press got to finally got to him and decide to write about victorian shooting their husbands because they can't vote in a miss guided apology.
It's certainly better than the /a/utism-tier 'discussion' that goes on in the Doctor Who and Sherlock threads, thought it's not even that just some fake geek shite,
I love how everyone complaining about things in this Christmas special just completely forget two things:
1. It was all in Sherlock's mind. You see the aspects of certain characters how HE sees them. For example, Mycroft being fat was Sherlock tearing down Mycroft in his mind.
2. There's literally a part where Moriarty mocks and derides Sherlock for how retarded his theories are. "Is it silly enough for you?"
The only important part was that Moriarty is dead, and someone is posing as him to spook people. The rest of it is unimportant because all BBC Christmas specials are intended to be able to be skipped without missing out on the important story progression in the proper seasons.