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Well?
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Go outside sometime.
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Tumblr crossposters will shitpost your thread to oblivion
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My hemorrhoids are flaring up, man

It's annoying as fuck

What do?
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>>64475564
This "Sicario is amazing" meme needs to die.

The script was utter dogshit. It looked great, the actors were admirable, solidly edited, atmospheric score. But the writing... you could tell the writer has amateur at best knowledge on the subject. It was all very hokey and sensationalist, with dialogue that wouldn't be out of place on a Law and Order episode (This is the land of wolves). And then there were the contrivances. That Jon Bernthal scene was such a mess from a writing standpoint. The motherfucker happens to have that specific wrist band linked to the drug money in a previous scene? Fuck off. And all the characters other than the three mains were just wastes. I give this movie a 6/10 based on the atmosphere, performances, and other little things, but this won't win any awards and rightly so.
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Everybody is still chasing the GOAT
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>>64475564
Why are you so obsessed with womans rights on a chinese cartoon board senpai?
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>>64475564

nobody cares
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>>64475564
Completely true OP. Good post. It's unbelievable that people keep buying into the propaganda. Disney had a chance for real progress if they had actually written a good female character instead of this blatant mind control propaganda that they call SW 7
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>>64475564
But blunt gets her shit pushed in the entire movie.

Feminists would never acknowledge her as a strong female character.
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>>64475630
Furiosa almost got in there
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The left is a male character being played by a female actor.

The right is a female character being played by a female actor.
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>>64475609
Stab them, then cauterize the wound with a BIC lighter
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>>64475626
Hating women is Reddit tier anon don't you know that yet?
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>>64475564
pandering =/= propaganda

Read a fucking book
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>>64475683

Is this some kind of autist language?
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>>64475686
got those backwards
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>>64475564
I didn't watch the new Star Wars.
Does she actually says "stop holding my hand" ?
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>>64475697
Nice try at false flagging reddit
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>>64475686

You have that backwards

>frail, thin girl dropped off on a desert and fends off bandits for over a decade with a fucking stick

I don't know how this made sense in their mind
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>>64475738
yes.
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>>64475630
reminder that aliens forced ripley into the role of a tradtional housewife and a traditional mother
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>>64475722
cultural marxism = propaganda
read a book yourself, faggot
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>>64475628
Anybody that thinks the script is bad is a fucking idiot. Taylor Sheridan wrote a fantastic script. The dialouge was great (This is the land of wolves was an iconic line) Did it have some sensationalism, yes, but it was necessary in terms of the point the film was trying to make. Well never know all the details about domestic based CIA ops so they essentially had to sensationalize some parts. None of it was over the top however, and completely believable.
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>>64475747
Horrible backtracking v/eddit, you're to transparent
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>>64475564
When does she say I am a woman?
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>>64475764
Reminder that Aliens is shit and that I should've posted a pic from the original
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>>64475697
>having a non-liberal opinion is reddit

utter newshit detected

kill yourself hole
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>>64475780
>cultural marxism
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>>64475722
The whole point of pandering is propaganda you moron.
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>>64475628
>I am a contrarian
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>>64475830
cry more
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>>64475564
So you would just let some random black dude hold your hand?
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>>64475786
>Taylor Sheridan wrote a fantastic script.
He did his research on Google and had the characters behave idiosyncratically delivering cryptic proverbs to each other. It was dreadfully toned and unrealistic. The only things good about it are the tension in the border scene, Josh Brolin twirling his mustache, and aspects of the cinematography. Everything else, nah.
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She's not a mary sue, she's just perfect and you can't find a flaw, that's why you're mad.
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>>64475830
>I'm too stupid to look up Cultural Marxism which is what I support blindly cause I'm a sheep
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>>64475669
She is. Sure, she gets shat on the entire movie, but she does not give up, she tries to stand her ground, find out what is going on. And to a degree she succeeds.

she is strong, but realistic female character. Of course not being mary sue she will never be acknowledged as such

she also makes my dick melt
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>>64475915
>behave idiosyncratically delivering cryptic proverbs

You don't know what "idiosyncratically", "cryptic" or "proverbs" means, nigger.
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>>64475764

>Traditional housewives and mothers regularly use flamethrowers
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>>64475564
>Well
Well, you are an idiot.
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>>64475979
>why haven't you taken the red pill bro? if you're not with us you're against us!
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>>64476007
>You're asking me how a watch works. For now we'll just keep an eye on the time.
That is a cryptic proverb by an idiosyncratic character.
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>>64475822
having a dumbass gamergate no girls allowed attitude is Reddit, yes.
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>>64476030
She can use whatever she likes, long as she knows her cunt place.
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Since we're on this subject, can anyone explain to me why she was so uncooperative from the start?

Their operation might have seemed shady but it seemed like the necessary kind of shady that nobody would dislike with

I'm neither a native speaker nor a North/central american though so some nuance might have been lost on me
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>>64476093
>m-muh gaymurgayt bogeyman

dumb cunt SJW detected :^)

cry some more cuck
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>>64475915
What's wrong with doing research on google? There is a lot of good stuff out there if you understand credible sources.

The idiosyncratic nature of the characters made the film interesting. Each character was representing a larger personality as a whole (ie, Josh Brolin-CIA, Kate-common person, Del Toro- Cartel politics/Cartel etc.) I don't understand your argument there. The cryptic proverbs add to cloack and dagger esque nature of the film and is a metaphor for how agencies interact with eachother.

Agree with you on everything else. Roger Deakins cinematography was god tier. He made Arizona and Mexico look like a different planet. Especially those airplane shots.
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>>64476030
if they're around and your husband's been injured and your daughter needs protecting you fuckin betcha

>>64476103
suck it
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>>64476114

>Female bosses being uncooperative
>surprising
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>>64476114
It's mostly bad writing. Sicario looks beautiful and it's very well directed, but the script isn't that great and characters' motivations are often unclear.
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>>64475915
>idiosyncratically
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>>64476114
It might not look shady when compared to what cops do other movies, but it'd be pretty fucking shady IRL.
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>>64476114
She was kept in the dark about what they were doing from the beginning. She had no idea that she was just being used so the CIA could operate domestically. She was under the assumption that they would be going after the cartel in a lawful manner.

That's essentially the point of her character. She's the moral compass of the film and serves as the common man/woman. Most people don't agree with cold blooded murder.
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>>64476162
u triggered?

u gonna cry about it pumkin?
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>>64475564
>I AM A WOMAN
When the fuck does she even say that?
When is the fact that she is a woman even brought up or relevant in any way?
There is literally nothing feminist about this movie you retarded shitposter.
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>>64475987

The most important events of the story are pretty much out of her control. She has no say in what happens in the climax, which makes her a pretty piss poor protagonist.
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>>64476168
This is completely wrong. The characters motives are pretty clear from the get-go. There really are no hidden motives in the film.
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>>64476168
>I didn't get it so it was bad
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Girls in tactical gear is my fetish
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>>64476257
I am not saying she is decent protagonist or whatever, just that she's well balanced female character.

Not mary sue superwoman, not >lolwomenamirite laughing stock either.
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>>64476161
>What's wrong with doing research on google?
It's a very detached form of research don't you think? If Sheridan actually cared about the subject, why not interview people who were really there and get it straight from the horse's mouth? Sheridan admitted to using Google so I don't think he did all he could do for the sanctity of the story. And the "cloak and dagger" aspect really worked to the film's detriment, because the initial mystery isn't worth caring about: Some gang members bring drugs into the country and kill everyone who gets in their way. Happens all the fucking time.
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>>64476068
>A guy who's trying to keep things hush hush gives bullshit answers when asked a question

Yeah sounds about right.

There are bigger problems with the writing you can pick up on.
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>>64475564
>Acknowledges she is a woman and is feminine
>Doesn't shove it in your face that she is female and has a vagina

These 2 points are at odds with one another
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>>64476208
>>64476221
As I said it did look shady but I didn't get any "what they are doing here is wrong" or "seomeone could think that is wrong" vibes, until the big reveal at least
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>>64475747
>>64475822
No he's right. Without women we wouldn't have cunny and feet and cunny feet.
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>>64475564

They're BOTH propaganda, dumb ass.
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>>64476336
>Are you Christian?
>Why yes I am.

>I AM A CHRISTIAN AND YOUR ATHEISM OFFENDS ME WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN MUH GAWD
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>>64475857
>I am not a contrarian
where did your life go so wrong?

damn..
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>>64476238
nah I got nobody to hold me while I do it
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>>64476296
Good lad
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>>64476246
can't you read between the lines? the whole film pushes this women are equally capable as men and can support and lead themselves when we know that 95% can't/don't want to, so it portrays an unrealistic reality and expectation that women aren't meant to live up to

Tl;dr its cultural Marxism propaganda being pushed by the Zionist owned media and Hollywood to weaken America and remove any trace of Christianity and the founding principles upon this country was built
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>>64476355
>trying this hard to fit in

sheeeiiiiiit
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>>64475892
How's that relevant
Respecting is different from being a male feminist
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>>64476346
First of all, they refused to give her much details. Or enough atleast.
And that Mexico highway shootout was a mess as well. Sure they can legally claim self-defence but that's not what it was.
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>>64476387
not to mention that i am pretty sure i have seen some glimpses of reptilian eyes here and there
it fuckin sickens me

if you cant accept that its nothing but cultural Marxism propaganda you are buying the new world order's lies
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>>64476093
Reddit pls leave.
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>>64476387
>can't you read between the lines?

yeah and if you fold the 10 dollar bill like so, it shows a laughing jew pointing at 9/11, but these fucking SHEEPLE don't want to know about it.
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>>64476378
thats too bad

:^)
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>>64476381
>ywn lick the sweat clean from every inch of her body as your only source of fluids

brb sudoku
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>>64476114
>Hey we want you to work for this guy.
>Who is he?
>Oh just a guy.
>Okay what are we doing?
>Don't worry about it.
>Okay sure.

Later.

>Hey guy I'm here, what do you want me to do?
>Nothing just chill we got this.
>Then why am I even here?
>Don't worry about it.

Whole thing was shady as fuck.
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>>64475726
HES CALLING HIM A NEWFAG BY HIS FILENAME WHICH IS TIED TO THE UNIX DATE
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>>64476387
It's funny because some people actually believe this.
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>>64476398
The irony.
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>>64476387
>one girl who has been stranded on a desert planet fending for herself and surviving and therefore has skills that could let her hold her own against men is representative of all women everywhere and therefore THE JEWS DID IT

>Tl;dr its cultural Marxism propaganda being pushed by the Zionist owned media and Hollywood to weaken America and remove any trace of Christianity and the founding principles upon this country was built

oh i get it, youre retarded
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>>64476407
Yeah I got that, but trying to make their whole operation fail (like the black guy (Reg?) suggests at some point) just because they don't have enough information? That's what bugs me
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>>64476494
cry more
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>>64476454
Hold the phone I'm not a sjw, I just appreciate Ripley's character in Alien and Alien 3.
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>>64475564
Villeneuve is vastly more talented than Abrams.
It's no wonder his characters are better.
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>>64476516
> trying to make their whole operation fail
She never does that.
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>>64476503
characters in film are more often than not representative of ideas and agendas, for example Rey being a portrayal of the neo feminist movement and Finn being the meek timid emasculated modern male

grow up
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>>64476561
you should still read those books tbн faм
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>>64476316
Sure yeah it's detached but I still don't see what's bad about it. There are still a lot of credible sources out there that you can find utilizing google.

I mean the film was trying to make an overall point which I believe it succeeded in doing.

I disagree about the cloak and dagger aspect. How is trying to change the fact that people are senselessly killed by cartel members not an initial compelling premise an interesting one to explore? It looks at all the major aspects of the "war on drugs", exposes the viewer to them (even if it's a bit sensationalized, the violence isn't) and doesn't really preach any sort of right or wrong. It just makes an argument and allows the viewer to make their own interpretation. That's why it's such a successful film in my eyes.

The entire film itself is an argument for the legalization of drugs.
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>>64476600
For some reason I doubt you've read them.
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>>64476571
Yes which is why I wrote "as the black guy suggests"

She was certainly strongly considering it
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>>64475564
when did rey 'shove it in your face that she is female'

i dont remember anything like that ever happening, she just didnt want to sweaty stranger touching her
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>>64476567

This. Also Villeneuve actually tries to do good movies instead of selling toys to autists
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>>64476645
are you literally autistic enough to get this triggered by unfollowed character suggestion
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>>64476639
>butting in
rude

>>64476600
yeah I'm not a good reader, I've been on the same book for months.
It's just so much easier to let the media do the work, right?
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>>64476516
What the CIA were doing was illegal. There are strict rules about what you can and can't do in your own and foreign territories, and they were breaking those rules at every turn. This is why she was involved to begin with, and why they forced her to sign that paper saying that everything they did was actually legal.

Her and black guy are by-the-book agents, they believe in procedure and law, and everything the CIA was doing broke their laws; that made them bad guys.

The whole movie is about morality and legality. Her and black guy believed the line should not be crossed at any time, thus if the CIA are crossing that line, they must be the bad guys.
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>>64476346
You're completely missing the point of Kate's character then. She's established as being a by the book, respect the law etc. character. She doesn't believe in bending the rules. She's rigid in her morals at the beginning of the film. She's the black and white version of right and wrong. There aren't really any gray areas with her.
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>>64476387
Does that mean that every anime or videogame where women are equally or more capable than men are feminist propaganda?
Put they always thaught me that Japan is misoginist. Something doesn't add up.
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>>64475780
Cultural marxism is a nonsensical term
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>>64476445
> posts /v/ post
> about gamergate

I'll look the other way this time but next time you're gonna get it
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>>64476639
You're right. I prefer to read textbooks.
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>>64476554
Even more irony.
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>>64475564
>image.jpg
FUCK OFF MOBILE KIDDO
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>>64476656
Shh, don't let things like facts get in the way of OP pushing their agenda.
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>>64476708
>>64476709
I see, thanks guys
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>>64476730
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>you will never be this triggered over a fictional character
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>>64476792

lol wat
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>>64476785
Would I be correct to assume you live somewhere where no-one is really strictly follows the word of law, or where laws are fairly loose to begin with?
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>>64476744
Textbooks and fiction are of course better than "non-fiction" books written by people with some agenda or journalists.
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I thought the girl from The Man in the High Castle miniseries was a good strong female character
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>>64476626
>How is trying to change the fact that people are senselessly killed by cartel members not an initial compelling premise an interesting one to explore?
>The entire film itself is an argument for the legalization of drugs.
Both of these are tired subjects. Maybe I'm ust burned out on all this drug war in Mexico stuff but I feel like Sicario was about 5 years too late.
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>>64476826
Well, Social Science textbooks tend to be shit. For example, Social Psychology has a whole chapter about "stereotypes" and "discrimination", even though the least accurate stereotype is more accurate than the average sociopsychological hypothesis, and stereotypes tend to be more accurate overall.
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>>64476822
You'd be completely wrong
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>>64476892
Then I'm afraid I have to ask that the next time you watch a film you actually pay some fucking attention to it.
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>>64476863
>>64476863
Maybe i just havent watched enough of those movies but in the 5 years i cant think of any films that executed their premise as well as Sicario did. Care to elaborate on which films you're talking about? Im curious.
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>>64476933
Don't you ever reply to me again
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I'll prop one for everybody:

If Rey was a man, and her character path was the same, would people still be bitching?
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>>64476980

No, but people will say otherwise
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>believing in cultural marxism unironically
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>>64476980
most likely not
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>>64476980
No. Sadly /tv/ is full of misogynistic manbabies. I blame /v/ for this.
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>>64476792
>this shit

Every normal person is an anti-SJW or plain doesn't give a fuck. Only /pol/tards and some fucking redditors take it to the extreme tho. I assume you are in one of those categories anon
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>>64476980
_no
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>>64476093
>white knighting on /tv/
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>>64476730
>I'll look the other way this time but next time you're gonna get it
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread in question, cuck.
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>>64476980
Yes. The people bitching about the people currently bitching would be bitching about the fact there isn't a female main character. IT'S 2016! Then everyone who is currently bitching would be bitching about the people who would be bitching were she a man.

People like to complain on the internet and will find any reason to. If you don't like it, stop looking at it.
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How long until the feminist dyke janitor deletes this thread?
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>>64475892
I refuse to believe this is real. I hope this is false flagging
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>>64477066
did I give you permission to reply to me? sit your ass down you fucking dope.
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>>64476980

Surely! We are not hypocrites!
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>>64475564
This is literally bizzaro-tumblr. You realize that right?
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>>64477039
>misogynistic
Yes, we're totally going to listen to your post now.
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>>64476980
No. The worse thing is you can't have any film discussion, shit, even maymays, without these spergs fagging it up with their retarded shit no one should care about. /tv/, while always being shit, is now dead too. We don't even have maymays anymore, and those that pop up are utter fucking shit.
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>>64477074
This not /v/, yet.
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>>64477039
Not even /v/ spergs about female characters this much.
I blame /pol/
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>>64476954
Savages, Elite Squad, The Bridge (US version), Narcos, Traffic,
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>>64477072

Do people complain about Indiana Jones or hold him in high regard?
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>>64477099
oh no he already used the comic, how is he to slam-dunk his reply to you?
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>>64477097
>mfw Tom Cruise was actually holding onto a flying plane for that scene
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>>64477039
>misogynistic
>using batshit insane feminist terms unironically
tumblr pls go
nobody cares
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>>64476980
People tend to bitch at poorly acted, poorly written characters. Vagina or not.

So my answer is yes.
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>>64476656

That scene had 3 "I don't need you to hold my hand" statements, followed by her handily beating up 3 thugs as Finn stops in his tracks realizing he doesn't need to help her at all

it was clearly trying to give off the impression of "yeah, she's a cute girl, but she also kicks ass XPP"
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>>64477094
>did I give you permission to reply to me? sit your ass down you fucking dope.
Shut up Cuck.
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>>64477101
still looks better than most photos of him
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>>64476980
I don't think you could have the same character as a man and still have the reasons's for his/her character being that way there.
They built her first and foremost as a strong woman, if the character was a male then there wouldn't be the same kind of drive to make them so flawless I think, it's just be bad writing.
It's ironic. In an attempt to create good female characters they've just made more prominent bad ones, just instead of them being one stereotype they're another.
It's sad.
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>>64477161
He's on my lynching wishlist. Been there for a loooong time in fact.
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>>64477097
>Sir, Ethan Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny
Nearly cracked up in the theater.
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>>64476980

Yes, I think so. Given all of the factors in context.

The "Rey" character just sticks out and doesn't make a lot of sense.
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>>64477101
Not even him, but when every /v/edditor bitches and moans about the wymynz in the film, how would you call it? I mean honestly m9, this is about one thing and one thing only: her pussy.
Just like when /pol/tards started fagging it up with their "b-but joe boyanga is too ugly", which is funny considering how fucking gay it sounds.
We've come to a place where this betafags that wouldn't look you in the eye while shopping at a supermarket have managed to become even more beta, they are right now hiding behind weasel words and smoke and curtains, on 6-2chan. It would be funny if it didn't fuck this already shit board even worse.
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>>64477132
Some people complain about him. Some don't. Most stopped caring like ten years ago.

Is this going somewhere?
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>>64475892
>I've spent my life doing my best to be feminine
>why aren't straight women attracted to me?
This has to be fake.
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>>64477236
>all of the "SJW"/gender/race crap bledover from fucking /v/, because they have a hardon for such a thing.
>long-ass sperg post

could you be any more newfaggy

fuck off
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>>64477169
You sound triggered.
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>>64477227
>/v/edditor
Ah ye, the term made up by /r/SRS and tumblr crossposters who get triggered whenever anyone criticizes a women here

See:
>>64476792
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>>64477236

>They delete shit that should be deleted asap (cunny shit, shrek/just/bane [which took forever for them to get on too, the latter memes]), but some things take an awfully long time to delete, like /sp/ blacked threads.
>some things take an awfully long time to delete, like /sp/ blacked threads.
>he claims there isn't an SJW conspiracy
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>>64477276
>he doesn't recognize this pasta
Wow, embarrassing.
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>>64476954
To be fair, Traffic was a while ago and i thought it was more about the political and corporate side then the clandestine side.

I didnt like Savages and dont really see the similarities. Havent watched The Bridge or Narcos
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>>64477229
At the height of any criticisms for Indie did it come close to the volume Rey gets now?
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>>64477227
>angry feminist desperately trying to fit in this hard
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>>64477276
>>64477308
Its a retarded pasta m8s
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>>64477324
Only 4chan and similar sites criticize Rey. She's perfectly fine for a character from Star Wars.
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>>64476980
>people didnt bitch about Anakin

Its the same fucking scenario as the prequels only with a female character this time.
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>>64477293

It was cringeworthy my friend. Children's show-tier.
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>>64477355
>2013
Yup, sounds about right.

Please get raped or something thx.
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>>64477319
Meant for
>>64477130
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>>64477394
Fair enough, just chewing the fat here m8
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>>64477408
People bitched about Anakin because he was a shitty annoying little kid, not because of his proficency with the force.
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>>64477425

But it is pasta, you could look it up.
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>>64475564
NOTHING rey says or does even brings up her gender at all. shes just an adult who deosnt wan ther hand to be held
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>>64477469
That was part of it. Clearly you arent old enough to remember the constant bitching about Anakin being OPed and boring. People hated his character for the same reason people hate Rey.
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>>64477469
>People bitched about Anakin because he was a shitty annoying little kid, not because of his proficency with the force.

Of course, nigger. After all, Analkin was Space Jesus.

What's Rey excuse?
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>>64476792
>I don't have an actual argument so I'll use a irrelevant comic, that'll show him
Fuck off
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>>64477324
No. Get to your shitty fucking point so I can refute it and go masturbate.

In fact I'll save time. You're going to say that people bitching about Rey but not bitching about Indiana Jones proves that /tv/ is sexist. This is a stupid thing to say.

Indiana Jones is a shit example because /tv/ didn't exist during its era, and because Indiana Jones is clearly a tongue-in-cheek adventure hero who fits in with his own ridiculous universe. Further than this Indiana Jones never was or will be as big as Star Wars is.

Let's instead compare Rey to Anakin in the prequels. And the answer there is yes, the amount of hatred received is about the same. Now stop talking and suck me off.
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>>64477495

Why even put the bit about him continuously grabbing her hand in?

You guys keep justifying it from a movie perspective without thinking about why the writers would ever include that kind of shit in the first place.
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>>64477301
Nice way to understand my point you faggot, you could fill an entire barn with all the strawmen you just used.
I'll try to make it so clear even an underaged low-IQ beta ass-burgered ridden hemophiliac like you understands:
I hate both you and the SJWs. You are exactly, and I do mean exactly, like commies and nazis. You use the same tactics, have the exact same hivemind, spout the same retarded faggot shit, and are basically 2 sides of the same shitcoin.
Meanwhile everyone else stares in disbelief and lets you puke your cancerous bile everywhere, ruining any kind of pertinent discussion, because you can only see the world through your political lens. You can't enjoy anything in this world, and I'd actually feel sorry for all of you, only if you weren't such fucking imbeciles. Yes, both you and SJWs. Any argument I could make about one, I could make about the other.
I know you understood this you ultimate shitstain on your mother's pussy, and I know you'll strawman it to fuck and back. But that tiny autism-ridden brain of yours will understand a little more, even if you try not letting it, that you are an SJW in a mirror,

Now fuck off
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>>64475630
"Ass like a 10 year old boy"
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>>64477511
This is Star Wars. I'm sure she's another chosen one or something. It's obvious that she's not normal.
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>>64477538
You fuck off you triggered landwhale.

Also shave those legs for god's sake.
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>>64477538
maybe you should cry some more cuck
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>>64477236
>memes are bad
>baneposting is bad
>/sp/ mods are good
>tumblr is good and should post here

>claims to be the majority opinion on /tv/

kek
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>>64477574
stale boring pasta
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>>64477581
>It's obvious that she's not normal.

The only thing obvious about Rey is that she's a Mary Sue born out of the fear of offending SJWs.

Although to be fair all of the new characters are terrible.
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>>64477346
The butthurt is real. Yes, I do hate you more than feminazis, because they don't spill over and shit up my board. They stay in their little circlejerk of pink hair and swamp-like smelly pussy and don't derail a movie discussion on this board with their retarded ideology. You do.
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>>64477589
you could literally make a picture that is the exact same thing switched around and name it "conservative 'logic' "
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>>64477558
To estabilish that she's rude and kind of antisocial because of her upbringing.
The grrrrlll power shit only exist in your head.
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>>64477589
That picture makes no fucking sense. Nobody is giving Muslims bombs or 747s. Guns kill people without ideology fuckwit
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>>64477631
>pasta

Are you retarded?
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>>64477638
I think you don't understand modern world and modern film industry. Disney is pretty liberal and I'm sure they simply wanted a strong female main character.

>Mary Sue
So is Luke and Anakin.
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>>64477586
>>64477589
>if you don't hate women and non-whites, you're a tumblr SJW
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>>64477638
So her being "not normal" is an excuse for writing a poor character? The majority of the people on this site are "not normal" so they should be just as competent as Rey at everything instantly then right?
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>>64477589
Goes both ways. Both sides are retarded. Sure one might be more retarded than the other, but they're still both retards.
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>>64477688
>Are you retarded?
stale boring pasta
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>>64477558
>Why even put the bit about him continuously grabbing her hand in?
to have the characters interact with each other, to show finn naturally cares about his fellows though having grown up as storm trooper and that rey grew up to be independent and tries to manage on her own, because she was left behind
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>>64477324
Are trying to imply that Indiana Jones is a Mary Sue?

Because he gets beat up in every single movie.

Rey is the only character in this movie that gets to end without a scratch on her.

Even Poe, the pilot, somehow gets some wounds on him.

Rey is a shitty charcter and a Mary Sue.
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>>64477682
>guns kill people without ideology

So you're saying its the guns fault and not the shooter's? Excellent logical fallacy you got there
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>>64475628
>bad script
I'm guessing you didn't see the dinner scene.
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>>64477556

People hate Anakin because he's whiney and annoying, not because he's a gary stu. So the amount of hatred, and what that hatred is specifically geared towards are rather different.

And also implying Star Wars isn't a ridiculous universe is silly and stupid.

lol why are you so mad chap?
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>>64477706
She's a powerful force user, not a manchild posting on 4chan.
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>>64477723
Yeah, board is dead. Fucking off to /sp/ at least you can have memes and even pertinent discussion there. Fucking fags.
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>>64477689
>Disney is pretty liberal and I'm sure they simply wanted a strong female main character.

strong female main character =/= mary sue

Watch some more movies nigger.

>So is Luke and Anakin.

Luke is not a mary sue and fuck anakin.
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>>64477752
With no explanation on how she was able to use it thanks to the shit writing
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>>64477656
>I'm really fitting in guys
kek

>because they don't spill over and shit up my board.
It's not your board and never was
>>/tumblr/
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>I hate women because I never had the balls to ask out my crush in high school: the thread
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>>64477691
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>>64477676

Except they don't do that at all for the rest of the movie. Funnily enough, they make everyone love her and try to suck her dick, including the notoriously surly Han Solo.
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>>64477732

Its the fault of the government making them so easily available to people with mental issues.
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>>64477781
>no explanation on how she was able to use it
litereally trial and error as well as learning by doing. also it's not a stand alone movie and many suspect she has had force training before
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>>64477779
>Luke is not a mary sue
>destroyed Death Star without any force training
>not a mary sue
What a normal and flawed character.
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>>64477725

>to have the characters interact with each other

so.... every scene almost

They didn't need to have him grab her hand 3 times and have her pull a Ms. Independent line. A simple "let's go" would have sufficed.

It was painfully obvious what they were trying to convey.
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>>64477786
>I seriously need to go back to tumblr: the post
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>>64476980
Of course. Because that would make literally all the 4 new lead roles faggots.

Poe and Kylo already are. Negro trying to hold maleRey's hand all the time and maleRey giving him a kiss on his forehead at the end would just be too fucking much!
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>>64477828
All you're doing is filling in the blanks left by shit writing, you're literally interpreting it how you want it to, thanks to SHIT WRITING

>>64477808
So every other mentally stable and responsible gun owner should be treated as a possible hostile threat? Nice Orwellian way of thinking
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>>64477786
Yeah. So?
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>>64477743
If English is your native language I strongly suggest you kill yourself because your understanding of it is fucking appalling.
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>>64477846
>Use the force Luke

Obi Wan ghost helped him.

Also Vader was going to kill him if Han didn't show up at the last minute to save his ass.

Did you even watch ANH or are you just shitposting?
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>>64477752
Sorry, where is it explained that she is a powerful force user in the film? Does her touching Luke's lightsaber automatically make her a powerful force user? Are powerful force user's instantly able to use all abilities of the force even though canon has established it as taking years and years of practice to master? Are powerful force users able to have no ounce or shred of evidence that they are force users before touching an artifact that instantly grants them the ability to do everything? Are powerful force users able to close their eyes and go super sayien even though they only found out about the force 24 hours ago?
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>>64477862
>They didn't need to have him grab her hand 3 times and have her pull a Ms. Independent line. A simple "let's go" would have sufficed.

Does being vicariously rejected through a monkey faced nigger in a Star Wars movie bother you that much, dear?
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>>64477975

yeah of course that's exactly what I'm trying to relay to you
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>>64477975
>Tumblr pretending to be racist to try and fit in
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>>64477923
It's time to go back to reddit FOR YOU big guy
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>>64477828
Yeah and all of those theories say you have to buy that she started force training when she was four, had maybe at most a year of training and is already able to do every single thing even though she doesn't remember learning any of it. Yeah, that makes sense.
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>>64477905
>you're literally interpreting
she tried it a few times and failed until it worked. that is fucking trial and error there is no interpretation what so ever, how would you have wanted this scene to be like?

"oh gee as I stated earlier iI have heard of the Jedi before, also I have heard of their so called mind tricks. since I have felt a strange force flowing through me, I suspect I might be able to use this force. Now I will proceed to do one of those jedi mind tricks. from what I have heard you have to tell a weakminded person like a loyal stormtrooper what he or she has to do and if the mind trick was successful, he will do as I said. darn it did not work, maybe I have to try again differently. oh man, it didnt work again, I'll try one last time. nice! I have learned how to do a jedi mind trick via trial and error!"
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>>64477967
>Sorry, where is it explained that she is a powerful force user in the film?
Episode VIII will be a Star Wars/Marvel crossover. It turns out that Rey is actually an X-[wo]man who had her memories wiped by Professor X and she was sent into space by the government because she was too powerful.
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>>64477905

I said nothing about mentally stable people owning guns, just that mentally unstable people should probably have a harder time getting guns
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>>64477954
>Obi Wan ghost helped him
No. He just said that Luke should use the force. Again, without any training.
>Also Vader was going to kill him
And he didn't do this. In fact, he didn't even scratch him.
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>>64477975
>,dear
What are you, a faggalo?
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>>64477929
Fucking make me faggot I'm coming off of a 17 hour shift what have you been doing all day?
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>>64478087
A grandma
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>>64478072
So even though Luke required YEARS of training to get Luke to even wiggle the light saber out of the snow in Hoth, she can do almost everything he could by the time RTJ started because why? Answer me that tumblrina
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>>64478080
>Again, without any training.

He did have some training you dumb fucking nigger. Pic related.

>he didn't even scratch him.

Because Han Solo saved him.

Once again did you even watch ANH?
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>>64478078
Except that the liberal fallacy ifnthe "gun nut" points to the opposite of what you're trying to say, is this some sort of liberal taqqiya?
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>"Maybe I'll get laid if I defend Rey as a good character"

God all the male feminists in this thread are pathetic lol
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>>64478041
>>64478027
I don't understand why it's bad that she told him to stop holding her hand. Men are free to play the tough guy in movies and they don't get shit for it, but a woman tells some guy to chill with the kino and she's suddenly a pariah because she's not demure enough? I didn't like the new Star Wars film, or Rey as a character, but that was not a problem for me.
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>>64478163
The blindfolding training was good foreshadowing too for the final Death Star run.
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>>64478135
>she can do almost everything he could by the time RTJ started
she can do close to nothing, she let the saber come flying at her once and tricked a stormtroper after three tries.

the better question is why luke had such a hard time getting his light saber after we have learned that size does not matter. could have been ebcasue he was in a coma and hanging upside dwn, which would amke thsoe two situations completely uncomparable
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Are there any female astro-droids in SW?
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>>64478190
>That entire post.

What the fuck are you even doing here?

Fuck off back to the hellhole you crawled from you dumb fucking cunt.
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>>64478163
>some training
Yes, three minutes.
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>>64478246
C-3PO
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>>64478190

I read the criticisms on here before TFA but decided to suspend my judgement and give her a chance

that first 10 minutes or so of the movie killed it and it was a groanfest thereafter

unimaginably cliche way to introduce a female power fantasy

>telling a stupid dumb old man to frig off and let me handle it

not once, twice, but thrice

utterly unnecessary
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>>64475564
We need to get you a new bra woman
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>>64478180
kek want to try that post again m8
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>>64476381
also the only reason to watch devil wears prada
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>>64478279
>Yes, three minutes.

More than Rey ever did.
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>>64478235
Right, so because she's a woman, she can get it quicker than men, nice propoganda
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>>64478298
I can't tell if you're saying that the opening 10 minutes was bad or not? I though the opening thing and then Rey introduction scene were two of the best scenes in the film and then it goes all downhill from there which is an absolute shame.
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>>64478246
>females
>working as mechanics
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>>64477097
well he did drown and have to be saved & the chikc freed him from the interrogation he didn't do it himself, and actually requires help from his team instead of mary sueing his way out of everything
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>>64478393
are you suffering from paranoia? my post has litereally nothing to do with your reply and I didnt mention genders once
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>>64478397

Everything after Finn arrives and her inexplicable "hear me roar" shit starts up
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>she can do close to nothing, she let the saber come flying at her once and tricked a stormtroper after three tries.
This is some hardcore denial here. She's literally competent at flying the millenium falcon after 20 seconds. It took her 2 tries to "trick" the ST

>the better question is why luke had such a hard time getting his light saber after we have learned that size does not matter. could have been ebcasue he was in a coma and hanging upside dwn, which would amke thsoe two situations completely uncomparable
This doesn't even make sense.
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>>64478300
Wot?
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>>64475628
>>64475915
Fuck off faggot
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>>64477097

If you make this kind of false equivalency you shouldn't be allowed to keep breathing

these movies are predicated upon their characters being total badasses, Star Wars has never been like that and it's a character, team based space opera

No one is complaining about Tomb Raider
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>>64478466
I'm talking about before Finn shows up. Like the first 3 minutes of her character being introduced were great and then it turns into a propoganda shitfest.
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>>64478440
Bullshit, you tried to downplay her abilities then attack Luke, your taqqiya won't work here
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>ITT: sexist nerds analyze a cartoon
I don't know what's more pathetic, the popularity of Star Wars or people complaining about mary sues in a fairy tale.
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>>64478508
Or Uncharted.
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>>64478527
I think what's more pathetic is your third or fourth attempt at shitposting.
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>>64478527
Just keep brushing off the subliminal propaganda you faggot leftists keep trying to shove down people's throats as "its just a movie"
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>>64478584
>subliminal propaganda
*tips tinfoil fedora*
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>>64478584
Just don't watch the movie if you don't like it?
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>>64478584
>subliminal propaganda
You can say this about virtually every film.
>>
This is liek the first star wars related thread in a week or two that hasn't bored me. Thanks guys. Ia agree that Blunt's character was much more genuine and affecting than Daisy's, but SIcario is a much, much better movie than TFA, even after you account for the vastly different goals each one had.
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>>64475892
god that is too funny
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>>64477578
How the fuck would you know that?
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>>64476093
this is going to be you in a few years
>>64475892
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>>64477097
I hated that movie so much
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>>64478636
I won't as long as Barton Fink is directing

>>64478620
>>64478643
OK, maybe subliminal was the wrong description, but tell me how it isn't blatant propaganda?
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>>64477097
best MI movie though. at least there weren't any stupid fucking doves out of nowhere.

still, fucking masks, man. Laziest handwaving in cinema.
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>>64475564
Some nigger she just met kept holding her hand. Wouldn't you tell him to stop?
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>>64478795
You can call everything blatant propaganda. It's just a theme in the film.
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>>64476980
of course.
/tv/ also bitches about small flaws in good movies even if they have male character.
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>>64477671
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>>64475892
This is what's happening right now to every single poster in this thread defending Rey.
Kek

You know how you get laid. You treat women like actual human beings and you don't ignore the biological and psychological differences between men and women.
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>>64478878
>/tv/
>good movies
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>>64478770
that's cause you don't like fun. That was the best MI movie yet and actually had a respectable female lead opposite Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise)
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>>64475630
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>>64478853
I would tell tumblr to stop pretending to be racist to defend their mary sue.
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>>64478864
>just a theme

So it is blatant propaganda, thanks
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>>64478127
Enjoying my life.
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>>64479004
>pretending

If it ain't a white women they couldn't give a shit less
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>tfw you're gay and don't have to deal with feminist whores

Feels extremely amazing.

You all must be envious.
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>>64479133
do you think /tv/ gets a lot of tail?
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>>64479133
On the contrary.

I feel sorry for the gays. The gays have been through some shit in their time but they've fought for their rights and fought hard. And now thanks to 'feminism' and social justice (it's all pretty much the same shit nowadays) gay rights means transniggerfurrysexual rights, and it isn't the gay community, it's the lesbian gay bisexual transexual pansexual potsexual multigender hyper fag community.

These people may be constantly trying to fuck with something I like, which can be annoying, but they managed to tarnish your entire identity as their opening move.
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>>64476600
Jonathan Haidt's book was a NY Times best seller. Hardly politically incorrect, like Taylor's book.
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>>64479133

I might envy you but I find anal sex disgusting so that shit's not gonna fly with me.
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>>64479025
What is the propaganda promoting? And specifically what leftist ideals?
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>>64479314
>Independent Womyn don't need no man
>Womyn are just as good, if not better, than man
>white men are pathetic
>interracial relationships are the future
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>>64477671
>>64477722
Something like 60% of Muslims the world over support Sharia law over secular law. 60% of gun owners don't think support public shootings.
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>>64479362

You got all that from Star Wars?
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>>64479439
You didn't?
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>>64479133
i was envious fir a second but then i remembered you guys have to fuck guys in the ass
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>>64476980
Yes. She was objectively a shit character. I prefer heroines because I am a hopeless weeb at heart.
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>>64479488
No because im not a fucking retarded autist
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>>64480297
Nah, you're just a stupid sheep who agrees with anything and everything that comes out of Bill Maher's and Trevor Noah's filthy Nigger mouth
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>>64475564
Well The one is an R rated, brutal crime film, and the other is a pg13 Disney flick. the fuck did you expect?
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