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Since Vader is cool and I wish they made him look more badass in the movies
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>>64341343
anyone?
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To be quite honest i think Kylo's design is cooler. Vader is a product of it's times
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Vader is my favorite villain design of all time. That fucker is menacing in the weirdest way.
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>>64341564
>Vader is a product of it's times
>Vader is a product of it is times
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>>64341343
He looks like a homoerotic anime character
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>Vader was going to get a new suit
>project was cancelled because Shiev was worried about the budget
>Kylo finds that out and wants the suit
>literally Vader 2.0

POTTERY
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>>64341623
They're is nothing wrong with that.
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>>64341624
no u
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>>64341564
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>>64341624
He really does. Vader doesn't need lame-ass skintight muscle clothes to be menacing.
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>>64341354
if star wars was created in the present, i think this is what he'd look like.
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>>64341343
I like this, but it's not Vader. Looks like something a Vader cult or something would wear.

>>64341732
Too Halo, but I dig that lightsaber. Wish you'd see more Jedi/Sith use the Force to control their saber...the Yoda Dooku fight could have used Yoda using the force to control his saber, it would have been a lot more visually interesting.
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>>64341343
cool, but needs more cape
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>>64341372
>>64341391
>>64341732
shit
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>>64341732
would a saber that this actually be viable? Pic not related.
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>>64341343
so... giving him a tiny head and making him pose like an animu character?
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>>64341914
thanks for reminding me there's an asscreed movie coming
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all of these are horrendous and demonstrate that millennials are hack artists whose primary source of inspiration seems to be video games made in the last ten years
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>>64341649
I think he's more asking what the hell you're on about.
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>>64341649
there is
>>64341940
he's not
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>>64341354
>darth vader acquires full set of daedric armor.jpg
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>>64341873

This one's decent without the dog collar imo
>>64341354
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Ralph McQuarrie concept art Vader is best Vader.
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>>64341984
No it's shit I already told you jeez
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>>64341732

>Darth Iron Man
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>>64341970
your cant spell
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>>64341564

his design is iconic
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>>64341997
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>>64342025
can to
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>>64342049
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>>64342049
that is one lame piece of shit
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>>64342068

I'm glad they went with a more traditional mask design, it is too cartoonish
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>>64342068
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>>64341997
>That sick gear Luke is wearing
Why the hell didn't we get this in any of the films?
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>>64342116
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>>64342126

this I was going to say was more of the let down but I guess they wanted more of a contrast
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>>64342068

I wanna say it's a little more reminiscent of a samurai mask, here.
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>>64342126
I have no idiea, but most likely due to budget reason and special effect difficulties tied to things like lightsabers being a Stormtrooper issue weapon, Zero-G battles and Vader being blown out an airlock but able to survive in space due to his suit.
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>>64341997
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>>64342068
He looks like a rat face
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>>64342228
>went to school for fine art
>is now creating concept and fan art shit
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He did look cool though.
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>>64342360
what is this ludovico's technique shit?
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>>64341925
It's going to be just like the games.

Mediocre for the first two hours, then turns into absolute shit and trannies start appearing out of nowhere by the end
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>>64342269
God, I hate Digital Painting and the aesthetic standards that dominate both video games and the film production of the day.
I miss the days of the more traditional illustration methods and the Airbrush, meant that your conceptual designer was more likely to have actual aesthetic talent to go with his skills, because it was harder to get things done which meant the artist needed more skill and training to get where he was at.
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>>64342447
Let's post concept art we like
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>>64342428

The last Ass Creed game I played was 3 (I played every other one up to that point) and I've gotta admit I don't remember any trannies.

Do they literally appear right after 3?
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>>64342447
>God, I hate Digital Painting

Me too, there's something disgustingly smooth about it
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>>64341354
looks like normal Vader but he just smelled a fucking rank fart desu
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>>64342593
>death star on his head
bravo
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>>64342593
The chest armor reminds me of a xenomorph
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>>64342574
not him but after 3 came 4 (pretty innovative stuff) and 4 was a sick pirate simulator and the protag told the assassins to shove it and just went about his own stuff
but then came Unity and Syndicate and now AC is SJW garbage
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>those storm retainers though.
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>>64342602
Yeah. It also never seems to capture light in a satisfying, non artificial way and illustrators using the technique almost always end up overdesigning, most likely as a way to compensate for the lack of the tangible feel of different pressured brush strokes and the way it can shape the style and mood of something done with more traditional methods.
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>>64342574
4 had a woman impersonating a man (though to be fair, she was a pirate and would have had the shit raped out of her otherwise)

The next two were so abysmal I didn't even bother, but like >>64342686 said, it's now SJW trash since Unity.

Syndicate goes full tranny from what I understand.
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>>64342049
mask looks so much better.
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>>64342098
Its just the angry eyes that kills it, other than that the design, especially the ventilator which on the used design is clumsy, is superior.
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>>64342113
Halo 4 tier tacticool trash
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>>64342047
But the suit is dumb.
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>>64343562

I would agree, even the boxy-regulator but at times the simplistic design works really well, maybe make the regularator box smaller?
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>>64341354
This looks pretty good.
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>>64342447
There's nothing inherently wrong with digital, it's just that snake oil salesmen like Feng Zhu and Maciej Kuciara have taught a generation of up-and-coming illustrators to take shortcuts, collage photos, rely on 3D as a crutch, etc right out the gate instead of learning the fundamentals THEN learning fancy tricks to speed up a workflow.
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>>64341564
I think Kylo's design is cool as well. It's just a shame he'll be taking his mask of every 5 seconds in the movies, because I think the hooded armour look really works.
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>>64342593
That light saber sharpener bottom right. I'm lolling my azz ov
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>>64342939
Oh, Anne Bonny and Mary Read are historical figures, every female pirate ever in film are exaggerated versions of them.
They were successful because they both used to fuck Calico Jack, which also saved there lives because they were both pregnant when they were arrested.
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>>64342126
I have a feeling that Luke would have worn this in cloud city if Hamill didn't learn to sword fight in time for Episode V. In one of his interviews he talked about how that was hard because they could put a professional fencer in the Vader suit but he obviously also had to hold his own.
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Most of those look way too edgy
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>>64343645
>that panda with big tits

hello boner
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>>64341343

They call me MAX
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>>64343439
Mecha Boba Fet-San looks pretty neat though
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>>64341919
and muscles, don't forget muscles as >>64341919 says
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>>64343686
>That light saber sharpener
Do you mean his wakizashi? it's the small companion sword that samurai carry along with their katana. mainly for ceremonial purposes, thus his stance.
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>>64343700
That's surprisingly decent, it might even be the best in the thread
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>>64342602
>>64342743
Really digital painting is just a tool. It's more about the changing aesthetic standards and what is considered fashionable these days versus decades ago. When you're pining for the old, unwieldy physical techniques of making art (which any actual artist who has tried both traditional and digital would say are just frustrating and slow) what you're really nostalgic for is the retro style of these old artists. Nothing wrong with that of course, I like that retro shit too. Sadly, a majority of people would just think it looks old and bad now.
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>>64343700
This could be some special imperial officer. Looks better than Captain Phasma 2bh
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>>64341343
Shit
>>64341354
Good
>>64341372
Change the shoulders and I could dig it
>>64341391
Worst thing I've ever seen in my life
>>64341732
What the fuck is this Halo? 0/10 dogshit
>>64341997
Ok
>>64342049
Looks like a big pile of dogshit and vomit. 0.
>>64342068
Ok I changed my mind about McQuarrie now this is utter shit.
>>64342113
Disgusting.
>>64342116
Vomit inducing shit.
>>64342137
Helmet fucking sucks.
>>64342228
Fuck you I kind of like this.
>>64342269
No
>>64342310
I can't believe you actually posted this horseshit.
>>64342360
No
>>64342593
Once again, fucking retarded and the person who thought of this should kill themselves.
>>64342743
God-Tier and superior to star wars in every way imaginable.
>>64343700
Almost but this too is shit.
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>>64342116
>that nose
can you put a lightbulb in it or what? Mickey mouse nose?
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>>64343606
Honestly, I think the main problem I have with it is the stripy shoulder armour. If it was darker or maybe split into pauldron-chestplate-pauldron sections I think it would be fine
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>>64343878
NEEDS MORE POUCHES!!! THERE'S NOT ENOUGH POUCHES!!! MORE POUCHES!!!
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>>64343700
THIS should have been Kylo Ren's design.
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>>64343980

I could go for that but they tried to modernize his look a little more in prequels and OT martyrs want what they exactly saw originally and nothing else.

I can understand purism but I think you're right the look could be slightly altered and made better
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>>64343959
Merge it with the clockwork cyborg quality Karl Ruprecht Kroenen has in Hellboy, and we're well on our way designing a pulp WW2 version of Star Wars that will never be made.
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>>64342390

Concept art is 98% of what any art student will be doing for most of their careers. The other 2% is private commissions. Maybe some personal work that isn't even statistically significant.
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>>64343878
typo, i mean as >>64341624 said
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>>64344100
That would be mostly through if we're talking about artists going for careers mostly about making illustrations.

There are huge fields of visual design outside illustration however and these are what most art students will actually do (while lamenting not getting to actually draw as much as they would want).
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>>64343939
I would agree with you, but there has been little overall progress in the way digital concept art painting is conducted aesthetically in the last one and a half decade or so when it became the standard way to do things.
>>64343645
Has a point. Digital painting can look good and in theory it is just another medium for the artists to express themselves, it's just that most artists working today pale in comparison to what we had before, because this medium gives the artists that grow up with it too many shortcuts to remain shoddy and lazy and still get rewarded for it.
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>>64341391
Some samurai Vaders look kind of cool, but Vader's look was based on samurai armor in the first place, so it's ultimately lazy and redundant.
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OG Yoda.
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>>64341343
He already is enough of a menacing badass. The OP pic is not badass but more towards faggit. I mean just look at that tiny head, gross.
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>>64344055
Fuck that's actually a great idea. A clockwork imperial droid as a officer.
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>>64341391
Rice Vader
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>>64341635
actualy vader was offered a new and better suit on several ocasions, but he was afraid he won't survive the transfer from his shitty suit to a new suit.

so he learned to live with the shitty suit, upgraded it himself and adepted his fighting style to it.

sheev made the suit shit on purpose to make sure vader would never be strong enough to rebel, and to keep vader constantly pissed off.
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>>64343656
I really dig his design too. He shouldn't have taken off his mask at all imo.
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>>64344756
it's the same with the spider-man movies or most other movies with a masked hero or villain.
either the actor himself wants to show his face as much as possible or the studio's want it.
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>>64342113
>we are going for the quickscoper audience
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>>64342228

Cool design, but that's not Vader
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>>64342602
Yeah it should be less smooth more like sand, it's course and rough, and it gets everywhere.
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>>64344755
>all this dumb EU shit

There's nothing wrong with Vader's suit. He can move just as well as any normal human being inside it and still jumps and flips better than anyone but Luke in Empire and Jedi.
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>>64341391
>you know that character who's designed to emulate the samurai look except in a sci-fi setting?
>yeah I went and made him into a samurai. Aren't I so artistically talented?
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desu when Kylo had the hood down and you could see the Vader-shape of the helmet he looked just as good as Vader.

More samurai daek wizard than robot and that whole concept of going back to the fantasy style and being even more of a McQuarrie movie than the originals was JJ's best decision.
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>they made vaders suit shitty on purpose
>because sheev was concerned about budget

fucking lmao
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>>64344960
>>64345044
>you know that character who's designed to emulate a mix of a samurai and nazi stormtrooper except in a sci-fi setting?
>I took away the samurai influences and made him pure nazi. Aren't I so artistically talented?
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>>64341997
>>64342068
I think what they went with is much better than this, giving Vader a constantly angry face makes him cartoonish. His more neutral expression is much more imposing.
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>what Jedi could look like if they weren't made into desert monks
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>>64344407
So Mel Brooks, basically.
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>>64345044
To me the shape of his helmet looks more like a WW2 German helmet rather than Vaders.
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>>64345118
You've got to remember he was a very different character in the early drafts, the design reflects that. They would have actually had him laughing evilly and stuff.
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>>64345062
He spent the savings on a fuckhueg space station :)
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>>64345136
it's literally a schutzstaffel helmet with an added mask and retarded frowning grooves.
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>>64344960
To be fair, that's a toy. It's not made to improve or one-up the old design, it's made so you can physically own an "alternate" design. In that aspect it succeeds. But I'm a faggot toy collecter, so what do I know?
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>>64345253
The death star was probably cheap to make because he had an entire clone army with nobody to fight and a whole droid army with nobody to fight so he probably just melted down the droids and used the clones as free labor.
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>>64345315
Was it ever answered in the canon (old EU or otherwise) what actually happened to all the separatist droids after the war? You might think sheev would find a use for them other than just melting them for raw materials.
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>>64345122
see
>>64344500
And pic related.
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Palpatine was cheap and stupid, and it bit him in the ass across the board. TIE Fighters had no shields. Death Star was horribly designed. The Moffs were given command of the military despite them being an ineffective Germanic nobility, simply because they'd never get their shit together enough to wage a coup against Palpatine.
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>>64345044
>to be or not to be.jpg
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No love for Samurai Vader?
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>>64345122

>imperial knights.jpg

Fuck your legacy comics.
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>>64345506
This may be the best translation of Vader in the thread
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>>64345864
>>64345965
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>>64345864
>>64345896
>>64345926
>>64345965
Is there any word in the guides or books about if the Knights of Ren are still alive? Or did Luke kill them all and Kylo got away?
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>>64341343
>>64341354
>>64341372
>>64341391
>>64341732
kill yourself
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>>64345813
Literally the best itt
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>>64346086
Snoke says

>even you, Master of the Knights of Ren

So I assume they still exist.
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>>64345864
>what if Vader was a knight instead of a samurai.jpg
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I always liked the scalloped cape of batman/gatchamman

Some Vader design should have that
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>>64347285
Darth Vader was "The Dark Lord of the Sith" and they weren't around when he had that title.
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>>64341343
needs more woodoo hide Tbh fAm
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>>64345506
No because it's so redundant. Vader was already based on a samurai
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>>64345506
>knees a guy in the face
>leaves the imperial seal
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>>64344201
Reminder that Moebius fully-embraced digital and did everything on a Cintiq towards the end of his life.

http://youtu.be/x-YVtV7G-q4
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>>64348268
It lends itself well to Ligne Claire

discussion in this thread has been about more painterly, textured work
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>>64348343
I never felt like I had any problems getting a painted look, but I guess I'll leave that up to your judgment.

I do agree it gets relentlessly abused as a medium, though.
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>>64347285
I don't understand. How is Kylo the "master of the knights of rhen" when he is such a little bitch who has not finished his training? That just means that the rest of them are weaker than him, so stupid.
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I want this to be done
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>>64343700
Le nazis kewl xD xd amirite?

/pol/fags need to GTFO
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>>64343976
>i hate life
Edgy.
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>>64348861
Oh a fellow WIMP/TIDAL user! I thought everyone but me is using spotify.
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I betcha Vader smells terrible. I mean, how do you bathe in that suit? Can he take it off? Does he still sweat?
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>>64348966
Like feet wrapped in leathery, burnt bacon.
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>>64348766
now post young yaddle
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>>64343306
No it doesn't. Looks like a fucking morphsuit
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>>64348766
Looks like a fucking troll doll.
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>>64342228
>>64344890
BANE?
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>>64349186
Hands down that's the best Darth Vader. Nothing else compares.
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>>64349396
Pretty big guy.
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>>64349396
Homosex vader
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>>64343700
EPIC NAZIS
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>>64341354
>The Warcraft Movie
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>>64348806
It's pretty much a given that the nazis were cool.
They had taste in clothing.
They were highly educated.
They advanced science and engineering like no others managed at that time.

Yeah. They were cool. Cry more about it.
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>>64349396
DARTH BANE?
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God damn i hate alt-art. Everyone has this "unique" and "interesting" approach to beloved cultural institutions like Mario and Vader and they're all fucking annoying
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>>64349619
>If Darth Vader was a mobile game character
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>>64349540
Yeah, that's why they won the war and invented the atom bomb...oh, wait.
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This one is so epic.
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>>64349732
>and invented the atom bomb
They did invent the atom bomb. They were just not the first to construct it. They were the first to construct a nuclear reactor though.
>not even knowing basic history

And by American Vietnam standards, they did win the war. The casualties they inflicted outweighed their whole national population by a vast margin, let alone the army.

Bitch more bitch nigga.
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>>64349640
I agree, but sometimes there's one or two that's actually decent, but they're never from the digital art communities.
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>>64341354
really nice, more samurai inspired just like it supposed to be if star wars 4 didnt have no budget
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>>64349822
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>>64349793
>And by American Vietnam standards, they did win the war.
Wait, when did the vietnamese invade mainland america, rape every american woman and child, take control of their government and brainwash their entire culture to completely abhor their previous ideology more than anything else in the world?
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>>64349870
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>>64342126
budget constrains?
before star wars 4 was a huge hit they didnt have that much to work with
and once the design were established iot was too late to change it for the 2 sequels
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>>64349872
I think that's exactly what Americans were saying before they went to Vietnam for war in order to do the same.
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>>64349904
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>>64349942
your post makes no sense my man
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>>64349977
Your question doesn't either. I'm just going with the flow.
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>>64343739
No, its concept art from ANH, which over its creation, went through several major revisions.

One of which was that Laser Swords were a common weapon, and even storm troopers had them.
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>>64341391
D:
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>>64342447
you are retarded mate
that suit is a 3d model not a painting, and people still do more traditional stuff without supplementing them self with 3d renders in 99% of the cases
the fact you enjoy thsi particular style dosnt mean any other is worse, especially sicne you can find endless artists with a more realistic style online
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>>64350028
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>>64349763
too wc3 for me
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>>64348766
thats awesome
yoda actually looking young

wish teh prequels had yoda looking younger
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Is there any art of what an un-burnt Vader would look like during the OT era - ie. when he'd be in his 40's/50's?
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>>64350066
>no Chinese culture or history in a galaxy far far away
>samurai design

fuck I hate fanboys
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>>64350225
The end of return of the jed-oh-wait-that's-right
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>>64350272

>samurai
>chinese

fuck i hate ameriplebs
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>>64342068

>angry Vader

Sorry, would never work.
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>>64343656

The most wasted character in 15 years.

>keep him COOL
>keep him HIDDEN

They fucked up. As soon as he loses his cool, he stops being scary because a character without self-control can fuck up at any time.

I'm scared of nobody in the new movie, not even Snoke. Shame.
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>>64350962
>The most wasted character in 15 years.
Nah, that's Jango or Mace Dindu.
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>>64351051
>Nah, that's Jango or Mace Dindu.

>not Maced Dindu
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How Star Wars became a pussy:

>revenge of the Jedi becomes RETURN of the Jedi, because rightful revenge is seen as EVIL by hippie faggots and progressives

>kill the sith, you become a sith, literal psychorigid avoidance of justice through violence

>Vader's real face turns out to be pretty cute, all white, all pristine except for a few scars, not the horribly disfigured and aged face he should have had

>Chewbaccas turn to ewoks

>Solo doesn't die in REVENGE of the Jedi
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>>64349763
nice "lightsaber" pleb, you know it can be cut in half with no effort at all right?
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BIG
RED
DINGUS
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>>64341372
>showing his humanity

Missing the point entirely. Terrible.
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>>64341391
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>>64341564
>>64343562
>>64343606
I actually kinda agree with this.

Used to love Vader but honestly now, the more I look at his suit, the more I think it looks really stupid.

Nothing in his design really connotes evil, aside from the black and red. The helmet has elements that I like, namely the samurai and Nazi influences, but the face of the helmet just looks dumb.

Kylo Ren's mask/helmet really isn't much better either.
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>>64352556
>Nothing in his design really connotes evil,

Germany helmet style, blackness, can't see his human side, etc. Evil is retarded, it conveys better things.

Also, mostly, the fact that this suit is what keeps him alive: a mechanical contraption that keeps his reduced bit of meat living and functional.

Think of him this way: flesh imprisoned in a life-sustain apparatus.

That's what makes Vader great and frightening. Too bad they fucked up with Revenge of the Jedi and didn't show his burned disfigured real self.
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>>64342593
> CLANG!

Oh shit, Vader hit his helmet on another doorway.
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>>64352752
>>64352752
>Germany helmet style, blackness, can't see his human side, etc.
...alright.
>Also, mostly, the fact that this suit is what keeps him alive: a mechanical contraption that keeps his reduced bit of meat living and functional.
Meh.
>Think of him this way: flesh imprisoned in a life-sustain apparatus.
Thing is, the suit is awful at conveying that. I get that that's the entire point of it, but it leaves a bit too much to the imagination in that regard imo.
>Too bad they fucked up with Revenge of the Jedi and didn't show his burned disfigured real self.
The reveal was disappointing.

Eh...I'm just not a big fan of Vader. He's a worse Darkseid imo.
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>>64352939
>Thing is, the suit is awful at conveying that.

>literally hear heavy assisted breathing whenever Vader is on screen

Are you impaired?
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>>64342068

literally reddit the project
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>>64353103

Never fucking reply to me again unless you're going to contribute to the thread.
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>>64348766
It's like they used zimbawbe as a face model
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