I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY IF IT WEREN'T FOR YOU MEDDLING KIDS
>Theon betrays Rob
>Saves Sansa
>Forgiven
>Briene betrays Rob
>Saves Sansa
>Forgiven
>Littlefinger betrays Ned
>Saves Sansa 3 times and avenges her killing Joffrey and Lysa and defeating Ramsay
>KILL HIM
>>87000164
I'm sorry you had a hard-on for this faggot but he deserved it.
>>87000573
>>87000616
>anyone who isn't a contrarian autismo is reddit
t. redditor in disguise
>He never got to see Harrenhal
I rewatched the Hobbit films recently and found that I enjoyed them much more than I did upon my first watching. Maybe it was because, unlike my first time watching them, this time I wasn’t expecting anything from them. I went into the cinemas expecting a faithful adaption with the same tone I experienced when reading the book. Of course I didn’t expect them to get everything right and even welcomed a few creative liberties. The first Hobbit film was the best of the three. It was a light hearted, fun story with the character of Bilbo undergoing a classic hero’s arc. The tone was a little dark at times and I didn’t necessarily like the overt connections to the Lord of the Rings films which were repeated even more egregiously in the second and third films but it was fine at least.
Now before I go onto the second and third films, as there isn’t really too much to say about the first of the trilogy, I want to mention one of the cardinal sins of trilogies which the films manage to avoid. It is one which many trilogies make. Many film makers, when making a trilogy, have a tendency to make the first film an entirely self-enclosed story with the second and third much more closely linked. This has the effect of making many trilogies simply feel like 1 film followed by a two part sequel. The Hobbit trilogy, while rife with bloat, manages to avoid this with each film feeling closely connected to one another and Peter Jackson deserves credit for this if nothing else.
>>87000084
The second film is where the trilogy dips sharply. The series’ largely whimsical tone is switched to that of almost slapstick humor. The orcs feel of little threat as even villagers are shown to at least hold their own against them. The film feels tight and well balanced when the camera is on the dwarves, particularly Thorin who was portrayed with great screen presence. Outside of the dwarves, however, the film quickly loses its focus. Laketown’s dark and gritty aesthetic is yawn inducing as any charm the city could have is quickly lost to the same Snyder-esque lighting we’ve seen a dozen times before. The Legolas and Tauriel plotline feels largely redundant and Azog the Defiler simply feels hammy at best. Surprisingly, unlike many people, I didn’t necessarily mind the Fili/Tauriel romance. Was it unnecessary for the film? Yes. Did it detract from the main story? Yes it did. But, unlike much of the cast who simply felt like background characters it made me care for the two of them. The chief flaw with this film was simply a lack of direction. Jackson clearly struggled in portraying the parallel plotlines of the quest to kill Smaug and the imminent threat of Azog’s army and it shows.
>>87000126
Ironically the third film suffers from the same amount of bloat, only with laser focus. The entire film is simply one large battle. The audience is dragged from one skirmish to another. As one would expect this quickly loses its sense of suspense and the stakes are quickly lost upon the viewers who lose any concern for the characters upon watching just about every character in the film mow down orcs with little problem. The Thorin arc was the one saving grace of this film as it felt incredibly refreshing to see this character who we the audience have seen from the beginning soften, grow, harden, regress and then overcome this regression. Martin Freeman displays his acting chops towards the end of Thorin’s arc as the normally awkward Bilbo has by then grown into a more serious yet still empathetic young hobbit.
Now of course all of this makes it sound as though I’m simultaneously criticizing the film and leaving out the common criticisms of it which others have made. That’s not what I’m trying to get across here. What I’m trying to get across is that the films are not inherently bad and were not so much ruined, but hamstrung, by the sheer amount of grandstanding and bloat plaguing them. From a purely scriptwriting perspective the films, while bloated, follow the schematic of what makes a good film. I found that when I looked past the bloat, poor effects, schlockiness, hamminess and otherwise poor executive decisions and other mistakes made by time constraints what I saw was not an unenjoyable trilogy, simply an unpolished one.
So the point I’m trying to get across here isn’t that the Hobbit films are only enjoyable if you turn off your brain or that you shouldn’t have standards for films. What I’m saying is that sometimes you need to step back and simply ask yourself ‘Was I entertained while watching this?’ And for my own part I was.
It avoids the 2nd and 3rd film not being linked to the 1st problem because it was originally only 2 films. The studio forced Jackson to make it a trilogy, which is why it's bloated as fuck.
There's a fan-edit of all 3 films that condenses them down to the Book only stuff that removes most of the bloat and makes it pretty enjoyable.
Where the fuck is she? Edition
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Imagine being Eddie in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Sherilyn Fenn, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your bloated body and horrificly aged monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both Edward Louis Severson III and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Eddie and not only sit in that chair while Sherilyn Fenn flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and wrinkly skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, AUDREY DANCES LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the suberbs in Chicago. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her crumpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she imagined so hard in the previous months. And then the Lynch calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Eddie. You're not going to hang yourself like Chris over this. Just bear it. Hide your face under that stupid hat and bear it.
why is wilson so incompetent?
Holy fuck, this episode was great. Well worth leaving /tpg/ for a few days for
While I love Dougie, seeing Coop back as himself is wonderful too since I had almost forgotten how much I liked him in the first place
Do you think the real Diane was killed after the rape to make sure the construct wouldn't be exposed as fake?
Also, something that struck me while Eddie Vedder was playing: Out of Sand is about Coop becoming Coop again and never being able to be Dougie again. "I am who I am (Coop). Who I was (Dougie) I will never be again
>you have to tell him, he needs to know his real name is Rape Targaryen
Jesus christ Bran needs to get laid.
WHY?
WHY THE FUCK?
The problem with show Areo wasn't his race. It was that he didn't do anything then died like a bitch.
Fucking D&D.
>>87000034
>The problem with show Areo wasn't his race.
cuck
>>87000034
Fuck you DnD you piece of shits.
What did Josh mean by this?
Publicity stunt
YOUR HEART IS PURE
REJOICE
>>86999858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W56p3AZEFPY
pure shit
>>86999858
>can't actually bend the bars all the way
>fuck this
REJOOOOOICE
?? Explain. Now.
DON'T YOU
Fry originally believed that his brother Yancy stole his name and his lucky clover and became the first man on Mars.
It turns out that Yancy actually named his son after Phillip because he loved him that much, and it was his son who had the lucky clover and went to mars.
He was born Chuck but changed his name to Philip. It's pretty self-explanatory.
ITT: films you watched as a child and really should have.
>be me
>be 11
>know someone who worked at blockbusters
>watched nightmare on elm street and loved it, see this in the same aisle
>get home watch ~25 mins, turn it off in disgust
>don't sleep for a solid 2 weeks
>>86999802
Shouldn't have... Fuck
>the only character who you should actually root for
I like his mass immigration and anti wall policies
>>86999657
Just like Dany, brings over a bunch of foreign invaders and rides a dragon.
Was getting caught part of his plan?
of course
>>86999536
I SHABBOZE NOT
What was he even doing. Why was he hanging around Winterfell doing nothing but fucking around with two girls.
tell me you faggots have seen this shit. Is it one of the best movies ever? is it boring trite? what do you think? what was the significance of the dying grandmother? I feel like there is some sort of significance but I just can't put my finger on it.
Something about the image of ting ting being a young woman talking to her dying grandmother and how this movie is so focused on the similiarities that span generations in a family etc.
i have, it's very long but not unwatchable, it's not the second coming
>some sort of significance
old people die anon
>>86999576
What didn't you like about this film? Just curious. I don't think it's the second coming but I'd like to hear some criticism.
what's his end game?
does he even have one?
Revenge on the Children of the Forest, probably doesn't know they're dead and will attempt to kill everything from the North to Dorne to find any left.