>>868898 Agreed, it's very legit. I flew it to NYC once and enjoyed smoked salmon salad, free mini champagne, and all the movies a man could ever dream of in economy. In 1st class you probably get a condor egg omelet followed by a rub-and-tug.
flew with condor back from frankfurt to Halifax, Canada. ticket cost me 350$ one-way, felt pretty good. Condor was probably the best airline i've ever flown with in terms of comfort and free food/drinks, but you have to pay a huge fee if you wanna watch any good movies so I just slept.
>>868827 >Lufthansa Havent flewn with them on long haul, but on short haul, they are rather meh. But on the other hand, you dont need fancy shit for a 3 hour flight, so it's OK.
They still have some kinda old planes (so has emirates too) and do code sharing with air china, so if you are unlucky, your lufthansa flight to china might be an air china flight.
>>869027 >Condor >best airline Either there is a condor i dont know, or you have so far only know rian air and other shit carriers. While they are certainly OK (get your from A to B without killing you and/or raping your wallet) they were not exactly good when i flew with them. Fucking tourist bombers. Everyone dressed in shorts and sandals with socks. Bad food. Every fucking flight attendand was wishing me a nice holiday, even though i was the only guy in the whole fucking plane wearing a suit. And the goddamn clapping after the landing. German tourists are just as bad as bulgarians, in that regard.
>>869063 >Emirates They are probably getting drowned in money from their government, so they have great service at cheap prices. Lufthansa et al are really pissed at them (and Etihad, and Katar…). Their A380 fleet is really impressive. Flew from Munich to Bubai with them, and it was the first week of them operating that route with an A380 and the plane was an absolute attraction in munich. Everyone on the field stopped to take a picture of it. And then, landing in Dubai: "look, there is another A380! No, Two! Three! And there is another one parking. No, its actually ten. And there is one too!" Also, their food was really good.
>>868827 I've flown them a few times as part of a Star Alliance airline mash-up.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the color scheme, I would not have guessed I was not on United. They were OK, I got where I was going with only one major ticketing fuck-up in about 5 tickets issued, in general they were a competent-but-that's-it airline.
>>869082 >the goddamn clapping after the landing. German tourists are just as bad as bulgarians, in that regard. I'm still surprised that people don't get it. This is something done by WORKING CLASS aka LOWER CLASS aka POOR PEOPLE, who seldom if ever fly. If you've actually flown a lot, you would know that many many nations do this. I've heard various planes of (mostly) Italians, Irish, British, American, Indian, Canadian and German, clap.
>>869099 And hence i dont like pure tourism airlines, where you will get lots of those folks. Condor and Bulgaria Air are the only ones where i was in a plane full of clappers. I am not exactly a frequent flyer, but the hand full of flights/airlines I have been on where all nice an clap free.
>>869170 The Aeroflot reviews I've seen has been mixed, but I don't really expect anything over the top since I choose the cheapest tickets from a low budget airline, I just hope it's better than Norwegian or Ryanair
>>869172 Koryo tours. They only deal with the trip from China to NK and back though. The trip to Beijing isn't with a company.
>>869348 qatar is nice, although my only experience with them was a flight from IAD to doha and back. decent flight. nice food, nice crew. although checking in in doha was a pain. stood in one line, millions more opened and somehow i was still last to be checked in.
>>868879 If they had a free economy plus product like united had i'd fly them all the time. United has become a joke, out of the 20 or so flights with them this year only maybe 3 of the crews I had acted like they didn't want to kill themselves
>>869407 >Flying to Madrid tomorrow with Norwegian. I've used them before and it was fine for a low budget airline. Get ready to hate life, I at least know on the inter europe flights Iberia started charging for water and stuff.
If anything goes wrong, I've heard they're terrible for IRROPS so hope they stick you on an AA flight
>>870494 I'm top tier status with AA so I'm biased, but they are consistently great overall in my experience, whereas delta seems to be excellent, but when things go wrong they tell you to suck their dick
>>869099 >>>869082 >>the goddamn clapping after the landing. German tourists are just as bad as bulgarians, in that regard. >I'm still surprised that people don't get it. This is something done by WORKING CLASS aka LOWER CLASS aka POOR PEOPLE, who seldom if ever fly. If you've actually flown a lot, you would know that many many nations do this. I've heard various planes of (mostly) Italians, Irish, British, American, Indian, Canadian and German, clap. I really think it's intelligent people with polite manners. If you fly enough, and know the ridiculously poor landing conditions at some airports, or the kind of weather you just lived through with any kind of meteorology awareness, you'd feel like complimenting the pilot with a little clap. Sometimes it's just joy that some horrendous day of extended delays is over, as that pilot must be exhausted too. Maybe you're at one of those airports with runways too short for your widebody and literally stopped at the end of the tarmac, or has had the mountain at the end of the runway chipped away a couple times, like St. Thomas, where it used to be a thing that you'd slam on the brakes 2 out of 3 times and try to take off again. And, everyone clapped when you cleared the mountain. Locals know. What about that NYC control tower bullshit where you sit in a holding pattern in Atlanta for an hour and your kind pilot decided you'd have air conditioning at the gate, and burn fuel for your comfort while you waited for the okay. Get a clue. That's a horrible overgeneralization about class.
>>870832 I've had the opposite true of Delta and AA, but both seldom disappoint me. What I like is that major airlines are far more capable to get passengers to a destination when weather systems and equipment changes screw up the arrivals and departures. More flights per day, and you get the least minor ripples when it matters most. But, you should know your rights about what they offer you when you need to interline, get a hotel, or some compensation.
glasgow to toronto flying with air transat literally my first time ever flying or going somewhere by myself shitting myself scared ill fuck up during check-in or something, or having to sit next to someone really weird during the flight
reassure me or tell me how awful its going to be i just want Help.
>>870907 Don't worry anon,i did Paris/Portland OR in june,first time flying,first time out of europe,and i was alone,finding your fly at the aerport is like super easy,chek-in are quick and you barely don't have to do anything about it,keep it cool bro,it's easy as fuck,if i made it,you will
>>870907 Air Transat sucks shit. They specialize in charter flights. Cramped seating, no frills, staff who just went to finish their shift already. I'm sure you'll be fine, flying in general isn't a big deal, just follow instructions. But as for the carrier, you could have definitely done better.
I booked a flight from London to Athens with Flexflight. I've never heard of it, turns out it's a company that consists of several airlines. According to flight code, I'll be flying with Asian Pasific - although I'm not entirely sure, might be a mistake.
Anyway, anyone know anything about Flexflight? Not a big fan of airplanes here, so I'm slightly stressed
>>873152 Ultra shit. US flies a 757 from Amsterdam to Philly, old shitty narrow body for a transatlantic flight, no video in the seat or a good meal. The LA flight is on a better plane (probably), but still long. I've taken the PHLAMS flight, just bring some entertainment.
>>873152 >>873321 US isn't that bad from my experience. I've flown Little Rock-Paris and Rome-Little Rock with US. The crew wasn't bad, and the transatlantic flights were big planes with lots of free movies in economy. Food was meh-tier but not terrible.
These hags somehow convinced labor boards and the airlines that what they do constitutes a "career", while in every other country it's a three-year hitch for the hottest and brightest women.
I have never seen a higher concentration of leathery, used-to-be-kind-of-hot, hard-bitten, miserable pieces of shit than tenured attendants on US carriers. They're business-killers, and their seniority system discourages fresh blood.
Pic related: An empowered, professional woman who made a "career" out of what should be a first job.
>OP >ITT: Airline discussion >I will be flying with Lufthansa soon, does anyone have any experiences they'd like to share?
>everyone else >best airline >random foreign craptastic carriers You know what? Cathay Pacific, Malaysian air, Korea, Singapore, Emirates... Why are you flying on airlines that have management that hires by political or nepotism reasons, doesn't require military experience and pilots and with serious hours in the air, underpays pilots? Do you want people with judgement in charge of your life? Or a newly upholstered seat? Do you want the cheapest price? The best meal? WTF. Your criteria should be skill, money and ethics.
MH over the Ukraine? US carriers had a directive from the FAA and avoided the airspace since April 23rd. The MH airline and pilot didn't know there were 4 planes in 4 days shot down? Maybe he didn't know how to reprogram his flight plan. Get your head out of your ass. It was their job to know how to keep everyone safe. Why is there no infrastructure in that airline to watch all aspects of safety. The pilot didn't know that there were missiles capable of doing that? He was more than stupid. The missing jet? The guy trained pilots in his house on his computer. Is that what you want in an airline?? People who treat piloting and running an airline the equivalent of playing a video game? So, yea, do fly Lufthansa, BA, and a handful of other airlines from countries that hire college educated, military trained, exceptional people with thousands of hours and certifications both. That's what is #1, not appearances of "good airline" but actual good airlines.
>>874361 >I have never seen a higher concentration of leathery, used-to-be-kind-of-hot, hard-bitten, miserable pieces of shit than tenured attendants on US carriers. Some early flight attendants were also nurses, and highly trained in etiquette, not just pretty faces. Early flight attendants were fired once they were married through company policies at more than one airline. They were definitely there to flirt/attract men. Families of high regard forbid their daughters from the job. They were deemed not respectable, and even the print ads into the 70s were suggestive, like "fly me" and "fly for free." You can see why it created some feminist tough cookie kneejerk reactions, and lingering attitude. But, I disagree with your assertions overall. Yes, there are unions, but company policy is and always has been that poor employees should be culled by series of warnings. Piss off enough people, then you are truly bad. Be insubordinate to the chain of command, then absolutely you will be let go eventually. So, when you call a woman a "hag" on appearances, that's you being sexist, but if you call them a business-killer for attitude, service or doing their job poorly, it might be your treatment in kind. Gotta take that with a grain of salt. I've experienced shitty exceptions too (as a standby passenger), but I don't have the same overall opinion that you do, so it might just be you.
>>869407 Iberia is a fine, low budget airplane. I did Boston to Madrid. Food was above average, but be prepared to go flag down the attendants themselves for wine, water, or anything else they have. I thought they had excellent free wine (for what it is).
Seats suck, movie/tv screens suck, no wi-fi. Bring a book or drink till you pass out
I don't see any direct correlation between my comment and your reply.
Please don't assign intent to my comments based on your superior recognition of gender issues.
To make it simple for you: Nasty, mean, old women hung on too long in a field/job never intended for life-long careers. Realize life sucks and service industry (which is what a stewardess job is) is not a money-maker or life-long occupation. Becomes miserable. Instead of leaving or self-improvement, makes everyone else miserable, ruins US domestic carrier culture/business.
>>875023 this is starting in Europe too...I guess it's getting harder to attract sufficient new blood to cabin crew jobs. As virtually everybody can afford to fly now, it's no longer attractive to "fly and even be paid for it".
With LH there is also a notable quality difference in CC of short-haul vs long-haul. Long-haul they have top staff, you can really feel that they want to be 5-star carrier now.
>>875408 >Why is Delta the best airline to travel on in USA? Highest paid pilots/most experienced. #1 Best ability to recover equipment for unplanned weather delays, maintenance, and so forth. Some of the better terminals in their hub airports, from LGA, MSP, SFO, MIA, ATL. If you need to rest and recharge several devices? Done. Footrests at the gate? Done. CNN and boarding instructions on big screen at every gate? Done. I love what they've done with the iPad at every seat, delivery of duty free, cocktails and boxed lunches to your seat at the gate in 15 minutes flat. Leather banquettes, flowers on the tables...all very peaceful and nice in their remodels.
>>874455 >do you think Malaysia Airlines will recover?? most govt airlines are running in a deficit, but without them at all, governments take more major hits to international business, to tourism and so forth. The overall good to their outweighs running in the black. And, they can decide to pay (or not pay) most any international bill or loan as they want. Airlines are pretty mad at Venezuela right now who doesn't give a fuck about monies owed. Not a perfect example, but it won't matter to them in the long term.
>>869099 Polfag here, we clap if the landing was decent. My recent flight was so entertaining upon landing that no-one clapped.
>>874455 It's not like it's their fault. We don't know what happened with MH370 and MH17 was shot down. Funny enough my bet is that MH370 got shot down as well, this time by accident and then covered up to avoid embarassment.
1st time hearing clapping: "Oh shit, was that more intense than I realized?"
(After several more landings like this)
"Landings are the most intense experience ever."
Even though clapping is a positive thing, it really has a negative effect on people who were otherwise feeling positive already... and that's why it makes a difference between frequent or nonfrequent flyers.
Psychologically is has the same effect as someone saying "it's going to be okay" when you already felt that way after a dramatic event, or more commonly the "don't be upset" when you're on borderline anger and they push you over simply by saying that line.
>>868827 Flew to japan on lufthansa, It was a nice trip. also all them leftovers of food you can pick up. Only thing that bothered us was nightshift bagchecker who whined about everything. NO LIGHTER NO UMBRELLA NO GLASSES NO LUCKY CHARM Had to speak with authorities.
>>868827 i don't know if Only lufthansa has this. But underneath certain seats are the media storage units for the inflight entertainment systems and it easily takes up half the foot space under the seat. The box has sharp edges and heats up like a motherfucker. Horrible experience and at the time seat guru had not updated this kind of info. Never again on Lufthansa, thank god I graduated college and can afford business because that shit was horrible.
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