What do you think makes for a bad traveling companion? What were some of your worst experiences?
I got stuck with someone whose interests were limited to drinking and room service; literally the same shit you can do at home in any hotel. You can avoid this by discussing plans prior.
Mother-in-laws are the WORST.
>expects you to drag their 200kg of luggage everywhere for them
>criticise you for enjoy a drink while on holiday abroad
>stopping every 2 seconds to take photos of EVERYTHING
I always fly solo, but I can tell you who some of the worst company for the day were.
>ugly East European who fancied himself a Pick Up Artist. Idolized Roosh.v and couldn't shut up about "game", called going to the pub "night game" and called our clothes "outer game". Just stood creepily over girls. Needless to say, neither one of us got laid that night
>bratty Japanese couchsurfers who spent the whole time in the spare room, answered everything " yesyesyesyesyesyesyes" or "ohohohoh okokokokok" demanded a chauffeur everywhere (couldnt handle taking a bus) and thought we were filthy for walking around our apartment in bare feet. They also sucked at drinking.
>Americans in our hostel who told us Canada was a pussy country for not fighting in more wars, George W Bush was a better president than Lincoln, God made the earth 5000 years ago, and Indians and Arabs are the same thing. They were apparently there for a sports tournament.
>a tour bus full of Germans and Finns. Even the driver gave up trying to have any sort of fun after an hour.
People who don't research places to go, food to eat, things to do and then complain when you offer suggestions based on what you've researched.
Its really turned me off travelling in a group if I'm having to be the tour guide the whole time, I want a fucking holiday too.
its funny because the ones I despise the most are the fags who are running around to all corners of the city checking off the list they made 6 months ago like its a fucking scavenger hunt.
>have the kind of autism that makes me instantly mad if pointed at by a camera
>dad is the kind of traveler who sees the whole trip through a camera lens
Also shitty friends.
>traveling around yuro
>all they want to do is smoke weed just like back home
>they didn't bother saving money for the trip so they ask for money while playing guitar in parks
>People who don't research places to go, food to eat, things to do and then complain when you offer suggestions based on what you've researched.
This is why I travel alone. I've traveled with my cousins and a few friends before and it was always the same thing.
>Complain about waking up early. Get up at 10, don't leave the hostel/hotel until noon. This is especially annoying if the plan is to see things that open/close at specific times. Usually museums and historic sites close pretty early.
>Can't even fathom eating the local cuisine. Seriously, you spend so much money flying over and you just want to eat at Subway?
>Have absolutely no idea where there is to do in the place the go to. Yeah you're not really cool for saying "I'm just going to walk around and see where I get to".
>People who are at the extremes of the spending spectrum. If you're so cheap as to not spend money on entrances or activities because they don't fit your budget even though you just spent $1000 on a plane ticket means something is wrong. On the other hand people staying in hostels have a certain budget as well and will likely avoid $50+ restaurant meals.
I hitch-hiked with a 18 year old dude from Lithuania. He bitched if I stayed 5 minutes away from him to drink coffee somewhere and tried to flirt with me. He also asked a ride to a guy who was drinking beer and he fell asleep while driving on a cliff.
Ended up telling him to fuck off in front of two guys who gave us a lift (they laughed it off luckily) and paid his and my public transport the last day together. I hitch-hiked alone ever since.
Also my university friends. It honestly felt like being with a sect at some point. In two weeks at the beach we didn't meet any local at all and argued with the neighbours because they were singing Communist songs with a guitar. Realized I had nothing to do with them when some of the guys I was closest to called me a "sellout" for speaking to random people while in University.
Lastly my stepmother. She has to look up everything beforehand and refuses to explore because she doesn't want to get lost.
>four days in Cambodia
>only interested in drinking shitty local beer and smoking equally shitty weed
>no interest in exploring the sights like Angkor Wat
>no interest in local food unless I try them first
A creepy German dude
>asked if my Croatian friend was an escort (she's not)
>invited himself to hang out with us (I refused)
>asked me if I can find him an escort (I didn't know)
Japanese and Korean solo travelers
>reluctant to talk
>reluctant to interact with others even though everyone else is a solo traveler too
>goes to bed around 10:00 PM with lights off
Oh god. People who invite other people in to your trip. Like I'm cool if you hook up with someone and bring them to the hotel. Or even if you meet cool people and we go arounnd with them... But when you know someone in the city we are going to, they aren't automatically just part of our trip.
Also, shopping. I'm a girl so maybe this only applies to girls. But fucking shopping becomes an acceptable activity to waste days with. I didn't go to a different country to go to a mall all day.
Someone who wants the see the world differently than you.
For a long time I hated travelling because I always traveled with my family. We were tourists. We'd book a cruise or a hotel and a bunch of tours. We'd stay strictly within the tourist district of wherever we landed. To me, that is visiting a country and paying a large sum of money to pretend you're still back home.
Then I started travelling with friends who wanted to do stuff like buy a used VW minibus and drive across the country and it was the time of my life.
weirdly enough, the majority of Japanese travelers I've met have been freewheeling weed smoking hippy types who gave zero fucks. Total 180 from anyone you meet in Japan. Generally it's rare that you meet Japanese backpackers but when you do they're usually down to drink and play guitar til 6 in the morning and have nothing but disgust for their home country.
Girls tend to be more typically Japanese for whatever reason.
I have a horror story but I can't post it purely because he's a 4channer too and I might get called out. Suffice to say he's a sociopath and I've disliked the dutch ever since.
Now anytime I travel, 99% of the time, it's solo and at hostels. No fucking buts about it, I don't care if it costs a lot more money when you include lodging I am never going through that shit again.
As as a general thing, I am never content travelling with anyone unless they're one of my best buds from back home because of how much we click. I'm anal about some things like safety and security and we share mutual worries and interests so I feel I will get the most out of my vacation with them.
Nothing sucks harder than finally getting to the place you wanted to go and your companion wants to do nothing but shopping instead of seeing historical things, or they have some nagging worry that makes them stay in all the time, or refuse to do a good 3/4ths of the fun shit there is to do in the area. A bit fucking waste of money, I'd rather go solo and do everything I want.
I have a friend who's ridiculously stingy. Saving money for him is the end, not the means. He whined about being hungry and checked out snack bars throughout the entire day until in the late evening he finally found one that offered what he wanted a whole ~50 cents cheaper than the rest. He's also utterly unable to understand the concept of higher average prices in other countries, futilely searching for something priced just like back home.
Don't take me wrong, I travel on a tight budget as well, but sweet Christ, there are limits.
I've only met one Japanese solo backpacker, and he was like you described. He spent more time with his laptop in the hostel bedroom than outdoors, or even than in the common room. But luckily, those seem to be in the minority. (nice quads, though)
People who don't know their limits are pretty annoying to travel with, particularly if they really, really like getting drunk. I travelled through Italy with a friend who would insist on going out three-four times a week, but more often than not had to be supported while walking back to the hostel. He also puked noisily on the streets, in the hostel's corridor, in the hostel's common room, in our dorm, you name it. I mean geez, once or twice on the entire trip I could've tolerated, but two or three times a week.
People who compare things to the way they are back home, and complain about it constantly
>Americans are the worst for this
People who only want to spend time with people from their own country/race
>On a Contiki tour
>About 6 Asian-looking girls from Aus and US
>didn't know each other beforehand
>after first day none of them said literally even one word to anyone else in the tour group who wasn't asian persuasion
>Hey can you take a photo of us (doing cutesy asian hand signs in front of stonehenge)
>grabs camera back afterwards without even saying thank you
People who are too cheap even on basics
>weird thing about two free refills
>Lithuanian guy asks if he can have the second refill of my drink
>literally calculates pro-rata dollar value
>Just buy your own damn drink, son
People who are fucking rude to the locals
>Don't use phrase book
>Just shout in English
>Make racist jokes in English and assume they can't understand
>Flash their wad of s/e asian shitnotes around at a corner cafe like they're a fucking high roller
>hurr durr this is what they earn in like, a year
People who are rigid and can't deal with even the tiniest inconvenience / spontaneous change of plans without a complete fucking meltdown
>21 yo girl crying and refusing to check out of the hotel because she lost her fucking friendship bracelet from her friend back home (on a 2 week trip)
>Early 20s guy going into a rage because McDonald's was closed and he had to eat local food from one of about 1000 open restaurants
People who expect to have everything done for them / don't prepare for the trip properly
>Can I borrow your soap?
>Can I borrow your shampoo?
>Can I borrow your towel?
>That last one really gets me; Douglas Adams was right, a good towel is fucking sacred when travelling
It may have something to do with it that I worked for a tour company for a while (Contiki).
Since then I always fly solo. The only decent travel companions you will EVER meet are the people you meet when you're already on your trip.
Travelto festivals and events for work and pleasure, others on the same "circuit" make fine companions onthe road -- we're all in the same boat when the organizer fucks somethinguop, we've seen each other eough times before that we know we can trust each other, and there is always somebody who happens to know some local something or other that we really ought to see/do that the rest of us have never heard of.
I also have found family members to be excellent travel companions -- but of course that would not work as well if you don't like your family...
what a pussy
if you're a real traveller on a tight budget you steal food from bins and restaurants
you guys all complain so much (not unjustified)
but honestly someone who just complains all the time can fuck off (ironic i know haahaa)
instead, what makes a good travel companion? any stories?
Be prepared for the trainers to treat you like absolute cunts, to get 3-4 hours sleep per night max on your (unpaid) training trip, and to be expected to memorise the trip plan for every single tour that the company does, as well as writing and memorising pre-prepared speeches for every single city the company visits. I guarantee you, literally none of this is exaggeration. They put you through all of this shit under the guise of "if we make it harder than the real tours then you'll be fine once you're working" which is complete bullshit.
Not to mention the fact that you are literally replaceable at any moment. As in, you can be in the middle of a tour and they can call you up and tell you you're fired, and have a replacement tour guide ready to take over at the next city. The bus drops you off and you have to find your own way back to the airport.
Once you're out there it's not as bad. But don't forget that your job is to babysit a bunch of drunk people and europe and stop them from getting in trouble, and you have to take ultimate responsibility for everything. Someone loses their passport? Your problem. Someone vomits and pisses in their hotel bed? Your problem. A girl comes to you at 3am claiming she's been raped? Your problem. You get a call from the local police 5 minutes before you're due to leave for the next city, saying they have one of your clients in the lockup? Your problem.
And what if it's a slow season? There might not be enough clients to have tours going non-stop, at which point you'll have to arrange your own accommodation in London, at your own expense. It could be weeks or even months between tours, at which point you won't be earning, and won't be getting paid in full until the end of the season. But you still have to have somewhere to stay.
You will get a small monthly allowance from head office, but it gets taken out of the amount you earn from doing tours, which they will pay you for at the end of the season. 1/2
But what if you haven't done enough tours to cover the allowance? Then you owe money to head office. No shit. You owe money to your employer.
I didn't work for them for long, because of all this shit, but I guarantee you I have directly heard of every single one of these things happening (I stayed in touch with a few people from my training group after I left).
If you can deal with all of that, and not all of it happens all the time, the travel is amazing.
But I guarantee you, it's not a cheap or easy way to travel around Europe and it's not an extended holiday. They make you fucking work for that money, and they expect you to feel grateful for it.
Mind you, I worked for them back in 2009, so some or all of this may have changed by now.
As for the clients, they're usually not too bad. On every tour there's usually at least one or two pissheads and one or two needy ones, but most of them are ok.
I found that the tour groups themselves either get on really well and bond pretty tightly, or they're a bit indifferent and do their own thing, but still get on OK.
Every now and then there are some wankers that get on people's nerves but that's rare.
I guess the way I'd sum it up is by calling them what everyone else does, which is "chuck and fuck" tours kek
My own family.
It's fine when you're doing a regimented thing or are in the middle of nowhere, like safari or something, but when you're in a city everyone wants to do something different and because it's a "family trip" you can't separate, so you end up compromising on the most anodyne shit.
pick up artists are fuckin goofs mann. anyone who prides themselves on how many girls they can fuck has a serious lack of real character. If the only way you can get a girl to fuck you is by telling them a bunch of lies and changing everything about yourself to impress them then give your head a shake. I would have gotten annoyed with all of your situations and I have a pretty high tolerance for goofs, but a pickup artist is one of the worst...
I traveled with my cousin and she had the second loudest snores I've ever heard in my entire life.
I pushed and slapped her around a few times so she stopped snoring and let me sleep a little each night.
I'm already waking up early and getting tired walking the entire day no not be able to sleep.
Went to Japan during last year's summer break with two people. They're both hidden powerlevel weebs who go to 4chan as well. One of them is a friend who I've known since I was 4 and the other's a friend who went to same college as us for about a year before he quit. He also has autism, which we later found out, and we only saw him a few times a year when we went out for dinner as a group.
We thought it'd all be fine, but when we were there, he was simply being annoying/spergy as fuck all the time. I'll just greentext a list of cringyworthy shit that happened or something.
>Complains about things that cost money all the time.
>Wanted to visit Okinawa for a couple days, but didn't because it'd cost him more money.
>Gets really upset in a discussion with my friend about having to buy a 180 yen subway ticket instead of a 140 yen one (he believed the 140 one was enough for our stop, which it wasn't).
>Ordered lettuce (among other food) and the waiter misunderstood us and gave all three of us a portion of lettuce (which was put together on one larger plate). He questions the waiter about this, because the total price wasn't right and gets mad when he found out we had to pay for three portions.
>Pretty sure we skipped multiple activities, because they'd cost money (e.g. going to the top of the Sky Tree).
>Everything absolutely has to be RUSHED.
>When you're browsing one of Japan's many small stores together and stop to take a look at a certain item, he just starts fucking pushing you to make you keep moving
>In a restaurant before going to a firework festival, he hasn't received his karaage yet. Says we absolutely have to leave right now to make it in time, so we pay for our order including the food he hadn't even gotten yet. We end up arriving an hour early.
>Go to an aquarium place. He rushes past every window to be faster than us and to get through the whole place faster for whatever reason
>Same story for Ueno zoo
>Basically spent way too less time on everything, just because he wants to finish everything as quickly as possible and then we end up in our hotel room early every fucking time, doing NOTHING, except for watching TV, while he and my other friend play their 3DS's, on the other side of the world.
>Even has the guts to say "I bet you wish you had a 3DS right now" because we end up back in our room prematurely
>Also gets upset about everything, even joking around. When we make fun of each other (which happens to include him), he quickly gets all pissed off, because he sees it as actual bullying and says me and my other friend are teaming up agaist him.
>Have to eat dinner before we head back
>Find a nice restaurant along the way
>It's about to close, but they still let us friendly foreigners in
>Me and my other friend finish our soba
Couple minutes pass, he's still talking and nibbling on his noodles
>We tell him to hurry up already
>Gets upset says he's eating as fast as he can
>More time passes, restaurant clearly wants to close asap
>They finish washing every plate
>Again, tell him to hurry up and finish his single bowl of noodles
>He completely loses his shit, like holy fuck
>Starts screaming at me, inside a really small restaurant, almost on top of his lungs, saying I have to shut the fuck up and starts calling me shit
>Embarassing as fuck
>Me and other friend look at each other thinking "What the actual fuck is happening?"
>Have to tell him to stop being a total retard for a minute so the people working in the restaurant can go home
Pretty sure I've missed some things, but yeah. Turns out going out for dinner for a couple of hours and talking to on skype/steam is a totally different experience than having to live and deal with an autist for 3 weeks.
Most people that stay in Tokyo hostels.
>weeaboo's spending dad's money to fulfill their lifelong dream
>won't talk to you unless speaking Japonese and/or have slanted eyes
>aggressively will try and intercept any dialogue with Japanese people to impress with said Japanesey
>openly and loudly watches animu/play games in hopes someone (i.e. jap person) will connect with them, can't understand it's for kids
and then the occasional Australian,
>goes clubbing in Roppongi, get's ripped off by nigerian scammers, pretends he got laid the next day
We traveled really far for the first time ever and were actually friends before this. We also stayed in a 3-person hotel room, which we all paid for, so I can't just tell him to fuck off and look for a new hotel on his own, somewhere on the other side of the earth. I'm also not saying it was all terrible during the entire time there, but the good times together don't even come close to outweighing all this annoying, cringeworty shit.
What amazes me, though, is that he doesn't even remember most of the annoying shit that happened and how annoyed we were half the time. When me and the other guy were planning to go to Japan again, without him, he had no idea why we wouldn't bring him along next time and pretty much asked for a full explanation on what things we disliked.
You should just have told it to his face that if he didn't change his act you guys would leave him alone. And just cancel the hotels and get another one. Cause it seems like it wasn't one or two things but the whole trip.
>Most people that stay in Tokyo hostels.
Is this for real? I always thought it was an over exaggeration.
>and then the occasional Australian,
Why are Australians like this? Any Australians want to chim in? Do their lives suck so bad that they need to vent on their vacation?
No sadly they're just as bad back home... Literally the most obnoxious and thick people on planet earth. You should see how they ruined Whistler.
Worst part is they are blissfully unaware of their constant drunken jackassery, its normal to them. They truly truly believe it's acceptable and charming.
in my teens it used to be parents, only cause they
can't use a map to save their lives, but
they refuse to listen to people who can read maps
spend entire time shouting at each other getting lost
won't let me roam free.
now only my dad cause not only would he have his huge camera in use most of the time, he would also give instructions to us on what to do, what face to pull, and play an angry kindergardener if our face is not genuinely dream/happy/pensive whatever he comes up with. and this is just part of it, genuine asshole, and only gets worse since some of us go to therapy.
luckily i rarely travel with him anymore.
even more lucky is that my friends are almost all awesome travel companions, and even the ones who are not awesome are tolerable, and know we don't match, so they are fine with scheduling a lot of separate time.
why did i end up spending time with koreans, though. girls spending all the time taking selfies and doing make up to take selfies, then re-do make up to do selfies. guys just on their phones with their friends at home asking for advice wtf.
This is just as true for Americans. The difference between Australians and Americans is that Americans are arrogant as well. They go absolutely apeshit if anyone dare suggest that their country isn't the best in literally every single way.
I once deliberately started an argument with an American by talking about universal healthcare. He ended up getting kicked out of the bar, and I never even had to raise my voice.
>>In a restaurant before going to a firework festival, he hasn't received his karaage yet. Says we absolutely have to leave right now to make it in time, so we pay for our order including the food he hadn't even gotten yet. We end up arriving an hour early.
Oh shit, people who need to arrive to things super early are the worst. It must be some kind of phobia, because in my experience they honestly can't help it, but it's best to not have them as travel partners.
>go visit places with 3 friends
>one them doesn't want to do anything except go to shitty expensive "clubs" and drink
>go visit places with family
>every 30 minutes, I have to pose for pictures for 5 full minutes
this is why i travel via google maps streetview
>go visit places with family
>every 30 minutes, I have to pose for pictures for 5 full minutes
Reminds me of my dad. He's really great as a traveling companion - doesn't complain, interested in sights and culture, doesn't overspend but isn't a scrooge either, in a shit shape but still walks everywhere, doesn't stick to a plan rigidly and understands things can go wrong sometimes. But sweet Jesus, the pictures. He takes one every couple minutes and firmly believes all of them need someone posing.
>Live in Hawaii
>Tourists are all loud, unruly Chinese and Koreans
>Think I've seen the worst of the worst
>I was dead wrong
>Sometime in December, taking a bus to some convention
>Hear some strange voice behind me
>"OI DAT'S THEN SHEILA, GET ROUN' BEEN TEN."
>What the fuck did he just say?
>"AN' AT'S FAH TEM LO'A DOON, BUT CAN' HAP' I'?"
>What did he just call me?
You know those little hand-hold thingies that they put up on the bus so you don't fall over? Well on this particular bus, those hand hold things were extra squeaky.
>Based Aussie-Man of superior IRL shitposting just starts yanking away on those handles like his life depended on it.
>Jesus Christ, he's not even drunk. This is how he acts sober.
>His wife says something that sounds like "'AT'S ENOU, BENJI", but she literally could've said anything, those handles were squeaking so loud.
>He finally calms down after a few seconds and spends the rest of the ride telling his wife about the one time he "GON TA DOUGH HARTY", which, I'm not even mad about, because this has all been pretty amusing for me.
>All in all, Australians are the best freaking tourists I've ever had, hands down.
>>Have absolutely no idea where there is to do in the place the go to. Yeah you're not really cool for saying "I'm just going to walk around and see where I get to".
What's wrong with this? I love doing this. Just going to all the big tourist sites gets old real quick.
I second this. Walking around a random city and being open to talking to random people is great. Sure, sometimes you'll just end up back where you started feeling tired, but you might also end up having experiences you would never have predicted.
Better strategy is to pick two interesting and well known attractions in a city; now instead of taking a taxi from one to the other, schedule your time so you can walk between to find out what is in the surrounding areas but still have adequate time for both.
Aimlessly walking does have it's merits, but in the wrong cities it can be dangerous, or worse, boring. Speaking from experience here, not all of Montreal is interesting.....the potential to waste 6 hours being bored is very high.
Just be glad most of the Aussies who are like that are bogans and cant afford to travel usually anywhere outside of SEA. I would never go to Bali because it costs $100 return from Perth and all the loud mouth cunts go there and act like they own the place.
If you actually came to Australia and went to local bars (as opposed to night clubs) you'll find everyone is extremely friendly and polite, theres just a certain breed of us that are fucked in the head to put it lightly, and these seem to be the type that get around the most because only on /trv/ have I seen Australians so openly hated.
It's actually a very good test of your relationship. Travel together for a while. If you can't stand each other after some time, you know it's not going to last. If on the other hand you enjoy every moment of traveling together, you've got a keeper.
My general answers have already been said in here but:
People who are either total cheapskates or who spend money like crazy.
My best friend and I roadtrip around the US a bit but his cheapness can get pretty annoying.
We drove out to Vegas once and we didn't gamble, see any shows, stayed in a cheap as fuck hotel (although it wasn't that bad) and we pretty much only ate fast food because he refused to go out to a real restaurant even once since he didn't want to spend the money. I can't afford to travel extravagantly either but I at least like to get a couple good meals when I go someplace.
He's a great traveling companion for other situations though.
In addition, I've traveled with people who want to go out every fucking night and blow $100+ on drinks and food. Girls are the worst when it comes to this kind of thing. Also, girls are usually not ok with crashing on someone's floor in a sleeping bag to save money, or even staying in fleabag motels to save money.
On the going out note though I also find it annoying when traveling companions want to get fucked up or go to clubs all the time. I'll go dancing every now and then or go see some music but I usually prefer going to quiet bars, having some beers, and just talking to people. If you're not ok with that sort of thing or find it too boring, you're a very exhausting travel companion.