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Seriously /v/ why is Japanese games so un-sjw/political correct? And I dont mean /pol/ style like ''fuck googles xdd'' I mean like
>traditional sex roles isnt frown upon
>women are feminine
>Pervy games arnt censored or banned
and etc

Seriously why is that?
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Cultural differences
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Sorry for my bad English btw
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>>6786744
/thread
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They don't care, there's no left throwing fits constantly like in America and Europe so the game makers just do whatever they want or what will sell the most copies
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>>6786743
No jews
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>>6786743
Cultural differences, no jews, women actively fix things instead of complaining. Picture related, top rated hentai artists that are female. Instead of crying that its evil, they made hentai they enjoyed and it sold very, very well.
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>>6786743
Japanese sjw dont care about game industry scene.
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They build a culture around the idea of never sticking out as an individual and never letting outside influence change them
The language itself reflects this and the way women speak is clearly different from the way men do helping to make the sexes stay differentiated
Its also a shame society unlike the west which is a guilt society

So basically they are really fucking different ight as well ask why muslim stone women or why a tribe in africa the males have sex with all 5yo boys as an initiation rite
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>>6786743

has anyone here been to a jap gaming forum, or especially a jap anime forum. Dear god when a feminist/sjw topic comes up they put /pol/ to shame.

and youre wrong about pervy games not being censored, there is sjws over here that cry about all that shit.
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>>6786751
>never letting outside influence change them
That is actually false:
They take the good parts of other cultures, steal them and then say they are their own. See also: Stealing China's runes and changing them from Earthen to Moon, stealing the entirety of how factories and city planning works from Burgers post WW2, etc.
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because they're 60% pathetic virgins?
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>>6786753
I simplified but you know what I meant.
They look at all gaijins with disdain, of course they will take anything that could benefit them like kanji from china but they did isolate themselves completely for centuries
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>>6786743
No Jews
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Because in general their culture is like 20 years behind the rest of the world in how they treat women, so it's not really surprising
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>>6786743
t. Laura Kate Dale
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>>6786752
>there is sjws over here that cry about all that shit.

Difference being that they are ignored and are a very very small group, likely paid off by gaijin jews.
Women in Japan have always had all the power at home (traditional woman controls the money and gives the husband pocket money from his salary to spend) so they know better than to complain about sexism.
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>>6786757
Thats not how culture works, none is ahead or behind of another.
They treat women like goddesses too
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>>6786760
yeah anon, no culture influences any other in any way, that sounds legit
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>>6786755
Yeah but you can't also say the language is the issue either: Most Islamic nations and some Native Americans and I want to say Korea have different ways for men and women to speak. Prime example of that is Dances With Wolves the movie has Kevin Costner, etc. speaking using the female version of the language because that is what they were taught.
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>>6786760
>Thats not how culture works, none is ahead or behind of another.
Right. All cultures being equal is a shit meme.
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>>6786743

The west is obsessed with identity politics. The people in media (movies, TV, news, etc) being the most obsessed with it. Over the last 20 years we've gone from the media suggesting people avoid certain phrases or words to the media outright ostracizing anyone who says something they don't agree with. This is a large part of the reason western countries are seeing sweeping political change. People are rebelling from so much PC nonsense.

In Japan, the media actively tries to avoid having political connotations, as it is bad for business. This frees movies, anime and video games from having to fear PC backlash if they have something questionable. Though the government is starting to heavily regulate things. Putting heavy pressure on the CERO rating system to be more strict. So this period of freedom may be coming to an end.
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>>6786761
I never said that, try again.
>>6786763
I didnt say that either.
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>>6786765
>I didnt say that either.
>Thats not how culture works, none is ahead or behind of another.
That's exactly what you said.
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>>6786743
Its cultural differences.

You want to know the source of these cultural differences?

The lack of christianity and other monotheistic religions. Monotheistic religions carry strict morals about sexuality and the portrayal of women. Whether the western world refuses to accept it or not, these religions paid a key role in shaping the thought systems, education, morals, and values of western society.

As for the traditional sex roles point- that is almost entirely because of SJW counter culture trying to aggressively shove politics into everything.

For Japan, it isn't about traditional sex roles, as much as it is 'any sex role' As long as it is fiction there, it is all ok and no problem. Japan does have an issue if you try to be queer IRL though. But in fiction or fantasy, its all A-ok.
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Reminder
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>>6786759

you think censorfags are bad here, you havent seen japs kick a storm up when their tiddies get removed
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>>6786764
How is a more strict cero going to change anything?
They will just up the rating whoop de doop, if its adults buying it it wont make a difference.
Children games wont have pantyshots that will be what we will lose
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>>6786766
Not at all.
All cultures are different and culture does not evolve in a linear fashion is what I said.
I can still like one over another
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>>6786768
Where is the joke
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>>6786748
Isnt the biggest japanese bank owned by jews?
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>>6786771
If you can't speak English worth a fuck then stop trying.
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>>6786774
That was perfect English my friend, if you dont have an argument you should stop replying.
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>>6786770

You're already seeing effects. Dragon Quest VIII, a 2004 PS2 game, has recently been ported to 3DS. But they had to change some of Jessica's dresses to show less leg to keep the CERO A rating.

So no, game companies won't just take the increased rating. They will edit their own games to keep a lower rating, unless their intention is to have questionable material like a Vanillaware game.
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>>6786774
That was perfect English you fucking spic.
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>>6786743
Why do you care? For one I'm glad there's at least one country that doesn't give in to pc bullshit.
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>>6786775
fuck off pajeet
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>>6786774
>If you can't speak English
You can't speak with a keyboard, retard.
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>>6786743
>>Pervy games arnt censored or banned
well penis and pussy are censored in hentai games, and even in normal games tits are censored. They are so brainwashed that they will censor their own artwork they post on the internet.
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>>6786776
Not a big loss DQ8 was better on 3DS overall, I didnt mind the magic bikini changes if we get more costumes as a result.
And it was Horii who didnt want to make the game CERO B which caused it, if a dev wants to put ecchi stuff they will still be able to
I really dont care if there is less explicit content in non ero games anyways If I want ero I play ero
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Japan has a culture of being actually being either productive or a 100% NEET. So they spend little time with persecution complex bullshit
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>>6786781
>hey are so brainwashed that they will censor their own artwork they post on the internet.

Its the law
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They wasnt to sell their games to the "conservative" audiences.
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>>6786785
>conservative" audiences
>general lewdness and degeneracy
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>>6786784
>have an online alias
>draw all the dicks you want
They can even make a site not hosted in japan if they really wanted to gather artist against censorship
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>>6786785
What?
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>>6786786
Exactly. Look at /pol/. They hate race mixing but most of them have yellow fever. They fap to traps and pretend to support "DA WESTERN CIVILIZAYSHUN"
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>>6786787
That's how uncensored JAV exists, by the by.

Also, to people who question how fucking prude CERO is, we have gotten uncensored games MADE IN JAPAN, which CERO had the publisher censored in Japan. A handful of Sting's RPGs got this.
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>>6786743
They practice "actions speak louder than words"

All western women do is complain under the justification of "let muh voice heard"
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>>6786743
>women are feminine
Judging by the birth rates over there, they sure as hell aren't fucking anyone.
>Pervy games arnt censored or banned
Porn is a disease.

Japan pushes the inclusiveness meme harder than anyone. The reason vidya is fucked up now is because of shit Japan started. Japan pushed consoles to make it easier for casuals to play them. Japan dumbed down games to make it easier for casuals to play them. Japan introduced story heavy games. Japan introduced cinematic shit. The West does it too now, but at least SOME Western devs are still trying. Every nip dev is a greedy fuck. SJWs invading your hobby are just a symptom of what they have created.
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>>6786772
Woman are the joke so that would be you.
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>>6786789
>most of them have yellow fever. They fap to traps
Nice making shit up.
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>>6786782

>I don't mind
Until one specific game you do care about has a change you don't like. Its a slippery slope dude. Today they're adding a skirt to a dancers costume. Tomorrow they're removing Peach from a Mario game because of 'Stereotypes to women'. Think its a joke? That's the level of stupidity the west is going through right now. People need to voice out against it before Japan falls into that hole.
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>>6786794
>making shit up.
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>>6786743
A collectivist society that values the opinion of the whole over the desires of the individual and stresses the importance of economic success and a rigid path to happiness over doing what you want coupled with a hierarchical society that places importance of the opinion of the elderly and is resistant to change.
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>>6786760

Uhhhhh no..... take for example 3rd world countries most of their values and shit are 200 years behind
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>>6786789
>most of them have yellow fever
Sure pal, keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
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>>6786798
What is "behind"? If you mean worse, say worse. Culture isn't linear.
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>>6786799
>>6786794
samefag
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I'm not japanese, I don't speak Japanese, and I'm not particularly close with any japanese people. Never been to japan. My only connection is this japanese originated imageboard and my japanese cartoons and video games.

I don't watch or follow japanese news or media, so I really don't know what they be thinking outside of video game company press releases. I think it's very burger-ish to make baseless claims about their culture especially when I honestly have nothing to base them on other than my experience with their video games and cartoons.
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>>6786801
Nope.
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>>6786803
I didn't get a second (you) so that makes me right.
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>>6786743
It's not that they're anti PC, it's that the Japanese people can differentiate between reality and fiction.
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>>6786743
I had a weird conversation with a dude at work who used to live over there who told me that basically there are people that complain but no one really cares. All that happens is people either get socially demonized and they ignore it or they just regularly ignore it.
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>>6786804
It really doesn't.
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>>6786792
>Judging by the birth rates over there, they sure as hell aren't fucking anyone.
They live on a tiny volcanic island. Its a good, long term, that they aren't always positive.
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>>6786802
go with what you know, video games. You always hear how something was changed when a game gets brought over to America. You can try to make sense of what companies are thinking when they remove or place "questionable" content from games, and you can see they are applying a different set of values to games localized.
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>>6786749
>Redrop's a woman

what
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>>6786805
how can one country be so based?
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>>6786743
You realise this is the same country that routinely censors genitalia and gory deaths. Right?
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>>6786743
Because instead of whining that something that they were never the intended audience for doesn't pander to them and they feel left out so they cry until that things starts to conform to them, they go out and make their own shit and are fine with it being niche. See >>6786749 all those female hentai artists draw what they want instead of just crying that male artists don't make what they want and expecting them to completely change and industry for them, same with anime and video games as well.
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>>6786743
There are separate trains for women in Japan. So clearly they just deal with it differently.
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>>6786743
>Games are absolute shit and nothing but fanservice for 13 year olds who do nothing but cry about SJWs on the internet all day
>S-SJWS BTFO MUH GLORIOUS NIPPON
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>>6786743
Fuck off, social justice burger.
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>>6786811
The only thing Japan does better than not having sex, is killing themselves
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>>6786743
japan plays into peoples fantasies, including women

the west has the equivalent of your disappointed mother walk on stage and tell you how you're wrong for being a man
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>>6786743
>Pervy games arnt censored or banned
GTA V was censored to hell in Japan. Genitalia and sex were cut entirely.
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>>6786812
Guess who introduced that in Japan
Hint hint it started after 1945
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>>6786802

>he can't even make a baseless generalization about Japan
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>>6786808
>Its a good, long term, that they aren't always positive.
A third of their population is over 65 and that percentage is climbing. It is very bad.
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>>6786820
Not true at all, it comes from the Meiji period in 1868 faggorino
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>>6786822
Yes, and? They'll die off, cities won't be as crowded, wages will remain the same while housing costs go down due to not as many people needing housing leading to the ever so slight possibility that they can take time off and form relationships and, eventually, fug leading it to fix itself.
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>>6786743
Bait.
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>>6786807
nice edit
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>>6786824
North Korea and China will take action and annex Japan, anon. This is very, very bad for them.
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>>6786743
Because it's all done in good fun, but in hamburgerland tongue and cheek comedy and fun is "problematic"
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>>6786827
Except the US will protect them and, as a result, get a better deal out of the bargain.
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>>6786824
>They'll die off
No, they'll tax the shit out of the young. Look at how rampant NEETs are. People are checking out of society.
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>>6786829
Implying Okinawa isn't trying to kick out the US marines
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>>6786829
>Except the US will protect them
Haha, no. We're not doing that for much longer.
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Lack of influence from Christianity. Even though the Dutch brought it to Japan centuries ago, they kept it in check. They're not terrified of sex like Americans are. Pic related it's the best hentai mag in Japan.
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>>6786830
It's starting to happen in the west too.

Homeownership for people between 21 and 30 is starting to drop like a rock.
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>>6786830
Yes, and what happens after they die off?

>>6786831
They can try, but it won't be successful due to mostly one thing: The US is like half of their trade. They import literal boatloads of food from the US. In return we get their electronics.
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>>6786749
>Women don't have any power in japan
>No fuck you look at these hentai artists
Somebody bothered to save an image of a guy who is factually wrong and someone who is legit autistic?
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>>6786767
Buddhism (as really practiced in Asia, as opposed to westerners fascinated with what they think Buddhism is) and Shinto actually both have pretty strict morals regarding sexuality and many other things: stricter than most Christians these days, actually. It's just that the high ideals are partly mitigated by the whole reincarnation/transmigration thing.

The bigger difference is that the traditions of ancestor worship and pantheism tend to completely subordinate the individual to society, whereas the monotheistic religions (and the western philosophical tradition) hold the individual in higher esteem. Even though most Japanese are no longer actively religious (as opposed to superstitious, which they very much remain), they are an inherently more conservatively-minded people than Americans or most Europeans.

In today's Japan, being different and bucking tradition is tolerated as long as you don't draw attention to yourself or inconvenience others, but if you cause too much disturbance, you are deemed to be "antisocial," which is seen as a very grave sin indeed (much more so than in America or Europe). In Japan, "activists" tend to just get written off as disruptive busybodies.
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Japan is overcrowded anyway
If the population gets low enough, it'll start to balance itself out
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>>6786833
>This book says sex is evil so sex is evil it was written by god because it says god wrote it in the book

Burger logic.
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>>6786743
because it's a man's world in japan
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>>6786833

You know nothing about Japanese society. They have even stricter laws on porn and sex than America does. Without any ties to Christianity. And leading up to the 2020 Olympics, these laws are getting even more strict.
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>>6786834
That has more to do with stagnation of wages and people's reluctance to move out of cities due to the various jobs disappearing overseas than lack of room in the US. Thank Clinton for that one.
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>>6786835
>Yes, and what happens after they die off?
Japan turns into a third world shithole because their youth are too uneducated, poor, and/or demoralized to take up the torch.
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>>6786841
Possession of child porn was legal till just a few years ago.
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>>6786831

Its only a portion of people from Okinawa. There's also a portion who want to break away from Japan.

And its stupid for them to want either of these things. Especially with China building military islands near them.
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No Jewish influence.
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>>6786844

>Possession of child porn was legal till just a few years ago.
And the same can be said of many European countries. But now Japan not only has legal action against child porn, but is also trying to ban animated porn. And has been censoring all porn for at least 20 years. Even the 'Christian' west doesn't censor porn. Since that defeats the entire purpose of it.
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How much of this thread has anything to do with video games?
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>>6786748
>>6786749
>>6786756
>>6786846
These
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>>6786847
Hopefully it never gets that far. With Trump intending to trash the TPP there's still hope.
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>>6786833
The Dutch didn't bring Christianity to Japan. That was the Portuguese. In fact, the Dutch later actively assisted the Tokugawa Shoguns in suppressing Christianity in Japan, in return for a trade monopoly.
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>>6786743

Their women actually are an integral part of their video game industry. They're game developers, artists, and composers that know their audience and wants to do right by them.

In the west, the women consider themselves critics and journalists of a medium they despise and do not understand just because they have a useless arts degree from a third rate university.
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>>6786848
Deciphering why Japanese games are infinitely superior to Western games.
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>>6786849
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>>6786833
>Lack of influence from Christianity.
They literally have a town and burial site for Christ
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>>6786842
Details, details. All 1st-world countries have ageing populations.

And the next 20 to 30 years will be a game of wait-for-the-boomers-to-die.

>>6786848
/v/? Videogames? Haw, haw, haw.
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>>6786772
The blue hair.
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>>6786853
Nip games are hot garbage. I bet you only play blockbuster games and weebshit.
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>>6786858
Damn, anon, you figured it all out.
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>>6786851
Ah that's right. I was getting them mixed up.

>>6786855
It's less than 2 percent of the population though. Most of them being in Nagasaki. That particular site is is hilarious cause it claims to be the resting place of christ and that he was Japanese. I'm sure that'd piss off any western Christian.
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Technically christianity first came to Japan indirectly, through Korean converts
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>ITT: Repeating massive generalizations I heard on 4chan
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>>6786858
>implying indie shovelware is better than other shitty modern games
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>>6786833
>Lack of influence from Christianity. Even though the Dutch brought it to Japan centuries ago, they kept it in check. They're not terrified of sex like Americans are

This is a common misconception.

I've traveled to Japan for work. The general consensus from people I've met there is that the majority of the country is very uptight and conservative (hence their universal ban of explicit depiction of genitalia in all manners of porn and media).

The example you bring up is otaku culture, which is a very specific subsection of Japan's pop culture. It is consumed and produced by a good number of people, but it still represents a very small portion of Japan's overall population. The reason we're exposed to it is because we're also a very niche group of people who have an active interest in pop culture in Japan. Which leads to the misconception that Japan is very open minded about sex and gender roles.

An actual country that actually isn't prude and afraid of the mainstream depiction of sex is France.
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>>6786863
>implying indie shovelware is better than other shitty modern games
Yes, that is exactly what I am implying.
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>>6786855
>from the messiah who sold the world
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I will literally never understand why retarded faggots fetishish Japan as if it's some sort of bastion of freedom and anti-SJW anti-PC shit.

In Japan it is entirely a culture revolving around being PC. If you say anything, do ANYTHING out of line you get nailed down. You get ostracized, punished, delegated to some dark corner in your company and sit there until you die.

They have strict censorship against violence. Their media is the puppet of the government, constantly being censored in accordance. Working in the video game industry is absolutely terrible, and experiences that Kojima had to deal with is the norm and not the exception. And if you have kids or a family and are a man, you will never see them. You will work 14-16 hour days until you grow old and die. For shitty pay.
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>>6786847
They've censored all porn for a lot longer than 20 years. The relevant law has been on the books since the Meiji Era (1907, to be precise). The interpretation has actually been relaxed over the years: it used to be considered illegal to even show pubic hair.

The ban on CP was pushed on the Japanese government by other countries (the U.S. in particular), and similar talk of bans on "virtual" CP, or animated porn in general, is likewise due to international pressure more than any real internal public demand for it.
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>>6786744
To be fair the whole SJW thing is mostly America. Sadly videogames are made in the US so we all suffer.

Although my country now has its first SJW media nigger thanks to American influence. As if your Mountain Dew wasn't bad enough.
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>>6786863

They totally are.
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>>6786868

There was a period between 1970-1990 where hentai showed genitalia. Not to mention Goku's penis and other examples. But they started enforcing it again in the late 90s.
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>>6786868
This. In the past years there's been a trend of Japanese porn company's basing themselves overseas to circumvent the law and produce uncensored porn.
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>>6786869
>cultural marxism is america's fault

what
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>>6786871
Well Goku's penis is a different story. They still show little boy penis on TV these days, the most recent example I can think of is an episode of JoJo a few weeks ago.
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>>6786869

>Sadly videogames are made in the US so we all suffer.

America made good games at one point, but this is no longer the case.

Since game development is picking up in Europe (excluding France) and Eastern Europe, we'll be OK.
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>>6786744
fpbp
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>>6786743
Are you kidding, retard? Their porn can't even show a vagina.
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>>6786743
women do not stick up for themselves in japan
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>>6786875
>Since game development is picking up in Europe (excluding France) and Eastern Europe, we'll be OK.
Gothic 2 and Painkiller are the only good games ever made in Europe and that was during a time when the US was putting out far better stuff.
>this is no longer the case.
Bullshit.
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>>6786860
Nigga its 3 percent now.
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>>6786878
Not in the sense we're used to. Their defiance these days comes in the form of them staying single and supporting themselves. This is one of the many reasons why their birthrate is shit.
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>>6786874

Yes but 80s hentai would also show everything. Vagina, insertion, erect penis, etc.
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>>6786882
Yeah I know, but as I said, Goku's little boy wiener is different. It's not porn, that's why it's allowed.
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>>6786878

They just make the games. Female game developers in Japan account for something like 20% of all game developers. This is a staggering number compared to the west.

They don't complain about video games because they have jobs creating them.
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>>6786879
>Gothic 2 and Painkiller are the only good games ever made in Europe

Do you not count every European game ever published by Paradox.

Or other choice titles such as these:

Pathologic
The Void
S.T.A.L.K.E.R series
Mount & Blade series
Witcher series
Rayman series
Europa Universalis series
MOTHER FUCKING TOTAL WAR SERIES
Fable series (at one point)

And many many more. I think you severely underestimate how much video game development lies outside of America.
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>>6786862
It really is amazing how these /v/aginas manage to complain about generalisations in one sentence then proceed to generalise in another.

This thread is pure autism :^)
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>>6786886
Minecraft was also good back when it was in beta and Notch still posted here.
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>>6786886

I'll add a pretty glaring one to this list:

The Grand Theft Auto series.
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>>6786887

you're a perfect fit :^)
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>>6786886

>And many many more. I think you severely underestimate how much video game development lies outside of America.

A lot of people also mistakenly attribute Canadian games to America. Most of the older Ubisoft and Bioware games were made in Canada.
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>>6786884
It's not because it's not porn, but because it's not shocking to anyone. Young children aren't segregated by sex in the bathhouses (they may go with either parent), and children of both sexes commonly bathe together at home. A little boy's penis (in a non-sexual context) is something people are used to seeing on a fairly regular basis. It doesn't apply to girls so much because of feminine standards of modesty.
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>>6786889
And prior to that, Lemmings, yes?
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>>6786879

The amount of AAA horseshit and pretentious non-games posing as games in America compared to the very small number of underrated gems produced can still lead to the generalization that good games are no longer commonplace in America.
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Japan respect their customers and treats them like customers

>I want moeshit
>Here is your serving of moeshit
>Thanks

>West
>Here is the money, could I get some moeshit?
>DIE YOU PEDO, BITS HAVE RIGHTS YOU KNOW

>>6786864

And also they're the biggest weebs in europe.

>>6786867

>Japan
>My working day was shit
>I guess I will sit down and watch some slice of life anime full of tits and ass

>USA
>My working day was shit
>Should I watch AGENDA - THE MOVIE, play AGENDA - THE GAME or read AGENDA - THE COMIC?
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Western world is beyond ruined.

Japan hasn't been ruined.

That's all you need to know.

Why do you think most games even non weeb are from Japan?
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>>6786893

Of course. And people sometimes forget Bully as well.
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>>6786886
Don't forget Serious Sam, ARMA, and Rayman.
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>>6786896
This is what weeabos actually believe
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>>6786886
I will give you the older Paradox games, (not EU mind you, but at least vic 2 and ck2 were good) but everything else is mediocre at best.
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>>6786895
>And also they're the biggest weebs in europe.

I don't blame them. France has a very prestigious University dedicated to animation that even Japanese animators aspire to attend.

Some of the best western traditional animation in recent years came out of France and oddly enough, Ireland.
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>>6786898

I included Rayman homeboi, but yes Serious Sam is a fucking great series.

I can't personally attest for ARMA since I haven't played it much outside of DayZ.
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>>6786897
Bully was made by Canada.
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>>6786869

Well, we can have our "We don't give a fuck" directors and dev heads but don't be surprised if they wind up being dismissed as utter jokes.

So if you want your reputation to be assocaited with B Movie garbage, forever kept from the Hollywood walk of fame and being considered to a borderline sex offender. You are free to make the most triggering, offensive western game as possible. The press is also obliged to just ignore the noisemakers.

See the uncensored Valkyrie Drive game, we didn't even see Polygon ranting about how Lesbianism being made into a B movie plot is problematic and instead complaining about FFXV again.
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>>6786900

If you're saying The Void, the Witcher series, Mount & Blade, and the entirety of the Total War series are mediocre at best then you're a lost cause.

Then I suggest that you list any America video game produced in relatively the same years as those games and are comparable in genre and mechanics if you would care to prove your point.

Try not to list Canadian games as American ones.
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>>6786901
Gobelins really went a long way.
>Be 17yo self
>Look up 2D animation school
>Our only 2D animation school here (Quebec, Canada) is hard as fuck to get into (like 5% acceptation rate (number of students getting accepted out of those who applied))
>Look up France but implying I could afford to travel there and study
>ESMA is as hard as my province's school to get into
>Gobelins has a 98% acceptation rate

Since then I've just kept hearing about them through the years, I bet ESMA went down and Gobelins is the new hype (And for a good reason)
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>>6786903

Was it? I knew that the soundtrack was made in Canada but I totally didn't know that it was Rockstar Vancouver.

Good on Canada. Bully was a good game.
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>>6786905
>The Void
>muh slavjank art game
>the Witcher series
worst WRPG series I have ever played and I have played A LOT
>Mount & Blade
Janky mess
>Total War
Dumbed down over simplified meme game that people only play because it looks cool.
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>>6786906

I've always been a fan of traditional animation and I actually visited the Gobelin campus in Paris, where they did a showcase for visitors of what the students were studying at that time (which was something on dynamic oil painted backgrounds that traditional Chinese animators did back in the 80s that even Disney adopted for their films such as Bambi).

But I was never very talented, so I became an Engineer and I'm now working in Alberta. If I had any ounce of talent I would've liked to have taken a shot at being an animator.
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>>6786743
Japanese don't really have feminism, and they don't have (((our greatest allies))) at all.
That actually applies to all gooks but since only elevens make video games it's most readily apparent with them.
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>>6786901
Not to mention the prestigious history of Franco-Belgian cartoons. Even as an American, I grew up on Tintin, Asterix, and of course the Smurfs.
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>>6786772
Social justice stops where Chad Thundercock begins.
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>>6786743

>implying sjwism isn't just a fad
>implying sjwism won't die within a year

it'll happen you know this to be true
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>>6786908

You still didn't prove your point that Americans have made better games in those respective genres.

All you did was reveal your absolute shit taste in everything. That's all you proved you dumb cunt.
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>>6786891
>bioware canada
Isn't that just the first BG and Shattered Steel?
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>>6786914
>within a year

I remember people saying this in 2013
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>>6786912

It was the same for me as a Canadian. I believe I even read Tintin in its original french version.
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>>6786917
Now there's a reason for the hopefulness.
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>>6786915
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>>6786916

Bioware is still Canada for better or for worse.

Mass Effect was pre-EA acquisition, as was their KOTOR games.
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Remimder:
This kind of obvious bait thread would have 404'd with below 5 replies on /a/.

/v/ is a shithole.
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>>6786920

I don't know man, he writes like a mongoloid. I'm sensing genuine stupidity.
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>>6786917

but it's been dying down for the past year
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>>6786922
How is it bait exactly?
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>>6786919
Just think, if shitlibs had learned to ignore what they don't like Trump and the far right would just have gone away :^)
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>>6786834
>Homeownership for people between 21 and 30
Living in Europe that sounds really surreal.
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>>6786910
I wish I could've afforded to go to France, I finished High School with such terrible grades that I couldn't get accepted in that one college offering 2D animation courses. I've seen what some of their students can do and honestly, I'll let them have fun trying to turn terrible drawfags into full-fledged professionnal animators, I'm joinning the army.
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>>6786911
Is it true that the Chinese are wise to the JQ?
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>>6786922

Sometimes what's bait and what isn't can surprise you.

Or it shouldn't, since we all know redditors and people from NeoGaf come here.
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>>6786743
Political correctness is fascism with manners.
It's a mind control mechanism designed to keep you in line and convince you to censor yourself before your mouth even has time to speak your thoughts.
It's a system which, by it's end, wants you to think about very little for yourself.
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>>6786743
Cultural Marxism isn't taught in Japanese schools. Nobody is trying to get the Japanese to "deconstruct" their culture. They're proud of what what they do and aren't constantly worried about what people are going to say about it.
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>>6786931
/thread
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>>6786905
The Myst series
Fallout New Vegas
Command and Conquer series

>Try not to list Canadian games as American ones.
Why not? Canada is American too :^). Would only be fair since you're comparing an entire continent to one country.
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>>6786743
Jews fear the Samurai
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>>6786915
>You still didn't prove your point that Americans have made better games in those respective genres
RPG:
>Wizardry
>Might and Magic
>Ultima
RTS:
>Age of Empires
>Warcraft/Starcraft
>Command and Conquer
FPS:
>Doom
>Quake
>Unreal

What other genres should I do?
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>>6786927
Living in the New-world Anglosphere is suffering.
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>>6786928
>I'm joinning the army.

They pay for your post secondary after two years of service, one year if you were deployed for any amount of time. I assume you're Canadian like I am. It's not a bad gig.

I served with the 746 Communication Squadron and was deployed for a year. And they paid for the entirety of my University education.
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>>6786925

Typical "industry is dying" talk that mods hates because it goes nowhere and just another excuse to take the piss on others. Unless you post saint Sarkeesian's mug as the OP it is unlikely to be deleted.
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>>6786918
I wish my French were good enough for that.
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Women are kept in there places in Japan.

Theres a problem when even the BIBLE says to keep women as nurturers not leaders. Which is what they want to be in america.
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I don't think it's so much about Japan being edgy but rather how backwards Trumpistan is becoming.
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>>6786934

I'm Canadian, I'm not America. By that logic all Mexicans are also American and both you and Trump would have some soul searching to do.

>Myst
>C&C
>Comparing an RTS to Mount & Blade

And I said comparable release dates. I did say that America, at one time, did release good games. Learn to read you dumb nigger.

Also you're fucking fooling yourself if you think any C&C games have been good past 2.
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>>6786811
If it weren't for Japan we wouldn't have any video game industry in the West whatsoever
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>>6786940
>I wish my French were good enough for that.

We didn't have a choice really. French is mandatory from grade 3 onwards where I lived. And Tintin was a good teaching aide since it was mostly dialogue and expository stuff.
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>>6786943
>And I said comparable release dates

Define comparable, assclown.
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>>6786946
2 nukes was not enough.
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>>6786943
No, you're American. You live in the continent of America.
>By that logic all Mexicans are also American
They are American.
> you and Trump would have some soul searching to do.
Why are you shoehorning Trump into this?

>And I said comparable release dates
They are comparable. The Void released two years after the last Myst games. C&C has been a "competing" series with the total war games for a long time too.
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>>6786947

>picking at semantics
>Myst: 1993
>The Void: 2008

Comparable as in not separated by 15 fucking years, dipshit, Myst is probably older than you.

I now have an even lower opinion of America, seeing as how your public education system churned out a turd like you. It's not my job to teach you the meaning of the word "comparable".
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>>6786943
>By that logic all Mexicans are also American and both you and Trump would have some soul searching to do
Taconiggers are American, but they need to stay in their containment zone. I don't get what is hard to understand.
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>>6786949

>>6786949

>No, you're American. You live in the continent of America.

I'm not the guy you're responding to, but who actually fucking thinks like this?

>Mexicans are American

I don't know about that, down here in the Carolinas you'd find a shitload of people who'd disagree with you.
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>>6786950
>Myst: 1993
Wrong poster, fuccboi. I'm >>6786936

>Comparable as in not separated by 15 fucking years
Give me an exact time frame then.
> now have an even lower opinion of America
Says the leaf, who elected a snowboarding instructor as a leader, legalized bestiality, and criminalized misgendering trannies all within the timeframe of a year. Your country is toast, pal. Just give us Alberta before you ruin it so we can build a wall around of the rest of your country and watch you die.
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>>6786949
>No, you're American. You live in the continent of America.

I work with a guy from sweden, he doesn't say he's european. he says hes swedish. It's the same here in the UK. You yanks are weird if you define your national identity by the continent you live in.
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>>6786952
>, but who actually fucking thinks like this?
Many people do, because it's true. Americans are Americans because their country is called the United States of America, but that doesn't mean you're not American either. You live in the continent of America.
>shitload of people who'd disagree with you.
That's fine. Many people from Eastern Europe (mainly Russians) wouldn't consider themselves European, but they still are European. Sure, you can say you're Russian all you want, and you'd be right, but saying you're not European too is factually incorrect.
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>>6786895
Could you be any more of a massive faggot, anon?
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>>6786954
Burger are all non-assimilating immigrants. Of course they have identity problems.
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>>6786953
>Wrong poster

I don't give a fuck, you're both shitheads. It applies.

And your half your country is still buttmad about the other shitty half electing a reality TV star. Not that is actually matters, since both of our democracies are a fucking job since all we're electing is a person to appear on TV while the actual policy making is influenced by lobbyists and the head of the treasury. Leave it to a dumbass like you to think your democracy and freedom is real.
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>>6786954
So you're not European... despite living in the continent called Europe? Then this entire discussion is meaningless because Europeans don't make games. Europeans don't even exist.

My original post was more of a light joke than anything btw, but everything I've said is still true.
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>>6786955

>but that doesn't mean you're not American either. You live in the continent of America.

For us it's a coincidence. I've been to Canada and I've never met anyone who refers to themselves as an America. I've never been to Mexico but I imagine they don't do that either (cue mexican immigration joke here).

It's not factually wrong, sure, but it's colloquially wrong. People outside of the USA don't call themselves "American", you just assume they do.
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>>6786959

I'm technically European, but I don't refer to myself as such because our national identity comes before whatever non-existent cohesiveness that binds Europe. There's a reason why we officially withdrew from the EU.

There's what's technical, and there's what's practical. And practically no one in Europe refers to themselves as Europeans. I think you assume that because you lump all of us as one entity and not as separate nations with separate identities.
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>>6786961
>I'm technically European
>not identifying as a member of the angloshpere
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>>6786962

I refuse to associate myself with the mistake that is Australia.
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>>6786960
>People outside of the USA don't call themselves "American", you just assume they do.
They do. Why are you assuming otherwise? Have you never seen the countless "United Statians, not Americans" and many other such discussions/entire websites all throughout the internet?

>>6786961
> I think you assume that because you lump all of us as one entity and not as separate nations with separate identities.

Nah, I always address people on an individual level (well, it depends on the sort of discussion really, but I do most of the time). Again, I was mostly taking the piss out of that other anon.
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>>6786958
>Leave it to a dumbass like you to think your democracy and freedom is real.
>tfw pic related becomes a reality
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>>6786964

>They do.

Leaf here, we really don't. Please stop speaking for us on our behalf, you're almost as bad as an SJW
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>>6786956
Could you?
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>>6786963
This is why we Brexited out of the Australian Federation before Brexiting was cool.
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>>6786963
https://youtu.be/qjtsId4N6-0
Seems like a pretty sweet place to me.
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>westcucks fighting over which shitdevs make better non-gamey PC garbage
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>>6786961
>There's what's technical, and there's what's practical. And practically no one in Europe refers to themselves as Europeans.
I do.
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>>6786839
You should probably stop spouting shit you know literally nothing about.
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>>6786966
>Leaf here, we really don't. Please stop speaking for us on our behalf
Truly a masterful post from the collective Canadian conscious.
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>>6786965

Look I too can post a political cartoon saying __ country is fucked. We both live in shitty countries, the faster you come to terms with that, the less the suffering.

>b-b-but muh trump

Won't amount to shit and you know it. People with real power will make the big decisions, and they'll even write his speech and walk him through all of his presidential addresses.

Nothing's changed.
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>>6786973

>I know your country better than you do

Truly a masterful post from an SJW. Careful there sonny, next thing you know you could be speaking on behalf of a minority because you totally know the oppression they're going through.
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>>6786763

Cultures can't be quantitatively compared, you dingus.
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>>6786974
Nope, US will always be superior to leafland.

https://youtu.be/yZntyiqpWKw
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>>6786975
>I know for a fact that the 36+ million people in my country absolutely do not consider themselves to be "American" in any way shape or form

Then the epic SJW meme.
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>>6786977

I wouldn't say that. At least democracy actually works. Trudeau was a spite vote since the Conservatives got complacent. This gives them a chance to get their shit together in 3 years.

And honestly? I'd rather have sandniggers than actual niggers. You burgers should get that looked at.
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>>6786743
>baka gaijin thinks they have any insight into the political climate of nippon
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>>6786979
>I'd rather have sandniggers than actual niggers
I will take christian niggers over mudslime niggers any day.
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>>6786978

>I know for a fact that the 36+ million people in my country absolutely do not consider themselves to be "American" in any way shape or form

Absolutely. In fact we're considering building a wall on the border to stop the entirety of San Francisco from trying to get into Canada after your election.
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>>6786981
Never5get the crusade.
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>>6786981

So it's OK for all your Tyrones to pump their seed into your Stacies as long as they are Christian? This is surprisingly tolerant of you.
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>>6786982
> In fact we're considering building a wall on the border to stop the entirety of San Francisco from trying to get into Canada after your election.
Waste of money tbqh. The sanfran folk are incapable of navigating out of their highway jungle.
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>>6786984
If they are decent people I really don't care. The uppity ones aren't getting white women, or any pussy for that matter, which is why they are constantly chimping out in the streets.
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>>6786805
wtf im a weeb now?
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>>6786813
This, japanese women have their own fetishes. They go and make stuff that panders to their own kind instead of trying to tear down everything men like and force it to conform to their tastes. For every lolicon male artist you have a BL loving female one, and they both stand united in opposing outsiders trying to censor them. The japanese understand cognitive dissonance while westerners seem to lack it.
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>>6786869
Do a little digging you'll figure out ((who)) it is
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Cultural differences for example pic related is considered acceptable in Japan while most westerners would be offended by feminine attractive women in bathing suits
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>>6786990
>most westerners would be offended by feminine attractive women in bathing suits
https://youtu.be/5P0HRDCDPQE
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>>6786990
Honkers is a brain dead potato. You can worship your handicapped goddess all you want but don't get rustled when others give you a weird look.
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>>6786743
>Pervy games aren't censored

They can't even show nipple or any form of intimacy like GTA, GoW, or The Witcher. Even Bioware games are more risque.

Nip games, as well as anime, have a huge trans and sissy fuccboi agenda.
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>>6786743
>>women are feminine
>>Pervy games arnt censored or banned

These are not political correctness things, and most women here are still feminine.
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>>6786800
Being a pedantic cunt is a sign you have nothing intelligent to add to a conversation.
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>>6786749
ArielX or whatever is a woman and is probably the most successful western yuri artist. There is also that one girl who always draws Samus getting fucked.
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>>6786991
Thanks for the redpill, breh
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>>6786809
You guys don't know anything.

Japan doesn't like that stuff either. Japan tried to ban that stuff. This is an event that already has happened. The only reason they saved it was because they said banning it would be unconstitutional, just like we did in America. The people who like and buy that stuff are viewed by general people as something is wrong with them. Stop getting ideas in your head about how great places are solely based off your dislike of unrelated things you see in your country.

This is the only real difference between Japan and America.

American companies and developers are full of normalfags because being a game developer is seen as a "cool" job and so the games culture reflects it.

In Japan it's not nearly as prestigious and one of the worse software jobs unless you work at a place like Nintendo, so they make products for and cater to extremely niche markets.
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>>6786833
Comic LO is truly Japan's greatest publication.
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>>6786952
>I'm not the guy you're responding to, but who actually fucking thinks like this?
Europeans, IE people not from America or the Americas at all. They act like because they are some shitty EU everybody has to identify as a continental person. It's safe to just ignore those retards.
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>>6786743


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chc5DIv5kOE&t=10s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyIhYOJWQ8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppAG_GumG0&t=16s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJtYPuUXFT0&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-GJzgzNPxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pH-pB4hbnM&t=156s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK_MGfbm4UE&t=133s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EkU20AyXRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS6VzDlGaCU&t=93s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZcz4g6QM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsm4NB8X5I0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkwsGbEGZus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz_NM1DH8Yc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Cc71K_kAE
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>>6786997
It explains quite a bit about the rampant degeneracy and shit taste on /v/ if nothing else.
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>>6786805
>reasonable people doing government work exist
Welp, that's a pleasant surprise, too bad it happens on other fucking side of the globe.
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>>6786743
Except violence in Japan gets censored all the fucking time, not to mention the leaps and hoops they have to do to get CERO A and still feature sexy girls in the games.

Checkmate atheists.
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>>6786895
I can already tell your powerlevel for western media is disgustngly low. Most weebs are completely ignorant to everything in the west besides a few mainstream things that are marketed to hell.
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>>6786991
>not posting The Golden One

If you're going to listen to some Grade-A bullshit you might as well hear it from a beautiful manhunk

https://youtu.be/G-RTt7yyzIs
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>>6787004
Retarded impressionable youth can copy a 'cool' mass murderer but they really can't copy the look of a busty anime waifu, can they?
It would be fucked up if it was other way around.
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>>6787006
>Grade-A bullshit
Are you sure about that?
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>>6787008
>>6787006

Kek there is no advantage to having sex over porn. You are all just mad. Having sex leads to kids and kids are shit in the modern world. This world is all about maximizing our own pleasure, not some collective shit for survival. If you are a collectivist you literally are a sheeple and have a shit IQ. I'd kill an entire country if it meant I wouldn't die.
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Holy shit you people do not live in reality.
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>>6787010
Sorry to inform you but reality has always been taking anything you can out of context as much as possible to support whatever narrative you are pushing.

This is reality. It's always been this way.
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>>6787008
holy kek
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>>6787007
Sorry but if you are anti censorship it means you must stand against all sorts of censorship. Japanese games fans tend to have this double standard of fictional hyper sexualization being more okay than fictional hyper violence... But wasn't the argument that it's fictional, therefore it means jack shit?
Why can this only be applied to sexual content?

In fact, we could apply what you said to hyper sexual content too: retarded impressionable youth could start groping women because they do it in a videogame. Retarded impressionable youth could fall into anorexia because anime is always unbelievably beautiful and unbelievably thin.
See how easy this is to say? Meanwhile customers get a butchered version of the original game regardless of the situation.

No matter what, censoring violence is not un-PC. It's very PC.

Also they have obscenity laws. No matter how much you feel cucked because SJWs whine about videogames, you will always have more sexual freedom than Japanese people, always.
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>>6787013
For the most part I agree with you but I have to point out we have obscenity laws in America too and it's retarded.
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