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What is the worst QC you've ever encountered on a Transformer, /tfg/?
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>>6059931
Leader Class Magnus.
Upper part of his leg is not fully formed so I couldn't plus in the weapons on the 5mm port. Noticed it too late so I couldn't return it
>>6059931
Couple of my CW planes had stress marks right out if the box, but other than that I haven't really has any issues.
>>6059942
Funny, my Firefly has a misaligned pin- it doesn't go through the leg quite straight, so I have to put a bit of torque on the joint to transform him. Unfortunately I only noticed after it was too late to return him.
>>6059944
Stunticon cars suffered that as well. Most commonly in the arm joints.
>>6059931
I actually had all the original G2 Aerialbots and had Slingshot break on me during a transformation made that awful cracking sound gold plastic does and then the legs just split in two.
It then followed with transmetal Megaton snapping like a twig a few years back.
And then to hear they are still using the plastic is just dumbfounding.
>>6059931
Worst is probably when I got a CW First Aid with enough mold flash on the legs that they couldn't peg onto the backpack for ambulance mode.
Easy fix with a little shaving with an exacto, but still. Imagine if a kid ended up getting that.
>>6059938
Dude that was exactly what I also had on my first Magnus except I was able to return mine.
>>6059931
>Classics Galvatron
>literally all four limbs fell off while removing cardback
Never returned a toy so quickly, think I wound up exchanging for Octane who's great, though I think he should get a voyager to go with his fellow triple changers soon.
What's the consensus of Breakaway?
He seems like a pilot transforming his jet by the smallness of his head.
>>6060022
I've never heard anything bad about the mold itself, though the colours aren't the best. ROTF Thrust might be a better bet.
>>6060022
He's full of character and has a hell of a silhouette. Only problem is that his head can be a bitch to pose. Thankfully that can be fixed with a dremel if you like, which makes him one of my all-time favorites.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/a-different-breakaway-cockpit-modification.408908/
>>6059931
T30 Blitzwing is the worst Transformer ever made.
>>6060062
If we're excluding gimmick shit I'd make a strong case for AOE Voyager Grimlock
>>6060062
Bulletbike disagrees.
>>6060066
Voyager Grimlock isn't even that bad. Leader Grimlock is worse.
>>6060066
VoyaGrim at least tries to be FoC Grim.
LC Grimlock is just meh.
>>6060062
memes aside I'd say that the OG Ratchet/Ironhide mold is a contender
>>6060066
>He didn't upgrade AOE Grimlock to be UNSTOPPABLE
>>6060075
I don't think that's fair. G1 Ironhide and Ratchet weren't designed to be robots, and they're fine playsets. The Classics Ironhide is worse than the G1 one.
>>6060082
this would've made the charge scene so much better.
Also I think I only bought a Kreo to get a mask for Lockdown.
>>6060082
I may be the only person on this fucking planet who enjoyed Construct-Bots
>>6060094
lol no, I am THE ONLY ONE.
>>6060083
Doesn't matter.
>>6060094
I only picked up the tiny Hound one. Loved it.
Really wish Cyberverse would come back, big characters in pocket scale with articulation is something that is always needed.
>>6060062
>implying not Supreme Cheetor, the Tower of Babil of TF figures
>not Titanium Megatron who can't even use his joints due to full retard use of die-cast
>not RotF Blazemaster, the text book example of bad engineering
>Nah it's Blitzwing because memes
>>6060021
The Voyager triple changing Optimus is a pretool for Octane fyi
>>6060147
What Zoid is that?
>>6060149
Damn. It's almost as if they designed that shield exclusively for Rook.
>>6060082
>>6060097
They were handy for some easy upgrades.
>>6060154
>Cloud Shockwave
Was he worth it?
>>6060155
I paid like $30 from Lena on ebay. So yes.
>>6060150
>Zoid
He's Black Wall-E. Something like Black Convoy if he scanned Wall-E.
>>6060022
Dawwbot is adprable and one of the best jetformers, even if the robot looks more like a jet hit him from behind and he made the best of it.
>>6060022
Him and Thrust are good in my book.
>>6060094
Contructs-Bots were rad until they stopped using 5mm pegs/ports.
>>6060163
>the robot looks more like a jet hit him from behind and he made the best of it.
Isn't that the best part? I wish he actually made it into the movie somehow. I remember being confused when the first-wave ROTF toys had deluxe Breakaway and a dozen Springers among the movie characters.
>>6060022
I bought 3 versions of this mold but think I currently only own Breakaway. He's a pretty great figure.
Voyager Snapdragon and Apeface when? G1 Headmaster 'Cons are looking a little outmatched in this line. The Titan Masters are nice and all, but the G1 versions already have 3 modes- perfect for Titans Return. And easy redecoes as Optimal Optimus and TM2 Megatron.
>>6060164
>Him and Thrust are good
I have Thrust as my Flywheels, wish the TM head could fit on him.
>>6060176
He's pretty cool in the RotF game.
>>6060191
They never make Decepticon toys.
>>6060191
The way they made the Voyagers be triple-changing Headmasters, it's practically begging for Apeface and Snapdragon.
I have a hunch that they're saving them for the very tail end of the line, so people interested in the G1 Headmasters would be obligated to stay with Titans Return until the end.
>>6060228
Personally I'm just skipping every non-original headmaster, so I don't see the logic behind that.
>>6060233
It doesn't matter if it makes sense to the consumer or matches behavior, as long as the producer thinks it does.
>>6059931
My first taste of Combiner wars was Silverbolt whose hand snapped off as soon as I turned the joint. Returned it and got another which was A-okay. Other than that, probably Generations Rhinox whose knees and hips were buttery loose out of the box.
>want matching masterpiece seeker collection
>takara mp11 thundercracker has black nose cone=NOT ANIME ACCURATE
>hasbro mp11 thundercracker has more toy markings than other hasbro mp's=DOES NOT MATCH WITH OTHERS
>hasbro never released the mp03 thundercracker redeco and jumped straight to mp11=NO MATCHING MP03 HASBRO SEEKERS
>there may not even be a hasbro mp11 skywarp redeco
>and the nose cone will drive collectors insane since the purple cone is a mexican variant but would better match current hasbro versions despite the cone being black is 100% toy accuracy
>the ONLY way for a matching mp seeker set is infinite wallet rape and buy the mp03 TAKARA seekers
>and even then starscream has a semi real life color pattern while his buddies are straight up black and blue
L-Least the coneheads matches with each other
>>6060258
Sounds like you are too serious about toy robots
Worst QC I had on a figure (not counting the tragedy of early-wave TR Skullcruncher) was T30 Waspinator. Right out of the box his hips were a mess that didn't wanna stand properly.
Any of you guys like the altmodes series?
>>6060259
You have no idea the pain there is when you have actual ocd and are a seeker fan, it hurts, in many, many ways, let alone worrying about qc from the ever degrading mold.
I want off this train anonbut between takara ans hasbro I'm utterly fucked
>>6060259
At least I'm serious about something.
You. Stupid. Cuck.
>>6060097
>>6060258
I'd recommend getting the Takara MP11 and finding a decent paintmatch for the nosecone.
>>6060271
Woops, i didn't use any Construct-Bots in that one.
>>6060067
The others were so much worse.
>>6060270
Serious is what makes you raise others. A solitary predator just eats when it is hungry and doesn't care which ones are offspring of its own, just eat.
>>6060258
Is this what real autism looks like?
>>6060274
>fires this gun
>remains of corpse and user meet halfway across the world traveling in opposite directions
>>6060290
No, that looks more like obsessive-compulsive disorder.
>>6060266
I have Megs and he's great. Wish the Seekers were jets.
What's the consensus about this guy ? Is he a good g1 megs ?
>>6060303
So G1 he's covered in shitty stickers.
>>6060303
Skipped leg day proportions, shitty unpainted grey plastic and foil stickers that practically fall off in the package
>>6060278
I can't be the only one that thinks the little nig on the far right looks awesome. Like he's about to come at you 80mph and punch you in the dick
>>6060303
He's a better toy than Galvatron. But he's not perfect.
Stickers and lack of paint aside, he's fun to transform and play with; but that's very subjective.
>>6060301
Aren't they? They're stubby jets with wheels.
>>6060274
Mother of god...
>>6060266
They haven't been moving on my asian shelves even with the buy-one-get-one promotion. Probably because the same shelves stock Q Transformers.
>>6060326
It's a pretty good mold, yeah. The deco is just pretty terrible.
There's no way in hell that mold isn't getting turned in a Blitzwing later on though so if you think it looks like a fun toy it might be better to just wait and see what else hasbro or takara does with it.
>>6060164
He is my collection's Thrust.
I considered giving it VTOLs, but his altmode is too much of a turkey.
>>6060336
They've barely moved on my also Asian shelves, and a bunch of them are half off. We don't even get the QTFs!
(The half-off stickers are not on all of the boxes. I think they're specifically being put on the ones who aren't Optimus or Megatron.)
>>6060362
Do you think that Octane is going to be as shitty as Optimus Is?
>>6060365
If you think it's shitty, sure.
Personally I think the truck mode looks fine but the plane mode is the weak one. And theres always a weak mode with any multi-form bot.
>>6060373
omg Topspin.
>>6060373
That Skyshadow actually looks breddy gud
>mfw Topspin confirmed
Does anyone has more pictures of Broadside tho?
>>6060391
Have you seen the official renders yet? http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/10/06/nycc-2016-official-transformers-titans-return-images-326035
>>6060373
Fuck, does anyone have my up-to-wave-4 checklist? I'm not on my regular machine tonight.
>>6060022
I wish his feet and legs were rounded like the fuselage of the jet instead of angular and with human toes.
Other than that he's amazing.
>>6060395
>It's all going to be foil stickers
killllllllllll meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>6060022
I want to like Breakaway but there's too much going on in his body and his silhouette is hard to make out.
From the wrong angles I can't figure out where his head is and where the hell his torso stops
>>6060395
Yeah I have, I think he looks breddy gud.
but i was wondering if there were some in-hand leaked images.
>>6060413
Hasbro fucking up toys ain't news. I know it sucks, but it's a matter of time until we get better repros or something of the like.
If you're brave enough you can make you own paint apps.
Is Twinferno's titan master half cool as he looks like in the renders?
>>6060373
Is Topsin actually a new mold?
>>6060429
I guarantee that the face detail will be impossible to make out on the actual toy if that's what you're asking
>>6060429
Hes okay
>>6060435
looks like he might share tooling with Hardhead. The midsection in particular
>>6060373
Sweet mother of god he looks way better now that he isn't posed like a fucking nutcracker.
This line is going to end me.
>>6060440
Does Twinferno have any QC issues I should know about? Thinking of picking him up because dragon transformers are my jam
>>6060453
pew pew
buy me
pew pew
>>6060453
He's solid in hand. It's the design choices that are questionable.
>>6060413
Hope the chinese oversize the fuck out of him like they did with DOTM Megs.
>>6060373
I hope we get Twin Twist too, I could always use more drill tanks.
>>6060453
Oh, the guns are really hard to fit into the hands. Enough to stress the plastic after one try. I'd say the figure looks better with the guns on his back permanently any way though.
>>6060478
Holy shit, that would be around eight feet long. That is, if you use the CW Aerialbots as the point of comparison (since Broadside comes with tiny Aerialbots).
>>6060479
If you swap the Headmasters of Topspin and Twintwist, who is which now?
>>6059607
>>No MP in sight
Pretty sure they said they were looking at making him along with a 2.0 of Megatron and MP Combaticons.
Well Megatron is on his way now so hopefully Galvatron shows up soon.
>>6060490
They are still Topspin and Twintwist. Their consciousness is in their larger body while the head is a different organism.
>>6060258
The MP seeker mold is garbage.
>>6060454
Would if I could Twinferno.
Would if I could....
>>6060490
>>6060453
I like dragons too but this JUST looks better in both modes than the g1-accurate TR toy.
Unrelated to literally anything, but...
I think FoC Kickback is severely underrated. The alt mode may be just a little messy, but it's serviceable. If you shave just a little on his legs you can actually collapse them a little better in insect mode and imo it makes a world of difference. Bot mode is fantastic. Awesome ankles, cool shoulder pincers, integrated weapons, really nice hands. He has a lot personality and his transformation scheme is clever and complicated.
So how's that new Highbrow toy?
Based american family deliverers brainstorm
>>6060538
I've always wanted one but he sat just outside of how much I'm willing to pay.
>>6060479
Knowing Warden, he'll be a Titan Master.
>>6060535
There's a good chance the RID one will cost more than the 9.88 Walmart deluxe though.
>>6060552
...if it is even brought in at all to your local stores with the movie toys coming out.
>>6060563
Shh, don't jinx it. I want that new Bludgeon.
>>6060563
Came here to say this.
>>6060565
His name is Blastwave
Meaning he is Shockblast and Soundblaster at the same time
>>6060539
Pretty nice, but his head, like Scourge's, is a bobble head when you move him around.
>>6059931
Titans return as a whole
>>6060578
It's getting redecoed into a fully-fledged Bludgeon later on. This is hasbro's scheme now; Put out the repaints first to build hype for the character the mold is meant for.
>>6060584
But he has Bludgeon's color scheme already. Unless it is Bludgeon with Banzai-tron's colors.
>>6060588
>>6060588
Blastwave has Bludgeon's inner robot color scheme, Bludgeon has his pretender shell colors to make him look more immediately like that RotF toy that has effectively been retconned into a classics/generations version.
>>6060543
Same.
I wanted to pose it kicking shit and looking cool but I could never bring myself to pay full price for it just for that.
>>6060593
Huh.
>>6060595
Even weirder, Blastwave is an Autobot, so you have two skeleton samurai robot tanks walking around and both are completely different dudes.
>>6060601
Unless Blastwave is Bludegon's future self, reformed from his original ways after discovering religion and seeking to atone for his sins.
>>6060605
Bludgeon is already religious. Just, ya know, the dark stuff. Chaos Trinity and all that.
>>6060538
Wut. That toy is one of the absolute worst I own. The Balljoints aren't scaled for the feet right so one is cracked and the other just falls off all the time. Plus the altmode is an abomination. Bot mode looks fine but it can't even stand up since it has no feet.
It's honestly worse than Prime Airachnid.
>>6060454
[sound of weapon ports cracking]
Just some friendly advice: Sand the round gun pegs down when you get him. They've gotta be almost a millimeter too large.
>>6060538
he has great amount of detail on him for a deluxe.
>>6060373
>Topspin coming out right as I was considering tracking down the third party ones
Thank you based toy company, I will give you currency in exchange for these products.
>>6060538
>If you shave just a little on his legs you can actually collapse them a little better in insect mode
Could you elaborate? Staring at my Kickback right now and would like to try out what you're describing, if it improves the figure.
>>6060643
The 3P ones are long out of print too, so you probably wouldn't have found'em. And yeah, I'm happy we're gonna be getting official new ones myself, as I'm slowly managing to piece together a Wrecker team.
>>6060651
Ironfist was well past his 15 minutes of fame when I managed to get him for >$30, though I wouldn't expect that kind of luck twice. With Topspin and Twintwist, the only Wreckers I'd be missing would be Impactor, Rack'nRuin, and Broadside until I buy him.
Well, plus the Last Stand Wreckers, but I won't hold my breath for a non-exclusive Pyro or Rotorstorm. DOTM Guzzle works well enough for the group though.
>>6060658
>DOTM Guzzle works well enough for the group though.
He would be great if not for all those holes.
>>6060662
>not liking trypophobia Guzzle
I'd jump at a Generations version, but lacking that I'm fine with the weird little guy. I was alright with DOTM Powerglide too before CW hit, so maybe I'm more forgiving than some.
>>6060668
Nah, he's cool. I was just taking the piss out of people who get triggered by such stupid things. I would like a Generations version also. But not one hampered by a stupid gimmick.
>>6060649
You see on the purple part of the hinge where there's a little raised part that stops it from bending too far that way? If you shave that down you extend the silver part farther out which helps the blatant bot feet go in further. Not great, but better. I turn the bot feet around so the purple spike goes between the front toes.
>>6060619
>It's honestly worse than Prime Airachnid.
That's pretty obvious hyperbole. That is one of the worst figures ever conceived. I don't know what you're talking about with his feet either.
>>6060680
This part here?
>>6060278
brr-icy, the sloth of the Transformers fans
>>6060683
At least Prime Arachnid doesn't break itself and has two complete modes.
>>6060707
>implying such retarded shit
Vicky and Fruticus on sale on Hasbro toyshop.com
Use promo code HOLIDAY16 for additional $10 off. Although with Vicky you need another $.01 for it to be valid.
>>6060702
Cause he's so slow?
>>6060723
Maybe he likes rocky road.
>>6060722
The cheapest product in the whole site was a MLP figure that was 1.44. Guess I'll donate it or something.
>>6060722
I just want Computron goddamnit
>>6060733
Bought the Takara one for 139 with shipping included. No regrets.
I'll have to skip Baldigus since I already own too many combiners and bought 2 UW sets already.
>>6060722
What are the odds that nobody wants G2 Bruticus and I'll be able to snag him for a ridiculously cheap price early next year? G2 Onslaught is the only part of any Bruticus I had as a kid and the paintjob already compelled me to get FoC Bruticus a few years ago, now I'd like a version that sucks less.
Managed to get Victorion last week for that sale price though, wasn't even planning on getting her but for $50 she's hard to pass up. In-hand, I'm happiest with Pyra Magna and surprisingly the copter twins.
>>6060741
Probably high,at least should go down another $20. I doubt we will ever see anything like the $30 combiner sale ever again.
>>6060741
Depends. He might not sell out immediately since people could be waiting for the set to go down to 30, but it might sell out immediately when it does, so you'll have to keep watching it like a hawk to snag it.
>>6060499
>Rebirth Nebulon tech
>not using superior Headmasters Master tech
Ew.
>>6060689
Yep. Like I said, it helps a little. Not great, but a small improvement.
>>6060741
You can get it for 42. Isn't that good enough?
>>6060762
I prefer the US cartoon version of Headmasters. Having to share your body with a possibly willful little bastard wearing your skull like an Iron Man suit has more story potential than "tiny transformer running around in a transformer mecha body".
Plus the original cartoon Zarak voice was fucking great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_2MC4HQjU
>>6060766
cheapest I'm seeing is $59 with the promo code, where are you seeing $42? That would probably be low enough for me, depending on shipping.
>>6060773
Shipping was free, added a 1 dollar MLP toy, and got the 10 discount, so it went down to 42.
>>6060776
Still only seeing him get marked down to $60 after the code, added a $10 Wheelie and the order total is $69.99. Think I'll wait, already past my budget this month anyway.
>>6060783
How much are they charging you for shipping?
>>6060776
Vicky is reduced to 49.99, Fruiticus is reduced to 69.99
>>6060792
Ah, that's what was confusing me, I already got her at that price last week and thought I might snag Bruticus in his 90s deco for that rate too.
>>6060768
Nah, IDW shows tiny transformer in a transformer mecha body is way more interesting
Just imagine, any transformer character you love could secretly be a tiny ugly green robot waiting to burst out from inside them like a baby xenomorph
>>6060795
He was at 50 yesterday. Guess that was one day only.
>>6060762
>Being a weeb
>>6060552
You act like the $10 is gonna stay for much longer.
>>6060824
According to walmart computers that's the price till February
>>6060827
That's not much longer and RID toys seem to be slower than the CHUG line.
>>6060838
Last year combticons were glutting shelves by January
Wave 3 TRs will be no diffrent.
>>6060797
IDW actually did the original version of headmasters from the cartoon. Just Scorponok hasn't been used in a while since then.
Man, I don't mind Minimus Ambus at all but fucking hell is the gimmick on CW Magnus annoying?
Where do you even store the little faggot in vehicle mode?
>>6060866
You don't. You just let him ride Mad Max style.
>>6060866
In the cab, you dummy.
>>6060857
>shitposting on /tfg/?
>that's a paddlen
Hasbros masterpiece Bluestreak. His ankles have this part that attaches the feet to the rest of the body, one left and one right, and mine came with two left ones, so because of this the vehicle mode will never be flush on the back, unless I either sand that part very throughout or I buy a KO or another copy of the mold and replace it the part myself.
>>6060880
If I had a paddle for him to hold I'd totally do that. All I have is a baseball bat tho' and it's way too big even for FortMax.
>>6060768
It's a stupid premise, why any bot would willingly do it is ridiculous, Two minds having to decide what to do would make you worse, not better, and it also contradicts the issue of why combiners have slower processing.
>>6059931
Takara's Cyrus Breakdown. never been so hyped for a toy only to have all my dreams crushed. I really wanted the figure, but the one I got ended up having a QC problem in his arm preventing it from properly transforming.
>>6060866
Not where he should be that's for sure, it's terrible design.
Victorion vs Megatronia fight to the death where Rust Dust manages to be the tipping point by sacrificing herself to save the others when?
>>6060911
From what I understand, both of them basically just become the same being for the most part. The bot and the partner have their individual quirks, but ultimately DO have minds similar enough to have improved processing power between the two of them since they come to the same conclusions, as opposed to Combiners, who tend to have five or six vastly different bots merging together with "KILL THESE ASSHOLES" being the only agreement.
I almost want to get Fort Max just for the novelty of having what is basically a two foot tall baby to look after and take care of.
>>6060924
Didn't they deliberately design minibus to not be able to store in the cab for some bafflingly stupid reason?
>>6060931
>Megatronia lands a killing blow with a sword to Vicky's chest
>doesn't penetrate deep enough, Rust Dust takes the brunt of the blow and fulfills her function as armor
>>6060941
He can't store in the cab because that's where the normal Magnus head goes. Minimus rests on top of the upper scaffold of the trailer.
If you can find a better place to put it without it sticking out like a sore thumb, please share for the customizers out there.
>>6060937
That's pretty much why I got him.
>>6060944
It just needed to be designed differently than it was.
>>6060440
>Hagen no Zista is dead
gee, thanks for the reminder
>>6060592
So, this line is called "combiners"...what do they combine with?
>>6060976
Each other, right? I thought this line was doing the Energon combiner-pants thing again, though I haven't been paying any attention to them at all.
>>6060979
It's sort of like how not every single figure in the Combiner Wars line was a combiner component, but with the ratio swapped.
Some of the combination involves minicon stuff, some of it is a hybrid of Energon powerlinx and 1 step transformation.
>>6060962
That's easy to say, but the challenge was "Find a place to put the head where it doesn't stick out."
>>6061004
Well, rather than have the head fold inward, have it go outward and fit into the back of the cab, that's the simplest change that could be made.
did anyone else laugh at this part?
I was getting into the trailer, trying to take it seriously, then fucking OP just goes floating by in space having gotten his shit stomped by something and I couldn't help but bust out laughing.
I just love the fucking immediate juxtaposition of this shot compared to the end of the last film where he flies off into space like he's gonna punch out the quintessons/unicron or whatever and then bam. piece of scrap floating through space
>>6059931
CW Onslaught, the connecting ports at the tips of his fists (to connect in alt mode), the peg is a standard cylinder, but the hole is clearly a hexagon shape, too small to even force the peg in
>How can third party even compete?
>Hasblow am i right?
>>6061150
Are we getting a Thunderwing out of this mold, or just Overlord?
Truth to be tell, is there people excite about him?
>>6061158
For sky shadow I preffer the deluxe mold.
But I'm eager to see how Overlord turns out.
>>6061158
It looks pretty neat
I can't figure out how the hell the transformation works between any of the modes, which is something that hasn't happened since a bayformer toy
>>6061158
>is there people excite about him
I'm trying to tell myself I don't need him, the deluxe is good. But I'm very excited for Overlord.
>>6061158
The jet part is amazing but the tank is pretty meh. Is there a better combined vehicle mode than just docking the jet on the tank?
>>6061158
I'm honestly pretty excited for it. Overlord more so, but Skyshadow is looking pretty dope.
>>6060937
that toy forces you to think about fatherhood
>>6061152
Oh fuck, is the tip using fucking rubber?
>>6060435
With those lower legs I'm wondering if he's a pretool for Kup.
>>6060733
>the technobots throwing a father's day party for grimlock
Oh, my heart.
>>6061110
I think it was a nice reference to the 86' movie where Megatron was floating around in space.
>>6061150
Damn, I was gonna skip out on this but it's looking too fucking good.
>>6061155
There's been no word of a Thunderwing remold, but I think it's pretty safe to assume. I just hope it won't be a Hascon exclusive or some shit.
>>6061318
>I just hope it won't be a Hascon exclusive or some shit.
nb4 2017 SDCC exclusive, packaged with 3 other figures no one gives a shit about, $220 base price before you factor in scalping fucks, and Hasbro Toy Shop doesn't get it in either.
>>6061328
If anyone is going to get that treatment it's Voyager Scourge/Nemesis Prime. I swear hell will freeze over before we get a mainline release of him.
>>6061328
There were bot and con clone sets listed on the leak that has become almost 100% accurate.
>>6061353
Nemesis prime is not geewun
>>6060233
>>Being this unable to think outside the box.
Youre cheating yourself out of some pretty nice figures.
>>6061377
>$0.03 has been deposited into your Hasbro shill account!
literally every non headmaster character they've done as a headmaster in this line is just a worse version of a character they've already released years ago
>>6060228
There have been rumors of a Mindwipe overhaul as Swoop using Ptero's head.
If the rumor of Voyager Snapdragon pans out, they could use Clobber to make Grimlock
>>6061380
Even as underwhelming as TR Hot Rod is, he's much better than all of his previous deluxes.
>>6060490
Neither. Then theyre Twinspin and Toptwist
>>6060499
Im just going to go by the Japanese explanation where the bodies are mech suits and the heads are the actual robots.
What are your names for big Groove and little Groove?
>>6060937
>having what is basically a two foot tall baby to look after and take care of.
Why don't you just ask your parents? They're taking care of a 5foot+ baby who still plays with toys.
>>6061150
>How can third party even compete?
By not having giant hollow gaps where a forearm is supposed to be, wrist swivels, and not being a repaint of overlord for starters.
>>6061394
>little Groove
I gave mine red horns and repurposed him as Prowl. So he's like Animated Prowl in Geewun colors. Geewunanimated Prowl.
>Legend Kickback
The right shoulder doesn't click into the torso peg hole and I though it is because the peg is too big.
I thin down the peg but it still won't click.
I ended up took the whole thing apart and finally found out the section on the back where a pole that pushes and held the purple rotating shoulder piece when in robot mode is too long. It presses the purple piece too hard for the peg to stay in position.
I cut that down and the shoulder will not be pushed out now, but due to cutting down the peg (the first fix), the shoulder is still all floppy. And for some reason the right shoulder doesn't like to stay close to the torso like the left side.
This thing costs me like $12
Bravo Hasbro
>>6061450
I had the exact same issue on my Kickback. It's the same peg on the back piece being too long. Guess it's more widespread than I thought.
If you want it lock, add material to areas circled, that edge on the chest piece and a small nub on the rotating purple piece.
I used applied thin layers of super glue using a toothpick then hardened it instantly using baking soda, tested the fit, repeated until it felt right.
>>6061458
Thanks for the info
Currently i am using nail polish.
It is kinda sticky in itself so kinda holds unless you pull some big movement.
Still that does not fix the problem why the purple piece does not flush to the torso like the left side.
On another note from what i heard a lot people have issue with voy megatron's right arm that does not collapse proper.
Hasbro needs to get it qc better.
They are getting NECA tier
>>6060702
But a sloth with a pretty sweet camera.
>>6060911
In the comic it was a desperate attempt at peace with a terrified alien race by war-weary Autobots who would do anything to escape battle. And humanoids who found themselves facing Decepticons. It just turned out pretty well. Eventually the two personalities would blend into each other though.
>>6061150
Okay, he's got. No questions.
>>6061359
Maybe they'll do original toy colors for retail Thunderwing and comic colors for a SDCC Thunderwing. Or vice versa
>>6061367
But there ARE Nemesis Prime redecos of G1 themed Optimus toys
>>6061394
Big Groove is Groove.
Little Groove is his more conservative daughter Cruiser. (Which was Groove's pre-production name)
>>6060944
Bottom trailer, behind the cab. Where the G1 Magnus chest piece would have gone.
>>6060911
In the comics Prime and Hi-Q ended up bonded; when Prime died fighting Unicron, Hi-Q started having his mind meld into Prime's and he effectively became Prime in a tiny humanoid alien body. Then Primus reconstructed his body to be an Action Master and the book ended.
>>6060844
No way dude, those guys were all humans, Rebirth is totally different
>>6061458
So you have a pic with the proper robot mode (shoulder ixed version?
>>6061554
I know, and Hi-Q was a powermaster so it's slightly different, but the reason for that happening was equally as contrived as the creation of the headmasters.
still not seeing the benefit of it without it sounding like whoever pitched the original idea.
>>6061150
ANKLE TILTS
>>6061588
Yes, we're hyped for basic articulation that we haven't gotten from HasTak in forever aside from a few cases. Problem? Would you rather there not be ankle tilts?
>>6061556
It just looks like the normal robot mode in the renders/prototypes, etc.
>>6061380
>shitposting a thread about toys
Was it worth the (you)?
>Titans return Leader, Voy, Deluxe, Legend wave 3 are all out
>No news on whether Takara will use those new mold or not
I wonder what is going no
>>6061594
Yeah I think it's reasonable to be glad we're getting articulation back after a line where fucking wrist swivels on a deluxe were a fucking privileged.
Seeing finger articulation in god bomber is really cool and I hope it means Hastak might be willing to put fingers in their toys again
>>6061630
Indeed, senpai.
>>6061618
Give them time, we got god bomber and leo convoy coming.
Next lot would have to be twinferno, hot rod, triggerhappy and breakaway...although the later I HOPE they do more than a new head retool and a redeco, even a new chest panel or car hood would be nice.
Dunno about the leaders, we will get those though mark my words, no doubt japan would want 6 shot and they'll scream for blood dealing with the crappy sticker details
>>6061444
You mean kinda' like how RTS Lugnut is Geewunimatedmovieverse?
>picking up my inferno tomorrow
>find an upload of people having fun with his water effect
Anyone else having fun with inferno?
Also what are people's thoughts between the current 3 uses of the mold, inferno is more recognizable, grapple clearly has more panel details (the shins!) and a color palette that breaks him out of the sea of red people envision autobots seem to be, then artfire who's colors are the most varied but the fact he's a hardly known character with less accessories and what *looks* like stickers that may be pre-applied though I do hope they're tampo prints.
So, thoughts on the guy, I just love the ladder magic, shit like this is the icing on the cake
>>6061648
Why not, lightfoot was a decent character in super god master force (god I hate typing that series name).
Otherwise what other deluxe mold can they churn out seeing how they're matching what hasbro has done just slower?
>>6061648
>>6061651
Why do I keep saying breakaway over getaway, what in the fuck am I doing
>>6061645
I'm probably gonna end up getting all three
I want a firetruck MP, Grapple looks like a really good use of the mold and while I almost always try to avoid buying literal who's (especially when they're expensive) Artfire looks really damn good with the tacky G1 toy details which I hope to god are tampos and the targetmaster is enough of a difference on top of that to make me want him.
I've said it before but if Inferno/Grapple/Artfire is their new standard for "shameless" MP repaints then my wallet is fucked. I don't like buying repaints unless there's enough extra to make it worth it and god damn did they put a lot of effort into all three of these guys to make them stand out on their own.
>>6061656
Grapple amazes me, more than a a simple retool with new shins, hew head (the head horns differ betwen him and inferno's alt) and other details, I kinda wish I didn't get both for while I know inferno better grapple is just pure amazement.
I might try for artfire, but like roadrage it'll be during sales, gonna use the speculative bullcrap as my beacon of hope
>>6061658
Could work, the shoulder wings would still be incorrectly homaged and the engine block (by cannon) is meant to be on his back but a good head could work, but that mold apart from the spoiler visibility clearly works best for hotrod
>>6061660
Artfire definitely comes across as clearance bait to me too. I want to get him but probaby not right away because of it
>>6061665
If he sells out I'll be happy as they got all they could out of the mold, though a mp roadhauler would be an amusing turn of events, the mold is a bit big to be a convention exclusive which would work for the obscure nature of him, though the possibility of him being an online exclusive much like the mp coneheads is also a chance.
Now that I think about it, I'm starting to feel they aren't branching out the retools far enough in my opinion
Dear anons, I asked before but I'll ask again.
>is cw liokaiser any good?
From the consensus last time, its ok, but imperfect, so let me add another factor
>is he good at 30%off rrp?
I'll give the pricing here for you
>$180aud (australian dollar, rrp)
>down to $126aud
And I can knock off a smaller portion using 5% off gift cards, the only hassle is I MUST wake up early that day as its between 9am-1pm on a weekend.
I do want to see takara's take, but at this price, and the molds apart from deathzackguar look alright to me.
So in short
>super cheap uber discount for a fast food toy
>or wait on takara's take for pure wallet destruction for what would be little different but still essentially same product
As much as stuff like the technobots and their UW take amaze me liokaiser isn't straight up laziness (since they all at least have new heads), its just a case of could be better.
So please, talk me out of this, or tell me this is good, note that its a tad cheaper than buying individual limbs at regular rrp ($25 per limb and $50 for the voyager) and also beats out the discount victorion (which was $150aud at the time of release).
>>6061685
Sure.
>>6061685
Power of the Primes has him listed
if you can wait one year we might see a better version. If you wait closer to two it'll be a Takara version.
>>6061685
Got mine for 130 AUD plus shipping from a taiwan ebay seller, all the bots have new tooling and lots of paint, some unecesary like Walgreens Brainstorm, so they all feel "premium" go for it, if Takara releases an UW set you can display them as Gestalt and individual bots at the same time, that's what I would do.
>>6061744
Sounds like a swell idea, the fact I'm not even paying shipping (myers has a store near me) makes it nicer than your deal.
BTW I assume that taiwan ebay seller is that toy story world store since their prices are usually good like that, anything special to note from their service, been thinking of a few things from them
>>6061685
DON'T DO IT OR I'LL SHOOT
>>6061748
w-why
(Hi again, is he still not worth it, you always seem to have fun with yours in your pictures)
>>6061750
Yeah but I have fun with Rescue bots so it isn't a particularly good indicator.
>>6061758
Don't we all?
I have looked into them, I'm aware of their qc issues from apparent mold degradation (I also watched peugh's review, dat neck on his jallliozaras was bad) but its not the worst I've seen.
I mean I have a g2 bruticus, though I must ask how gold is um...the gold tank dude, I worry about gps
>>6061747
>that taiwan ebay seller is that toy story world store
Yep, nothing noteworthy, well, the description said the set was unboxed, but I received the sealed box, they shipped in time, no issues.
>>6061685
Its either that or wait for takara. Or buy the tfc one for 500+
>>6061827
>Or buy the tfc one for 500+
Not worth $500. Wait for either a V2 that fixes it's problems, or the one some other company is making.
>>6061827
>buy the tfc one
>>6061847
Shiet.
Thank God I saw TJOmega's review of RTS Perceptor.
I was close to make it a habit out of half-assedly watching his videos while shitposting even if I hate his style of reviewing but watching him whine about the transformation made retch.
Honestly, the only thing he has going for him is not being a literal paid shill like every other reviewer but his taste is just as shit as that seen on these threads.
>>6061847
When are we going to get a 3P combiner that isn't a piece of shit that explodes if you slam a door on the other side of the street?
>>6061865
Feral Rex
Gravity Builder
Quantron
Poseidon
>>6060022
awesome but I have the red thrust? dirge? whatever he got recoloured and renamed to
would post pics but just moved and it is 6 hours away
>>6061868
It's Thrust.
Dirge is the one with a cool, clean altmode but shit arrms.
>>6061886
Dirge had spinning nipples.
>>6061895
>minus Quantron, because thats an ugly piece of shit that does have breakage issues.
To each their own, I like him and have had no breakage issues
>>6060154
Oh snap. I have both of those (Cloud Shocky and Constuct-A-Shocky)!
To the collection!!
>>6061685
He works well enough for what they're trying to represent.
I tend to stand Deathasaurus on his hindlegs so he looks more like his G1 self and less like Sky Lynx.
>>6061950
I had to carve some out of the gun hand to run the tube under it (which is plugged into the 5mm port on his wrist), but otherwise I think it just fit right over his original hand. The feet ankle parts are clipped to the bars between his original silver "toes". They can all stay on during transformation, but the feet just kind of rest against the copter tail out the back.
>>6061962
I like to transform Dezarus like this...
>>6061990
...because he reminds of this.
>>6060702
I used to play WFC with him
>>6061990
If the Steeljaw-Bumblebee set goes on clearance, I'll pick it up for all the weapons and pod.
>>6061990
Same here, I changed the combiner head to homage the early Liokaiser design, don't know hw long it will take to customize silverbolt as Leozack.
>>6061847
oh hey that's bobbys. I never touch anything on his shelves, but i fuck with the stuff on his warhammer table all the time. he lets me play around with everything he gets before he does his reviews
>>6059231
What is tomato Soundwave?
>>6061847
Thats why i left it as the last option, cw liokaiser is pretty damn good if you pop the gold collar off and rotate the legs for anime accuracy. Put some pe feet/hands on him and you're golden.
>>6061865
>>6062088
Thats the Gen Toy one, right?
How does the Not-Scavenger leg hold up? When I first saw it, I felt like the fucking shovel and arm bits were going to snap right off due to it looking like all the weight is going to go on those parts, and 3P combiners are often ridiculously heavy for their size.
>>6062091
Yeah. GT Gravity Builder.
If you plop him around like a literal child pretending to make him walk (I did this) then the arms will eventually try to untab themselves from the chest. It takes time and force to do it though so he holds a dynamic pose for months just fine in my case.
He's fucking heavy but poses surprisingly well. He has two knee's, ankle tilts, waist swivel, and huge feet to keep him balanced.
No case of the splits either. I had to corner turn the hip screws to actually loosen the hips. They come a bit too tight actually.
>>6061995
>>6062074
Someone swap a rotf Soundwave with 3 rotten tomatoes
Walmart accepted the return
Kek
>>6062245
Wow, bravo John. That certainly tops HFTD Battle Blades Optimus.
>>6062245
This is a bad joke.
>>6062245
>>6062245
Bravo, Bayformers lends itself to another masterpiece in the art of looking like fucking shit.
>>6062273
>another masterpiece in the art of looking like fucking shit.
Considering Titans Return, they didn't have a far ladder to climb.
>>6061150
...by having a waste swivel and probably a decent wingspan I would assume.
>>6062292
Also not having a forced Headmaster gimmick.
>>6062330
>>6061394
Big Groove is Groove and little Groove is Beat, both as a synonym for groove and in reference to how cops walk a "beat".
>>6062297
you can keep the head in for transformation, quit bitching. I will agree, waist rotation would be nice on leaders.
>>6062365
>quit bitching
Be a cold day in hell before that happens.
>>6061895
What's the deal with Quantron? I wanted him for ages but not if he's going to break.
>>6062365
>you can keep the head in for transformation
If that's the new standard this will be my favorite TF line. My only issue with it has been the partsforming.
>>6062412
Some of his transformations for the individual bots are kind of shitty, and it's possible to break'em like that.
Also he's super thin from the side. And ugly as fuck from the front, but thats just my opinion.
>>6062415
>partsforming
It's no different than their weapons.
>>6062415
>whole line of headmasters
>partsforming
It's not partsforming if thats the intended gimmick. G1 Starscream? Thats partsforming. The motherfucker is all partsforming.
Headmasters aren't partsforming because the whole gimmick is the head comes off and turns into a tiny robot. Overlord isn't partsforming either, because he's supposed to split into two halves.
Next you'll fucking say a combiner is partsforming because you've gotta turn the other bots into the limbs, you fucking retard.
>>6062419
>It's not partsforming if thats the intended gimmick.
>Headmasters aren't partsforming because the whole gimmick is the head comes off and turns into a tiny robot.
It's still Partsforming. It's just justifiable. Ita not as bad as Starscream, but it's still lazy.
>Overlord isn't partsforming either, because he's supposed to split into two halves.
If you have to split the tank into two unjoined pieces and add on shins like that Turd one, then yeah, that's partsforming.
>Next you'll fucking say a combiner is partsforming because you've gotta turn the other bots into the limbs
It is if the hands and feet are separate pieces you have to add on.
>you fucking retard.
wow rude
>>6061645
I've wanted Inferno for a while, so I pre-ordered him as a knee-jerk reaction. Then as soon as Grapple was shown off, I cancelled my order for Inferno and decided to just get Grapple, since he has much better details in both modes, and the last thing I need is another red Autobot. If I had Red Alert I might be more tempted, but... meh.
>then artfire who's colors are the most varied but the fact he's a hardly known character
See, this is a big selling point for me. I love "literally who" characters for some reason. There's this kind of appeal to them since they're usually untainted by the neckbeard fandom or shitty '80s writing. Exhaust and Loudpedal became some of my most favorite MPs to date. Somehow, them having no official portrayal of their character gives them so much more.
>with fewer accessories
He comes with a motherfucking targetmaster. Nightstick looks like fun on a bun. He alone is worth more than all the alternate faces or cartoon-accurate bumpers in the world. All that crap usually just gets left in a box or drawer with me anyway. But give me a little dude that transforms into a gun? Hours of fun.
I do kind of hope the details are stickers, only because I find some of them a bit gaudy, and I bet ocean designs will put out a much nicer looking decal set anyway, then I can just put on the ones I like.
>remember to check a local retail chain for titans return stuff after a disorderly week of doing nothing
>mfw 40% discount but only wave 2 deluxes
Fucking hell. I don't want anything from it.
>>6062429
>Pure_Autism.jpg
Hooray for head options!
Also, thank god my eyes can't zoom in like my camera, that awful mask paint on Hasbro's could drive me crazy.
>>6062447
what does that picture look like?
>>6062452
Find a mirror and see for yourself.
>>6062447
Stop acting high and mighty over people being bothered about characters being Headmasters now when they weren't before because of a line mandated gimmick. Plenty of people want Galvatron's head to fold inside the head rather than come off and do something totally unrelated to the character. He found Headmasters and Targetmasters repulsive.
>>6062449
>dislike Hasbro's shitty mask paint
>do custom paint job to make eyes look shitty too.
ayy
>>6062452
>>6062458
>>6062466
Go back to Rik Alvarez's basement, Aaron.
>>6062469
Wouldn't Alvarez be the one in the basement, since he was the literal nobody that slithered his way onto the brand by producing those terrible books in the early 2000's? Like the Kato Kaelin of Transformers.
>>6062459
It is the same. Remove from body and then place on/vehicle.
>>6062458
different anon here, but I was more bothered by the combiners gimmick being mandated on everything, since it gave us way more repaints than usual, and often affected the individual figures' quality and articulation in a way that headmasters don't.
>>6062466
>making the eyes the right color is shitty
It's not that you changed the color. It's that you did a piss-poor job of it. Also "right" is subjective. While I do prefer the character's IDW incarnation, I think the blue eyes make his color scheme more vibrant.
>>6061394
I stripped the autobot insignia and say he's gasket police type.
>>6062478
>It is the same. Remove from body and then place on/vehicle.
no it's not. Because I can remove the weapon from both and I still have a solid robot or vehicle. Remove the head and I just have a headless robot. and of course the weapon has to fucking partsform because it's a separate thing that anyone can hold. It's not literally a part of the transformer's body.
>>6062479
You literally can't see anything with your own eyes. You need a camera to zoom in and notice imperfections in a lot of paint jobs, official or not.
Also, having to remove a character's head just because of a line mandate is a perfect example of a figure's quality being affected. All figures should have at least had an alternate way to transform, leaving the head attached if they were going to force this on non-Headmasters. Some of these guys look really fucking good, and are not known guys so it's not likely they'll get another figure any time soon, leaving their "definitive" modern toy stuck with this irrelevant gimmick,
>>6062496
But you perform the same actions. You're just afraid you'll lose it.
>it's a separate thing that anyone can hold
Just like the titan masters and the other TR figures.
>>6062432
I hope that Walmart discount lasts till wave 3 arrives since I only want 2 deluxes from that wave.
>>6061394
Tiny Groove hangs out with Rook, so he takes the name Bishop.
>>6062577
>tfw no chess combiner
You break my heart.
>>6062632
>Another girl torso robot
KYS
>>6062646
There are no girl robots or boy robots, only robots.
Also, make the King a headmaster.
>>6062654
>Literally called he on the back of be package
>>6062669
>the back of the package also says they have powers and personalities
>>6062687
Exactly.
>>6062551
It's not the same thing. Wanting a self contained transformation, there's nothing wrong with that. Especially when it comes to characters that never featured this ability.
Stop trying to make this into a big argument. Some don't mind, others do. There's nothing wrong with preferring a character portrayed more in line with their source material in a classic line, dude.
Making regular Transformers characters is like turning Krillin or Yamcha into super saiyan as toys. You know, it's "just for fun" and doesn't affect anything. Right? It's just a gimmick, stop being autistic about it.
>>6062704
Then don't act like it's wrong that someone wants to not go by what the package says.
>mfw Overlord won't have two titan masters, one resembling his G1 face and the other his IDW, to better homage his original powermaster gimmick
>mfw the jet cockpit or tank cockpit will always have to be empty
>mfw it would be so easy
>>6062729
...what?
>>6062729
If you're in favor of not wanting to go by what the package says (which is that they're Headmasters), then you're in favor of not making formerly not Headmaster guys into Headmasters.
>>6062777
You're not even on the right argument. Read.
Help me out, guys.
I got CW Magnus and it's pretty good, if a little boring, but one of the blue calf panels (the ones with the wheels) doesn't assemble properly unless I force it a little until it clicks loudly.
What is happening? Can I fix it?
>>6062783
Ok, so what do you mean when you say "wanting to not go by what the package says"? Because that's how I read that.
>>6062787
Look at what was being replied to. Guy was butthurt that someone was calling their a toy a she instead of a he like it says on the package.
>>6062762
Pretty sure someone already has shapeways kits ready.
>>6062795
Those look like shit.
>>6062801
Then pay attention to what you're replying to.
shitposting in shitpost thread
>>6062245
What if that's the only toy in the movie line?
>>6062895
Kind of weird there's been no mention of the Leader version. You'd think that would get more promotion... unless this movie line has no leader class.
>>6062940
It's just weird because it looks awful and theyre acting like it's right up there with ROTF leader prime.
>>6062952
Honestly, aside from the shield looking awful despite getting it right last time, he doesn't look awful, he just uses terrible greys, and unfitting white.
What the hell is going on with the colors these days? I know they had better shade's that work better, but they seem reluctant on using them lately.
This is a big Alpha Bravo
>>6062959
Probably costs one fraction of a hundreth of a cent more per 500 units, so thats too costly.
>>6062991
FUCK scalpers scalped all the Getaways
>>6062993
The worst on of the wave.
>>6062993
>scalpers
>so retarded they think they can make money off Getaway
>>6062991
For you.
>>6062993
>Hasbro
>putting the 'bro' in Hasbro by shortpacking the shittiest figure in the wave that no one wants in favor of packing the good figures more
>>6062993
I've noticed the same shit in my area, all the Getaways gone and everything else left, wtf? It took me about 4 stores to finally find one, and he was hiding behind some Ghostbusters shit.
>>6062993
>Both Rodimus and Hyper Rodimus Prime hit the shelves on the same day
Fuggggg got no money for this.
>>6062762
Just get Overboard with it.
>>6063023
Pretty damn accurate, I know its supposed to be overkill but the fave screams overlord
>>6062334
See? how the fuck is that black shadow?
>>6063019
Not Transformers, make it's own thread if you wish to discuss it.
How much pressure do I have to apply to untab Twinferno's arms when taking him from robot to dragon mode? They don't see to come out no matter how hard I pull, and I feel like if I pull any harder than I've tried he's gonna break
>>6063206
A lot. It can be pretty scary.
>>6063213
Any idea where I should pull from? I'm guessing not the shoulders as I could snap the mushroom joints they're on?
>>6061863
It is a bad transformation though.
>>6063219
Meh, I usually just pull from behind the robot shoulders. The red bits.
>>6063213
>>6063243
So after like, half an hour of very carefully whittling his various tabs down to fit better, he is a very cool figure QC issues aside.
I love the black translucent wings and his Headmaster is very stylish, even in his Titan Master mode. I assume he's a reference to someone in the Japanese fiction, seeing as he appears to be a tiger-man with an eyepatch
>>6063291
I hope his two buddies get the deluxe treatment as well, some time soon. They'd look amazingly bonkers together.
>>6063308
Grotusque would just be a retool of Skullcruncher, but I have no idea how they'd do Repugnus
>muh advice