Transformers General

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b a s e d t a k a r a

>>5420197
I'm not a fan of Vortex's blades, unless they can fold up or something, they seem to get in the way of his bot mode.

Blastoff looks cool, but I'd love to see better pictures of him. Can't say that I regret getting the Hasbro Blastoff because I'm not seeing that big of a difference in the profile in arm mode (which is how he'll forever stay). I'm also fairly sure we'll eventually get a US release of the figure (as well as Groove), so if my OCD gets too bad about it, I'll just get that.

>>5420197
New molds, retooled Vortex blades and yet Brawl keept his floppy waist design.

>>5420210
They might have tweaked the tolerances on Brawl's waist or used different materials.

>>5420197
fucking finally. preorders when?

>>5420197
I'm more concerned about the different coloration of the hand/feet guns each of the components have.

>>5420197
Let’s take Jesus off the dashboard.
Got enough on his mind. When will this come out? That blastoff is looking good!
Vortex should at least have detachable rotor blades. I'm glad I waited for this!

>>5420219
Already up on TF Source. I'd wait for the Japanese sites though.

>>5420197
Yep, I'm buying this. Though I think I'll use Blast Off as a leg and Brawl as an arm.

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>>5420197

I'll have to buy this.

>>5420267
They did that engine block remold to fuck anyone who has the armor set.

>>5420267
How many times has this piece of shit mold been reused for Hotrod? Like 4 or 5 times?

If Hasbro has such a boner for the character, why not just make a new Hotrod or Rodimus mold?

>>5420197
Wish there was a better picture of that robot mode for Blast Off. Looks a little funky.

But I'll be displaying Brut in combined mode anyway so it hardly matters to me.

So now it's just a case of waiting to see when/if Takara will do Victorion, Computron and Liokaiser. That's it, right?

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>>5420280

I wouldn't be surprised if the toy designers hate Rodimus.

>>5420197
The shipping is going to kill me.

>>5420210
>yet Brawl keept his floppy waist design
How do you know that?

Question, how do you know that from that small'ass tiny pic? how?

>>5420319
My dad works at takara.
He showed me clear pics.

>>5420280
You'd think that since the comic he stars in is so successful they'd make a new mold, but no, reuse of an almost 10-year old toy that aged like soggy bread or head swap with a scout class to plug into a combiner.

Then again, why would we want one? Generations is over and if Hasbro did make a new Hot Rod, he'd be a hollow mess with blocky limbs and subpar articulation.

Will we ever see the glory days of 2010 again?

>>5420308
I feel like Hasbro thinks of him as the red headed step child.

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>>5420349

everyone still blames him for Optimus's death.

it hurts being a fan of him.

>>5420357
Then he shouldn't have gotten him killed.

Blast off has double jointed elbows and a new gun(?).

Kind of wish onslaught got a double pair of guns so that Bructicus could have the back cannons and the rifle, but maybe the set will come with a Shockwave for his Legend buddy.

>>5420197
>retail release rather than a mall one
Fuck yeah!

I'm really glad I haven't bothered picking up any of the Combaticons yet. Still might get Slingblast to build Galvatronus or something though.

>>5420210
The whole design seems to be very tolerance-based according to various reports of owners of the Hasbro mold. Some peoples' can't clip in well, others' can.

Blast Off's chest looks kinda weird, honestly. But I have a weakness for shuttleformers.

Also don't like how low Vortex's blades sit, but I'm sure it could be fixed with modding, and he's a sell for me if he's toon colors rather than the rainbow colors Hasbro used on their deco.

>>5420197
Why does Bruticus have a black head?

>>5420267

Well, I'm hyped, because I don't own a Hot Rod yet. Long time collectors can bitch all they want, this is good for people just starting out to nab old favorites that are impossible to fucking get ahold of for a reasonable price.

That HR mold is $50-70 just by itself for the older versions if you're looking for new and not some used POS kept in someones pet and smoke infested shithole.

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>>5420374

Optimus was fucking holding back from finishing off Megatron.

a minute later Megatron would have shot him.

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>>5420357
>>5420374

It was that and that time He all but threw the Matrix at Zombie Optimus.

Alright, Hot Rod is Back, Let's party!

>>5420390
He also has mismatched hands and feet. Hopefully they'll change it to be G1 before release.

>>5420398
Hot Rod is dead.
he died last year.

>>5420391
Do you want the two Junkions? You might have some luck offloading them on here.

>>5420390
Better question is why is Swindle gray? That makes no sense at all. And Brawl's colors are completely off (way to go for toon accuracy Takara).

At least Onslaught and Vortex's colors are spot on. Can't really tell if Blastoff is the right shade of brown though, because the picture is too grainy. I like how the purple on his chest pops, though.

>>5420197
How long until color reveal?

>>5420280
>How many times has this piece of shit mold been reused for Hotrod?

- 2006 original release
- 2009(?) two pack with Cyclonus
- 2011(?) clear blue version Takara release with Kup and Scrap Heap
- This new pack

Off the top of my head. I don't think there are any more, especially if we're talking about repaints. There MIGHT have been a straight-up re-release that I paid no attention to since I own all these goddamn re-releases for characters HR comes packaged with.

Plot twist: I don't even like Hot Rod.

>>5420413
You forgot the Takara release with the chrome spoiler. It was also used for SG Hot Rod and RiD Side Burn.

>>5420413
Also:
>henkei release
>2012 takara united release

>>5420275
Is this the 2012 remold that gave it a 5mm port for it to use Arms Microns?

>>5420390
It's the Hasbro version with Blast Of and Vortex parts slapped on.

>>5420420
>>5420423
Ah yes. I wasn't really importing toys back then so it definitely was off my radar.

Interesting looking back how most of the re-releases were packaged with army builders.

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>>5420267

I wonder how long before a re-releases of the Junkion and Protector add on Armors are announced ?

>>5420406
Well Bruticus' head should be white so it's pretty easy to tell that it's wrong in a b&w photo dipshit.

>>5420197
This pisses me off, why couldn't hasbro have just done this, now it'll cost so much more to get the one of worth.

>>5420308
The guy who writes that comic certainly does, with how bad of a parody of his character he is.

>>5420502
It'll probably cost just as much s Hasbro's, really, with maybe $20more shipping. The yen is weak.

>>5420349
They just don't know what to do with the guy. His whole character is based on being the successor to Optimus and that's never going to permanently happen.

>>5420516
I hope my local online shops will have him, otherwise the import tax will be a bitch.

>>5420508
As opposed to what?
G1 cartoon he was a whining retard that rarely rose to the occasion
UK comic he was always needing help and tended to inadvertently make bad shit happen all the time.
Wasn't really in the US comic

>>5420405

Yes, I definitely want them. I don't have a Wreckgar or "generic" Junkion either.

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>>5420280

>>5420523
>Tells a guy watching his homeworld blown up that Cybertron is a better place

Shuttle looks bad as an arm, probably because of the empty gap

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>>5420519
>don't know what to do with him

Give him his own team to lead. Like, maybe, the 86 movie gang? In the same way the other bots naturally seem to seperate into certain groups?

Pic related to writers not knowing what to do with Hot Rod.

>>5420539
>Give him his own team to lead.
He was captain of a ship for 2 years
Still is technically

>>5420275
"What armor set? We never released an armor set." -Hasbro execs

>>5420519
>>5420539
No one here is painting a good alternative as to how he should be written
Hell he had his own team in the comics for a while now.

>>5420539
They've figured out what to do already, keep him away from prime so they both get a spotlight

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>>5420529
>mfw this doesn't even include the TFCC G2 Starscream and the upcoming Pre Beast Wars Terrorsaur reptain

>>5419885
Yes, there are actually people that prefer different things.

>"I'm happy to settle with mediocrity"
That's not how opinions work. YOU think Take-Off is mediocre. But someone that wants it probably wouldn't consider it mediocre.

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>>5420465
U rustled?

>>5420552
>upcoming Pre Beast Wars Terrorsaur reptain

Has there been a reveal?

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>>5420563
Box art, at least.

I'm unpacking toys, and I had this moment where I was transforming a few things (Universe Stormcloud, Human Alliance Wreckers, Stratosphere, etc), and I just hit with this wave of apathy. Like there's a ton of toys I have that I just really don't care about or have fun with, and they've spent the better part of a year in storage... I might not even want them.

I'm unsure if I'll be culling things down, or even how I'll get rid of them when I do. Most of the things I want to part with nobody wants to buy (like DotM product or Universe Depth Charge), so... ever get like this, /toy/?

>>5420391
I got mine for like $40 MISB and it was the Henkei Henkei version then again I knew the seller.

>>5420567
Honestly just sell them as a lot and be done with it
I have done such many times with no regrets
granted I don't know your money situation or how hard it is to ship things where you live so my advice might not be great

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>>5420563
This is pretty obviously Terrorsaur using Funpub's go-to jet mold.

Why they didn't use the superior FoC seeker mold is beyond me. It makes zero sense to use not only use such an old/dated mold, but to have a damn F-16 flying around on an alien planet; especially when there's a better, more Cybertronian deluxe jet out there.

>>5420576
That's Funpub for you.

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>>5420567

I would say if you NEED storage for figures, you have too many. Keep your collection to like, one to two versions of characters you like, and don't fall prey to "OOH I WANT IT MALIBU STACY HAS A NEW HAT" syndrome.

>>5420576
>Superior
>FoC seeker

The only thing the FoC seeker is is a FoCing piece of shit.

>>5420576
>It makes zero sense to use not only use such an old/dated mold
What mold do you think they used? Certainly not the retired one.

>>5420581
Suck my completionist dick.

>>5420581
Eh, it wasn't really "oh shit no room" storage but more "moving house and can't unpack them until life improves".

Don't get me wrong, there's TONS of things. But I think it's time to thin the herd.

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>>5420197
>mfw I fucking called it from the start

Granted, at this point it was pretty predictable with an established pattern by Takrara, but still.

>>5420582
Well, a tetrajet with an actually articulated bot mode would work a hell of a lot better than a random earth F-16 flying around a futuristic alien world.

>>5420586

Then offload'em on eBay, I guess. I'm sure a lot of people hit that point.

>>5420583
>What mold do you think they used? Certainly not the retired one.
Are you saying the seeker mold has been retired? When exactly did that happen, because FP used it for G2 Starscream less than a year ago, dude.

>>5420593
As of TFSS 3.0, Funpub claimed that they are retiring the Classics seeker mold. 2016 Terrorsaur will most likely be a CW Skydive repaint.

>>5420582
>Better articulation
>Not completely knackered by overuse
>More fitting as a Cybertronian version of the character

>>5420602
Maybe, but based on the image, it looks an awful lot like the Classics Seeker mold.

Still makes no sense at all to use modern day vehicles as alt modes for Beast Wars characters; especially with all the FoC, Cybertron, and Energon molds to pick from.

>>5420576
>>5420582
>>5420583
I know this isn't a popular opinion but wouldn't a CW jet limb make more sense?

>>5420607
people of the clusually want to buy what is current brand sadly

>>5420582
>FoCing piece of shit

That made me laugh harder than it should have.

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>>5420622
>Modern Earth based harrier jet
>Flying around the skies of advanced robotic alien society millions of years in the future

Seems legit

>>5420633
That's Predacus right arm in the box set anyway
And they have a earth sports car as well.
Seriously are you just shitposting?

>>5420640
Not shitposting. I guess I should clarify that I think the entire set looks like shit and makes zero sense. The colors are wrong (aside from Ravage) and the alt modes are ridiculous. Them making Terrorsaur into a harrier jet/F16 is just rubbing salt into the wound.

>>5420633
Anon you are trying way to hard.
The FoC molds make no sense either
It has a cockpit
They shouldn't have those
But again these are(supposed to be) fun toys that shouldn't be taken to the level you are trying too.

>>5420647
>They shouldn't have those
Citation needed

>>5420647
>The FoC molds make no sense either
>It has a cockpit
Don't almost all alt modes, cybertronian or not, have cockpits?

Even the Cybertron and Energon molds all had cockpits.

>>5420646
In all fairness Fun Pub was in a lose/lose
Celebrating BWs without putting emphases on CW would have hurt them. CWs is selling crazy good and already many of the club limbs preorders are sold out at places saying they will get them. Untied warriors is importing well, over all CW as a brand is working.
So I feel they were stuck at a losing position.
Personally I think the wisest would have been to celebrate BW but make all the toys CW guys such as the Wrecker Combiner Ruination or one inspired from the Micro Combiners.
Trying to work BW in CW was not so smart but this is Funpub...

>>5420657
That's not telling me why they should. FoC they hadn't even left the planets atmosphere/system.
>>5420659
jets yes
I think at least 4 molds didn't have clear cockpits but that could always be argued
cars and what not no many of them either out right didn't or it could be interpreted as but wasn't clearly made as one .

>>5420666
>BW but make all the toys CW guys such as the Wrecker Combiner Ruination or one inspired from the Micro Combiners.

Fuck, I would have bought a CW Wrecker Ruination in a heart beat!

Also, evil trips m8

>>5420674
>That's not telling me why they should. FoC they hadn't even left the planets atmosphere/system.

Weren't Transformers made by the Quintessons to be transportation machines? Wouldn't it make sense to have a cockpit if a Quintesson decided he needed to hitch a ride?

>>5420666
Even "proto-Beast Wars" isn't a bad thing.

But they completely fucked everything up when they went with Red Light District Council.

>>5420679
Roxannicus Council you don't gotta put on the red light.

I don't think that jet terrorsaur is from classics starscream. Wasn't the mold axed for good?

Is it true that there's one or two assholes responsible for keeping the prices for BW Scorponok stupidly high?

>>5420676
I honestly thought that's what they were going to do originally because it was both the easiest and most fan approved idea.

>>5420678
Not in WfC/FoC
Their God made them

>>5420576
F15 :)

>>5420706
So God made them capable of transporting cargo so they would be more efficient beings

>>5420701
No, and jet fuel can melt steel beams

>>5420666
wouldn't a middle of the road approach be Have the box set be CW with a attendee toys be Pred Ravage, and Tarantulus limbs?

>>5420711
Then we are right back to what we started and could say God made them to look like earth modes because he foresaw them arriving there
To do metal gymnastics for one but not the other is really telling of your bias

>>5420711
you are not transporting much cargo in that tiny cockpit. Would hold maybe two people

>>5420717
Huh?

>>5420576
well terrosaur on cybertron would still be after the great war and after starscream and the seekers popularized the body type
who knows, maybe terrosaur used to be a seeker who joined beast megatron when they stole the golden disc

>>5420724
The one guys that bitching post earth war bots shouldn't look like earth modes wants him to have a FoC mold that should still be "wrong" for his standards

>>5420734
It's worth noting that was part of the club bike tranulus alt choice was based off old earth records

>>5420747
You people are confusing. I'll just go back to looking for a job so I can buy toys

>>5420759
If you can't follow a thread post I doubt you will succeed at finding good paying work

>>5420763
Bad day at school?

>>5420763
Maybe I can sweep floors or something. I'm pretty good at that.

So is the jet Terroraur going to be one of the subscription figures?

>>5420773
Ah yes because I was honestly mean to someone I must be a kid

>>5420780
I guess he be an attendee figure like they always do

>>5420782
Nothing wrong with that, just find a different way to channel your frustrations.

>>5420780
No one knows. Might be a custom class or "freebie" even

>>5420785
I'd personally prefer that so I'm not tempted to get the subscription again. I did it once, didn't feel it was worth it since then.

>>5420780
Probably the attendee figure. I don't think we've seen the bonus 4 or 5 figures yet either

>>5420721

Given some bots are pretty small, and others have huge alt modes, it isn't much of a stretch to think those cockpits could be for the tinier bots to hitch a ride in, or be able to take control of the bigger bots for possibly finer movement at times.

Reminder that Predacus isn't a BW character, he's a Beast Wars Uprising character.

>>5420835
Reminder only autistic twits like Walky and Razorsaw care.

What are some good toys from Armada and Energon? In Armada I know of:
>tidal wave
>demolishor
>bendy prime
>unicron
>overload
>sideways

>>5420851
Sharkticon is fun.

>>5420576
Nope. It's a red herring. Or artistic interpretation. Definitely not the Classics mold, they confirmed they weren't using it anymore. It's going to be a much newer jet mold.

>>5420633
>millions of years in the future

Beast Wars only took place 300 years after G1, moron.

>>5420884
CW Air Raid, perhaps? It's got the f-16 thrusters.

>>5420851

Armada Red Alert is good IMO.

>>5420889
You'll have to wait and see. It's a jet from the last two years. Also, people are wrong about the character.

>>5420898
Who is it then?

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>>5420898
>jet from the last two years
Is Prime Beast Hunters Starscream too old?

>>5420917
Shit that's actually a really good mold for Terrorsaur.

>>5420917
It looks like a jet version Knock Out.

>>5420917
I already said you guys are wrong about the character.

>>5420913
If I could have said, I would have. Just think about one of the figures in this set, who it would make an obvious and easy repaint into, the jet on the box would make an established pair up with that figure.

>>5420917

Sadly they'll probably say yes.

and yet give us more Classics seekers. I don't believe they'll end that mold.

>>5420943
>I already said you guys are wrong about the character.

Then just tell us and stop acting retarded
or are you fearful you are wrong?

>>5420898
That would only leave Inferno and TM2 Megatron
Maybe TM rattrap
And frankly any of those choices as a jet are stupid as fuck.

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Um

>>5420996
If that's the case that will be overprice as fuck and lord knows how much they will fuck up the head

>>5420996
See >>5420981 is what Im talking about
who ever it is it wont look right

>>5420996
Last year of funpub. Thank the gods

>>5421004
I think with the right paint and head it could look decent as a TM2 Megs. It's certainly big and imposing enough.

Inferno could fly, and I love that character, but him as a giant jet just sounds silly. I'll get it for sure if it's him, but it's still silly.

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>>5420996
>leddit
>figment pillow pet
>ponies

>>5421017
Not gonna mock me for Tumblr?

Come on, anon. That's the lowest of low-hanging fruit and you missed it.

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>>5421017
If Anon wants to fuck horses, let him fuck horses.

>>5421024
Horses don't understand consent! Don't you understand that that's rape?!!?

>>5421017
>being this mad at someone who buys Hasbro products

traitor

>giving a shit about how imaginary shit in pieces of paper idw writes

lol make your own teams you nerds

>>5420971
Feel free to screen cap this and post it during Botcon weekend. I'm not telling because I'm not allowed to, I'm sorry my insider person's friendship upsets you so much.

>>5420981
How are any of those obvious choices as repaints in this set as I said here? >>5420943

>>5420586
Anon I know your struggle. I'm dyin to get my old unicron trilogy toys from storage, but I don't have a stable enough place to keep them unpacked

>>5421006
what?

>>5421094
You don't know anything. Quit trying.

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>>5420917
It's basically terrorsaur already

>>5421094
So do you shitpost for fun or is it how you cope with your life?

>>5421094
My dad works at nintendo too

>>5421231
Look at that dreamy hunk. He should've gotten the bad boy with a heart of gold role that Dinobot got.

>>5421094
screen cap that you give no better answer than it's not Terrorsaur?


work on your shitposting walky

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>>5421094
listen if you don't have the balls to say it's laser beak to an anonymous image I seriously doubt you have friends.
Seriously here's the reply you wanted now either get better material or off yourself and make the world a better place.

>>5421094
Just do it.

>>5421246
When you get down to it almost every question in the universe can be answered with "it's not Terrorsaur"

>>5421317
>Who do you think will win the 2016 presidential election
>not Terrorsaur
>you can screencap this and post it on election day

>>5421094
Well here's a workaround, don't tell us who it is, just tell us everyone it isn't.

>>5420566
Boxset:
We all know it already

Free Figure:
Waspinator from CW Legends Powerglide with Minibot Cyberbee

Other
Optimus Primal from CW Optimus Prime
Megatron from CW Onslaught

Rhinox from CW Rook
Cheetor from CW Breakdown

Army Builder:
Terrorsaur, BW Laserbeak and Fractyl from CW Aerialbot mold

Golden Ticket Figure:
Buzzsaw from CW Legends Powerglide

Custom Class:
Transmetal Tigatron from Boxset Ravage

Bye

>>5421385
Yeah Pete Sinclair confirmed the Golden Ticket thing yesterday

>>5421328
Now I know who I'm writing in. Thanks, anon.

>>5421385
This year's Botcon is going to make me broke

>>5421385
* citation needed

>>5421406
Don't worry about it, I gave you the same list last year for 2015 and it was flawless

Enjoy Botcon 2016

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>>5421411
>Enjoy Botcon
Ha!

>>5421417
Shut up and buy all our product, Hasbro/Takara it does not matter, we get your money in the end.

>>5421411
*citation needed
**I can claim I said something as anon also

>>5421385
That's actually pretty solid

I think I read the Army Builder somewhere before and the GT figure was confirmed on a podcast

>>5421421
You don't have to believe me, but come April, just remember these words.

>>5421385
>Transmetal Tigatron from Boxset Ravage

They already said the custom class toy is a new head not on any of the other toys.

>>5421427
>I'm anon claiming I'm another anon and making things up using other people's rumors
:)

>>5421431
Exactly and? Tigatron head. All white and teal body.

>>5421385
Botcon Facebook just confirmed this list

It's not insider leaks, it's just news that is here early.

>>5421385
Nope. They mentioned at least two non-CW molds and a redeco of a Takara-only retool (TM2 redeco of Legends Blackarachnia?)

>>5421436
Why spend money on making another cat head? Doesn't add up.

Well just registered for Botcon.

Might be the last year, but at least I will be there for the ending of it

>>5421411
> /tfg/
> enjoying things

>>5421399
So save money and don't buy it.

>>5421450
Botcon 2006 Beast Wars set is now over a grand, I ain't making that mistake again

>>5421448
Fools and their money, I swear to Ga.

>try fixing the misassembly on takara blackarachnia
>get to the rivets on the spider legs
fuck. what do i do? i tried slowly prying the parts out but it just roughed up the plastic near it.

>>5421458
You swear to Georgia?

Botcon 2016 is being run by Hasbro anyhow

https://sendvid.com/yfrreabt

>>5421482
He's placing his faith in Gallium.
As we all should.

>>5421486
I laughed.

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I think I just figured out what the big ticket item at Botcon will be.

If that head is still around that is.

>>5421509
This makes the most sense.
And Goddamnit that'll piss me off of being the 2nd BW Megatron exclusive that I wouldn't be able to get.

Do you actually have to go to botcon to get a set or do they offer an online method? Obviously everyone can't make it.

>>5421554
You deserve not to get it

You are just a germ of a Transformers fan that does not matter because of the internal fear and laziness you are as a person

Enjoy being alone.

>>5421560
You can get the boxset via the Iacon Package

But the toys at the show itself good luck

>>5421509
>head on the original tooling
>so it won't look like funpub's shit
Neat.

>>5421509
>>5421567
Hasbro is doing Botcon this year not Fun Publication so it's very possible

>>5421565
Oh so I'd be able to get the worst of it? Yeah no.

Thanks though.

>>5421569
>Hasbro is doing Botcon this year not Fun Publication

>citation needed

>>5421583
They have increased presence and have tightened the reigns after last years shitshow plus they have to step in sometime fun pub is gone after this

>>5421590
This year is the transition.

After this year, you won't see any of Fun Publication anymore

Hasbro will be a majority of the show from toys to fiction

>>5421509
That head was leaked like two years ago. I wonder if it was ever planned for a retail release.

>>5421385
What does Golden Ticket mean? Buzzsaw was one of the few BW figures I had as a kid so he holds a special place in my heart. eBay will have him if nothing else, right?

>>5421699
You drop another wad of cash to go to the front of the line.

>>5421561
Time to go outside anon. We're talking about plastic toys.

>>5421687
I remember some fag from TFW gloating about how he got that prototype.

>>5421699
Drop 300 dollars on top off the 400 for the primus package

>>5421742
How do people justify this for toys?

>>5421762
LIMITED RUN PREMIUM COLLECTORS' ITEMS FOR MATURE ADULTS SUCH AS MYSELF

>>5420508
Oooh boy here we go

How salty does it make you that IDW is the real G1 continuity now?

>>5421762
The same way people justify beer or cigarettes or hookers.

>>5420647
They see through the cockpit.

Cybertronians were designed to be used by the Quintessons

>>5421779
All totally different.

>>5421808
Suuuure. Except those you got nothing left over to sell if you wanted to.

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Has anyone here fixed their Blackarachnia? How did you take out the rivets holding the spider legs on?

>>5421815
>>5421815
You can get money for beer bottles.

Not a lot, but still

>>5421787
I think you missed the post that stated WfC/FoC history was they were made by Primus and the Quintess were not a part of their creation process

>>5421815
You must have issues if you think any of those are comparable to each other. Especially to toys.

>>5421833
Recreational expenditures man.

>>5421769
>IDW is the real G1 continuity now

Careful not to fall for it.

>>5421815
>not selling the organs out of your dead hookers

>>5421815
The issue you are failing at here is understanding the monetary value and secondary market.
You cant really invest in a secondary market with beer, cigarettes or hookers because two are consumables and one is a service.
I get your saying people blow money on questionable things but that doesn't justify the actions. People normally don't blow 30 times over the value on a single beer or pack of cigs. And most people don't spend 30 times the going rate of a hooker, (at that rate you be cheaper getting a mail order bride)
And most people would find blowing money on toys questionable but blowing 30 times the retail amount on a toy because it's "rare" is very questionable. Your money? Absolutely but that doesn't magically bar you from criticisms of how wasteful it is.
And hell any time I hear defenses like "everything is wasteful" or "it's all pointless" I wonder if they are just trying to block out that voice telling them they just overspent or fuck up their living arrangements for plastic that likely cost 1/15th the value paid.

>>5421839
The fact you are comparing toys to terms that imply drug induce stimuli really shows how gone you are.

>>5421857
Car collector pays out the ass for car 10 years later sells for twice the price

>>5421877
Toys don't work like that. They have a very shaky market that demands finding the buyer willing to pay the cost and usually it still doesn't justify the time and energy put into it. Most of the time working minimum wage will equate to better profits than trying to flip toys on the secondhand market.
On top of that toys crash in value once open and if you are not then planning to fly/drive in, to lose hours both in travel time and in lines just to get something you may flip for double what you paid in cash in isn't a good strategy.
Really it's why Funpub is getting phased out, their market isn't really working at getting the fans on board and makes most roll their eyes at what they are getting for the cost.


Also any car collector will tell you they have standers on costs they will pay if
there intent is to flip, they are not careless and blow millions on a car model because it's paint coat is 'rare'.

>>5421742
wait, what the hell would the grand cost for everything be then?
1200?
Holy shit that is stupid.

>>5421912
Wait a fucking minute, I think I'm seeing things but I think the chest piece is detachable. You know what that would mean?

>>5421912
Gotta admit... kinda dumpy and awkward looking. that huge chest just kinda doesn't work for me.

Alt mode's good though.

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It's time for LOTS AND LOTS OF JETS AND PLANES

>>5421921
it's not
look at OP it's still attach
the chest is the shuttles faceplate before the cone area

>>5421912
He's definitely interesting looking.

>>5421932
That Slingshots going to look cool for all the 3 years you'll own him.

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>>5421912
I dunno man, I mean sure it's a 100% new mold in this line for a limb but damn if that doesn't look like ass.
So fucking bottom heavy.

>>5421912
The chest and feet are killing me
I get it show accurate but damn man it looks bad.

>>5421932
Feels very "ENTEREXCITINGMISSIONNAME SPIDER-MAN" 90s toy. I dig it.

As someone who doesn't have superion, is it worth it?

>>5421939
I agree about the chest, but I like the booster feet. Kind of neat.

>>5421912
I was afraid of this
Blast offs animation model was so derpy I knew as a UW limb it would lead to awkward proportions

>>5421937
Strangely, it looks way more brown-green in person. To my eyes at least. Like tarnished gold or something. Def doesn't look like old G1/G2/BW plastic.

>>5421940
The yellow parts are a big worry for lasting quality

>>5421950
Why? Is it like GPS?

>>5421912
I really don't remember Blastoff looking that shitty on the cartoon.

The alt mode is good, the head sculpt is good...but that bot mode is...questionable.

Think I'll stick with the Hasbro version.

>>5421912
This is either the best thing ever or complete shit.
I have no idea.

>>5421952
very much so
GPS usually happens for any shade of yellow short of bright crayon yellow.
They try and try and swear every time they have it figured out but every mold has degraded so far due to the yellow/gold plastics it's made of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcjAUN5Ssj8
Look at BW Randy he's close to the same shade.
expect between 2 and 4 years for this to be CWG2 Slingshot's fate

>>5421958
2D vs 3D sadly

>>5421967
Well Damn. I was excited for a minute there.

>>5421912
>the feet
>the barrel chest
>the shoulders

T-Takara w-wins a-again! ;_;

>>5421940
Don't mind Sky Is Falling Anon >>5421950 since no one knows. But my guess is he is fine. He doesn't look similar to any old gold toys I've ever owned.

But your analysis is spot-on. I had many weird Spidey toys and G2 TFs as a kid, so I love this aesthetic. Superion is the best CW combiner, the colors are radical 2 the max, the price is good, and mine has really tight joints (way tighter than my original Aerialbots pre-floor polish) and overall great QC.

>>5421971
I'll second this.

Honestly, I don't see why people are so shocked to see Blastoff looks like shit. It's not like Takara Groove's bot mode was any good either. People are so stuck on worshiping any turd Takara shits out that they'll convince themselves that figures like Groove are better than Rook, and that this Blastoff is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

>>5421950
>>5421952
>>5421967
>he doesn't know that modern plastic is significantly less GPS prone

Flexible plastic cracking/disintegration is the new GPS.

>>5421952
>>5421967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuEzKeZcb1Q

Watch it break on camera

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>>5421912
>another limb guy that doesn't have the same port chest
>those cool thruster feet
>NOT A FUCKING JET

I like it

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>>5421985
see
>>5421967
he looks to be the same green/yellow shade
You can gamble it for sure but when we have molds all the way up to Revenge of the Fallen suffering it it's a safe bet you will wind up with a broken toy just because of time.

>>5421990
>they'll convince themselves that figures like Groove are better than Rook

Groove IS better than Rook. Rook is overrated as fuck just because
>muh hulk hands xD

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>>5421912
Uh, Any chance Fansproject can somehow blow up and rework their munitioner mold? I don't even care that it needs kibble to connect to the torso at least it'll look better than this thing.

>>5422003
I'm just telling you that it doesn't look like that in person. But whatever, anon. only time will tell.

>>5422004
>Groove IS better than Rook.

Not even the guy you're replying to, but if you honestly believe Groove is better than Rook you're fucking delusional.

>>5421912
Color pallet and placement are going to make or break this guy.

>>5421993
What counts as "Modern" Because we have up to 2009 of gold transformers that have suffered GPS

>>5421912
The only issue I have are the arms sticking out at the sides in vehicle mode, other than that he looks cool, but It seems I'm in the minority.

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>>5422004
Wait, you seriously think Groove is better than Rook?

I mean, Groove's alt mode is decent enough, but the bot mode looks like shit. Rook has ankle tilts, looks like a brawler, and has a top tier head sculpt. What's not to like about Rook?

>>5421993
right that's why red plastics are getting more stress marks
no way are corners being cut more not less

Seriously I doubt Hasbro is using good plastic on that when most CW limbs get stress marks stupid easy.

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Look at this sexy motherfucker. Goddamn the preorders can't come soon enough.

>>5422003
;_;7

>>5422038
Stress marks aren't GPS.

>>5422020
2010-present. Dreadwing and Skyquake suffer from it, many of the Japanese Prime toys and Legends BA will probably also suffer from it.

>>5422048
Well that's just Primal

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>>5422048
>alternate faceplates
>upright ape mode

oh baby

>>5422048
>Those elbows
Other than that bot mode looks great. Beast mode looks good sans all dem panels which admittedly are rather unavoidable. Though it makes me wonder, even though we all joked about that one awful fur-covered custom if there was some type of light fur material on the gorilla parts if they might have helped camouflage the seams.

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>>5421932

Damn, he's out already? I hate the G2 color schemes, but I'm glad you got what you wanted, Anon.

>>5421911
Thats why the early botcon sets are triple the value right? Im not talking about cars retard and if I bought an expensive high retail car in the 60's and waited 20 years I could flip it for quite a penny provided its in a nice condition

>>5422050
I was under the assumption GPS was solved.

I just bought a G2 Superion too, dammit.

>>5422017
Nope. One has translucent plastic, two non HFG weapons, and pinned wheels. Which one is it?

I'll give you a hint: it's not Rook

>>5422029
The bot mode looks fine. Rook's ankle tilts don't add much and I'd rather have legs that aren't freakishly hollow looking than ankle tilts.

I'd rather have a hippie motorcycle dude that the other members can ride over a brawler on a PROTECTobot team.

>>5422075
The closest thing to in-scale fur would be to flock it, but that won't last forever. In a couple decades it'll start to wear off.

Plus the in the show there was no fur. I mean, yes it was a limitation of the graphics, but still.

>>5422080
GPS is probably solved. Just don't be rough on Goldie.

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>>5421912
Yuck, that robot mode looks horrible in every way.

Well, I guess I'll just keep them in Bruticus mode.

>>5422048
This will be the first ever MP I pre-order. Does any of that text give a pre-order date?

>>5422110
>Well, I guess I'll just keep them in Bruticus mode.

>implying you weren't going to do that anyway

>>5422098

The problem with GPS is it doesn't matter if you're rough or not.

One sour far from a fruit fly 3 rooms away will see a GPS figure crack in half like something out of an anime cut by a katana folded 60 quintillion times.

>>5422088
>PROTECTobot team.
>he thinks that fighting isn't a form of protection

>>5422078
>Thats why the early botcon sets are triple the value right?
woo weee 600~1000 from something that cost 250 10 years ago and is selling at a rate of about twice a month(at best because the 05 and 08 sets has dived over the years)

>Im not talking about cars
>>5421877
>Car collector pays
If your a shitposter work on your martial
>if I bought an expensive high retail car in the 60's and waited 20 years I could flip it for quite a penny provided its in a nice condition
yes but you walk around what I showed which is the fact that the toy market doesn't work the same. People don't value toys on the same level. Most don't want old toys and the collector market that does is very niche in and of itself

What they do have in common though is you have to find that buyer otherwise you are just sitting on trash. At least with a car you can drive it and work on it without risking the value to any great deal.

I get it
You are proud you wasted 250+ and could flip it in 10 years to pay about the value of a month or two of rent. But that doesn't change that FunPubs market is really stupid collector or buyer a like to stay a float.
Hell look what happen to RID Scourge from the Club store. Takara made him too, better paint apps and price. You have completely fuck up your market when it's cheaper for you fans to buy over seas to get a better product.

>>5422120
peace and love is a better way to keep protection than police militarization

>>5422110
>>5422114
>people actually buy Transformers to leave them in one mode on a shelf

Why not buy a Turd Party? Or even better, a statue?

>>5422098
>GPS is probably solved.
Ive been hearing that for 5 years now
never once has it been the case.
> Just don't be rough on Goldie.
and I see you know little of the issue...

Gonna kek too hard if bruticus has a black head

>>5422124
Oh now we know you're just bullshitting.

>>5422129
no I'm not

groove is a better built and more fun toy.

>>5422123
>because the 05 and 08 sets has dived over the years
9 and 10 are dropping hard too
It's almost like comic books now where you have to flip the product in a couple of years or you just start losing money on it.

>>5422136
K

>>5422123
800 profit from a boxed set of non retail figures is a damn good flip but keep going wowee like the autist that you are and yes toy aftermarket works exactly the same as car aftermarket is the piece pristine? Chances are you can flip it for a good price to another collector especially if its an older piece, only difference with cars is instead of 10 years to flip ala a botcon set, it takes 20-30 and no I don't buy sets unless I know I can flip them. Go ahead and flip a retail combiner war item in 10 years and tell me the difference compared to the botcon set being flipped

>>5422123
>>5422138
And if it's anything like what happen when Hasbro got Marvel Legend rights over Toybiz it's almost ensured that after a couple years when Hasbro takes over the con most of the old botcon toys will drop pretty hard short of a few select charterers.

>>5422126
You can't play with it forever. Eventually it goes on the shelf for display.

>>5422145
>800 profit from a boxed set of non retail figures is a damn good flip
not when it takes 10 years to earn. You could have made the same amount working a desk job for a couple of months or less. Hell minimum wage in two months would ensure that. You think 10+ years waiting for that kind of growth is good?
>keep going wowee like the autist that you are
says the person who is trying to convince me flipping plastic toys for decades is a good investment of time.
>yes toy aftermarket works exactly the same as car aftermarket
You have never sold a car.
>instead of 10 years to flip ala a botcon set, it takes 20-30
again, you have never flip or dealt with the car market. I flip a 09 Honda fit for almost double the price in 2011 thanks to the high demand for fuel efficient cars. You have no god damn idea how crazy wild the car market works.

>Go ahead and flip a retail combiner war item in 10 years and tell me the difference compared to the botcon set being flipped
It works about the same
Major/desired characters go for about 3 more the msrp everything else floats close to msrp or double at best if it wasn't open.
Listen if you do it for fun whatever but to try and state with a straight face that it's worth the effort is laughable at best.

>>5422152
>can't play with it forever
Fucking normie kek

earlier this morning I decided to try an aim towards Takara's Defensor/Guardian

but then I discovered he's still prohibitively expensive.

>>5422152
>>5422183
we really need to work that into the start of the new general

>>5422145
>Go ahead and flip a retail combiner war item in 10 years and tell me the difference compared to the botcon set being flipped
I bought 10 wave 1 CW deluxe figures for $10 when they were on clearance and have sold 6 of them for $50+ each the last couple of months
that's 400% profits that didn't require me to go through funny games of a sign up sheet, drop an ass load of cash upfront, and wait years to get the same effect.

>>5422177
>not when it takes 10 years to earn

Jesus, you sound like the only thing he does is sit on it like mother hen, waiting for it to hatch. Buying and reselling collectables as part of your hobby in addition to, y'know, the whole goddamn rest of your life, getting an $800 flip on a single purchase is a good deal.

>>5422227
I have never said nor implied that.
I'm showing the ignorance of his stance on the subject. He kept comparing it to cars which works a lot faster and with better results
He try selling it like it was a good way to make money which again, it isn't.
and all of this started because someone was trying to justify blowing $300 bucks to get a rare $10 scout sized figure. Which was compared to drugs and prostitution, then to cars.

I really have no issue that people blow insane amounts on toys(otherwise why would I be here) it's more when they can't do it honestly I take issue.

>>5422048

>alt faceplates
yes
>arm gun
Yes
>swords
YES
>electronics
NOOOO

Hello 20% price increase for a function i'll only use less than 5 times, haven't seen you since MP Grimlock.

What if the Beast Wars guys had Megaman X kind of names?
>Boss Gorilla
>Demolishion Rattler
>Slash Tigra
>Freeze Falcon
>Tyrant Rexiod
>Buzz Waspnater
>Harlot Arachnidia
>Scissor Crabform

>>5421912
wow Blast Off you really let yourself go.

>>5422243

>Scissor Crabform
for some reason I thought Scopinok (I know it's Rampage) and the idea of a scorpion being called a crab would really fit with Megaman series

>>5422243
Idk. Ask /co/

>>5422247
What does /co/ have to do with furry robots?

>>5422250

You just answered your own question

>>5422255
Not really. Furry sounds like /trash/ and robots sounds like /m/.

>>5421912
Including shipping, Bruti is likely to cost me in the vicinity of 300 local dollars. Whether or not he's worth it will come down to overall Bruticus deco, as well as the decos of the others.

>>5422048
Do the electronics kill the chances for a mouth guard in robot mode?
I guess they would have shown it here if he had one.

>>5422276
At most it might hurt articulation with the head, but they may keep it all in the head.

Also the faceplate was only in the show for like 10 seconds. Probably not a major thought for them.

>>5422048
>no mace
Damn. Oh well. Still getting it.

>>5421912
earlier today I felt some pretty bad buyer's remorse for jumping the gun with Hasbro Blast Off

I don't feel it anymore, but I'll still look into third party options for his stupid head.

>>5422048
>smaller than Reborn
>bad proportions
>ugly elbows
>MP with gimmick
hahahano.jpg

>>5422304
Hasbro Blast Off is not a bad toy. His deco is easily that mold's best, and the mols itself is good apart from the shitty weapons integration.

It's just a shitty Blast Off. I call him Take Off and treat him like the 5th guy, like Rook and co.

>>5422304
I bought hasbro blast off for a generic limb / generic con, now I'm considering making hasbro bruticus... Guess I'll wait to see if I like the UW colors more and if I can find the white chest Onslaught

>>5422304
I wish Perfect Effect would announce a Bruticus add-on kit. New head, new vehicle mode shell and head for Blastoff and bigger guns for Onslaught's back.

>>5422340
The Arielbot molds as a whole I didn't like.

Hasbro's Blast Off has hips that are too tiny and I hate the fact his arms don't lock down in arm mode, but the only thing I find downright offensive about him is his head.

thankfully there's third party options for that.

>>5422342
they didn't make one for Defensor, I don't see why they'd make one for Bruticus.

>>5422336
What is wrong with his elbows? And what the fuck is reborn?

>>5422350
>What is wrong with his elbows?

The fact he doesn't have any, it's just a hinge joint and nothing to create an actual elbow, just emptyness.

>>5422355
Oh. They do look a bit odd, but it looks like it easily gets the job done.

>>5420413
Also a 3 pack with Cyclonus and Galvatron.

>>5422360
New thread

>>5422348
What was there to fix on Defensor? Besides the link up for Groove is pretty meh.

>>5422368
Not much really. Obviously the must have hands and feet for all of the combiners.

>>5422048
Please let this start the era of 3rd party BW figures.

>>5422241
Damn, didn't really want dark eyes either... was hoping they'd be able to pull off the glowing pupil look.

>>5422350
>And what the fuck is reborn?
What the fuck is Google?

>>5420943
> repainted from another mould in the set
> would go with someone else in the set

It's Laserbeak. Because Funpub are fucking autists who can't even make an entire year's worth of toys fit a fucking theme. Yes, there was a BW "Lazorbeak" and no, he wasn't these fucking colours

>>5422385
Please, shut up.

>>5422247
What does /co/ have to do with Beast Wars, cuckboi?

Why do you post this whenever anybody posts anything that isn't a toy press release? You realize there's more to Transformers than just that, right? You should really fuck off to collect 3A or something if you want contextless action dolls.

Speaking of which, has anybody caught up on the most recent IDW books? What do you think of them? For as popular as MTMTE is, I really think I might prefer RiD.

>>5421766
>Powered Convoy lives by this motto

>>5421921
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW PARTSFORMING!!!!!!!!!! Throw it in the trash, preorder cancelled, Hasbro superior!!!!

>>5422021
>The only issue I have are the arms sticking out at the sides in vehicle mode,
But it's okay when the Aerialbots do it, rite?

>>5422618
>BAAAAW, I'M AN IDIOT, BAAAWW

>>5422627
It's good that you can admit that and get the help you need.

>>5422243
>Sting Scorpos
>Spinner Raptronic
>Dash Cheetus

>>5422618
Partsforming is shit design you stupid nigger.

If you like partsforming you deserve a bullet to the head.

>>5422632
>the I don't get how greentext works meme XD

>>5422814
>If you like partsforming you deserve a bullet to the head.
Dude, holy shit. It's just a toy preference. Nothing's worth a bullet to anything, let along a toy and to the head.

Talk about hate. Dayum.