Is Generations Scourge a good toy, /tfg/? I own Cyclonus and wanna give him a buddy. His Generations design has really been growing on me, too. I like it way more than the space-boat thing from G1.
Cyclonus is a more solid figure, but scourge has a lot more articulation.
I'd like scourge a lot more, but facial hair on transformers has always been kind of weird to me. Except in animated. Maybe because they seemed more like people in costumes with their designs.
Yes, hes a really nice figure, has limited articulation on the legs, but you can work around it.
I can't wait for Chestmaster Heckbat to come out :)
>but facial hair on transformers has always been kind of weird to me
Yeah, I was initially reluctant at buying Scourge because the whole beard on him looked really weird and out of place on a TF. But the design is starting to grow on me, and I own RTS Wreck-Gar and I really enjoyed him- so I wanna give Scourge a chance, too. I adore his colors and his bot mode silhouette.
>they seemed more like people in costumes with their designs
Man, they did that a lot with the Season 3/'86 Movie guys, huh? A lot of them have those weird pastel colors, non-silver/grey faces, and abstract-ass altmodes. The toys for those guys suffered so much, man. Just look at poor, poor G1 Kup or Blurr.
>Man, they did that a lot with the Season 3/'86 Movie guys, huh? A lot of them have those weird pastel colors, non-silver/grey faces, and abstract-ass altmodes. The toys for those guys suffered so much, man. Just look at poor, poor G1 Kup or Blurr.
Floro Dery wanted them to look "more human than human". He's an interesting guy. And those are only the designs that got approved.
It's very upsetting the way the fandom treated Dery. he didn't remember every last precise detail of a show he worked on for two years in the 80's, and he got a little pissed when people who were shitting their pants in the 80's tried to tell him he was wrong. I mean,w ho wouldn't be pissed if someone tried to correct you on your own life experiences?
It's easy to say "Floro Dery is lying about coming up with the idea for a transforming planet, because this Diaclone sketch proves otherwise!". When in reality its just as likely he came up with the idea independent of that, and never saw the sketch.
Just rotate Skydive shoulders.
Are you ready for the release of Desert Storm Sideswipe, Drift, and Windblade?
it's because Wanky thinks that his unfunny shit-filled wiki is somehow a big contribution to Transformers, moreso than the guys who created the franchise.
Shame no one will ever run him down in the Botcon parking garage.
It's called TITANmaster.
Just thought of another one
Assuming we get a Lightspeed retooled from a CW car and he looks more like G1 Lightspeed and less like a regular car-Psycho
Powerglide as Bad Boy or Shockwave painted as RoGun (i'm only a little kidding lol)
>in puzzle piece format
Thats not a leak, thats a sales rep trying to drum up hype. A leak would be a full pic at the very least, or the toy in-hand from some chinese sweatshop worker.
Calling it now:
Drillhorn-> (still) Drillhorn
Deathsaurus-> Dezarus/however japan romanized the name or Darksaurus
Also, was 2014 Generations the lowest point in Transformers?
>shitty, easily scratched paint on Cosmos
>shrapnel's loose mandibles
>goldbug/nightbeat as a whole
>stress mark queen windblade
>scary, gummy plastic on chromia's joints
>brainstorm's headmaster gimmick breakage
>roadbuster's terrible build quality and shitty ratchets
>whirl's fragile normal knees
>rhinox's insanely loose knees/hips
>waspinator's cracking shoulders
>rattrap's exploding shins
>skids's misassembled thighs/crosscut and skids barely being able to stand up
Say what you want about CW, but the only really glaring QC issues of the line have been Motormaster's shitty ratchets and Brawl's weird waist assembly.
>Calling it now:
Good. Breastforce sounds like a terrible porno name about titty superheroes.
Gonna say they'll be lazy and just name him Guyhawk via romanizing him or something. Skyhawk sounds redundant.
Sounds like a Megaman X boss.
No idea what they could call him. Draculabat for all we know.
>Drillhorn-> (still) Drillhorn
Doubt he's getting name changes, yeah.
>Deathsaurus-> Dezarus/however japan romanized the name or Darksaurus
No idea what he'll end up named, but that sounds plausible.
>They get called Airrazor, Demolishor, Blackout, Dirt Boss, and Gigatron
Plane-Scourge goes well with space-jet Galvatron
>no, that was whatever year those shitty FOC toys came out.
DESU, 2014 was my favorite year since the end of HFTD/RTS. We got a crazy variety of toys from all eras of Transformers, with build quality way above FoC and slightly above where we are right now with CW. Every toy fair and convention we got exciting new reveals that nobody could have predicted.
With cost-cutting continuing apace and a GEEWUNNER in charge of product development, I don't foresee us having as good a year again in a long, long time.
If they show something interesting later, then I'll change my mind, but so far, it's not looking that interesting to me.
I think his robot mode works, I'm apathetic to his base mode, and his boom box mode looks ridiculous. He's like a 6 out of 10 to me.
Soundwave on the other hand? Awful.
Gen Scourge is one of the best modern transformers, imho.
There is no exposed hollowness, robot and alt mode are pretty solid, and the wings open to store the guns.
I guess he's underrated but he's easily the best among cyclonus and galvatron.
Same 3d printed computron dude here. Would people be interested in a defensor upgrade aswell? Been thinking about doing a small run of upgrades, just wanna know who would be interested in this kinda stuff.
Main stuff I'd like to do:
>two mouth/facial expressions
>New crotch than attaches to ladder
>Pieces that add bulk to thighs
> New blades rotors to emulate G1 look
>New blades lower arms to emulate G1 look
> G1 weapons
The Blades kit has been finished and I will post tomorrow if interested. I also have some additional ideas as well, but I'll hold those back. I'm just interested if I should do a run of these? Would people have the interest? P.E's upgrades are awesome and they would be similar to those, but with a lot more added in.
as a leg, it thickens up the look quite a bit, which I actually prefer, especially on Defensor, who looks out of place with one skinny component. As an arm. it's really not too much different either.
Windblade doesn't have a Warrior class toy yet, so it might be possible.
He'll get a toy with a body as well.
>Hasbro gets new idea to make more money from hardcore fans
>Release accurate Squeezeplay head separately
>Release Squeezeplay toy with another head so you have to buy the accurate one
At least that's what I hope for.
Combiner and every component has a headmaster pilot.
Why do his elbow joints have to be pins? Why couldn't they be on ball joints so you could take them off and use them as bombs? How am I supposed to roleplay the end of WWII when I can't take the bomb off without fucking the toy?
Pins are difficult to get out, and they're even more difficult to get back in again. In order to remove the bombs for a bombing run, the pin would need to be removed. It would then be extremely taxing, if not literally impossible to get back in, ergo the toy would now be 'fucked'.
>Blot is the only Terrorcon I care about.
Same, I don't even care about Abominus, but Blot is cool.
Wish we had an Animated Blot toy, there's just this kickass custom
Hasbro could quite easily make an Abominus combiner by retooling Sky Lynx, then making two new molds, one for Sinnertwin and another to be used by Rippersnapper and retooled into Blot. Cutthroat could be an extremely heavy retool of an Aerialbot. The molds could then be used for Monstructor and possibly Predaking.
God fucking damnit if they do that in red and it's not RID Prime I will REEEEEEE like a REEEEtard.
Also people complaining about I think 3rd party hip armor on Defensor/Bruticus getting in the way of his legs, that's because his hip articulation is fucked due to it not being where his hips are visually.
I wonder if there are enough stupid customers that will buy stuff that doesn't really fix things on a flawed figure. I look at that and I go "No. You need to give me more."
>Saw the news for a CW Liokaiser
>It's a recolored Sky linx, five guys combiner
I think I know why Scattershot got released next to Onslaught. Because another toy was planned, but it fell through, forcing them to make a last minute addition to fill out the wave. Since the Scattershot tooling existed for the planned Computron, they decided to use it for the replacement.
I have no proof at all and this is nothing but speculation, but it seems like a logical chain of events.
I wager it's less of it fell through and more of they didn't want the case to be just Onslaught.
As to why is a million dollar question since the current case ratio between Onslaught and his limbs are 4 to 1.
I have a question: why is /toy/'s go-to bogeyman "poorfags?'
It's like seeing people call everyone Reddit on other boards. f you don't like something, you're too poor to buy it. If you think something is overpriced, you're too poor to afford it. If you complain about scalping, you're too poor to pay scalper prices.
The Transformers guys call the other Transformers guys poor, the 3P guys call the Transformers guys poor, the Anime figure guys call the 3P guys poor, and the 1/6 guys call the Anime guys poor.
It feels like everybody's trying to justify their spending habits by saying that everyone would buy the same things they do if they were rich enough.
Elitism, when you have money its an entitlement to solve all of the problems toy collecting has, don't like the deco of one toy, buy its more expensive japanese cousin, don't like the default configuration, buy 3rd party parts, don't like the figure at all, buy the third party, second one voices an argument about the price, no matter how logical, "you're a poor fag".
My wardrobe is overflowing on shit and I got called a poorfag because my mp seeker collection is based on stock hasbro versions I bought long after release over the takara ones.
You can't win with these people, hell I honestly believe they say it just to tick you off for the fun of it, wouldn't surprise me they just want to turn the wheels of drama since none of us can really claim we aren't poor fags other than words on a screen
It's pretty much this. In collecting, the more money you spend, the more hardcore you are. Somebody who spends less money than you isn't as committed. There's also the fact that if you suggest something is overpriced, it also implies that people who buy it are paying too much. Some people take that as you saying they're being stupid.
Having money > having the respect of nerds because you bought a bunch of shit
It's why I prefer emulation to real hardware. I get the games for free. Gamers don't like me for it? Fine. AVGN, Pat, AlphaOmegaSin, they all live in shitty houses because they blew all their cash on gaming crap, their collections are all thrown haphazardly onto cheap shelf boards attached with those crappy shelf brackets and their homes look like cruddy thrift stores piled with ugly junk. It's not even pleasing displays because it's loose cartridges with worn labels lined up in tight formations.
Gamers can thumb their noses at me for running emulators for all I care, I don't respect them very highly in return because they live like slobs surrounded by junk.
Same deal with toys- do you want respect of junk hoarders? Take that insult and wear it like a badge of honor.
Gonna need you to dial down on the insecurity a little there champ.
it's called an EXAMPLE that relates to overall elitist geek culture. I'm sorry of an example goes over your head, but there are treatments for a wide range of learning disabilities, so your condition can be dealt with.
Holy shit, /toy/. Don't mean to turn this into a blog, but I just had something dropped off from when my grandmothers house was sold. Old toys and shit.
Figured "Well, far as I know everything was trashed or thrown away". Apparently, one box survived. Open it up, see pic related. I'm looking through it right now, will take more pics if I find anything else cool.
Dunno if his head is here, but this guys is
You guys have no idea how happy I am to find Sixshot and Doubledealer. Loved these guys as a kid. Not as much as my Optimus though, who so far seems to be missing.
Looks like he isn't gonna be ramming shit anymore. Partsforming claims another.
Oh ho, who do we have here? No really. I forget his name too. He's the autobot 6 changer, though.
Ahh, this brings back memories.
>Complete mint Misfire turns up on an auction nearby
>Pay a bit too much for it but w/e
>Comes in plane mode
>Fist cracks right off out of nowhere
>Panic hard, but calm down after a while
>"Oh well, I guess I can glue it back without it showing too much. At least the Targetmaster is fine"
>Huge fucking stress mark that will break if I were to transform it once
>"Sorry, there is nothing I can do."
Yeah, I'm pretty damn sure. Also FUCK YES, found Chromedomes head AND Cyclonus' missing wing.
>Hands use the open fist Arcee mold so she can't hold her guns or swords
>Sai use a new skinny post that fits all the way through the hand
>hands are painted so they can't be shaved down to hold guns
>if you shaved the hands down she could no longer hold her sai
>the weapons were not retooled with the skinny post
Takara wins again!
No seriously, what the fuck were they thinking?
They were probably thinking "When did nightbird ever use guns?"
Seriously, give the two guns over to another deserving bot, she can use both the swords and sai, problem solved.
Or, instead of shavng her hands, shave the handles of the guns down to match the sai. Problem double solved.
Unfortunately, it wasn't on Ebay. The site it was auctioned on doesn't take any responsibilities.
I just had to suck it up and accept that you sometimes have bad deals.
But I've been way more careful with buying G1 toys since then.
Sorry for the delay, was nabbing food.
Looks like G2 Beachcomber(?), a really bad off Springer, Bombshell, Kickback, and a G2 Seaspray fuck yes, I loved Seaspray.
>yes, I loved Seaspray.
Speaking of which, how come we never got a Seaspray version of Shortround?
Uh....Is this guy even a Transformer? What the fuck is this?
Another no-name I don't recognize, but at least I know he is a transformer.
Really? Oh lawdy.
Thus guy reminds me a bit of Powerglide.
Heres another mystery thing. Is this part of a Transformer? Looks like it could be, but damned if I know what. Looks cool though.
Umm...Thunderwing? Lightningwing? I dunno. Probably has Lightning or Thunder in the name though. Shit, I don't recognize any of these guys.
Looks like CW Wheeljack is going to get some more detailing after all.
Ok, found one of Ramjet's wings, but nothing else. And all these guys, plus instructions. One guy is missing his hood, dunno where it is. I also found one more thing...
Something brilliant I thought of.
Let's say they do Titans Return Mindwipe. They should recolor as THIS, Robat from Convertors.
10/10 if the actually get the name too.
At least it's not full of spiders or something awful. I have doubledealer and chromedome so I was going to check the prices on ebay out of curiosity, not suggesting you sell yours but what you do with your collection is your business. (pls not in pooper tho)
Well, I was pretty good with my toys as a kid, as evidenced by these headmasters still having their heads. It was my asshole parents who destroyed all of them by shoving them in an attic. All my G1, gone it seems. Dunno how this stuff escaped the attic, or the house sale of my grandma's, or anything.
And this is the last bit of it. Unfortunately, I found only one foot, and no fists. And of course the G2 Devy I had earlier doesn't have his chestplate, but he's otherwise nearly complete.
So Hasbro is finally starting to import CW Deluxe Groove just before the announce Computron so they can use Groove's mold for Afterburner without the nerds and autist acting like an angry mob from their basements
I'd totally buy that actually, if they got the head right.
Who wouldn't like a bat vehicon?
I'm still impressed how most of the Combiner Wars figures feel in hand. Even just single robots are pleasant to play with.
And the fact of it's now $100~ for a whole team and not $200+ for independent group versions.
Devastation was way too short, it could have wrapped things up with a little bit of an extended ending or something.
Or at the very least could have had a Decepticon mode to make up for how short it is.
Gotta dig up my Cybertron Sideways and see if it fits with a Vehicon head.
You realize that's just a render for the figure that came out a long time ago, and they toy is already leaked. Right? Right?
I'd be game for a new headsculpt. Didn't like the weird greebles in stock Defensor's face.
>the Anime figure guys call the 3P guys poor
Really? Most figmas/figuarts seem to be generally cheaper than most 3P stuff.
>headmaster with the head not lost
Yeah, that's one of his Powermaster partners. The other one resembles a bat.
>buy it in a splash
Stock images vary from the actual product. The ones we've seen in-hand online have less black detailing.
The "spy" ones were the coolest shit. I had the slot machine one back in the day.
Don't touch it, man. It'll crunch to pieces.
>inb4 it gets released but only in a Defensor box set
What's up with Lockdown being made of mismatched parts? Was he built like that, or is his bounty hunting job so dangerous that parts of him get damaged to the point he has to grab replacement parts from his victims?
Mismatched shin guards and the entire hook arm.
It's more prevalent in his show model but (Animated) Lockdown is a bounty hunter that takes the best parts of his targets and upgrades himself with them.
Some of his concept art was a lot more monstrous and Frankensteiny.
Seems kind of sloppy of them to not use an accurate picture.
Then again, the same would go for the ones who use the other one.
I really just don't like that Wheeljack would be so bland.
Probably online exclusive like Slingshot and Wildrider were.
I'm still skeptical about Deluxe Groove coming to the US, but it's possible Hasbro is holding out until the Combaticons and Takara's Shuttle Blast Off are fully released so they can release Groove alongside Blast Off, kinda like hoe they released Slingshot and Wildrider together.
Legends Shockwave used clear plastic, right? And so do a bunch of the RID Minicons and the Leader Seekers. I don't think Hasbro is purposely avoiding clear plastic considering that.
But it's possible all the springs and ratchets in the deluxes and voyagers means Hasbro can't use clear plastic without going over the price point the toy would sell at. That's my theory on it, anyway.
It's not so much that clear plastic is a no-no, it's the number of plastic sprues allocated to a figure.
The legend Shockwave has 3 (purple, grey and clear pink). Most CW deluxes get 4 (which includes that hand/foot).
Meanwhile, the Takara Groove has 6 (white, off-white, black, clear, clear blue and clear red). If we take that mold straight from Takara, now were have to take a figure that was designed to have 6 different plastic colors, covered with just 4. Unlike Shockwave, most of the parts can't be cast in clear, because the plastic has to hold up as joints, or it would require a ton of paint to make it looks good.
The missing back part of his vehicle mode held water, which was connected by a tube to the gun at the front.
You know what? Speaking of Lockdown I haven't finished AoE, but I did at least see when Lockdown popped his hook out. My inner fangirl squealed.
I think it's because Animated never really gets recognized that much outside of a few additions and the two movie version figures right after RotF.
>guy covered with lightning
I don't even.
Thought you meant Lockdown and Ratchet, they reference their animated rivalry in the bios, even the stolen "EMP emitter" the motor vents from Lockdown have a unique peg that can only fit in Lockdown and the deluxe Ratchet.
That 3+ idea will only go over well for Anons like you that miss out
I don't care but I know a lot of people that would shit a brick that would have to pay extra from limbs they already have
I got the Bruticus deluxes but Onslaught is waiting for Skylynx on bbts, still not sure what to do with Scattershot.
Turn it into a "true" Betatron by making 99% of the combined mode grey like a prototype/mock-up. Then either keep the parts exposed only in bot mode the same color (like Scattershot has just gotten gestalt parts installed into him) or paint the robot parts black/white/greyscale.
Toy bin Anon from earlier, here with a tiiiiny update.
After rooting through the assloads of Lego's in the bin, I've pulled out what might be some Transformer weapons. And a Pretender(?) shell, plus a single Ramjet fist.
Other than what might be a Dinobot sword, anyone got an idea who these weapons might go to?
>the CW stunticons twice over
you have all the stunticons twice? why? after i was done with menasor i was done with stunticons. i complete the teams that were in the show and thats it.
cyclonus can fuck off, i only got battle core pirme for a nova prime and as far as the autobot repaints i have ironhide. i went through the "gotta have them all phase" with the first of generations. i got drift, skullgrin, straxus, thunderwing and blackshadow just because i was desperate for more classics cons. out of all of them the only one i really like is black shadow.
Because I kept finding them on sale.
Drag strip and Offroad I got for 6 each on Amazon during a big toy sale
Found the second Dead End, and Breakdown at a go calanders clearance for 7 each
Black jack I got for $2 on Amazon renently with Motomaster for $12.
I think breakneck was $13 which isn't great but for an exclusive I got panicky and bought that second one to be safe.
I have done similar with all the CW guys so far. Bruticus has been the worse yet because I got the whole set gifted for Christmas and I still bought the set when it showed up in my stores.
>especially with CHUG ironhide and galvatron
so much regret. also i spent like 40 bux on universe ratchet. looking back i wish i went into the movie lines better. because at the start of DOTM i had no idea who was going to be in it so i bought all the toys just in case. i bought DOTM jolt, skids and mudflap, some ugly ass bumblebee. DOTM was full of regret. it was after that line was i done being a completionist. but if the toy is part of a team i love i feel i have to get it.
good lord man. food for thought, just because its cheap does not mean you should get it. i love the stunticons but not so much to get them twice.
The Pretender shell is Pincher.
The purple turret thing looks like one of the Combaticon vehicle mode weapons.
Got this guy at Goodwill for 3$, did I do good /toy/?
Chrome rifle with the circle in it is Jazz's
Purple turret is G2 Brawl
The fist is probably G2 Ramjet
Rest of the bits and bobs I don't have a clue outside of the little chrome stick being a lego spear.
I work at a hospital as the repair guy
I do at best 2 hours of work a day while the rest is me sitting waiting for a call. I get paid stupid well so 6+ hours of dead time with the Internet and money can make you buy silly things
I'm better than I use to be with shit
Back in 2009 I was buying every game released without question, when I saw the hoard I made by the end of the year I sold everything I didn't play off and swore never to do it again. Yet here I am with these stupid CW guys being the right level of fun to get me blowing cash stupidly again.
>Talking shit about Rescuebots
if you only get the cannon teams and not get the autobot repaints then you should be fine. i was really bad with buying marvel legends when i got my first job and now i have a shit tone of toys of characters i know nothing about. i recently went through my collection and put a bunch in storage. i left the ML from the movies out and like 2 or 3 from comics i really like the design of. and at the time i was only making 9 bux an hour and trying to college. i could have saved so much money if i did not buy a lot of them. $300 easy.
for thunderwing no not really. for the character he is a poor excuse for a thunderwing. alt mode is alright, backpack is big and the shoulder spikes get in the way of moving the arms forward.
skullgrin on the other hand is pretty cool. a bunch of guns, a pick axe and i love the colors. down side is the back kibble. i want a do over for thunderwing as a leader class.
Thunder suffers the usual jet curse of his robot mode being more or less stand up legs out shame
Decent possibility good details and paint apps
Skulls alt mode is a blast to play with and has good possablity
Colors blur details however and it makes him somewhat blan
i see why you think that. thinkinga bout it now scourge is the better toy, cleaner alt mode, arms ahev a bunch of the necessary joints, wrists, bicep joint, ankle tilts, waist, all that good stuff.
Yeah, pretty much all this. I mean, Cyclonus is a great toy, they both are. But Scourge edges out with that clutch alt (some awesome transformation touches, and though the entire front is his legs, the alt itself is so damn sleek it's incredible) and the additional articulation in a ll the right places.
Is Classics Mirage still good? I only own the CW Mirage. What about RtS Perceptor? And how is the Universe Datsun mold? I kinda like the look of the Prowl. I own CW Prowl as well if that means anything.
Mirage is great, really nice articulation, only con is how stylized he is, Perceptor has a shitty arm conection, but overal he is pretty good, the Datsuns on the other hand are bad designed, from the akward transformation where you'll have to pop the wings so the paint don't scratch, to the sticky paint in most of the prowl copies, also the weird proportions with the high neck and the sad face.
I've got UW Groove in front of me, and his windshield is one clear piece with clear blue, clear red, and opaque white paint. His guns are also clear, with clear red and opaque gunmetal paint. So he's still only four sprues.
Where do you eurofags buy your transformers from anyway ? Kapow is ok, but a bit pricy. BBTS's shipping is buttrapey, amazon.com occasionally has some semi interesting stuff...
Prices on ebay are totally retarded. Didnt it use to be the place to get shit cheap ?