Third party transformers

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>>5347057
Actually, DX9 Carry has already been released. Sites are just getting restocks. So you can check reviews if you wanted

Also, Fanstoys is also doing an MP Hot Rod later

>>5347065
Yea I saw the reviews already and they were glowing but I was curious what non video reviewed thought. Thanks for the info about fan toys I'm gonna check it out.

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Toy of the fucking year for me right here.

So damn tiny and yet can do so much. Only thing he's missing is a deeper elbow joint and maybe a toe joint, but damn. Hopefully Universe Cyclonus won't jump in price because of him. Never got one myself because of the old somewhat doofy facesculpt but definitely need him now as a companion piece. Can't wait for my board to come in. Trying to figure out if it's possible to magnetize his feet to it or something.

>>5347852
What's the little guys name. I have universe cyclonus such a good figure.

>>5349340
its the MakeToys Rear-End

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Anyone know if the KFC replacement hands for Prime or Sideswipe will work with Planet X Dinobots? Mostly for Vulcan or Quirinus.

>>5347852
I had been planning on getting him but the character has become so insufferable in the comic that I cancelled my preorder.

>>5347852
RTS Cyclonus has jumped in price. Ebay prices are all over the place.

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>>5349446

Probably not without modification.

>>5349502
>insufferable

He was a victim of deceit and tumblrshipping. He did nothing wrong.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sebv5m1D8bQ

KO AoE Optimus is looking good so far.

>>5350281
We still don't have any order details like pricing or order date do we?

>>5350281
Is that even a KO anymore? It's look like a completely new toy.

Fucking Wei Jiang. Taking that KO business to the next level.

>>5350347
Considering their other oversized AoE KOs go for about $30 shipped from China, this might not be much more than $50.

>>5350347
If this is the WeiJiang OS AoE OP, then we do. It's something like $47 locally in China. With shipping and seller markups, it's gonna be slightly cheaper than WeiJiang's MPP10, which ended up being around $110 shipped most places.

>>5350281
>>5350347
>>5350386
http://www.tf-direct.com/wei-jiang-evasion-mode-oversized-optimus-prime_p1205.html
Wha-bam.

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>>5350615
>http://www.tf-direct.com/wei-jiang-evasion-mode-oversized-optimus-prime_p1205.html

God bless you, anon! YOu've saved X-Mas!

So, let's play a game anons. You get the chance to work for any 3rd party company, and make anything you want. Which company do you pick and what do you make?

>MMC
>Reformatted Tidalwave

>>5350743
Mech Ideas
Animated Red Alert

>>5350743
I like this game, anon

Fansproject
Anime style Sixshot

>>5350743
>MMC
>Reformatted mtmte version Whirl

I seriously hope this gets made at some point anyway but I doubt it

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>>5350743
Maketoys
MTMTE Whirl

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>>5350836
I wish I could make customs like that

>preorder last minute from chosen prime
>shit comes in next day, ships same day Friday
>free 2 day priority shipping showed up today from half way across the country

Meanwhile:

>order from TFS
>takes weeks to get things other retailers already got
>a couple days until order ships
> pay for better shipping rates than the free shipping, takes more than 1.5 weeks to arrive from the same sort of distance.

Lesson learned.
I know where I'm ordering from now on.

Will the PE Constructicon kits be out soon?

>>5350853
I'm done with TFSource. Last two orders were for things in stock - TFS claims "same day shipping" if you order before 1 pm - and my order then sat there for a week without shipping despite me emailing them repeatedly asking what the issue was.

Chosen Prime, on the other hand - I ordered something Friday at 5:30 pm my time (4:30 in AZ). It ships that day (for free) and is delivered today.

>>5350836
Ugliest design ever, hope it never gets made.

How would you describe Fansproject/Maketoys' stuff? I like the aesthetics but I hear they often aren't fun to transform?

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Anyone manage to get ahold of the KO Feral Rex yet?

For that matter, anyone here have the non-KO Feral Rex? I'm thinking of taking the plunge. The expensive, expensive plunge, and buying him. Online reviewers only go so far, if anyone here can post their experiences with the figures, any issues they had, etc, I'd really appreciate it.

>>5350935
go wash your fingernails Greg

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>>5350935
I am not very familiar with the comics but I hope he gets made just to spite asshats like you.

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>>5351034
>anyone here have the non-KO Feral Rex?

Yeah, he's fun. Worth picking up if you got the funds.

>>5351106

Any critiques or problems with it? Highlights? Etc.

>>5351141

I bought Mine second hand, but it had all the stuff. There was initial reports of the bull, Bovis, buttplate cracking but I don't see any issues with that.

The articulation can be a bit wonky in combined mode, but considering the size and consruction, it's far better than it needed to be.

Probably the only weird thing is the way the sword handle is made from the lion, Leo Dux, tail, that you want to set it up with the hinge facing away from gravity or it will flop down awkwardly

The individual modes are pretty good. Nice hardy design, great articulation. Some bitch that it's too greebily but I love the look, so I have no complaints about that.

Bovis and Fortis are basically the same mold,, with mostly just the heads being different. Same with the arm bots, Tigris,Talon, and Felisaber, are basically the same as well. But I think it works and the team looks cohesive while individual.

I really don't have any complaints overall.

>>5351166

Has the cracking issue been solved in later releases of the figures, or you don't know?

>>5350940

Sleek and dynamic but merciless wtolerances and a tendency for unintuitive, soul crushing transforming motions. You have to line things up perfect and the edges od the plasric are unkind to your fingers.

Granted there are exceptions to the rule like function x bots being transforming bliss. Fans project has been slipping while maketoys kicked it up a notch.

>>5351034

Big and heavy. You need slip pads on his feet to handle the weight on some surfaces. Each bot is a solid stand alone rocking articulation and tabs that lock everything down. The alt modes are weak, and the combiner does a lot of things with plenty of options to keep things changed up. You have to like the take on the designs.

>>5351177

Most fortis come with extra buttplate parts. Honestly it was minor compared to the elbow soft detents getting mashed, and that was just cosmetic. The newer run should have those fixed, but you can check to be sure before bending them.

>>5351177

As far as I know, that was only an issue on the first run of Bovis, and later runs had fixed it. Most if not all Fortis also comes with a replacement piece for Bovis just in case, though.

I like Vangelus' reviews for Feral Rex, so maybe look at them for a closer look. I pretty much agree with his opinion over it.

>>5351183

I'd heard some had elbow problems as well. Were limbs just breaking off or something? A few reviews mentioned it by saying there were parts to fix it (but good fucking luck doing so because it involves repinning?), so what was the actual issue?

How was Metal Club's quality on their Saint Seiya KOs? I'm curius because that might be an indictor for the quality on their future Feral Rex KO.

I want a cheap Razorclaw toy so bad.

>>5351256
Amazing, there is little difference between the originals and the MC versions. They even do color schemes that bandai hasn't got around to do yet.

>>5351274
Sweet. So like a good KO MP, then?

>>5351284
Pretty much, but I would say the quality would be a little better than the MP KOs.

>>5351274
>>5351190
>>5351183
>>5351182

Wasn't there an addon kit of extra guns for the lions and robot modes by some 3rd party? Anyone remember the name of it?

>>5351192
No breakages, but the nubs on the elbow soft ratchets got a little mashed with use because the factory put the elbow piece on the right elbow on backwards. It was mostly cosmetic and didn't hurt the elbow much. You just need to pop the pin out and flip it and it's fine.

>>5351335
Royal Arsenal

>>5351412

Oh, so it won't actually impair the figures if you get one with this problem?

>>5351413

Thanks! I was kind of upset the base figures didn't include the shoulder guns and similar for some of the figures, this was the set I'd heard mentioned.

I really think I'm going to take the plunge and get this big bastard. I really can't afford it, but Predaking is my literal white whale. Never got him when I was younger, and Hasbro hasn't made a fucking updated one in CW despite making everything else but Abominus and that one sea monster 'bot, and apparently the cheaper alternative of War Lord has some leg issues and honestly, I'd rather pay the extra to ensure I get quality over some floppy motherfucker.

>>5351413

Oh, and anyone know if the guns in those sets would fit regular transformer's hands? 5mm holes I think the official ones usually use?

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>Warbotron's face when Ray Gun
These goddamn gook ass motherfuckers. Make me waste a damn hour trying to deal with tolerance shit and the fucking leg breaks in my hand.

Accessory Gun's cool tho

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This guy looks fucking great. Almost tipping on the fence on whether to get him or not after owning the shitty Generations.

Any of you guys got/getting him?

>>5351427

They do minus Leo Dux's cannons that go on the combiner ports.

>>5351457
Contemplating but can't handle the price tag. Maybe someday. I just love his tail/body articulation.

>>5351457
Vangelus did comparison reviews between Vulcan and Grimlock if you're inclined to check them out.

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RAWKET LAWNCHAIR

>>5351629

Jesus, is that an actual 3P Transformer? It looks too much like the Metal Slug tank.

>>5351647
It's a homage mate.

>>5351647
Yes and its a really good 3P too. Highly recommended.

>>5351647
It was intentional.

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I'm having a bitch of a time getting 3p Tailgate's legs positioned just right so all 4 wheels roll, but I'm still pretty satisfied.

Wish they kept a tab for the Target Master to do arm cannon mode though.

>>5351974
how hard was doing the head swap on the rts cyclonus? I dont have one yet and was wondering if its worth the price of getting one and doing the upgrades

>>5351457

Got him coming in next week, can't fucking wait.

>>5350281
Does Wei Jiang have some sort of official website?

>>5351996
not very hard at all, but you'll need a tiny screw driver. I accidentally lost a tiny screw from RTS cyclonus though.. but meh new head is better even though the horn might be more fragile.

>>5351974
Does Tailgate have a weapon?

http://tfsource.com/badcube/ots-08-sunsurge/

All we need now is for Arkose and that one Jazz I can't remember the name of to get out of Preorder hell, and everything'll be good.

>>5352308
No. Extra crying head and smashed leg stubs are his only accessories.

>>5351996
The swap out of the new parts was surprisingly easy. The end result, to me, is great. Best Cyclonus.

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>>5347057
The only Inferno i give a shit about is the beast wars one. But this shit is amazing!

All MP toys should have more faces

>>5352315
Sunsurge reviews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PiYvI8AyCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0pybuPgcBw

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>>5352387

>dat shit eating grin

I love alternate expressive faces. If Transformers have mouths they're usually neutral, frowning, or a slight grin.

Shame Hellfire's vehicle mode isn't the best. MMC and KFC do it a lot better.

>>5352403
Not sure what Dinobot that's supposed to represent, but that shouting face is unofortunate.

It's like the mouth is just drawn on, not sculpted to look like it's shouting. his jaw is still in the same place despite the fact that it's shouting, you know?

>>5352307
>>5352319
thanks, gonna go ahead and order a Cyclonus then if its not that bad

>>5352433
The plastic color is a best match for the RtS 2-pack with Rodimus. It won't match very well with the standard Universe Cyclonus.

>>5352304
They do. I can't for the life of me find it right now (the use a different brand name than Wei Jiang). I'll keep looking.

>>5352441
>it only matches the more expensive one
of course
but I'm already in this deep, thanks for the warning

So I'm really itching for some better combines wars feet, but PE's don't really do it for me. Is there any chance Nonnef is going to do another run? Or are there rumblings from any other third party about new cw stuffs?

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>>5352513

Nothing on the horizon which is weird. PE jumped on that shit and no one else really took a swing yet.

>>5352513
>Is there any chance Nonnef is going to do another run
He is, actually.

They're redoing the old colors while doing gray ones for Bruticus

He's taking his time, though. On top of that he got sick or some shit

>>5351457
Want to get him, but Canadian dollar is suffering right now.

>>5352533
Why compete with perfection?

>>5352533
>>5352513
At one point Nonnef was messing with the idea of knee adapters that wuold let you combine CW Combiner Legs G1 style.

He abandoned the idea because the prototypes made the combiners too tall.

>>5352513

I own a few of the PE sets. They are pretty nice, honestly. Might as well grab'em, you might like them better in-hand than in pictures.

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>>5350836

>>5350743
TFC
Remold of their Piranacon into God Neptune with remolded Scylla

Alternatively Mech Ideas with animated Menasor featuring 5 new molds

>>5350743
MMC
Abominus

>>5351457
Toy of the year for me, followed by Quirinus.
Hands down the best Grimlock IMO.

>>5350743
Maketoys Stormbringer Whirl, or Roadbuster.

>>5350743
BadCube MP-style Cosmos

>>5352788
I think I'd buy that actually. i'd love a tubby G1 Cosmos toy, and i like Badcube Warpath's aesthetic

Man, I hope BBTS ships the PE Constructicon sets soon. Robot Kingdom is already shipping and a two month delay for the sets being releases has been pretty annoying.

>>5352569

Uh no that'd be perfect, their arms are too long and gorilla-like with how they hang down to the knees. Longer legs with better feet is a godsend.

>>5352447
I hope you find it bruv ;_;

>KOs that are actually of far better quality and design than their original more expensive counterparts

Why aren't they expensive as hell? Surely there must be some kind of downside?

>Find out there's a store next to me run by an MMC rep that stocks most all 3rd party toys along with renderforms printings and most of the recent hastak offerings
>Drop 300 bucks in one trip because "it's right there"
Fucking RIP my wallet.

At least Commotus is fucking great. So strange seeing such a beefy transformer going to suc a beefy tank mode but still having such a straightforward transformation. Was expecting something more along the lines of the post mounting wibbly nightmare that Cynicus was with that arm assembly but it actually works.

>>5353644
What the fuck? they sell third party toys in person at shops?

What's the name of this place? where it's at?

>>5353640
They don't need to engineer or design much or anything. That saves a lot of money. Also they'll be cheaper in China, if you buy it at aliexpress or eherever it's probably going to double in cost.

Also child labor.

>>5353644
Do you live in Asia? The only place in person I've seen 3p stuff is A3U.

>>5354003
>MMC rep
>Asia
MMC is a western company.

>>5352390
That transformation is impressive.

>>5354082
Oh, didn't know that. Guess it makes sense considering all the idw stuff.

>>5354082
Are they the only Western 3P company?

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>>5354084
You haven't seen impressive until you've witnessed Badcube Warpath's transformation

It's not fun to do at all. But it's so fucking meticulous and complicated that I'm sure whoever designed it could stage the perfect bank heist

Does anyone own the Fansproject Dinoking guys? I've seen pics of them but nobody's talked about them it seems, really.

>>5354298
I own Wardog. Its transformation isn't anywhere as impressive as Sunsurge's.

What are the best, most CHUG/G1 3P Dinobot's? I've been wanting a full Dinobot team but theres a lot of 3P Dinobots out there.

>>5354468
G1: FT
CHUG: PX/FP

>>5352304
>>5352447
>>5353596

If you guys are looking for where to get that oversized Optimus, look no further than >>5350615

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>>5354468
Planet X for CHUG style. FOC designs tho, pretty faithful to the source.

>>5354485

How are the Fansprojects ones? They look better to me than the Planet X stuff.

The FT ones are just too expensive, damn.

>>5354557
Not FP's best outing, from what I hear. but they dont seem that bad. be sure to look at the headsculpts first. Slag's face is an... acquired taste

Alot of people seem to hate them though. when FP announced their Grimlock, everyone was talking about buying PX Grimlock instead (me being one of them..)

I agree that they shouldnt have used ball joints for their hips though.

>>5354577

Are there any known problems with them, structurally? Aesthetics are all taste, but physical problems can't be disputed, usually.

>>5354082
Really? Source?

>>5354612

IIRC they are based in Singapore but contract people from the west to do designs. They communicate primary with English speaking fans though.

>>5354589

The lack of locking tabs on the kibble and loose joints on Columpio, and the fact he can't hold his weapons sucks. He really ruined it for a lot of people, myself included.

Cubar has retarded specific tolerances to get it to line up in alt mode and the tail kibble forms a cup handle on the back

Volar doesn't really transform much but is the most solid of the bunch.

Their Snarl and grimlock look like shit IMO, the original fembot doesn't do anything exciting and has a torso face.

Best dinomodes of the bunch with the exception of Planet X Vulcun's god tier T-rex and Planet X Quirinus.

>>5354738

Were any of the issues addressed with Columpio or are they all just potentially problematic?

Honestly, for their price point and looks they look the best option for me. The Fantoys ones are waaaaayyyyy too expensive, and while I don't mind the WfC/FoC stylings of Planet X, I was looking for something more traditional. I dunno. It's all just me trying to decide so nothing is set in stone.

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>>5354801
Nothing but a new torso piece to give him hip ratchets instead of hip ball joints that came with Volar.

You could go with toyworld. None of them are awful except their swoop, who is just a fat slab with wings. Just ignore the combining gimmick because the combiner is shit. They're the most classic looking of the bunch at the voyager scale. Their weapons are absolute garbage though.

Personally I went with Planet X. Neptune hooked me after Their swoop was lukewarm.

>>5354822

After looking at some reviews of each (wow, they all look very nice), I don't mind Columpio having back kibble, I just sort of expect it with ANY Transformer, 3P or no.

I'm honestly having a hard time deciding.

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I saw a pretty cool looking Optimus a while back, it was kinda proportioned like >>5354822.

Anyone know the name/maker?

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So I was thinking about jumping on board with this set but, hear mixed feelings about them. Who here has them and whats your take?

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>>5354910

Spark Toy's WW Prime?

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>>5354910

Or legends scale Iron Factory WW Prime?

>>5355118
>>5355117
Nah, he had large rounded shoulders. He was very bulky looking

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>>5354910
Maybe Toyworld Orion?

>>5351629
I really want Commutus or whatever his name is. Impactor looked good but I don't know/care about the character so he was just a dude with goofy colors. This guy's a little TOO black but his head sculpt is wicked and as we've seen all it takes is a bit of extra blue panel lines to make him pop 93% more.

>>5352533
>dat hammer
Is that just his two guns combined together as a handle? That is brilliant.

>>5355409

It does look decent, and yes that is what it appears to be.

>>5355407

Didn't give a shit about him until I saw his altmode.

I loves me some Metal Slug.

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>>5355375
Dont think so. This is the closest I can find to what I think he looked like.

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>>5355658
?

>>5355660
Still not it. Damn, I really don't know why the hell I didn't save the pic of it.

I'm gunna find this fucker one way or another.

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>>5355117
You know what, turns out this was it. Seeing the alt-mode helped my memory, here's the pic I saw before.

I could have sworn he was rounder though.

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>>5355678

The only other primes are add on kits from FP, Beelzeboss, and S and D. Plus a mystery mix of the two game designs from Shapeshift.

>>5352618
XD XD XD XD XD XD

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Looks like Iron Factory's car bros are about ready to go. Wish they hadn't added the "38" stamps to Smokescreen but eh oh well.

>>5356171
Awww yes. These are some of my most anticipated figures.

>>5356368
>that thrusted-out crotch

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These new pics have won me over. I'm def going with the GT cons.

>>5356171

Looking good (and swoll)

>>5356368
>>5356372
>>5356376
>>5356379
Absolutely getting these. The plastic chain-tread legs on the Toyworld structies are tempting, but it's still a big solid block of color. The GT ones break the block up incredibly nicely.

I wish they'd quit using the official names in the pictures though. It's making me nervous.

>>5356768
>I wish they'd quit using the official names in the pictures though. It's making me nervous.
AND the logos! thats a big no no

One company that used the logos was Justitoys, i use a past tense cause Hasbro shut them down for that, as well as straight-up reproducing their toys

>>5356797
also generation toy is a fucking stupid name for a third party company. cause googling "transforemes generation toy" just gives you generations toys

>>5354543
Too bad the source sucks.

>>5356368
>>5356376

Why are the legs a size class smaller than they should be? Looks horrible.

>>5356376
>>5356368

These guys are really growing on me. They don't have any G1 factor to them and their proportions are squat and all over the place like >>5356815 notes. They walk the line of being too highly detailed, but the paint, colors and articulation makes them look fantastic in photos as their own thing. The squat proportions sort of fit somewhat, and I like how they pulled of the tread legs and feet, and that the hand parts split to make a wearable backpack. I just don't know if I can commit to another combiner team until know how it all strings together.

>>5356815
>bothering with leg day

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Idk how to salvage CW prime like this and make all the add on parts integrated without partsforming, but both the beelzeboss and SND kits are doing pretty good. Beelzeboss's looks like current comic prime while SND is before the CW nonsense. Thinking about getting the BB one for a classics prime and the SND hugeness for a Nemesis prime/Scourge. Toyworld's Orion and classics prime just don't cut it.


>>5356171

Jesus fucking Christ IF needs to slow down. I only just got around to Iron Waifu.

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Also here's progress of the BB Nova prime kit for random recolor CW Prime. That shit is looking good. Also it looks like they may be attempting to make a kit to make CW Megatron game accurate to Devastation. IE: not a pile of shit like the other two kits that are out.

>>5358011
I'll be sticking with SND as BB doesn't address the legs and the chest sticks out a bit to much. Also BB hasn't commented on wether their kit can still combine, which while I have no plans of using I'd rather keep the feature intact.

I've bought every mass-release official cute girl TF excluding recolors and feel empty. What are some good 3rd party ones to fill the void?

Should I buy Feral Rex, /toy/?

Convince me for or against, I guess.

>>5358020
Okay, this shit is fucking good. I like the smaller head

I bought battlecore prime cause i thought he was cool, but Nova's cooler, so I'll definitely get this

>make CW Megatron game accurate to Devastation

If that's true I'll have to buy that Megatron then. That game is one of my favorite things to come out of Transformers recently, and its made me buy alot of toys, like Devastator

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>>5358296

There are the legends scale Iron Waifus, legends scale DX9 Not-Cee, MMC's Azalea remolds, an female dinobot, older Igear arcees delicate warriors. Also MMC Strika cutest of all.

>>5358340
idk do you like the look of it? There are KOs on the way if you don't want to dump the dosh on it.

>>5358591

I really like the look of it, yeah. And I don't think theres going to be a CW Predaking as it seems that line is just about over. I don't really trust KO's either.

How is the Badcube Sunsurge/Sunstreaker everyone? Any major complaints other than complex transformation?

>>5351182
>The alt modes are weak
Really only Talon and that's because nobody can seem to do avian modes that well. Otherwise, the alt modes are pretty great. They're articulated pretty well and the designs are a really nice update to their G1 alt modes.

>>5358020
Are there any pics ofthe Megatron addon?

>>5358340
A3U's boxing day sale starts today. You could get Nero Rex for 20% off.

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>Everyone talks about the best 3P figure this year
>No one mentions this beast

Fuck G1 and fuck the middle-aged manchildren who don't like it because its "weeb shit", Perfect Effect's Lio Convoy was by far the best 3P figure this year. THIS is what 3P should be about; high quality materials, lots of paint and metal, tackling exotic designs that Hasbro would never even think of, and doing it in a way that gives pretty much every other figure even outside of the Transformers franchise a run for its money. So refreshing after getting nothing but blocks with panel lines.

>>5359358
someone's angry

>>5359363
what's new for a TF thread

>>5359367
I'm just waiting for Jin to come in and piss & moan about "illegal, you should go to jail, hasbro will destroy this crap" now that he's returned to shitpost like the old days.

The irony being that he himself is a 3rd party toy maker. Just a crappy one.

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>>5359358
Thing is... Perfect Effect teased Liger Zero Lio Convoy, so when the final product turned out to be different, many people pulled out, me included.
Now the beast mode homages Galeon, but the execution is really bad, and i love Galeon

and for people who just want a big, high end Lio Convoy, it doesnt work for them either, cause its so different from the source

If you wanted Lio Convoy's Cybertronian mode, this toy doesnt suffice, and if you want a faithful Lio Convoy, it still doesnt suffice.

tldr, this figure's in such a niche that not alot of people want him

>>5359404

Wasn't there also a bevy of QC reports on it that also turned off people to it/

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>>5359408
That too!

Anon says the quality's good, but I hear it feels like a model kit..

>>5359358
This figure had massive QC problem. Trying to brush away those complaints and shill for PE isn't going to convince anyone about this toy.

>>5359358
As much as I loved this figure and advocated for it till the bitter end, it is no where near the best 3P figure of 2015. I admit, i loved the design but the actual figure was marred with terrible QC issues. I was one of the lucky people who didn't have any major problems, but even so I got a figure with ludicrously tight bicep swivels.
It was painful for me to sell it off because I loved it, but I didn't see it surviving in my man mitts. Hopefully the black version they plan on releasing will mitigate the issues that plagues Leonidas.

>>5359449
>the black version
It sucks that that black version isn't based off Black Lio Convoy, cause Black Lio Convoy debuted the black and teal nemesis color scheme

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>>5359449
>ludicrously tight bicep swivels
I read that as lusciously tight..

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>>5359451
I was about to sperg out about Scourge from RID, but then I remembered that BW2 came out before Car Robots.

I honestly don't mind them using red, but I really hope they make it a darker shade.

About to go pull the trigger on Apollyon, can anyone give me a good reason not to?

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>>5359458
>pull the trigger

>>5359458
Make toys despotron

>>5359458

This>>5359479

Have you seen Maketoys inferno? he comes with SIX faces!
Dont you want a megatron with six faces?

>>5359509
I really hope one of the included faces will be of him wincing as Optimus puts his sentient wiener inside him whilst bending him over ans saying "one shall stand, one shall fall"

>>5359513
>sentient wiener
His weiner has conciousness?

what's the name of the weiner? nexus maximus?

>>5359514
His weiner's name is

freedom.

>>5359247

Colors are wrong on Nero, I don't want Grimdarken.

>>5359358
Eh, I was just dispappointed it didn't look as much like a Liger as the original design did.

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>>5359358
>Everyone talks about the best 3P figure this year
>No one mentions this beast

The problem I had with it is the massive QC issues. Its a big ball of loose, fragile joints.

Fortunately, the black repaint looks like it fixes those issues, and I will happily purchase it.

>>5359358
Did YOU really own it?

I mean it was okay but it had lots of glaring problems that's been pointed out in this thread already.

>>5358591
>purple Roadbuster
>cute

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Agumon redeco when

We Beast Wars fans lose again with this shit.A disappointing figure and/or one with bad QC comes out based on BW, and thus not many people buy it. Companies think this means BW doesn't sell, period. This seems like it happens way too much. Universe Dinobot/Cheetor and their general poor design. Generations Rattrap/Waspinator with their QC issues . Now this.Just make good toys and don't drastically change up what was promised or expected and people will buy.

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>>5359479
>>5359509

Well when I arrived, they had sold out of him anyways, so I got a new chair for Tailgate!

....I feel horrible about this.

>>5359657
I'm with ya man. We'll see if MP Primal turns peoples heads around

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I just found out about A3U's boxing day sale and literally everything I'm interested in is unavailable.

Are any other stores planing to have sales soon besides the TFSource one? I want to get my own Tailgate, but I'm such a cheapo

I know there are plans on making better hands and feet for CW Bruticus (I think from the same company that made the hands and feet for the other Combiners.)

What I'd really like is to have more weapons for him to hold, alongside a more impressive looking back cannon.

>>5359408
I think that was mostly hamhands. There's a lot of delicate moving parts.

>>5359749

Legends Shockwave is meant to be his gun.


How are the MMC Arcee-alikes in terms of quality, anyone got first hand experience? Looking at the Elita-1-alike. Salvia looks good color-wise, but she seems to be sold out of a lot of places.

>>5359749
you can always just buy the original Bruticus rifle, Scramble city toys used 5mm pegs

>>5359765
Nice little bots in both modes. Transformation is a bit of pain with lots of adjusting and wriggling parts around other parts with a bit of wiggle room on the alts for adjustments. Their head articulation is a bit limited due to that little spike on the back of the hover car. Poseability in the limbs is great and they all have a neat little ab crunch.

Elita is nice but plain in alt mode.
Saliva had a nice hammer and all the other weapons + flaps for the paradon medic coloured one.

If you're only going to get one, I'd say Saliva for all the extra and remolded bits, getting more from their price point.

Elita is there if you care about the character, just because your only other options for her are an energon Arcee bike repaint or a botcon screaming pink boat. She only comes with a bow and pistols, foregoing the swords most of the others have.

>>5359571

Are those all the QC issues they fixed? I never noticed any of these on my Leonidas.

>>5359717
good old electroshock therapy should cure the gay away.

>>5359571
>The problem I had with it is the massive QC issues. Its a big ball of loose, fragile joints.

Really? I've had the figure for months now and mine has been okay. Of course, given the delicate nature of the design, I try not to ham-hand it, so that may be why. People should treat this more like a Metal Build or some other high-end Chogokin figure instead of your usual Transformer.

>>5359514
>>5359515

Wiener. As in: Wiener sausage, ie, it's from Vienna (Wien).

>>5359939
Chogokins are usually ham hand friendly, no? they're so dense, i cant imagine them breaking

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>>5360016
No, Chogokins usually only have metal for the joints and as a counterweight in the ankles. I was thinking specifically of the DX Chogokin Macross Valkyries, which are super delicate. Anyone who says the MP Seekers (old or new) are prone to breakage haven't touched any of these figures yet.

>>5360050
>I was thinking specifically of the DX Chogokin Macross Valkyries, which are super delicate. Anyone who says the MP Seekers (old or new) are prone to breakage haven't touched any of these figures yet.

I've never heard of anyone breaking those though.

>>5360105
That's because the people who buy them are more used to that kind of figure. If you go to sites like Macross World, where they also talk about 3rd party TFs, you rarely ever see anyone break anything. That's because collectors of Japanese mecha toys are usually more careful about how they handle their figures than western TF fans, who usually collect no other robot figures other than Transformers and thus have no other benchmark to compare them to other than Hastak's stuff and other 3P figures. Point is, the fault of Leonidas was that it was advertised to the wrong target audience, and those people expecting this guy to pull off a kneeling pose in 10 seconds like your usual TF are much more likely to break it than someone who wants to observe how the joints work and take their time with each pose.

I wonder how long your usual TF fan can handle a Macross Valkyre without snapping off a panel.

>>5360050
>I was thinking specifically of the DX Chogokin Macross Valkyries
Ah, I was thinking of Soul of Chogokins. I have Gaogaigar and I cant ever see him breaking. It takes effort just to hold the damn thing up, let alone break it!

>>5360050 #
And you just proved you never handled the old MP Seekers. They ARE fragile due to bad engineering, some parts WILL break for sure over time if you transform them, no matter how delicate and careful you are. The MP11 mold adresses these issues.

>>5360241
Makes sense actually, since it was designed by the Macross guy

>>5360241
>And you just proved you never handled the old MP Seekers.

I actually have the old Wal-Mart Exclusive MP Skywarp, and the fairly old TRU Thundercracker, so I actually do have both Seeker molds to compare with. I will say that the engineering is rather finicky in some areas (like the lack of a proper locking mechanism for the hip area), but they are both at least three times more solid and easier to Transform than the Macross stuff. Funny that you mention the new mold being better because the plastic quality on my Thundercracker is actually worse and there already stress marks where there shouldn't be. Regardless, it's still a solid figure.

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What are some good 3P figures, Anon's? What would you recommend? Cheaper ones are better in my case, but I'm just curious to see what people like. I don't own any 3P figures yet, but I'm probably going to purchase a full Feral Rex set and the Funpub Dinobot's in the coming month(s).

I've been looking otherwise at Iron Factory's Miko (just because it's cute), MMC's Commotus and Hexatron.

I'm kind of a poorfag though, Feral Rex alone is going to be ballbustingly expensive for me and I honestly shouldn't be buying it, but meh.

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>>5360328
>Iron Factory's Miko
She's the only one of those I can speak of, but she's pretty great. The shoulders are kind of limited, but she's got really good articulation for something so small. She also goes well with combiners. I've heard nothing but good things about spartan/commotus though, I'm picking one up next time I have the money to spare.

>>5360328
Pro tip: In a 3P thread FP stands for FansProject.

Any Canadians might want to look on Ages 3 and Up's site. A lot of sales, particularly on their in-stock Fans Toys Dinobots.

I got the G2 Scoria for $90 off.

The sale ends tonight at midnight EST.

Sorry if this is shilling, just want to help out some Canadanons who are suffering under that shit dollar.

>>5360377
Thank you for the heads up.

Sadly, I won't be able to get anything at this time.

When will the CAD stop being total shit?

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>>5360442
>door wings on balljoints
I have no idea why this excites me so much. I can't tell anything about the feet though, which is what I was probably most curious about.

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>>5360377

I've got my eye on a few things. Are the MMC DJD figures usually that price? If not, I might drop on Anarchus and Cynicus. Or even Commotus.

>>5360462
Good luck, because they're all out of stock.

>>5360328
>>5360376

I actually did mean the FansProject Dinobots. Damn. So many different companies.

>>5360462
>>5360467

Yep, this. Went in this morning to their physical location only 15 after opening and my stop at Tim's limited my selection heavily. Most people were grabbing Dinobots purely because they were so cheap. Basically everything but MMC's fembots and older combiners and hastak stuff got cleared out. Was lucky to get what I got with all the other nerds that were more prepared getting there early.

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Kind of irritated that no one's made a non-SD head for Master Made Titan yet, I figured that was a sure thing when the figure first came out.

>>5360653
That looks retarded.

>>5347057
When's that g2 grimlock model kit coming out? Was hoping to get it in the mail soon for a belated Christmas gift soon but if it's not coming for 3 weeks that might be awkward.

>>5360653
Now that I've had him for awhile, the smaller head looks really weird...

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Such autistic salt.

>>5360796
Meant to say g1 not g2. posting from mobile is so annoying at times.

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>>5360827

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>>5360827

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>>5360827

Looks like some little shit is bum rummaged about people having standards. I'm sorry that I chose to dump my cash into the shit that actually looks worthwhile.

I mean you still get awful looking third party trash but hell the official stuff has started integrating hollow gaps into sculpted detail and creating their own greeble shit hell. Just look at CW Swindle. We're getting to the point where the turds are starting to claw at Takara's masterpiece mantle at similar price points.

>>5360827
>>5360909

I don't get how people can get mad about that kind of stuff.

I can understand maybe about the prices, or if the quality is shit (especially at those prices holy fuck!), or if theres some sort of glaring flaw with a particular toys, but just being mad they exist?

>>5360917
Some people get too emotionally attached to companies and will irrationally defend, or this case attack for them, out of sheer love of Product. Take a look at people getting mad at people criticizing Valve for the recent Steam caching privacy breach for another example.

>>5360978

Maybe I just was taught differently, then. The guy in the rant pic up there sounds like he had shitty parenting.

You chastise for fuckups, praise for good things, and ignore if it doesn't have what you want.

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>>5360449

Nothing to worry about with foot articulation, looks like the ankles have plenty of tilt.

>>5360796
Supposed to come out in December. Dont see that happening, though...

>>5360653
It doesnt work that way, anon.
When you make an SD design, you dont just take a normal design and make the head bigger, you change up all the proportions to be stubbier and cuter, that's why that small head looks weird as fuck, just as >>5360788
>>5360800 say

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>>5360434
Soo.. what are the chances they'll sell this guy on his own?

>>5360273
You're missing the point. You can't compare something that will break if you use it wrong and something that will break if you simply use it. I own several Macross toys and while I do agree that they wouldn't last long in some hamhands, they would never break if transformed and posed right.

The MP-11 mold has no engineering issue leading to any breakage, if you break it, it's either a matter of a building error/QC issue or you're simply using it wrong.

>>5360827
>people are wrong for calling most official stuff kiddy crap
Holy shit that's some retard.

Is Toymoda safe to buy from? I wanna get a KO FP Protector from them.

>>5361293

The toys are definitely for kids, theres no argument there, when it comes to official stuff.

The comics packed with them though, not so much.

>reading one of the CW issues
>references to torture, outright maiming, death, some human gets his neck snapped

Wouldn't let my young kids read that shit, the fuck is Hasbro thinking, the IDW comics aren't for kids.

>>5361291
>I own several Macross toys and while I do agree that they wouldn't last long in some hamhands, they would never break if transformed and posed right.

So like most 3rd party figures.

>>5361556
Not really, most 3P stuff I've handled, and I handled a lot, are pretty solid.

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Fuck, this guy is fucking beast, it just looks so good.

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>>5360348
She great little figure, Blaster is okay. Hell I had her riding Legends Groove in bike mode.

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Anyword on whats been taking Gladius so long? They said fall so I was hoping to be able to see reviews up by now and maybe nab him after christmas but hes still sitting on preorder and the years almost over

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>>5361652
She works great with Metroplex

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>>5361719
>tfw I look up Metroplex prices
>Utopia is about the same cost now

Goddamn.

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>>5361780
I seen the Takara version still floating around some places.

Are there any good Primes in the 7 inch range? All the ones I have so far are either too big or too small.

>>5361632
Facesculpt doesn't really look like or suit Prowl. Not really sure what's off though, but such a shame, the body looks great.

>>5361652
>>5361719
If only the tits didn't look so weird.

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>>5361988
For a second, I thought you where talking about Metroplex's tits

>>5361611
>>5361636
They really should have given Bluestreak the smiling face. He's supposed to be the jokey one.

>>5362050
Metroplex has nice perky square tits, I got no complaints about those.

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>>5362142
>Metroplex has nice perky square tits, I got no complaints about those.

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>>5360827
Has to be allspark.

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>decided to spend Christmas money and jump on board
>see this after ordering first figure

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>>5362493

>>5362493
>>5362500
That is less than optimal.

I need good Decepticons, preferrably that fit along with CHUG. What would you say are the best third party ones?

>>5362516

I don't own any yet, but I'm looking at Feral Rex pretty damn hard for some CHUG Predacon's.

>>5362569

Aha, jokes on you I already have Feral Rex! And a Granville, but he ended up being too much on the small side at 7" at the head. Its been hell trying to find a Prime that doesn't tower over him OR look like a manlet. [spoiler]Robotlet?[/spoiler]

I don't have any others besides those though. Where as I have probably have most of the Generations Autobots and a bunch of third party ones..

>>5362790

I've seen people recommend Apolloyon (sp?), but he looks like his arm/leg transformation bits would snap with the slightest mishandling.

Commotus looks cool. So does Hexatron.

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>>5361611
>>5361617
>>5361632
>>5361636

my gods, they be beautiful.

>>5362790

MMC's recent comic stuff are some quality cons (Cynicus, Anarchus, Commotus).

FP insecticons. Either versions but the Deluxe set are cheap and make good foot soldiers.

If you want big constructicons you could go with Toyworld, Generation Toy, or Hasbro/Takara.

>>5362848
MMC's Fembots are nice too. I'm going with Planet X for my CHUG Dinobots, I prefer the video game aesthetic.

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Did KFC's Captain Shark just outright kill any chance of 3rd party Brave toys? You'd think Maketoys or some of the other Japanese companies that grew up with that stuff would be inclined, especially since the Hasbro embargo on Brave toys still exists to this day. Not even a Shadowmaru repaint/remold of Hexatron was made despite it being a piss easy job to do so.

Considering how popular the SRCs of them were, especially GGG and Might Gaine, it's gotta be sorta worth it...

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>>5362905
I honestly think that might be the case, which sucks cause his aesthetic is completely uglier than the real Captain Shark.

Shadowmaru not being a thing yet is weird, he was teased alongside Greatshot, but Greatshot's toy is already out...

Also i don't know fi its hasbro's fault that theres no Brave toys now, pretty sure its because of the takara tomy merger. before the merger, the Brave Revival line was a thing, but then they canceled it.

>Considering how popular the SRCs of them were
As much as I love Braves, I dont think the SRCs were that popular, only one that didnt go on sale later was GGG, everyone else you could get 40% off. For a while you could buy five dollar Choryujins from HLJ... its sad, no?

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>>5363031

Greatshot did take forever to get release. There were two other Hexatron variants that were not announced before Greatshot and Shadowmaru that was released.

I'm still hoping for Shadowmaru, since he's an instant buy for Me.

I'd also love for a 3P Goldran.

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>>5363037
As much as I love Shadowmaru, I wouldnt buy the MMC one. That toy barely looks like Sixshot, let alone Shadowmaru.

Call me when he gets an animation accurate SRC...

>>5363048
I don't think it's even possible to have a six changer with that level of Bari aesthetics. Much as I wish it, best I think they could do in retaining that shape would be some 600+ Sentinel thing like their Dancouga.

>>5363031
Yeah, I'd love to have him but that headsculpt is just plain wrong for the character, totally off putting.
Also figured the toys are all dead due to the same reason Braves can't be featured in SRW or other crossover games, just because every series save I believe GGG, has at least one of a transformers character in the cast. Though if Deathsaurus Wars become a thing and someone besides to make a Death Geist out of it, I'd lose my shit. Hell even just Takara making one to go with their old-ass Exkaiser MP would be fucking awesome.

>>5363031
Yeah the retail GGG SRCs go on firesale every major sale event at HLJ and Hobby Search and afterwards they still manage to have some left for the next one. Maybe TT could get better results with a different approach but if Bandai gets those sorts of results with one of their collector lines then I can see why TT would shy away from them at least for the time being. It's kind of a shame, they're not bad efforts, though stripped of the transformation and combination gimmicks I suppose they lose some appeal which would go some way to explaining them bombing. SoC GGG seems to have done well enough though, maybe that might change some minds.
>>5363054
Speaking of Brave MPs, I'm kinda curious what would have happened had they kept up with the subline. I've got SoC GGG and it's a thing of beauty but I find myself wondering what an MP GGG would be like, it would make for an interesting comparison I think.

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>>5363065
At least some of them like Fire J Decker and Great Might Gaine might have just been impossible to make look good, considering the nature of vehicle hunks just sort of.....hanging off limbs. But seeing stuff like Fire Dagwon, Goldran and Might Gaine in proper proportions with modern engineering, would've been amazing too see, especially with how good SoC GGG turned out.

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>>5363054
Naah, he doesnt have to six change, its completely impossible with his design. I just want an action figure

>I'd love to have him but that headsculpt is just plain wrong for the character, totally off putting
Not only that but they also gave him like... clawed hands? what kind of Brave hero has claw hands?!
>>5363065
>what an MP GGG would be like
Not sure, but I cant see it beating SOC GGG. That thing is gorgeous. It makes me want SOC Transformers, that would be the bomb.

If we had an SOC Optimus, I bet it'd be able to make the wheels disappear in robot mode, like in the cartoon. I want MP Prime, but his aesthetic aint right I think

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>>5363068

Delicious Iron Factory.

>>5361667
my exact thoughts. bbts still has him down for december arrival.
that's obviously not happening.

Buying my first Turds. I picked up IF Maiden/Miko, IF Evil Lord, and MI Piston.

Are any of these good?

>>5360328
There's a KO Terminus Hexatron for $30 on Sirtoys

>>5363250
>IF Maiden/Miko, IF Evil Lord
Those are very good ones.

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>>5363096

Man, I'll never understand the hate some of you people put on Hexatron. "Doesn't look like Sixshot", it looks exactly what a WFC Sixshot would look like, with added ninja elements. "I just want an action figure" Hexatron is a kick ass action figure. The only things one could have against it is it's size (since he's closer to the old Leader class size) and the WFC-esque aesthetics.

Hex is still My all time favorite 3P figure.

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>>5363282
>it looks exactly what a WFC Sixshot would look like
it was never advertised as a WFC Sixshot though. I definitely see where you're coming from, but i dont think he's at home with that style. This thing is 100% Cassy Sark aesthetic. Boring detail, weird proportions, and a head that barely looks like Sixshot, with stubby wings to boot.

>Hexatron is a kick ass action figure
My dude, I meant an Super Robot Chogokin action figure. Super articulation that transforming toys cant accomplish.

I'm sure Hexatron's a good toy, i just dont like how he looks

>>5352533
>Nothing on the horizon which is weird. PE jumped on that shit and no one else really took a swing yet.
>Expecting 3Ps to do anything other than Masterpiece

>>5350743
Maketoys, Prime Airachnid.
With a pretooled Infestation Bayonet head.

>>5363282

But is he worth the price point i'm seeing everywhere? 'cause uh, he's pretty goddamn expensive now.

>>5363253

What's the likelihood of it exploding with the slightest mishap?

>>5363253

Any idea on the quality for their insecticons? I really want a set, but I can't decide between risking that or getting the off-color Armored Battalion set..

>>5350743

>MMC
>BW show accurate Black Arachnia complete with jiggle physics

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>>5363128

>mfw IF legend scale crap is more scale-accurate and consistent, better looking and better transforming toys

>>5363282
Is the continuum version worth the higher cost?

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>>5363065
>I've got SoC GGG and it's a thing of beauty but I find myself wondering what an MP GGG would be like, it would make for an interesting comparison
Heres an old picture of SoC GGG and MP Great Exkaiser. I would have loved for Masterpiece Brave to go longer than two entries.
Just enough to get the main mech from each series.

Don't worry they're in a much less dusty place now.

are there any yuropean online stores that sell 3p transformers?

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>>5363701

>>5363128

Is there gonna be some sort of Arcee by IF or something? I'm new to 3P stuff.

>>5363253

Isn't that some fugly all black version though?

>>5363627

Isn't he supposed to be like $130 bux? He's like 9 inches tall or so, isn't he?

>>5363629
I've heard it's good. Don't have it, though.

>>5363677
I've heard they're a little finnicky, and that the weapons are extremely sharp, but that they're perfectly serviceable.

>>5363787
Nah, they have a regular one, black one, and a few others.

>>5363785
Iron Factory is making a legends scale IDW Arcee, whereas DX9 is making a G1 Arcee in the same size.

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>>5363627
I got him the second he came out from BBTS for about $135. He's $140 now, so I think that'd be worth it.

>>5363707
IMO, no. Continuum is a minor change to make him look more G1, which seems to appeal to most people. But you lose out the ninjabot appeal, so no swords, no hidden shurikens, and he's more expensive now (he started at the same price as the other versions). But then, the continuum version never appealed to Me.

>>5363346
>it was never advertised as a WFC Sixshot
Yeah, it was. That's why the initial version had those pink grill highlights that TFW bitched about (and also why the continuum was made to look more G1, more TFW bitching). The fiction was always a what-if world based on early Furman-era IDW Cybertron.

I mean if it doesn't grab you, that's your right to feel. That really doesn't mean it's a bad toy, yet people shit on it for no good reason, just because 'muh opinions'.

...I really do need to take more pics of Hex, though.

>>5364236

I think he looks awesome. I just don't know if I can afford him.

Being poor sucks.

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>>5364268
He's too big, if that helps ease your pain. As it is, this thing is almost two heads taller than Generations Ultra Magnus.

>>5350743
Iron Factory
Legends scale Seacons, complete with Scramble City combination + Targetmaster gimmick, and a separate Scylla figure available in both her BWII colours and non-canon "normal" Seacon colours to match the G1 guys.

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>>5364432

Objectively wrong.

However,
>Transformers
>Scale
lol

How good/bad is the Clonedroid Sixshot?

>>5364483
Basing new toy sizes on old toy sizes is tremendously stupid, but I guess if you'd prefer a Voyager Metroplex, have fun with that.. Also, I didn't say anything about scale.

>>5364467
>non-canon "normal" Seacon colours to match the G1 guys.

Interesting idea. not sure if people would buy it though.

Though.. if that became a thing, it would make Piranacon a double Targetmaster!

>>5350743
>Toyworld(best classics aesthetics i guess?)
>CW-compatible Terrorcons

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>>5364432
>He's too big

a) He is MP scaled so he can work with MP UM.
b) He fits about right with CW Magnus either way. Both of them are out of scale with the CW Combiners.

>>5364236
do you have a combiner wars ultra magnus by any chance? would love to see them side by side

>>5364677
oh damn! excellent timing

>>5364677
you have the swords *and* the chrome guns? was there an add-on kit?

So I'm contemplating on getting 3rdparty Tailgate. Problem is I don't have a Henkei Cyclonus and if I'm going to bother looking for him, I'm wondering if the addons are worth it for him even if you transform him

>>5364698

The chrome guns and helmet was originally a pre-order bonus, but they did sell it as an add-on for a while too.

>>5364677
MP scale doesn't mean shit if it's not MP aesthetic. It's more along the lines of Classics aesthetics. And Sixshot isn't much taller than Megatron, so that's still too big.

>>5364701
To be honest I haven't gotten a chance to get my RTS Cyclonus out of storage in order to do the upgrade, and I might just wait until TFcon or Botcon to buy a spare.
Tailgate is great on his own, I absolutely love him to bits. He can also hold a lot of 1:12 scale items well, so figma accessories are fair game and even lightsabers work.

>>5364808
Now I'm really interested. Shame I don't have funds until February.

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So apparently a little bit of paint makes Commotus about twice as good. Tiny bit of paint on his shins and backplate make a world of difference and because of the nature of the plastic, take not much skill to apply. Figured I'd have to use pinstripe style pull brushstrokes but the excess paint outside of the panel lining just wipes away.

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>>5365027
Not too noticeable in bot mode but pops so hard in Metal Slug mode.

>>5365027
>>5365033

He's still ruined for me by having Mega Man tier legs but skinny arms and torso that don't match.

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More raging autism!

>>5365971
Allspark really is a 'tism quotes goldmine isn't it?

>>5365977
I know, I love it.

>>5364677
>a) He is MP scaled so he can work with MP UM.
How is that possible since MP UM isn't MP scale?

>>5366258
In what way is he not MP scaled? He's the same size cab as Prime, can carry MP cars and transforms into a robot that's bigger than Prime. All the correct size requirements are there.

>>5362493

>>major joint with like 2mm of plastic

dammit japan stop that

>>5366650
It's a knock off, ya moran

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>buy first 3P
>open box
>see this

welp