Why is getting A LOT of players to actually roleplay during a

Because your skill at GMing comparable to your skill in dentistry

You'll realize this someday:

99.9% of players are shit people who are miserable to be around and ruin everything.

They can never, and will never, care about your game as much as you do, and they just want to be catered to while they act bored and uninterested.

>>45381624
Because playing pretend is really embarrassing for an adult.

Because it is far easier to roll a dice and imagine fat heroic feat you just did.
If you actually role play you have to put effort in talking, yet the accomplishment is far lower.

>>45381624
I have, and will continue to, blame vidya.

Also, it generally takes another player, not the gm, to get someone to rp.

Because your players are shit and you should shop around until you get ones who aren't

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>>45381714
>tfw solid group of responsible adults who love their roles and characters and have been strong for 5 years running

>>45381624
Having actually pulled someone's tooth out before, they are nothing alike.

There is less blood when you tear someone's tooth out.

>>45381786
Fun Fact: If you insist that you and/or your group is the exception to the rule, the truth is you're not and you're just too shit to realize how shit you are, and since you're a group of shit people getting together and being shit together, you have fun, but that doesn't make you a good group or good players.

>>45381732
This senpai. Search your heart, you know it to be TRUE.

>>45381810
Someone is awful upset.

>>45381810
>NO ONE CAN BE DIFFERENT WHEN I THROW MY IMPOSSIBLE STATISTICS AROUND

Kill urself

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>>45381810
Hahaha, yikes. Triggered.

>>45381810
Black coffee bitter
100% raw cocoa bitter

...help me out guys I can't think of any more.

>>45381810

>ur fun is bad
>not even badwrongfun
>not even funisbuzzword

get it together anon

>>45381916
Never said they weren't having fun or their fun was bad.

I said they're shit players, because it's statistically more likely that a group of shit people has fun together and is convinced they're not shit than there being a group of actually decent players.

>>45381624
People have different standards for what constitutes roleplaying. You might be into putting on accents and acting out your character's emotional turmoil, but your players might prefer to dispassionately describe their character approaches whatever fictitious conundrum you've put to them. Find a happy medium.

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>>45381950
Rump Ragnarok'd.

>>45381888
you're making coffee wrong if it's bitter

>>45381965
fuck you kouhai

>>45381888
grapefruit is pretty bitter, but I like the taste

>>45381950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwNtau3gOs

>>45381950
*they're

That one's free, friend!

>>45381957
>actually bothering with live RP when you could be beer and chips and a movie when friends together
>not doing RP online by textchat games

>>45381950
Friendly reminder, -134.75 + 76 - 2 / 4 * 8 + 12 % of statistics are made up on the spot.

>being this assmad

>>45382013
>Being so inbred that you can only possibly have fun with people in the same room if you're drinking beer and watching a movie

...why are you even playing games?

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>>45382036
It turns out I can have multiple hobbies and activities, and allocate my time to make that possible and enjoyable. It's a novel concept, I know.

Turns out RP is way easier to schedule, and so the players end up much more invested, when you just run an online chatgame.

>>45381810
>If you insist that you and/or your group is the exception to the rule
>the rule

Well, you're the one making up that rule, so perhaps what you are saying is absolute bullshit.

>>45382080
You're not making a case for yourself not being retarded. You're just posting smug pictures and saying "I have a real life so clearly text RP is superior".

>>45381979
nah. coffee should be like tar with amphetamines, and make the throat bleed from bitterness

>>45381950

You know you're implicated in your own statistical argument right?

Also it seems like you think good is a qualitatively measurable part of rpgs that is independent of fun. That's fucking retarded.

>>45382013
well actually these days I mostly do play through text on the internet, and it's interesting to see how you get a different quality of RP from it. In-person games are still fun in a way sitting at the computer doesn't quite match though.

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>>45382108
Hey I'll be a retard all day, whatever makes you happy honey, but I don't got a ruptured colon trying to furiously backpedal from being called out on being a bitter angry nerd.

>>45382123
sure, and a curry should be so hot you need ten minutes between each bite. spare us your culinary machismo.

>>45381624
Amateurs.
The group I play with just finished the story that took 4 years to tell.
We just started a new campaign.
6 experienced players rp so much that sometimes the DM wants us to shut up. Good times.

>>45382172
I agree. It's just too hard to have an ideal group who can also come in person every week for a game. Much easier for everyone when it's coordinated text online. Brings a lot more detail to the game as well.

>>45381888
Biting down on a clove bitter.

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>>45382202
>tfw the party starts to just yammer, bully, and banter at each other for like 10 minutes
>the palpable relief that gives you a precious second to scramble notes around and maybe type in the occasional NPC quip to fuel them further

>>45382212

mix with a cocktail bitter

>>45381624
Because you suck at dentistry?
I got decent dentist, each of my 4 wisdom teeth took him under a minute. And it was for free.

>>45382243
Straight absinthe bitter.

>>45382239
>type

I'm laughing at you.

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>>45381732
>>45381831

>playing pretend is really embarrassing for an adult
>implying you're not playing pretend to being a responsible adult just to through the day until you finally die

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>>45382277
Then I'm laughing with you because I love having a successful long-running game that I look forward to playing in every week.

>>45382294

its a double blind tho because playing pretend earnestly will out that you're playing pretend constantly. Pride's fucking weird.

>>45382367
>Text
>Game

You have a chatroom where you watch Youtube videos while you wait for your turn to type paragraphs about *teleports behind you*.

>>45382385
He's the GM.
And he's typing up notes.
You silly billy.

>>45382385
No, I have a Roll20 campaign file where I play for a night every week. I'm sorry that's your kind of behavior and habits in a game. You don't sound like a good player.

>>45382199
>curry should be so hot you need ten minutes between each bite
Only if you're a britbong who thinks that food having tiered flavor profiles is badwrong. Or you're some pleb who refuses to eat any curry type other than Japanese.

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>nationalism-fueled culinary dick-waving fight

Oh dis thread gonna be good

>>45382467
Yeehaw cowboy, let's turn eating into another competition! Why does everything need to be a dick measuring contest for you burgers? It's not enough to have a beer, it needs to be a triple IPA that's more hops than wheat.

PS, that floppy yellow stuff you put on everything isn't real cheese.

>>45382507
What the fuck did I just watch

>>45383599
>What the fuck

Looks like a parody of food porn commercials

>>45383599
An SNL skit.

>>45381624
Because normal people play RPGs just to shoot the shit and make jokes, not hone their acting skills.

>>45384276
Yeah, normal people join Drama Club to just hang out and laugh, not to act.

Normal people collect Warhammer armies to just pelt them at eachother's faces, not to learn the rules.

This is what normal people do. If you're not doing that, you're wrong.

>>45384276
>Because normal people play RPGs just to shoot the shit and make jokes,

So why not just watch a movie or sports together or something?

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>>45384316
>Normal people collect Warhammer armies

>>45384336
Because they sperg out at the loud noises.

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>>45381810
It's okay anon. Whatever those people did to you in the past, they can't hurt you anymore.

>>45381714

Wow, someone's projecting.

>>45381810

Damn, I browse /v/ and even I've yet to see someone this bitter about a hobby they supposedly enjoy.

>>45381624

A lot of it has to do with WHY the player is at the table. RPGs offer a quite wide range of experiences.

A lot of players are there to basically do tactical combat, have cool class combinations, roll big numbers and win fights. They enjoy playing badasses, or they like the "puzzle solving" aspect of, like, trying to figure out traps or the system mastery aspect of CharOp.

Others are there to be parts of stories they like, to see what the GM's come up with this week and follow a narrative. Neither one of this is right or wrong (you could also argue there are even more reasons to play), but the former is less likely to "roleplay" (according to the typical definition) compared to the latter, and even then the latter is going to be roleplaying better LATER ON in the game than they are at the start because it takes a while for numbers on a sheet to become "a character"

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>>45381624
You want an approximately correct answer?
Because you don't know them well enough that they feel comfortable acting weird.
You question implies that you've been trying many groups. Probably you're playing at conventions or online. The intimacy level is that of a co-worker, if even.
If you want people to role-play you have to play with your friends AND give them time to get comfortable with the concept.

>>45384341
>normal people play rpgs

>>45382385

You know you can roll dice online, right? I don't care how hard somebody types *teleports behind you*, I tell them the actual results as the GM based on them numbers.

I do dig some free form faggotry outside of combat though, and combat embellishment is always fun.

>>45381624
Improv acting is a skill it takes years to develop and most people just want to play a fucking game?

>>45382123
Just do meth you fucking faggot.

>>45381810

The other replies to your post are very revealing. None of them are able to rebut you, they just try desperately to seem cool and casual in their replies despite the MASSIVE cognitive dissonance they must be feeling.

>inb4 "s-s-s-s-samefag..." defence

>>45381736
>Also, it generally takes another player, not the gm, to get someone to rp.

Bullshit. Have you even played anything other than vidya? Players interact with GM-acted NPCs all the time.

>>45382185
>I may be a cunt but u mad XD
>le reaction face XD

>>>/v/

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>>45381810
Came into this thread to laugh at you

>>45387294
>inb4 samefag defense
Aw crap, now that you've said that I'm incapable of pointing out how obvious it is that you're samefagging.

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>>45381810
Who hurt you anon?

Protip: People have different playstyles and games they want to play. If you're "getting" your players to roleplay while you're GMing you are probably literally the worst. You don't even get good RP that way. Find a different group. You have the internet, you have no excuse.

Also stop playing DnD or whatever if you are. This system is not conducive to good RP.

>>45388346

Think OP just needs an incentive for people to roleplay. I've used incentives before that helped people role play.

For example. If your game involves rolling dice for non combat actions (intimidation, bartering, climbing, etc) then let them use words rather than dice. If they can give a good enough argument to your NPC or describe their action well enough you give them an automatic success, if they don't then you get them to roll a die.

I've found this system encourages role playing by taking away random elements and giving an advantage to players who do role play.

>>45389249
The point of the matter is that players who want to roleplay will roleplay regardless of incentive. You're only going to fuck with their roleplay by providing intrusive "incentive".

And players who don't want to roleplay wont roleplay well regardless. Trying to twist their arm into doing something they don't want to do only winds up with neither party getting what they want and nobody has a good time.

>But I'm the GM! My fun is important to!
Absolutely. Find a different group that actually suits your playstyle, rather than trying to force your friends to do something you want them to. It really isn't as difficult as many make it out to be and I'm a socially awkward introvert.

>>45381624
Because your players suck.

Better to quarantine as opposed to treat in most cases.

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>>45381810
Lol

I personally have a hard time getting in a role because I'm afraid to speak up. Like I can roleplay with text, but I'm just scared to roleplay with voice and I want to break out...anyone know this?

>>45382254
That one Triggered Anon's pathetic life bitter?

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>>45381810
This is edger than my 40k shark-man character with 5 knives.

>>45382507
IT JUST KEEPS GOING

>>45382507
Being the swine I am, I'd probably eat that

>>45391709
>Being the American I am, I'd probably eat that

Fixed that for you

>>45385995
I don't understand why so many people are so insistent on people roleplaying when they don't want to. The best GMs I've had have insisted on getting a feel for the players before writing up the setting, and sometimes you have to find where your group sits on the scales between action and immersion. I've recently been running a group, and I find they react far better to interesting combat and encounter with only minimal interaction with important and interesting characters. It also seems to have a lot to do with the engine: if you say you're running a combat heavy rpg like d&d and expect people to make a noncombat character you may need to have your head surgically removed from your anus.

>>45392266
>if you say you're running a combat heavy rpg like d&d and expect people to make a noncombat character you may need to have your head surgically removed from your anus.

Seems a bit stupid to conflate expecting people to roleplay with expecting people to make a noncombat character in a game that's generally about characters fighting in life or death situations.

But the point about expecting people to roleplay when they don't want to is a pretty valid one. Everyone comes to the table to get a different need (or needs) fulfilled. It's hard to change player behaviour, and sometimes you're going to have to work towards appeasing the audience you've got, rather than the audience you wish you had.

>>45391934
I am a muslim vegan European and I would try that. Probably would collapse after several bites, but whatever.

>>45381624
Usually when I act in character the GM and/or the other players do their best to stop my character from doing it.

>>45392482
You need better characters.

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>>45392482
They stop your character?
How can your character be in-character?

>>45389363
>The point of the matter is that players who want to roleplay will roleplay regardless of incentive. You're only going to fuck with their roleplay by providing intrusive "incentive".

This. My friends and I realized this after playing AdEva, which has roleplaying incentives built in. You get luck points for roleplaying aspects of your character's personality/interests which you decide on during chargen. It sounds good on paper, but soon enough we realized it's actually disrupting RP, because we were forced to work those aspects into conversations as often as possible to regenerate luck.

>>45387041
>Do theatre for over a decade.
>Doing stuff on and off stage
>Think improve is the best thing since sliced bread
>Actually get to play the rpg books I've been reading for years at uni
>Move to fast, hit walls of mums and ahhs
>GMs love it but accidentally overshadow others

Having to regulate yourself for the good of the game is the worst feeling but can be vital.

>>45383196
I'm a septic, and after years abroad I returned to the US to find that my body no longer digests processed cheese properly.

>>45394683
>processed cheese
You mean that rubbery substitute?

>>45394710
Probably.
A lot of people don't actually understand what "American cheese" is and assume it's that fake, plastic "American flavored cheese product" that Craft makes.
American Cheese is a blend of Cheddar and Colby. It is processed in that they are blended together, but it's definitely not "fake".

>>45389815
Happens to tons of people.
I've been playing/GMing for years over table but I'm experimenting with a small text-only group.
Really cool to use narrative punctuation and everyone stays in character. Far easier to say/do what I would have said over the noise of 5+ people at the table.

>>45381642
>kek

I've been having major problems keeping a roll20 game going.

People just ghost like crazy. Sometimes they have a legit complaint, or the game isn't for them, they say as much and leave. That's somewhat fair, although they knew fully well what to expect going in. But others... they'll be completely involved, posting stuff in the forums, chatting with the others, then poof, gone. Having such a procession of characters arriving and leaving is just wrecking the narrative to justify it all. It's harshly demoralizing.

>>45381624
Because you keep killing our associated NPCs, scuffle your feet or purposefully talk over us when we talk "too long" IC, accuse us of holding up the campaign when our PCs don't follow obviously dangerous IC clues like good little sheep and meme about snowflakes whenever we deviate from the sword and board fighter.

It's not a good time to be a role player.

>>45387294
Because people would rather talk about food and post reaction faces than get into the philosophical discussion about what 'good' is. I think that 'good' is situational, so your statement was both true and false depending on the circumstances.

>>45394710
I think 'substitute' is a bit generous

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>>45381810

>>45381624
Because not everyone digs the am dram shit. If you want bad Scottish laddie-speak and terrible quantities of forsoothery go join your university's Shakespeare society.

>>45396134
I want to force your DM to watch the Transformer movies.

I just want to roll dice and see how fast I can kill a dragon

Why do we always have to deal with your gay ass romance plots or your faggy boring moral dilemmas while talking like homolords

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>>45396334
Someone is going to get booty-barbed real bad by your insensitive comment!

>>45396367
Oooh, can I go first?

You know you can roll dice and run statistics at home, right? It seems that you want validation with minimal involvement. Have you tried Warhammy?

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>>45381810
I don't even know where to begin with, your statement is so fucking retarded you could give it to liberal arts majors and even they wouldn't be able to find a way to twist it around and give it any 2deep4u sense other than you being more assblasted than Hitler finding out the jews raised the cost of gas.

>>45381624
IMHO you need at least one player that is actually roleplaying, then you can get the rest in on it. It can be awkward to start something when you are only one side of the conversation, and it typically feels forced from your end too.

Having your players answer some basic questions about the characters, their personalities and goals should also flesh out the voice they will want to give them too.