How do you do a Chaotic Neutral character right?

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>>45379923

>>45379923
Character who has no inclinations to follow the law/actively rebels against it and does a mix of good and evil things, plus things that clearly aren't one or the other.

>>45379923
You don't. The only way to do them right, is not to give any consideration to anything. You are a force of undeniable chaos. You are unpredictable even in your unpredictability. Do not consider your actions, or inaction. Do anything you have the slightest inclination to do to your fullest ability. You must have no self control, and the force of will required to become a psionic. In fact, just be a psionic.

>>45379923
Two ways. Either as lolrandom chaotic shitlord, or a dude who values freedom so much as to free slaves and rightfully charged prisoners with the same reckless abandon.

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>>45379923

>>45379923
Do it politically.

>>45380381
>Anarchists
Close enough I guess

>>45379983
deadpool is fucking dumb
Americans don't know that a bit of absurdity is funny while overdoing the stupidity of a character is, you guessed it, absurd and stupid. It has reached a point in which he is family guy "lelsorandum" humor that is cringeworthy

>>45380380
certainly closer to CN than deadpool

in my opinion CN is more of a lifestyle than alignment, doing whatever you want while not caring about the moral implications of it. Mercenaries, Thieves, and Assassins would likelier than not be CN.

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Most reasonable answer so far here.

>>45380421
>He's only read Way's run
You poor man

>>45380261
>You don't. The only way to do them right, is not to give any consideration to anything. You are a force of undeniable chaos.
Not unless you're a CN creature with the [Chaos] subtype, you're not.

Mortal LN characters aren't fucking Modrons or Inevitables.

>>45379983
No.

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>>45380261
>>45380345
Kill yourselves.

>>45379923
The thing to remember is you don't need to be more Chaotic than CG or CE characters. Just, you know, not good or evil.

You like to be free; you don't like being told what to do. You like to tweak the nose of authority. You might help make other people free, especially if the person bossing them about pisses you off, but you're devoted to helping others. If you want something, you'll be inclined to take it, but you'll try, usually, not to be prick about it.

Han Solo in most of a New Hope (he turns CG at the end) is CN.

>>45383732
> but you're devoted to helping others

Urgh. Missed a "not" out this sentence, because I'm an idiot.

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>>45379923
pic related

>Look after number one and number one lasts a lot longer

>>45379923
Maybe a character that lives larger than life to create a long lasting legacy.

Why does everyone feel that need to play CN as lolrandom bullshit? I think CE and CN are the only alignments I would ever think of restricting. Though I'm not big enough of a faggot to do it

>>45379923
being a wildcard without being full blown crazy

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BO LEVAR MOTHERFUCKERS

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>>45383732
reminder that (most) CN characters are real human beans, not agents of madness.

>>45379952
>>45380544
>>45383853
these guys have it right

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Read Nyarlathotep, then do that enough said

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>>45385652

>>45385652
Isn't Nyarly Chaotic Evil?

>>45379923

Alternatively, have a character that actually kinda does give a fuck about morality. Just, he's weak to temptation, and while he wants to be good, he just can't get past his own bad nature. He does some good deeds, but they're not enough to cancel out his bad deeds. But at the same time, when he decides to go "fuck it, let me be evil," his better nature gets in the way and he can't go through with it because he actually *does* have a conscience.

Honestly, if you want to portray an edgelord as a real character with actual problems and flaws that aren't cool instead of embracing the edge and constantly trying to nothing personnel, CN is an awesome alignment for that. The trick is to not actually portray your edgelord as "right." Make it clear that your fellow party members should be rolling their eyes IC.

tl;dr instead of not caring about morality, care about it but just barely fail it or pass with a D-.

>>45386019
Nyarlathotep has no alignment. He just is.

Revolver Ocelot is CG

>>45379923
You don't. It's way too fucking annoying to play with CN or CE characters in your party.

>>45379923
One word: uninhibited.

Selfish is how I chaotic neutral. Not devilishly evil, just good old regular selfishness. Still have a conscience, stay aware of the laws, but never really pay them much mind until the threat of them is overwhelming. Do good when it feels good, do bad when it feels good.

You do what is in your interests only. You do not act out of a desire to help others, unless it is your personal desire to help that specific person. Laws and morality are not rules you set upon yourself, but rather what others place upon you.

>>45379923
Chaotic Neutral is hard for a lot of people, but it's really not that hard.

Chaos in Chaotic Neutral means "I'm completely fine with breaking the law". However, they aren't evil, which means that they aren't out to harm others, and tend to have some standards. This lends itself well to:

>Morally ambiguous outlaws
>Laissez-faire capitalists
>War profiteers
>People seeking revenge
>Anti-authoritarian idealists
>Mercinaries

So pretty much just play Kaz. Kaz is the perfect example of chaotic neutral.

>>45388851
No way, sure he good intentions, wanting to stop the conspiracy and all, but he also wanted to create a world of chaos simply because it was a world he understood, and even his desire to stop the patriots was pretty selfish.

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>>45379923
Its weird how noone has said this yet, but a chaotic neutral character should be a character that HAS some kind of significant personal "code" that isn't directly linked to the general rules and regulations of society but instead to their own selfish whims or personal semantics.

Like, a lawful character charged with defending a town will buckle down and defend the town, a neutral character will measure the potential losses with the potential gains, and a chaotic character may do it if, say, "The price was right", and may not do it if "Those people are pricks", but only in the context of his own personal feelings on the worth of money or what makes these people pricks

>>45379923
Not just playing chaotic good.

>>45383732
Han Solo and Malcolm Reynolds would be good examples, although both are kind of in denial about being good.

Alignment charts would be easier understood if
>Good/Evil
Were replaced with
>Moral/Amoral
While Chaotic would be replaced by Selfish/Indulgent.

Lawful is fine, as it's the best single-word descriptor I can think of, but people need to understand that it's not only about following governmental laws, it's about following some sort of code that you believe in, and not giving into selfish desires if they contradict the laws you believ in/follow.

>>45379923
I had a CN character who had just given up on everything.
Laws? Fuck it. People are idiots.
Good? Morality is for idiots.
Evil? Self-serving bullshit.

His personal storyline was all about finding something to care about again. He stayed CN, because ideals were still beyond him, but people can actually be rather ok.

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>>45379923
Just remember that Chaotic Neutral does not mean Chaotic Stupid. A Chaotic Neutral character is likely to do anything, but this isn't because they're "crazy" or "lul so randumb! XD", but because they do not subscribe to the structure of law, nor to the morals of "good" and "evil". They do what is the most beneficial for themselves, and most often only themselves.

They certainly have the capacity for being helpful, kind, and generous, but at the same time can be cruel and unkind if it were to benefit them in the end. But never are their end goals nefarious, otherwise they would simply be Neutral Evil.

An easy way of thinking about Chaotic Neutral is "A free spirit with extremely selfish tendencies, but the capacity to be good willed or malevolent".

>>45379923
I play a Chaotic Neutral character somewhat like Riddick.

Cares more for his and his allies' survival than for morality or even for anyone else's well-being. If he helps strangers, don't expect it to be for kindness' sake.

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IMO every actively researching wizard should be neutral chaotic.

3x3 personality grid was a mistake.

>>45379923
Bronn from ASOIAF

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This is how I played chaotic neutral, whether it's right or not I don't care, it was fun.

>Self interested first and foremost
>People who end up very close to him become extensions of himself in his eyes and are extended the same considerations, otherwise he won't really give a shit
>Prideful to a fault
>Comes up with plans quickly
>Extreme developments aren't much of a hindrance no matter the context
>Will do what he feels like as long as it doesn't interfere with his life
>Tends to be too curt and dismissive in every day life
>Desires a death on the battlefield
>Needs independence
>Constantly weighing his position against everyone else
>Struggles with his self image and escaping the past, resents that other people had anything to do with who he is
>Will act morally if not doing so would tarnish his self image, basically has to be shoved into a position to do so though
>Potential gain has to be high for him to bother acting immorally, he will avoid dishonouring himself unless he really wants something

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>>45379923

>>45385652
So i need to hypnotist people and make them watch a movie and then have demons squat evily on people head. Then when one guy cry this is all fake toss them out and make them drown themselves in the ocean?

>>45393638
wat

>>45388918
Seconded, my CN character is an unscrupulous businessman. If he finds it in his best interest to work for the lords or a criminal syndicate, he will do it if he can get away with it. If it inflates his ego or affords him protection, he will play Robin Hood.

>>45393623
Certainly in his early game. Like black swordsman and the conviction arc. But everything else he's more of a Neutral Good or Chaotic Good.

>>45393475
Yer doin it right

Old Shaw Bros kung fu movies have a lot of characters that fit the bill without being random stupid.

>>45379923
Pic unrelated amirite?

>>45380544
That's pretty Deadpool though.

>>45383630
Why? I'm second anon. Also, purely as matter of course, go fuck yourself.