Modern is currently fucked refugee edition.
Best T1 play
Sekkrit sideboard tech
Playing Reanimator and Junk.
I don't know what I'm building. I got some mentors because I think the card is busted but I don't want to play miracles. Maybe Esper.
Best turn 1 play is ye ole petal entomb reanimate. Otherwise probably fetchland into DRS for Junk.
Esper Standstill, RUG Delver
want to try Oath but not really in the mood for buying Grizzles right now
>Best T1 play
Land, Lotus, JtMS
(Or any T1 Energy Flux against artifact-based memedecks)
Reliquary Tower in the mainboard makes Standstill stalemates way more one-sided, although I cut it when reconfiguring the manabase to move to Esper. Why? Because Illness in the Ranks is a filthy sideboard card and Demonic Tutor grabs it or any of the many brutal hate cards available in white
If someone refuses to play against me when I'm using a proxy deck I ask them if they ever play online using cockatrice. Then I ask them if they own every card they use with the program. Some people actually do...
So eternal general, I just pulled pic related. Sell now or hold?
Yep, thats a sweeping change. Anything that used to PRODUCE colorless mana now make 'waste' mana (which is still colorless, you're just giving it a special name). That includes shit like Sol Ring.
Old costs are still generic mana, obviously.
DnT for legacy
I got UW tron and Elves for pauper.
Nope, the Oath cards are even easier to use in eternal because of all the colorless mana creators. Not that they SHOULD be used, they're not quite strong enough, but they can be.
Building BUG Delver for Legacy atm. How does my list look and what should my sideboard look like for unknown meta?
4 Force of Will
2 Spell Pierce
3 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
Looks pretty streamlined.
For the SB, Sylvan Library to win the long game. Flusterstorm and Thoughtseize for combo. Golgari Charm for tokens/elves/D&T. Then whatever graveyard hate you fancy.
I might want 2+ hymns main. As for your sideboard, consider your matchups. Probably a sylvan library, maybe a k grip, flusterstorms, extra discard, a loam. Try netdecking one then figuring out what you like.
Death and Taxes
>Best T1 play
Mox Diamond->Land Tax
>Sekkrit sideboard tech
All the nastiest stuff is mainboard so I can fetch it with Enlightened Tutor.
>tfw you have all the pieces to make legacy Dredge but don't want to become a social praia that a Dredge deck makes you.
What's a good "fair" deck that won't make people hate me and is a bit on the cheaper side?
Building a new deck for legacy. I'm calling it Stiflenought Eyedrazi. The wincon is putting an Eye and an Eldrazi Mimic down turn one, and a phyrexian dreadnought down t2, sacrificing dreadnought to itself, swinging for 12 or 24.
I figure 16.6 percent of the time it will work every time. But you've got the regular stiflenought package to work with.
Sounds shit but I'll be playing it.
>120 bucks are unreasonably low for a Land
And people wonder why Legacy is withering away.
I mean, you aren't wrong, but still.
Tortured Existence Toolbox
nothing/EDH i guess
>Best T1 play lol
Great Furnace, go
>Sekkrit sideboard tech
Pyroblast, fuck you Delver
Fume Spitter, fuck you Delver/1 drops
>>Super bad at it
>>Ask questions on the Source, some good answers, can't manage to win yet
>>Gotwrite articles for the official website
>>I don't even know how to play
>>Please send help I'm getting crushed ._.
>worming my way through countermagic
>finally make a cleat shot to go off
>looks like I forgot to put doomsday back in my sideboard after wishing for it last game
I know how you feel.
MBC, harpy bounce, goblins, bunch of others.
Caw-blade, suicide black, Boros kitty.
Best T1 play
Dark rit into 3 2/2s.
Capsules and spellbombs aren't close to secrets.
Ive never gotten shit for playing dredge, probably because everyone runs tormods crypt and because its an older deck that cant win turn 1
ive had more fits thrown about me running oops
I helped create the Eldrazi menace (sorry) and now I want to get started in pauper. How do I do that?
>tested online, hey this deck is good
>proud of my brew, played it everyday for a month before the tour (check date on SS)
>gave list to friends
>some on tour, or testing teams
>others won IQs, very easily
>what rough beast now slouches toward x3 GP weekend to be born
>MFW I sold the deck but still feel dirty
A thousand different people had it. I just ended up getting a lot of my friends to play it and now that's all their interested in. It sucks for my LGS
>modern modern modern modern
>eldrazi eldrazi eldrazi eldrazi
>mutagenic or dismember
>RG or UR or Wastes
>Not interested in endless uninteractive mirrors
>I think they're just happy to be winning for once
>I would rather just play some cube
>obviously no one made the deck besides rosewater
just play it a ton alone, thats what all of the top tier ANT players i talk to do when they have nothing else to do or are trying something out. the deck really doesnt need to interact THAT much and its a bit similar to real gameplay. obviously youd need to play around Force or DRS and other things IRL but if youre just learning plsying solo is fine
You can try to goldfish around things, like assume they have a t2 thalia or duress, or they're holding counters. Also record your goldfish matches and go back and look for alternate lines
So guys, it's happening. I'm going to get into Legacy at long last. I'm ready to give up the ways of Modern for the superior, if not smaller, format.
My problem? I can't decide between Dredge or Spanish Inquisition.
I'd like to see dark petition restricted, something from shops restricted. Maybe merchant scroll unrestricted, scroll for ancestral isn't really a great line anymore but it still might be too good to be able to also get dig or gush. Them again, that might bee enough to make mentor good.
>go to lgs
>try to play some legacy
>playing bug delver
>turn 1 playing against an unknown opponent
>leads with ancient tomb -> chalice on 1
>hand is full of cantrips/discard
>"oh fuck its mud" I think to myself
>play land and pass
>he plays eye of ugin, drops thought knot seer and takes my only removal in hand
>proceeds to beat my face in
why can't eldrazi stay in modern where it belongs
Angler Delver and Midnight Gond in pauper
>Best T1 play
Island Delver Go
>Sekkrit sideboard tech
Not so secret though
I play the deck and I can tell you how good it is depends entirely on the metagame.
By far, its worst matchup is Lands. That shit is literally unwinnable without having 9-10 sb cards devoted to it. You have no way to answer a Marit Lage token and unless you can surgical extract Loam, you can't handle wasteland recursion.
Against any fair deck though, it crushes pretty hard. Delver.dec is a literal bye.
I've played Delver against it, it's a bye if you can open on a chalice for 1 or a t sphere. If you don't, and try to just play out your creatures its a pretty easy matchup. Lack of draw fixing means that you have to play the cards you draw, so you lose to yourself more than delver does.
I've had an idea for a legacy deck that I think could legit do work, even if it's just at FNM. It needs to be tweaked because it's very much in the prototype stage.
Basically, you use Phyrexian Dreadnaught and Eldrazi mimic while keeping the table clear with Fleshbag/Executioners. Liliana flips easily and brings back everything in the deck with her -x or plays the discard game, which is fine. Likewise, Matter Reshaper hits everything in the deck that isn't a spell and Unearth hits every creature in the GY. The rituals are there to get things moving asap. Blood Artist is still a maybe. I'm thinking about more cheap discard like Thought Seize or Cabal Therapy. Just dry testing, it's been pretty good. Best I had was like 3 Fleshbag triggers on T3 with a pair of 12/12 minics and a Liliana.
// Deck: Mimic jank (60)
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 Phyrexian Tower
4 Blood Artist
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Liliana, Heretical Healer
4 Merciless Executioner
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
4 Hymn to Tourach
Sideboard is probably stuff like Cabal Therapy to hit RiPs and still have a sac outlet for later, maybe two Corpse Dance if I need instant speed recursion.
pox and goblin playing fag here, shits great.
probably gonna build 4 horsemen because fuck i hate the judges in this area so god damn much, the lot of them are rules illiterate as shit.
best T1 play i've ever seen is Eggs going off T1 in some serious magical christmasland style bullshit.
sekkrit sideboard tech that just absolutely boss in all black decks is ill gotten gains, that card will fuck up your opponent something fierce, like god damn.
It's more than that, though because the pieces are not only more resilient, they also provide early advantage by themselves.
T1 Temple Mimic
T2 Ritual Lili Dread, flip Lili, get zombie, swing 12, -1 get Dread sac mimic and sit on 14 power.
T3 you can -2 to bring back the Mimic, or +2 to unearth something, or swing drop a fleshbag, or Hymn, ect.
You can do both anon. I play U/B reanimator in legacy and
Modern is a shit format, but everyone at my store plays it. In order to participate, I don't follow the main road, I take the sidetrack.
As to your conundrum: I'd personally pick dredge, but I see so little SI that I'd give you mad props for playing it.
>>not playing your one drops anyway
>>not distracting your opponent so he/she'd forget the Chalice trigger
I'm a Dredge player :^) Who needs to play spells when I can fill my graveyard by playing draw-discard-dredge?
It's amazing that Legacy Dredge is only $250. I'm just scared shitless of RiP.
I built Legacy Burn in paper a couple years ago but I have yet to get to play a single game.
I might sell my Modern MTGO shit to try and build something for Legacy. Probably MUD.
This card pisses me off. I hate how WotC got my hopes up then killed it. They flat said white would get the tax based counters because tax effects are white then backpeddeld hard with a response that since giving white all the tax based counters they couldn't figure out how to make any good blue counters.
White has no fucking good themes now. They killed off balance effects and the killed off tax effects. White has nothing but tokens which every other color gets too.
It's aight. Solid T2 imo. Great against delver.
Yeah, that's an Ivory Tower.
The Legacy scene at my store is really small, but the deck seems to hold its own against Delver, Dredge, and 12-Post.
It's tricky to play though. Against explosive decks like 12-post it‘s tough to decide between setting up the Land Tax/Scroll Rack or just tutoring a hate card like Blood Moon and hoping you draw into a wincon later.
Where to begin... It's a deck where you:
>t1 rhoughseize is a timewalk
>t1 Deathrite is a death knell
>A single piece of graveyard hate is unbeatable
>a Thalia is almost unbeatable
>if you manage to win a game, your opponent gets to draw first and play first
>you are incapable of killing t1
>Daze is a hard counter
It's not a good deck
1. Memeldrazi stompy
3. Abzan pod
4. Nic fit
5. Vintage grind dredge
7. Spanish Inquisition (Any version)
8. Cephalid breakfast, bonus points for vish kal as wincon
9. Superfriends, that you brew. No nic fit.
0. Reroll any of the above, stream 3 best of 3 games and reroll once done.
Mono-U martyr looked awesome when I saw Gregory Hatch play it. Tutor lands? Could you link me a list?
Awesome, but a little too inconsistent for my taste. And I can take a lot of inconsistency, so that's saying something.
Something shitty I made a while ago (have a winning percentage with it though because cockatrice) my computer died and I haven't recovered the files yet so this list isn't quite correct, but it should be somewhat close.
Help me guys. Which deck should I invest my money into? (Legacy)
I like midrange/tempo decks.
I'm looking at the followings:
I'd like something balanced between money and strenght (I like every deck in the list)
Also don't want anything with Goyfs because if I had 400$ to spend, I want them to be duals.
Fetchlands are not a probelm, own everyone of the ktk reprint cycle.
Also I already own these legacy staples:
4x Young Pyromancer
1x Sensei's divining top
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Gitaxian probe
3x Inquisition of kozilek
1x Liliana of the veil
Obviously it seems that Grixis Delver is the deal, but I'd like a deck that has more late-game strenght.
Grixis Delver is able to play control when you're against a faster deck, that's hehe strength of it. You could consider a Grixis control deck, or trade for some goyfs and build BUG Delver
Miracles is pretty much a bye, too. Unless your draw sucks and they pull a lethal Entreat on your ass or spam the board with Mentor tokens, they're fucked. Haven't dropped a single match to Miracles yet. It's ridiculously loop-sided.
Lands is indeed pretty bad. That's why I'm currently experimenting with a GW build with SB Rest in Peace and Karakas.
World Breaker is also an amazing card in many matches.
It's a solid deck. You have game against almost everything except shit like belcher. Burn is also a terrible terrible matchup. I play an enlightened tutor package in the board which really helps games 2 and 3. Really the reason I built it is because I wanted to play DRS, Stoneforge and Bob in the same deck, and splashing green for decay is pretty easy. It's super interactive and a lot of fun. You get so much card advantage it's beautiful.
>mfw I literally coined the term memerange and most of memedern memes
I'm thinking of building a Pauper gauntlet for playing with friends who're not that great at Magic but still enjoy playing (and with whom I enjoy playing as well), and I'm kinda thinking on how to store it.
I'm thinking of just putting them all in a large metal briefcase in two layers with some padding (everything's gonna be double sleeved, probably, so I don't need deck boxes I don't think)
Also I think it might be fun to build a few multiplayer-focused Pauper decks. It's so niche I'll have to trawl through Gatherer myself for neat cards, but anyone got some gems they like?
Does anyone even play multiplayer pauper ever?
I find that most people who're Vintage players actually don't give a shit about the value of their collection in comparison to getting to actually play the game.
Unlike Modern and Standard, Vintage is actually
funso there's an aspect other than muh cardboard stocks keeping them in MtG
They're probably counterfeits samfam
There's no such thing as "Wastes mana"
They just gave colorless mana its own symbol, that's literally the only change to how colorless mana works: what it looks like on a card.
Everything that used to make (1) colorless still makes it, because = 1 colorless mana
If only they had listened to MaRo and just put the symbols in BFZ before it had to be paid as a cost, all of this would've probably been much easier for people to grok
Dragon Stompy is a Trinisphere/Chalice/Blood Moon deck, it's moved outside of the stompy deck and is basically a red MUD deck.
Goblins actually attacks and aims to end the game through quick combat damage rather then lock pieces.
>not embracing the loving embrace of the Führer below
>tfw too poor to buy a mans deck and play vintage
I guess my w/r battlecry deck will have to do.
>tfw playing memedrazi in modern
>tfw player rage quites after t1 eye and nothing else
>tfw not even playing the good version but the heartless summoning
people are so buttblasted its fucking great.
I love Aboroth, and really want to brew something with him.
Anyone know what that one card is that prevents your creatures from getting -1/-1 counters?
What on earth kind of janky-ass format are you playing where a 9/9 for 6 is good value?
Even without the cumulative upkeep he'd be trash
You'd have to turn the -1/-1 into an upside, and even then you've got better options
>drop Abaroth as low as turn 3
>it's considered bad value
Tier 1 triggered
It's fucking trash bro, there's a trillion better big fatties if you wanna get your Timmy rocks off
that said the game is about having fun so whatever floats your boat
maybe try Quillspike or something
Guys, I don't think you saw the true significance behind this post. You literally cannot, as a player, have invented Affinity unless you were on the design team for Mirrodin.
Oh great dumb frog poster, tell us what you know from behind the curtain at Wizards of the Coast!
BigRed (will post pics in a bit)
LoamPox (out of budget atm)
>best T1 Play
City of Traitors - Simian Guide for R - Seething Song - Sneak Attack - Activate Sneak Attack for GriselBrand - Pay 14 Draw 14 - Simian Guide for R - Activate Sneak Attack for Emrakul - Attack for win.
With Twin banned i'm looking to get rid of these. I'll probably just put them up on ebay. but i have no idea how much the foreign foils are worth. Where can you find market value on foreign foils?
Why would you get rid of your Decays? Twin was just one drop in an ocean of threats that became too popular. Now it just happens to be Eldrazi. Next PT it'll be something else.
Unless you're trading to get non-foiled English decays and other things with the leftover profit, I say you keep them.
The mat is alright, sometimes is annoying to see cards in it I will admit.
And thanks. It is weak to disruption and lack of card draw, but having a possible turn 1 win and usual turn 3-4 wins is nice.
Running a red stompy hate base is nice too. I have had people scoop to turn 1 Chalice + Moon, which is great. If they knew how slow my deck would be after, they might not scoop, but it is nutty. That and have a flexible sideboard is nice. I can remove the Pyromancy's and Defense Grid to run Rabblemasters and side those in with the Magus of the Moons to have a smaller gameplan.
Once I manage to get a set of Recruiters, I am changing the board to:
4x Painters Servant
4x Imperial Recruiter
3x Magus of the Moon
It'll bring out the:
4x Sneak Attack
4x Through the Breach
1x Worldspine Worm
It'll run like a shitty combo swap, but it should scare some people.
Many casual tears be with you, friend.
I was going to suggest trying to fit in some Inquisions of Kozilek or Thoughtsiezes to protect your Blood Moons against permanent hate cards, but then I saw your Defence Grids
I mean BigRed even does well at more competitive tables. There are clearly better decks (especially Sneak and Show for higher budget players), but a lot of people I know perform really well with the deck. The thread on TheSource has people posting deck results all the time, and for a first deck in the format, it has been great. Really not the deck I want to be playing, but for the budget it was this, dredge, or burn, and this upgrades into something I want more than the other two.
As for protection, I generally don't need it. Either moon wheels or it doesn't, but if it takes removal it is something not hitting sneak attack or other cards. A resolved moon delays their plan for a turn, for 3 mana in mono red, I'm not too upset haha.
How long have you been working on that? My chucklefuck legacy deck is only ~$450, and that's only because there's a playset of Wasteland in it, but this looks near at least $900!
It's actually 1.2k thanks to price increases. I've been playing this deck for half a year now. The problem is, I started magic about 2 years ago with a friend introducing me to EDH. I just don't have legacy staples or the cash to buy the decks I want.
More like people have to pay for college and graduate school. Not everybody who plays is a neckbeard in the workforce with nothing to spend money on except pocket pussies, pizza rolls, and magic haha.
I feel you senpai. I played since Gatecrash released, played casually for about a year and a half, then tried to play competitively. I had to brew trial and error with my average cards, buy bulk from friends and sift for high-end valuables, then sell the ones I didn't want for the ones I did want.
Most players aren't established with a comfortable career yet. It's taken me years to get what I wanted because of school and saving for a car.
Tbh senpai I'd get more pussy with a car than a stack of $10,000 cardboard
Luckily, I will end up selling anything >$5 from my EDH decks in the next year or so and hopefully end up with $500-750 in cash. Then I will trade in cards I don't need from my legacy deck and get Imperial Painter, my dream deck.
Just read the decklist for Painter, holy shit.
Agreed. While my heart and soul lies with goblin tribal, dragon stompy (and the hybrid of goblin stompy) is a great deck. Still, goblins4lyfe.
Bruh. Bird Stompy is the best-kept secret in Stompy.
Yeah, it's my dream deck. If only recruiters weren't so much. The whole deck costs 2.7k, roughly 1.2k of which is the recruiters. I just wish I was born earlier and was actually in the work force, cause the prices will just keep going up.
Meh, it happens. Who knows, maybe wizards will reprint it at some point or I'll come across a MP set for only $750-850. Who knows. Maybe I'll have the deck 5ish years from now when I have been in the work force for a few years.
Depends on how you define combo.
T1 decks like Belcher are pretty hard, but I'm 6 for 7 against ANT in the past few months. The sideboard is brutally anti-combo and tailors the deck for whatever you're facing. Not to mention that the mainboard can kill as fast as turn 4 with hordes of flyers.
And there's anti-combo in the mainboard as well: Judge's Familiar is a huge help, especially against Dredge (he removes Bridges before they get the zombies), while Aven Mindcensor can beat ANT on his own (he makes Infernal Tutor really bad).
Yeah, I said mentioned in my next post that I am hoping for a reprint. They might, but unless it is a large enough print run, it won't lower the price too much. People will want to snatch it up for legacy. Sucks that a reprint would probably raise the price of other pieces of the Painter deck.
UB Teachings in Pauper. Currently trying out a green splash for Sprout Swarm as a wincon and that also gives me access to Naturalize. I think I like it more than Evincar's Justice so far. It's cheaper to cast and while it doesn't work as a boardwipe in the strictest sense, being able to create an infinite amount of chump blockers is much better against creatures that Justice doesn't kill unless you can cast it more than once in a single turn by which point you should already be winning. And, oh yeah, Sprout Swarm can actually be tutored for with Mystical teachings.
Canadian Threshold. Fuck Miracles
Nothing. Temur Delver is best deck
>best t1 play
Tropical island, Delver of Secrets
>secret Sideboard tech
4x Leyline of the Void. Fuck Dredge
i like to dick around with tortured existence in pauper
Deck names rarely change after they have become established even if the deck loses teh card that gave the name to begin with. Which is why Affinity in Modern is still called Affinity, even though it doesn't play any spells with Affinity, and why Fish in Vintage is still called Fish even though it doesn't play any Merfolks anymore.
Against both you go for ethersworn cannonist after board. Before, your best bet is runed halo.
I'm not playing the deck, but I'd guess that you only win if you can land a hate card and get rip helm off pretty fast
Last time I played against tezzerator I never saw it, but managed to storm off through multiple chalices. I had to show him what I was holding at the end of the game to rub it in.
There's a couple of good combo decks. Manaless Dredge, Oops All Spells, and Cheeri0s are all slick combo decks.
All of those are pretty boring "turn 1 win or bust" decks. If you want to play fun combo, reanimator, elves, storm, high tide, aluren, or sneak and show are a lot more interactive
I try to steer people away from them because whenever I see someone play one week then never come again, they're on Leylines or cheeri0s or something else like that. Dying to a single force/other counters on the play doesn't lead to a lot of fun.
Not sure if anyone might be willing to give some ideas - there was a card called emrakuls hatcher that would put a bunch of eldrazi spawn on the field - but it's not standard legal
Does anyone know of any swap cards which summon eldrazi spawn/scions? I find the biggest problem with my deck now is getting enough mana in tome to summon higher powered creatures. I only got into magic a few weeks ago and went to my first fnm last night. Any tips?
You've got a lot to learn about Magic, buddy
They play Standard at your FNM yeah? There are asstons of Eldrazi Scion spawners. Brood Monitor makes 3 like the Hatcher, but it's really slow and really susceptible to removal when your mana ramping is on creatures and not lands
Try some Nissa's Pilgrimage and Explosive Vegetation, cast some Mina and Denn, or try a lower CMC "big payoff" creature like Omnath. Omnath is cheap (2 buckaroos) considering how fun he can be for casual players
I thought so. I'm looking to build a deck that's relatively cheap and is also competitive. Dredge with no Diamond seems like the best one so far, followed close by Zombardment
no idea if this deck is actually goodand Stax.
i'm interested in building pox, but for now i'm just trying to decide if it's worth my time to make a rough cut of my modern deck into legacy for the hell of it
wasn't aware misstep was banned, but thanks, and the gate looks neat!
T1 Swamp, Dark Ritual, IoK/Hymn, Iok/Rack/Thoughtseize, etc. seems pretty solid
Wait, what's expensive about Aluren? The only parts of the deck you need are Aluren, Cavern Harpy, and Parasitic Strix, right?
You can run Imperial Recruiter and THAT costs $350 but it ain't /required/ for the deck.
Imperial Recruiter is the primary part of the combo kill.
Recruiter, dream stalker, bounce recruiter, recruiter cavern harpy, bounce dream stalker, dream stalker bounce recruiter, recruiter, parasitic strix
Ehhh, I dunno. The MTGSalvation primer seemed to think it wasn't necessary to the deck, more like a nice piece of tech that IMPROVES the combo rather than is required to actually play the deck. The combo pieces could also just be gathered up manually by utilizing Blue dig spells or Coiling Oracle/Man O' War/Dream Eater.
I disagree with that, I think in general MTGSalvation is not a great source of magic knowledge.
Without recruiter you have to assemble multiple pieces + aluren to get a combo kill. Recruiter + aluren is a two card kill, and it reduces the number of bad cards you need to run.
I'm not saying that it's unplayable without recruiter: it's just much worse.
Thanks dude, I will look into that. I'm trying to stick to Swamp though, rather than with multi colours since it can be a bit tough to get the mana needed early on for that.
Yep, standard for fnm, although they were all really weird about the 60 cards rule - i was under the impressionit was min. 60 cards and no max but they all pretty well stuck to exactly 60 cards very strictly - I assume this must be common
I'll say this; The Source can be a good source but take it with a grain of salt. I severely disagree with some of the lists/board plans that people suggest on there. To be taken with a grain of salt.
My experience with MTG forums has been that the quality of advice is heavily dependant on who is giving it. Active primers will often have one or two guys who know their shit and can be trusted, while everyone else is just a scrub.
Careful study/faithless looting then breakthrough. You want to be using them as your main dredge outlets. The best hands go t1 looting t2 breakthrough. LED helps a lot because it can flashback looting and allow you to dredge on a turn 1 breakthrough in a pinch
1 Sphinx of Lost Truths
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
3 Golgari Thug
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Putrid Imp
4 Tireless Tribe
3 Careful Study
4 Bridge from Below
3 Dread Return
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Darkslick Shores
1 Tarnished Citadel
4 Cephalid Coliseum
4 Gemstone Mine
4 City of Brass
3 Leyline of the Void
3 Ancient Grudge
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Angel of Despair
1 Ancestor's Chosen
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
This is the basic list my brother played. Can goldfish T2-4 kills with it pretty reliably, and it's cheap.
>Am I doing something wrong,
Yeah, mana dredge without Lion's Eye Diamond is ass. I know from experience when I tried to do a budget budget version. It just doesn't work very well and is less explosive.
You lose Faithless Looting and you use Putrid Imp instead...not worth it imo, especially since you have to pay for Putrid Imp.
please don't bully - I don't known Grislebrand.
If you dredge every turn you will eventually end up with all of your dredgers in hand. A permanent discard outlet lets you keep dumping them in the grave.
Also, if you dredge every turn, you won't ever have more than 1 or 2 lands.
Looks pretty bog-standard-Dredge to me. If you want to bully a dredge player, I play with fucking Ashen Ghouls and Nether Spirits.
That's exactly what I mean. Also Tabernacles, Candelabras, and Recruiter are all things that are just good to have. I use to have a playset of all of them but I sold them to my friend.
Just two more Ports away from having it all foiled out.
Then I just need to get a playset of the new Ports, the two Judge Promo wastelands, and the expedition wastelands and I'll be done
I really wish I had the MPR Wastes, but they're so hilariously expensive.
I collect wastelands. I still need to get heavily played wastelands and signed ones. As well as all the goddamn new foiled ones they're making.