Magic Tech Financial Speculating Edition
Post your success stories of swindling Painter's Servant, Angel's Grace, Worship and Simian Spirit Guide from unknowing vendors.
Secret tech is haram and punishable by gouging of the eye
am I the only one who is getting fairly sick with these intense spikes and general over-speculation in all parts of the MtG community?
I really wish the super secret mtgfinance cabal could give it a rest or WotC could somehow make it easier to play non-online Magic
They were 22 yesterday
ALWAYS sell into the hype
Don't be a retard like me and buy cards in the beginning of the spike and expect them to spike even harder. I bought 5 Worship at 5 dollars each and I'm pretty sure they're gonna drop right back down to bulk.
4x Angel's Grace I bought for 4 each, 8xSSG for 5, 4xPainter's Servant for 10 dollars each
These seem like decent prices for all of them, but you forget you'll probably only sell the cards for half of the "real" price, so I've already lost a buncha money on SSG
Sell, sell, sell!
Yeah I have no idea who drives the prices so hard
It's not casuals because they have no idea about anything
Most speculators I've seen are reactive and just buy into the hype early, then sell when hype is at its height, but who hypes it enough to affect prices in this way? Is supply really so limited that it's just grinders who wanna try a new deck?
>Play pauper and EDH
>tons of shitty jank cards
>retards speculating on Modern allow me to sell garbage for 5-6x what it's worth almost monthly
I love this format and the retards who play it.
Reminder that your current options in competitive Modern right now are:
1) Buy a deck that's only going to get banned and become worthless in 2 months
2) Lose to the deck that's going to get banned in 2 months
I like that turbofog worship garbage stuff looks like it's got game against Eldrazi (30/70 at best in favor of Eldrazi), because this means Wizards might not emergency ban it
I think if it lasts a month, Ugin spikes to infinity, then crashes in April after banlist update
If it doesn't get banned in April though...
I like having both my kidneys even more, so until China gets its shit together and starts making some better counterfeits, I'm stuck with
playing better games than non-Eternal Magic
>modern no ban list tourney
I'm leaning towards Agent of Bolas control because I'm expecting a lot of degenerate shit like Storm and Shoal Infect, send help?
4 Mental Misstep
2 Spell Snare
3 Chalice of the Void
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Cranial Plating
2 Etched Champion
4 Arcbound Ravager
1 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
4 Chrome Mox
3 Mox Opal
4 Inkmoth Nexus
4 Seat of the Synod
4 Vault of Whispers
I'll take a look. The last time I sold cards, I sold goyfs for ~30 a piece to fund a ticket to sasquatch. Totally worth it, and I'd do it again, I just expected them to be banned. ~_~
See the problem in my mind here is that you have to build the deck around 4 things
Having the Fogs to stall
Having the Wraths to stabilize
Having the actual CA, not virtual CA, to keep doing those things
Having a resilient wincon that isn't a nonbo with your main gameplan (so probably no creature-based wincons)
Because of Modern's lack of filtering and CA in general, it feels like you'll just end up with the wrong half of your deck at any given point in time, but I could of course be wrong and the deck is redundant enough and resilient enough against whatever the Eldrazi do to stop you, that you don't just instalose once they start packing more interaction.
Has it had any results or is this purely at the theorycrafting stage?
There are extremes you can go to.
This got 4th in the first recorded no ban list tourney http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-08-15-ub-tezzeret-control/
Some questions, Why play chalice as anything but a 4 of? Why play mental mistep with chalice assuming you're going to cast it on 1?
Cranial plating, arcbound ravager, broodstar and etched champion are not generally includes for a control deck. Wurmcoil seems like sb material, 6 mana is likely too high for delver and unimportant vs control decks, seems only good against midrange.
Have you done any testing at all?
No, I havent. Literally slapped this together while eating breakfast and figured Id get help from you guys before wasting my time since Im not the greatest deckbuilder.
Thanks for the link.
>Implying you play only 1 Mana fogs
Cryptic command is a 4 mana fog + other good stuff
Dawn charm is a fog but anti burn
Riot control is a fog + lifegain, good against burn and eldrazi
I played about three hours worth of games with/against colorless and red/blue Eldrazi. For junk it's near unwinnable if they have a decent hand. For aggro strategies it's possible but you have to be on the play or you lose.
Turn one reality smasher is disgusting btw.
Nice samefag, cuckmeisser.
You got memedern meme'd and now you're upset, might you enjoy www.reddit.com? because methinks you do.
Now fuck off back there and take your shitbrew with you
Yeah. It just feels like a better deck imo, but UR is favored against it.
UR didn't feel good, felt very janky to me. Obligator was the only colored card in it I liked at all.
Also its hard to mulligan bad with these decks. You have a sol land and you're g2g
I'm tempted to build a burn deck that wins on turn 4 with Hidetsugu's second right, using grove of the burn willow to help boost them back up in life if it drops below 10. Not consistent at all, just basing it off a cool play I saw this weekend.
So, with Madness returning in SOI, do you think it'll be possible do build a decent deck around it? Some obvious enablers are LotV and Baby Jace, Lotleth Troll works too if there are good creatures.
>inb4 all the new Madness cards are trash
Just got these fuckers for 12.50 a piece
How did I do?
Hey guys I'm playing a fairly stock Abzan Midrange list right now. I have pretty decent game against most aggro strategies at my local store because of kitchen finks and feed te clan but I just fold to the couple of Tron and Eldrazi players. I've come to the decision I need 2 or 3 more hard removal spells in the deck, but having a hard time finding good ones. Is it safe to play Doom Blade or Slaughter Pact right now? Doesn't seem like a lot of black creatures in the meta currently.
Oh and keep in mind that you need to board out most if not all of your creatures Game 2.
I'm planning to add a third Deflecting Palm in mi SB but the burn deck can only go so fast whereas Eldrazi can win as soon as Turn 2 or Turn 3 consistently.
if eldrazi decks popped up locally and I knew they were the biggest problem I'd have to deal with yeah I'd probably start main boarding some hate.
I actually had smash to smithereens main for about a month because there were 8 affinity players at the shop, where the average turn out is less than 20 people.
I had the list before the Pro Tour from online testing and bought all the cards. Just flipped them for 650+, not bad. Wish I had bought more mimics at 1.25, but what can you do.
If you had an inside track on PT testing, I think you could really speculate and make a lot of money. At PT Caw Blade the team bought almost all the Stoneforge Mystics that were online and casually made 2000$+, which is nice.
Wow, I have never cringed while on 4chan, but you did it.
Not even the guy you were talking to.
Worship and painter both sound a bit shit when people are running ratchet bomb and dismember. Who the fuck is buying all these cards? They don't seem like wonderful options to me at least
All WotC needs to do is print a void winnower esque card that just hits things 5 or more. Make it a red card that burns them for 3 every time they cast a 5+ spell.
They will just ban eye and print a new better version in the Emerakuel set.
Remember a year ago when they said they didn't want to police modern in their card design and people thought delve and prowess was the worst that could happen?
I just threw it in there because swiftspear is a better 1 drop than delver and has displaced the entire deck setup as a response.
Everyone was aware of dig and cruise being banworthy, just no one wanted to ban them because they like recalling. having cruise and dig in the same set alone was suspect.
As a ex-pod player, let them ban everything. fuck wizards. I will be eternally salty.
>As an ex-player of MTG that used an unbalanced as fuck card with no consecuences or reprisal.I will be eternally salty that the format is better without said card.
Fixed. The game is better without cancer like you. The same goes for the Twin apologist, get fucked, your cancerous deck deserved to die, you're next Affinity, Tron, Infect and Zoo, all will die and we will finally return to 10+ turns Master Race formats.
Would Commandeer also be a good sideboard card for this hypothetical Bant Turbifog deck?
I hope we can actually pitch into this and fighting back against Eldrazi rather than talk about money.
>Affinity, Tron, Infect and Zoo, all will die and we will finally return to 10+ turns Master Race formats.
At first, I thought you were sucking Eldrazi cock. Now I see you're just stupid
I was just going throught BfZ cards in case I missed something
>see Painful Truths
>it is a draw3/eat a Bolt for 3cmc in Jund/Bug/Grixis/Esper
>hory sheet that is good
why are people actually comparing this to Read the Bones and say this is crap?
there are people actually saying scry2 is worth more than an additional card
is it me who is out of touch or are these kids today completely beyond hope? how can you even compare scry2 to an additional card
I just don't know anymore
>lalala can't hear ya XD
Found the redditors, in any case if I wanted to play a 1turn flip coin format with + $1000 cost decks I would be playing fucking Yugioh.
This is Magic the Gathering, the game was intended to have long games where skill and cunning where the biggest factors in the duels. Not the current LOL I OTK YOU FIRST XD faggotry that is modern, legacy and vintage.
read the bones can dig up to 4 cards when you need to draw an specific card. but in decks that are solid good stuff that only need cards in hand and don't really care what they are, truths is better
yeah okay, when you dig for something specific of course you will see one more card with Read the Bones
but the point is where is this "better" and where is Painful Truths "bad"
damn, drawing 3 cards in one of the named colors is insane
this nets you 2 cards as card advantage - I'd say this is Legacy playable
I think I will get me a playset
This is not legacy playable and doesn't even see play in modern.
>turn 3 tap out to play painful truths you draw 3 and lose 3
>Thanks for the bolt now Swiftspear, Spike, Bolt swing for 3
Why do you think that banning twin/pod helped solve the problem of having too much variance?
No ban modern has more viable control decks than modern does, but your solution to make control viable is to make the ban list twice as large?
I suppose it will eventually work, but neither pod nor twin were particularly bad for the format.
>cards need to see play in modern to be good
yeah nah cuck, go suck Eldrazi cock
also, it already saw Legacy play as I just found out
Chapin played it in Esper Mentor
also, Grixis lists are currently testing it
I think Grixis is the home here
also they are dirt cheap, nothing that could go wrong here
The card is nice in control. But honestly, all decks you will face in modern are trying to kill you by turn 3-4, so tapping out and paying 3 life is usually suicide. Even infect now and then go out for the damage route when retards start paying too much life for lands and thoughtseizes.
For me personally the only ban worthy thing in the pod modern was it's burn, and it could've been handled better - by banning one key burn element that is NOT lightning bolt. Anything really, just to make deck slightly less consistent. Pod was fine, twin was fine, cruise and dig was more then fine. There were really good bans like artifact lands, skull or dread, and then there are incredibly stupid ones. It was like 3 twin decks in 2015 champ. Why was it banned?
>am I the only one who is getting fairly sick with these intense spikes and general over-speculation in all parts of the MtG community?
The only reason it's happening is because people have lost faith in Kikes of the Coast's ability to reprint cards. Inquisition of Kozilek opened the floodgate when it became apparent that they're not going to reprint good cards anymore and instead shit like Felidar Sovereign.
Return to Innistrad is just going to make it worse.
may as well do it now since neither are getting reprinted in standard, lili was literally called out by name as a card that is too strong for standard and snapcaster is even stronger
Thing is, that just plain doesn't matte for WotC. The only formats they give a shit about are Standard and Limited, everything else is just there as an afterthought and something to intrigue newbies with.
>Abloobloo we can't get good new cards for Modern because Standard babies can't stand it !
>Turns out the new best Modern deck is 70% composed of cards from the two latest sets
And this, people, this is why nobody takes this place seriously.
I played innistrad standard and lilianna was not a power house. That card would be fine in standard. I have no clue why wotc is watering down the power level of sets. Khans was a good set, but theros, BFZ are pretty weak. I just don't understand
These cards weren't designed to be good. It's pretty clear at this point that R&D just forget that Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple existed. The fact that Reality Smasher went from 4 anus mana to 1 anus and 4 should tell you that.
peaks and valleys anon. they also know what is considered "high end" for a spell or ability (bolt vs shock and how much drawing a card is worth are examples) and will reserve them to allow them to piecemeal be a thing.
Some blocks, burn will be above average, some blocks will have recursion being above average.
MtG players want all things to be in their best iteration at all times without realizing that is what vintage and legacy are for.
From personal taste, if the rock isn't a good archetype in a given standard, standard isn't in a good place.
Commander is a playground for the designers where they can just throw shit around they'd LIKE to make, but would break Limited or Standard. It's a way to blow off steam and go wild in an environment where it doesn't fucking matter. They aren't interested in actually managing the format in any way.
the broken part of the deck is the fast mana, which isnt from bfz
the eldrazi themselves are just moderate standard power level midrange creatures, the reason its broken is the fast mana means they're all severely undercosted
The harsh truth is that Wizards doesn't design or playtest for Modern, outside of some outliers. Modern was a way to create a new high profile revenue lane for the big secondary sellers because Vinate was dead and in the water and Legacy was withering away, nothing more, nothing less.
>From personal taste, if the rock isn't a good archetype in a given standard, standard isn't in a good place.
Is rock something more specific than gbx midrange? If not, shit taste.
>These cards weren't designed to be good
>R&D just forget that Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple existed
Now you are just being delusional.
I really felt let down that the planewalker commanders were such non cards. they are just planeswalkers that have common cards as their abilities. Solid Freyalise was particularly shitty.
BfZ is insanely weak, OGW is alittle better for a single archetype. overall the sets are really shit. A lot of rares in both sets that should have been uncommon ( a trend I hope they stop very very soon as even pros complain about it).
It's annoying that they print another clone of incenerate, but think bolt or mana leak is to good for standard.
>>45321381those cards are only enabled by cards from other sets. The eldrazi are good, yes, but BFZ is no where near the same as NPH, or KTK
Thought Nazi was designed to be playable, not to be a format crushing piece of shit by coming down on turn 2. Small Eldrazi creatures are as big of a design mistake as Delve. With Delve they unestimated how easy it was to fill a yard in Vintage/Legacy/Modern, and with small Eldrazi they forgot Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple existed.
they've been tinkering with some counters for UU that need a stipulation to cast on UU. its only a matter of time before actual counterspell is back in rotation.
It would coincide with a 'new' modern I'd assume.
from day 1. Mountain, black lotus, channel. pop lotus for GGG, use 2 of it to cast channel, turn 19 life into mana, use the last G to make it 20, tap the mountain and cast fireball.
GG ez no re, pay up that ante.
>don't get new powerhouses
>get powerfull shit
>Complains even more
They'll eventually ban Eye of Ugin/Eldrazi Temple anyway. And I bet you'll find a way to complain about that too.
People want powerful cards, not format destroying/warping pieces of shit. We want a powerful draw spell, not fucking Ancestral Recall. Nobody asked for powerful creatures though.
Is this ok? Beginner.
3 x Sunblade Elf
2 x Relic seer
1 x Knight of the white Orchid
1x Consul’s Lieutenant
1 x Cleric of the forward order
4 x Kinsbaile Skirmisher
1 x Undercity Troll
4 x Timberland Guide
2 x Knight of the pilgrim road
4 x Primal Huntbeast
1 x Rhox Maulers
4 x Divine Favor
4 x Nimbus Wings
1 x Reprisal
3 x Titanic Growth
10 x Plains
2 x Sunpetal Grove
2 x Selesnya Guildgate
I started playing in Onslaught block. I was a spike immediately and traded into most of my good stuff with piles of fun junk. Biggest problems now is the death of kitchen table culture. Now whenever trading is an option the kids whip out their smart phones and go for precise monetary equivalence. So whoever sets the prices on things effectively prices trades out of the equation all-together. Even those hole in the wall shops that used to be isolated have computers behind the desk and will price their cardboard relative to SCG or another retailer of their choice.
>not format destroying/warping pieces of shit.
Where were you not a long time ago when bloom/twin were banned ? This place was on fire.
No you are not.
Unfortunately this won't change until people stop handing over their shekels at these ridiculous prices.
I can't believe people talk about a $40 card as "affordable." That's almost as much as your average videogame, and more than enough to buy three 6-packs of beer. For a piece of cardboard. It's insane.
3) Spend serious money on anti-Eldrazi tech that's only going to last 2 months, then lose agaisnt everything else because there are only so many sideboard slots.
Hooray for Magic. I think I might as well quit. At least until April. Standard is nearly the same with the fucking Rally deck. Just replace the banning with rotation.
That's why you maindeck 4 Darknesses from now on. You can take a hit or two after the fatties are cast on turns 2 and 3 for Mimic copies, especially with Phyrexian Unlife to which they don't have an answer beyond TKS, which gets shut down by Leylines post-board.
The Rock is from Apocolypse era magic, while not the first 'deck' (the first deck was literally just called "the deck") it was one of the first actual archetypes. the only archetypes were aggro (weenie rush), control (draw go), or combo (real combo).
Midrange was just jank, as it should still be. aggro and control were focused enough that a deck of 4 mana 4/4s couldn't compete. combo was an actual archetype instead of iffy aggro.
Look up pernicious deed and spiritmonger. add treetop villages and the rest of the deck is disruption.
It was from a different time anon, a better time. People use jund over rock for reasons, but way back when, GB could do everything Jund could and better thru consistency.
With such a large card pool consisting of so many good cards, it's very difficult to design new cards for the format without risking completely breaking it, or just making the strong decks stronger.
Much in the way Eldrazi just did
creatures being better on average and spells being worse. WotC literally pushed the archetype the way they push chase rares.
The closest thing to old control we had recently was Rev decks using a single elspeth and a single jace as wincons. I remember watching a pro tour during that standard and a guy plays some cranial extraction type effect and names rev instead of elixir of immortality not knowing the actual wincon is the elixir in the matchup. Small aside but it isn't just the game that has changed, the players have too. They aren't as smart as they were back then, or the game now allows for sloppier play to still net you a good result more often.
The problem is that there is no way to stop Modern from becoming "Linear City, USA" without a card like FoW and the idiotic bans they have applied to the format.
I say bring back Extended.
Wizards just fucked up. They did it in the past many times. Look at the fucking artifact lands or skullclamp. They also now completely fuck up bans, using them completely at fucking random. And they would now hesitate to ban their fuckup, because they just baned a completely fine card.
>Chalice is totally fine!
>except it shuts down all the decks fast enough to kill Eldrazi
>while all the decks that could go over Eldrazi can't because you don't go over Reality Shapers and Endless Ones also nice Abrupt Decay that doesn't do shit against anything else
El Drizzle should be sacrificing its early game to out-midrange Midrange, instead it just fucks everything up for everyone everywhere forever while holding multi-archetype staples hostage thanks to running Chalice.
I love this card so much. Thinking of finishing Jund just to play it.
WotC is very very reluctant to make new cards that can make it in modern by displacing existing cards. If they just print better versions whats the point to playing modern over vintage? Like >>45322106 said there is already a huge pool, its also hard to create truly new cards (even card naming conventions have gotten inbred as a result). Then there is the problem of hurting feel feels. How many decks with the new Eldrazi decks force out until it is dealt with?
The only time a new thing happens in modern now is when wizards straight up misses it. Delve and eldrazi were because wizards took a new approach of fucking off with modern and letting it be a shitshow, then they will swoop in and create a new better fixed modern a few years from now to save us.
Them saying they don't really care to police modern anymore should have been a bigger red flag that modern is gonna be the wild wild west than most people thought it to be.
Huntmaster is great, I run 2 in jund normally, though testing a 1/1 split with him and kia for now just to see.
I'll also be testing kalitas in that spot when I get my hands on him, but huntmaster will always be my homeboy
I want to keep my friends thank you
>What's fun for you
At least some degree of interaction, maybe a combo but not necessarily
Eldrazi isn't either fun or cheap
I preordered the Eldrazi core back in January before it spiked. TKS was around 3 euros when I bought my set.
Completing the deck would still cost me around 400 euros
yes because every fucking pack had a temple and an eye. I forgot.
Also there is other really expensive shit like Cavern of Souls, Spellskite and Chalice. That alone is around $300 - $400
Then it's either Commander, Pauper or draft.
Or better yet, don't play. Save yourself some money and time. Magic is great, it's among the best tabletop games ever made, without a doubt. But everything around it is so shit.
>A community that defends and encourages rule lawyering to win games
Truly the worst part about Magic is how hard you can be punished for not "Speaking it" correctly. YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING GUY MEANT.
Commander is awful. God the faggots that play that format.
>go to LGS
>See Commander shitbrewers sitting around and playing
>watch the game from the side
>unsleeved cards almost all basics tons of standard shit they probably obtained by opening packs
>one of the fags goes give my creatures +4/+4 and trample and swing all *laughs maniacally* and I WIN!
>cringe and walk away
You can't make that kind of slipup at the highest possible level of play simply because it WILL get taken advantage of
heh kid we all know you would only say tasigur lel get outplayed
Of course I'd say Tasigur; there's no other way it can be interpreted besides the Golden Fang. If the original Borborygmos had a longer name like "Borborygmas, the Cyclops", then the judge would've most likely asked for further clarification, but unfortunately he provided the exact name of a card.
You realise that your complaint quite literally could not be more irrelevant?
You could name a Splinter token if you were playing Legacy, because there's a card named Splinter
And it would, unless I misunderstand, prevent that splinter token from using an activated ability, for example if it was enchanted with Splinter Twin to keep things thematic
>had 4 chalices that I bought for super cheap when Modern Masters came out
>traded them at a regional for 2 Misties
I'm certainly not interested in playing that deck, so I might as well sell-off while I can. Also I feel like the price should drop considerably if there are bans.
I'm just not hyped on Magic right now desu. Pre-eldrazi Modern decks are basically unplayable right now. Standard costs a million dollars and doesn't have things I want to do. OGW draft is alright, but doesn't inspire me. And I was going to build a Kozilek EDH deck but after the price spikes the deck now costs $1000+.
I think I'll cool it on Magic for a while.
It does if you put Splinter Twin on it, which gives the creature an activated ability.
Cumulative Upkeep isn't an activated ability, no.
I'm not positive, but my understanding is that in magic names are rigid designators that refer to a single object. So even though they do have the same name, the name latches on to the relevant card.
This could be incorrect, it's just how names work in magic generally.
110.5c A spell or ability that creates a creature token sets both its name and its creature type. If the spell or ability doesn’t specify the name of the creature token, its name is the same as its creature type(s). A “Goblin Scout creature token,” for example, is named “Goblin Scout” and has the creature subtypes Goblin and Scout. Once a token is on the battlefield, changing its name doesn’t change its creature type, and vice versa.
"01/06/2005 You can name any card, even if that card doesn't normally have an activated ability. You can't name a token unless that token has the same name as a card."
>UNLESS that token has the same name as a card
You can, infact, name a token.
Suggestion: Become anhero.
A guy was here a while ago with a superfriends take on it. Looks dank
It means that you can't name tokens that lack a card, Splinter is the name of the creature token, and it had the same name as a card. It doesn't specify that the cards have to be the exact same card, just the same name.
I'm assuming you thought I'd make a Splinter token (same name as a card pic related) for my Spinter Twin deck. Bad pithing needle bro, ggwp g3?
>still trying to samefag to prove his point
>still talking to himself
>posting photoshopped pictures
This is sad anon, just stop samefagging.
you don't even need the full oracle text, just enough defining features to where it's "you couldn't possibly mean any other card".
If you don't know the exact name, it's usually best to describe it - or check the card itself if it's in a public zone! you're allowed to look at your opponent's yard for the right card name to choose.
Even though UR Eldrazi won the PT there seems to be more interest for the colorless variant.
Wonder if it's because of the novelty
>Playing Teysa, Orzhov Scion waifu commander
>Play darkest hour, All my creatures are black
>Play blasting station
>Cast my commander
>Sacrifice a creature, deal 1 damage, create a black token, sacrifice the black token, deal 1 damage, create a black token
>Fuck you with your dumb combo
>Didn't know about the most known combo with this commander
>mfw on mobile and don't have face
Did the same thing with sanguine bond/exquisite blood
Stopped playing commander
>Turn one Reality Smasher
That honestly seems like it's really bad, especially if it gets Pathed
>yfw someone using literally three extra cards just to pump out a fatty fast is still only getting a 2-for-1 trade against him when Pathed
Food chain is awesome
same with alluren
ill probably play burn though as i have everything except chain lightning
i just built eldrazi in modern and it will be banned the only question is when
im building living end and if ssg gets banned ill go to legacy
I doubt they would ban simian spirit guide, its the only reason combo exists in modern at the moment. Banning it destroys ad nauseam, grishoalbrand, and living end. What combo deck would even be left thats not tier 3?
>implying infect is a combo deck
When demand outscales supply, new suppliers rise to push the market towards price equilibrium
Thank you based Chinese free market for saving us from the protectionist iron fist of the Casters of the Coast
Honestly I see wizards banning all cards with the colorless mana symbol as a part of their cost. Having that in their mana cost completely breaks a variety of old cards and makes it much harder for them to print balanced colorless lands and other cards that produce mana.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both reality smasher and thought-knot seer banned instead of eye of ugin. The eldrazi deck was fine before oath of the gate watch.
Yeah, because it's a situational as fuck card
It's powerful when it's usable, but decks that play Painful Truths are inherently superior in terms of card advantage against everything else anyway, so they don't need it unless they get into a super grindy match
Having a Painful Truths in hand against RUG Delver is
i hear its good
i havnt played against living end yet
and my living end isnt complete
im building my eldrazi a little differently, its half way between the bw and the colorless
i cant afford chalices/cant find them so im running iok, thoughtseize and surgical extraction, with the regular spellskites and ratchetbombs
im not sure if i want to use matter reshaper, i want to try a few bearer of silence
Oath cards are okay, but none of the cards from BFZ or Oath are EVER EVER played without Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple outside of Standard
This is like saying Scourge was a high-power and broken set because it had Storm
>First you don't want me to shovel butter down your throat, a week later you're complaining you haven't been fed in a week. Jesus Christ you indecisive fuck, you'll complain about everything!
>tfw my janky ramp RoE eldrazi deck was so broken at kitchen table I either got teamed up on immediately or explicitly told I could only play it once.
Getting Spawnsire to fire was the most satisfying thing in the world. That and dicking everyone with an All is Dust. Ive since torn it apart to make my janky Eldrazi tribal EDH deck.
Then they'd need to unban 12post since Tron would become unplayable (or would have to pack 4 mb needles at the very least). There'd be no reason for any deck not to run a set since no monocolored deck outside the random rogue every now and then (DT, 8rack, Taking Turns) takes large enough portion of the meta.
Miracles never runs wasteland. Shardless runs a couple as removal spells against manlands. And I think running more than 2 is a mistake in shardless. Same with esper deathblade.
The decks where running 4 wasteland is correct are aggro decks, or control decks with a specific utility land plan.
way to miss the fucking point you dweeb
It's the Splinter token that gets Splinter Twin enchanted to it that can't activate its newly acquired activated ability, not Splinter Twin copies
They have to crack it at some point, can't crack racks and bridge at the same time and you don't need to dump all 8 into an uncracked one with a Bridge out and all the time in the world.
Have you dick suckers checked the MTGO events since the PT?
>Pro Tour OGW
1x Lucky fucker playing an uninteractive combo deck
There's only 4 decks listed.
This format has been quite literally busted in half. Right now EVERYONE is brewing to try and beat this deck and no one can come close.