>>45296204 >>45296250 Twilight vamps are more physically capable than any neonate and the vast majority of elders, some of them have completely OP extra superpowers that make non-advanced disciplines look like trash, and they can pass for attractive humans trivially so long as they avoid direct sunlight... They'd be the new vampiric master race for fucks sake.
>>45296330 Physical: they move faster than humans can perceive, their skin is substantially harder than rock, they can stop cars superman style and punch boulders into gravel. None of these abilities drain any 'resources', and they never need any downtime.
Stupid superpower examples: Read the minds of literally everyone in a multi kilometer radius, ridiculously overpowered precog, the ability to put any number of people into perfect sensory deprivation at will, a perfect defense against any kind of 'psychic' ability, and a whole laundry list of other stupid shit.
They're totally unbalanced in every possible way. They don't even need to drink blood, and they have literally no weaknesses.
>>45296428 Yup, pretty much. They're some of the most broken vamps in fiction imo. >>45296421 They're as intelligent as regular humans who have lived centuries/millenia. They maintain a functional masquerade, have laws and enforcers for those laws...
The writing is stupid, and the way the author tried to justify the limited vampire population is stupid, but the vamps themselves aren't stupid.
God, I know way too much about this shitty goddamn series.
>>45296650 IDK about them acting stupid, though. They don't optimise (ie infect literally every human-- boom, immortal population of attractive demigods), sure, but most people IRL don't.
Ignoring the main vamp dude, 'cos he's a perpetual angsty teenager and more than a bit retarded, I think most of them act pretty rationally. It's been years since I read those books though so I might be forgetting some particularly special example of universal stupidity. >>45296672 Yeah, Tremere outstrip twamps on the bullshit-hax-overpowered-mary-sue scale by a fair amount. >>45296725 They aren't fun at all. Twilight is known by just about everyone as absolute shit for a reason mate.
>>45295997 >Start as Vampires in France >I got to infiltrate some gang >The most influential vampire in our region reveals us that I had to infiltrate the region because the gang got paid to kill a vampire >We are "asked" to find out who is behind that >We find out that some suspicious individual installed a Spanish washing machine >We later find a guy on a Czech motorbike >Paranoia starts
>>45296725 Well the books are not well written and some of the main characters are garbage. But going into the author "lore" they show interesting things.
One of the "kings" makes mention that their secrecy is more important now than ever before with human technology able to likely harm them. So it seems there is a weakness at some level.
They are also weak against other forms of supernatural. Shape shifters who have evolved to kill them, as well as natural Werewolves that were hunted to near extinction due to the threat they posed (and the personal sustain from one of these kings)
>>45295997 >meetup day at LGS >always heard about WoD >find the one table offering a new game to new players >snappily dressed guy at the table >dress pants, purple and black vertically lined silk shirt, black dress shoes, black bowtie, hair slicked back the whole works >actually decent looking guy dressing nice not some neckbeard trying to look good for gameday >welcomes me to the table with wide sweeping arms and a faux british accent >asks how new i am and explain i know literally nothing other than vampires and werewolves are a deal but i'd at least like to learn a bit before seriously investing >says he'll run me through the book since it doesn't appear anyone else is interested in joining so he's got all day >pats the seat next to him >odd but figure he seems friendly enough >pulls out this huge book maybe 2.5'x1.5' leather and gold embossed letters >still not sure to this day if it was custom or some rare edition or something >puts it on the table and siddles uncomfortably close to me >figure this is so he can see what i'm seeing and point bits out >starts running me through the book pointing out key bits >not sure how long it was there but i notice his hands been sitting on my leg just hovering enough for me not to really feel it >second he sees me see it squeezes my thigh hard enough to bruise the fuck out of it >mentions something about how i got good musculature >takes me half a second to limp from the table area at the back to the door >hear "no gods damnit! You get back here!" In faux british accent And thats the day anon learned not to trust a pretty face. Still never got in WoD especially after the horror stories that corroborate my view of the community i hear here and from others.
My current WoD game seems to be going to unnecessarily edgy or dumb. In the first session, the phrase "large-breasted woman" was used for two-three different NPC:s, our boss masturbated and there was implied sex between an NPC and a PC. And don't start me with the ritual murder and rape of tens of people, possibly children.
>>45297035 No just that "designer" style clothes are meant to accentuate and compliment your features. If your features are less than pleasing face, unkempt look in hair facial or otherwise, or a gut then its just highlighting those issues and the statement that makes is less compliment more insult. Oddly enough average clothes like baggy jeans and a t-shirt are actually complimentary to any of those. Human perception of fashion is weird. >>45297048 I like girlish bodytypes not wide shouldered angular types and facial hair itches.
> Never played before, buy a bunch of books off amazon because they are pretty > veteran masquerade IRC player offers to GM nWoD > All books allowed > Starts off with simple ghost haunting a cement factory > GM constantly mixes up rules from oWoD and nWod, pretty frustrating > Play rich hacker, pretty fun > Party uses arizona arnold-palmy bottles in ghost fight which will be remembered by players for years. > Detective player gets frustrated and angry because hes expected to know things about procedures at crime scenes. > All in all game is going well for us 3 players, finally take care of ghost on session 6 (3-4 hour sessions) > Problem is there are 5 players. 2 players haven't have basically slept for 20ish hours on game night as GM hasn't gotten to introducing them yet due to their backstories. > We play in person, the last 2 months these two people have been sleeping on my couch and at the game table every thursday. > We stop playing that game and ridicule that GM for years to come.
>>45298008 I'll say right now, Lilith's book that was meant to be her cult's equivalent to the Book of Nod (Can't recall the exact name right now) is outright one of the worst things I've ever read. There's very little value in that trash.
>>45298042 Japanese vampires can get pretty odd, but they honestly er more in a WoD or Bram Stoker direction far more often than they do in the Twilight direction. Even if a vampire is a love interest, she'll have freakish powers and hate the sun.
>>45298109 Revelations of the Dark Mother? Yeah, I was very disappointed. qt Dark Goddess is conceptually fun, so I checked it out, but it just didn't match my hype. Turned me off the whole Path and everything, which sucks, because my Storyteller is trying to bully us into taking a Path, but they're all pretty stupid.
>>45298156 Lilith fundamentally had a good argument for being someone sympathetic just from Nodist lore. I mean, taught Caine most of what he knows? Tried to protect and shelter him? Really loved him? Got kicked out of Eden for stupid reasons? Might've been a little controlling and scared him off? All of these can make you really feel for the girl if you just, at your core, turn around and look at them from her perspective. You can easily justify that last part with how things worked out for Caine in the end, even.
So you go from there in a book about Lilith, and if you take that at the core, all you have to do is make your argument, alter a few details, add some events and mystery, and bam. Then you go and present alternative mythologies and viewpoints and later legends to flesh it out and make you guess. But no, instead they added a bunch of shit that was really stupid, contradicted with almost all of the lore generally supported in the rest of the setting, and had her case argued for by an edgy little stereotype and a literal babyeater, one of the least sympathetic people and perspectives you could've used.
Just what the hell, how do you fuck it up that bad?
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>>45295997 A lot of vampires from folklore could go out in daytime. A lot of interpretations weren't even undead.
'Strigoi' alone have hundreds of vastly different origins and associated stories, ranging from being witches that drink blood to remain young, to revenant type beings that rise from a poor death (murder, drowning, etc. Plague was a popular one), to blatant Sigurd riffs that drank dragon blood and became immortals.
I don't get why people generally consider WoD a lewd setting. All my games always end up being centered around politics and borderline open warfare. Aside from mage which generally devolves into Indiana Jones or Lupin.
>>45295997 i couldnt find any VTM or WOD groups except for a couple of play by posts.
When i tried playing them, I ran into this wall where all the americans/europeans would be posting in real time and by the time it was my time zone, they were all asleep and i would get in only one post a day and have to wait till the next day for the ST or other players to show up. So i was never able to do anything useful because players would say one line to me then leave because I couldn't respond fast enough.
This was made worse by the ST insisting that i roleplay a feeding scene every day so that further limited the time i had to do actual stuff. Then he disallowed use of dominate to feed by making a random mortal resist it by doing a willpower roll and warning me that i risked a masquerade breach.
Would love to find a realtime group to play WOD with though, mage looks fun as well.
Used to run nWoD nearly exclusively in my early days as a GM, started out with generic "this place, only darker" setting but slowly started inserting more insane stuff into it.
The last campaign I ran of it was a crossover of it with Cowboy Bebop. We started out with all-humans (although one was a psychic thanks to unethical experiments), it ended with the psychic being the only normal person in the party. Mixed in some elements of oWoD with the conversion guides, it was great fun considering I was going for a high-action, reasonably high-power game.
Highlights: >One PC finishing off the last of a werewolf pack out to kill the party by ramming a Harley into her face while leaping out the back of a falling spaceship >Kidnapping a ghouled corporate CEO by lowering a werewolf on a winch from their ship to grab him off a rooftop >Blowing half the leg off a Promethean blatantly trying to be Batman without the costume, only to have him join them if only to stop the cops from beating the shit out of him >The wolf-blooded detective becoming Winchwolf after being gunned down by crime syndicate goons in their office tower, only to transform and tear the place apart >Getting the original cast sans Spike, but he showed up at the end regardless back together for one last adventure
>implying the average VtM player wasn't as faggy as Edward. >implying Masquerade didn't draw from even more lame books than Twilight, like Anne Rice. >Implying Requiem didn't try to clean all the fagginess of the fanbase that masquerade created.
>>45299716 >Implying Requiem didn't try to clean all the fagginess of the fanbase that masquerade created. Meh, requiem is no less faggy and the fluff is strictly worse. Both the clans and the coveneants are much more shitty than the old ones.
I've seen a case made here on /tg/ that the vampires of Twilight probably aren't actually vampires, they're more like magic rock golems that crave blood. You can imagine the first few of these rock monsters craving blood, thinking "Oh, I guess I'm a vampire, those drink blood, right?" and then not really looking into the truth of their origins.
>>45299916 >implying shit like the anarchs aren't BTFO by the Carthian Movement Literally any human form of government trying to be applied to vampires vs "hurr elders a shit, fuck the Cammies and Sabbat"
>also implying Belial's Brood and VII don't kick the shit out of the Sabbat when used for what they're meant for
>>45300013 NPCs never need to follow the exact rules set for PCs. For that matter, even if you DO follow the rules for PCs, someone like a mayor most likely should count as a fairly experienced character unless he's intended to have gained the office through favors/family connections/something else that doesn't require him to be actually competent.
>>45299963 The carthians are the most retarded of all the new covenants actually. It's one thing to have vampire anarchists, but bleeding hearts? Why would a vampire give a shit about that? Why would elders? In a settings where characters can have wildly different power levels, equality is a laughable aim. And don't even compare Belial CE cunts and the VII who noone knows shit about with a legit apocalypse cult like the Sabbat. I see also that you're not talking about the idiocy that are the religious covenants like the neopagans and the catholics either, kek. And you're not even talking about the stupid mash up of clans that could have made sense starting from a blank slate, but looks stupid as fuck when they're obviously just trying to push all the old ones into five new, with stupid results like the inevitably deranged leader clan.
>>45300121 >Carthians are all bleeding hearts Look at this retard. Like I said, -every single human form of government- falls under the Carthians' umbrella. It's not out of the realm of possibility for them to be /pol/-tier fascist retards who persecute based on clan or faith
>getting butthurt over the rejigging of the clans Hey retard, that's what bloodlines are for. Also the Daeva work way better than Brujah and Toreador ever did
It was the first time my group has played VTM and the character I had come up with was a retarded child who got turned by a Nosferatu. Because I thought it'd be hilarious and fun to have a small vampire with retard strength, I dumped everything into potence. My dice pool for strength was 10 I believe.
By the end of the game I had killed 15 by throwing cars at them. I even killed a guy with a crossbow (I threw the crossbow itself instead of shooting it). Possibly one of the funnest sessions of any game I've ever had.
>>45301365 No shit. We applied a 20 system to the lore. 5 classes. Lots of skill sets. And have been using that setting for a game for a couple years now. Good times. We omitted the angsty teen faggotry. And the "love" bullshit. Working great.
>>45296404 >substantially harder than rock It's literally diamond. Word of god is that turning into a vampire somehow compresses the carbon in their skin, turning it into diamond, which is why they sparkle.
>Depressed ex-lawyer of a Giovanni constantly trying to atone for his mistakes, Main one being he wrongly sent a nosferatu to life sentence due to his corrupt family. >Happy go lucky Machavian psychiatrist who suffers from bipolarity, on the run from tremere due to being framed for M.V. >British Nosferatu whose sire may or may not be the former prince of england. a common joke about him is that Where theres terrorism hes probably involved. >A tremere e-celeb who also works part-time with the corrupt police and now the mafia. >A toreador J-pop star who is sociopathic to the least.
>V:tM, first game ever >Game consists of me, my wife, The Gangrel, That Guy, and That Guy's gf who is ST for the first time. >That Guy volunteers to help me make a character, talks me into putting points into things that end up being utterly worthless in our campaign >That Guy constantly interrupts his gf to berate her for doing things "wrong" (ie, not HIS way) >She finally snaps, tells him if he wants to be in charge, he should run the game >He does. >Instead of taking over her story, he starts from scratch with a new setting >Constantly tells players they can't do stuff, even though it makes sense IC and we have the abilities to do it. >nofunallowed.jpg >Nobody wants to play That Guy's campaign anymore, so The Gangrel takes over >He's actually a really good ST and the game is fun again, except... >That Guy is a dick to everyone IC, to the point where people ask him OOC to stop >He defends his actions with the typical That Guy answer, "It's what my character would do" >My wife finally snaps, screams at him, and storms out. >Game Over.
>>45308853 >Second V:tM game >Wife wants to try ST, so it's the two of us and our roommate >My character is a Nosferatu who suffers from serious paranoid schizophrenia >Lives in a shack in the woods because the GOVERNMENT is out to get him >Local Prince wants to have a pow-wow, decides to round up some vampires - including our characters >Sends his lackey to deliver the message >Lackey is also a police detective >Stop wife, tell her OOC that this may not be the best idea... >Police Detective knocks on my Nosferatu's shack door anyway >He freaks out, runs into the woods >Detective gives chase >My character freaks out even more, sprints through the woods for miles, literally >Detective calls in reinforcements, including a police helicopter >character comes to a dead end, it's either be caught by the police or jump into the lake >lets go swimming then >no swimming ability, character sinks to the bottom and intentionally stays there to avoid THE MAN >dies >wife is mad >Game Over >I'm That Guy.
How exactly can a VtM vampire die from staying at the bottom of a lake? They don't need to breathe - at all. Did the Nossie die from being unable to get blood, or was the lake so shallow the sun killed him in the morning?
I've almost exclusively played vtm actually, and havent had a horrible experience yet, though this is mainly due to my playgroup not giving a fuck or being a bunch of idiots, myself included.
I've basicly become the main dm and so far my anarch game is running great with three players.
>First player is a Assimite who runs a food truck and inadvertently ended up looking like scar from fma. Has botched more often than passed at making food.
>Second player is a Follower of Set who was sired by what has become jonny bravo and has quickly tryed to distance herself from him yet is still being hunted down by the clan for heresy, Crossdresses and trys to act like a brujah horribly. Also is possessed by one of the strongest ghost in existence because she's bored. Botches at least once a session.
>Final character is a Brujah who looks and acts like armstrong on purpose. he also just pissed off an ancient tzimsiee who build a whole south american native city inside a cave and under a bomb shelter buy asking him if he is fucking sorry instead of apologizing to him due to a botch. He too botches on trivial rolls.
I also have a bunch more strange shit running around in the city some homebrewed, some from random ass splatbooks
>>45295997 >vampire was a political term used by peasants to describe tax collectors >They would take grain and food and drain the resources of the peasants lowering their survival chances . >The peasants saw their "life blood" being taken away
Y'all need to read up on early modern Europe. Also have a shark vampire.
Still playing a 2 years campaing the few things i learned are: >Proper ethiquette saves lives. >Elders are assholes >Younglings are assholes >If Garous are nearby you better clench your anus >Pentex has the best CEO ever >Always tip in the pub with a cat called Mephistopheles >Never frown to the idea of bringing people armed with assault rifles, those fuckers can down everything with the right amount of gun >Salomon is a dick
>>45308853 >the typical That Guy answer, "It's what my character would do" The correct response is "none of our characters would work with yours, so we throw him out (or kill him, depending on the game), since that's what our characters would do. Roll up a new one that would actually get along with the group."
We played a Vtm game once where some new faggot wanted to play a sabbat antitribu (don't even remember the clan, because it never mattered, not even sure we were told what clan it was.) while the rest of us were playing as anarchs. We had a domain, and the faggot not only wants full rights to feed in the area (which we would maybe have agreed to after a few missions together), but also a group of 50 vampires belonging to his clan. And he demanded this after having told us he was an antitribu.
He was told to go die in a fire, where upon he flipped his shit OOC and said we had to include himx since he was a player. The ST thankfully sided with us and told him to either make his character less of a douchebag, reroll another character we actually had a reason to accept into our group, or leave the game.
I don't feel the slightest bit of sorry about him choosing the latest option.
>>45308853 >>45309094 There's a difference between being a dick and staying IC. The second story is fine to me, your wife shouldn't be mad just because everything didn't go according to her plan.
Some of my best games both playing and running have come from shit not going according to plan or going off the rails. Improvising can be fun as fuck.
>Running game of Werewolf for group of friends. >They're in downtown metropolitan city investigating some shit >They were talking to an executive at a company related to investigation, "That Guy" continually gives executive shit, executive has him kicked out. >Security takes "that guy" to elevator, hit basement button instead of first floor to take him out the back instead of making a scene in the lobby >"That guy" assumes they're going to kill him or something retarded, starts to fight them >Security pull out tasers, "That Guy" goes giant-death-machine werewolf and kills them >Never checked for camera in elevator >Freaks out, panics like a moron and uses Call of the Wyld (Basically a howl that can be heard for a ridiculous number of miles) in downtown fucking metropolitan area. >Gets rescued from himself by rest of the party, elder NPC busts him down to Rank 0 for being a dumbshit and killing innocent people while also breaking Werewolf equivalent of the Masquerade.
Even that major fuck up resulted in a pretty cool session the next game when they got jumped by hunters who had come as a result of the god damn werewolf bat-signal. Everyone had a fun time fighting these fuckers, but "that guy" was pissed the entire time because there were consequences to his actions.
He was the sort of person who tries to engage in a power fantasy every time he roleplays and takes anything that happens to his character personally. He walked out of a game of DnD after giving this intricate description of his character's sword when one of the other players jokingly said that it sounded like a penis.
>>45319730 >staying IC There is EVERYTHING wrong with staying IC if you've made a character that has absolutely no reason to be with the party, either because he has a problem with the party, or the party has a problem with him
>>45320380 Re-read what I said faggot. The character who was just an uncooperative dick was bad, the second one where his paranoid "anti-government" character was scared of a police detective was fine.
>>45321397 Not if it actively interferes with gathering the group and making them stick together, and GETS HIM KILLED DURING THE FIRST SESSION.
You have to realise that this is a collaboration between several people. Making a character that is super paranoid and suffers from a psykosis (paranoid schizophrenia is heavily debilitating to the point where most average cases of it makes it next to impossible to be actively social for prolonged periods of times, which is exactly what you'll be doing in a VtM game where you are supposed to be part of a coterie), practically dooms the game from the start, and means you will almost certainly cause troubles that makes keeping the group together near impossible, especially in a VtM game, where intrigue is such a huge part of everything. The only reason it wouldn't, is if the players keeps a strict limit of how debilitating it is, in which case he could have at least spoken to the damn detective.
As a player first and foremost, I hate it when other players do this kind of shit. Stop trying to derail everything because "LOL MY CHARACTER IS JUST LIKE THAT XDDD". The GM hates you, and all players around you hates you. It doesn't make anything interesting, just annoying as fuck.
You can make a good character out of the usual "antisocial guy who hates everyone and trusts no one" type, but it requires a lot of restraint and knowledge of when you can make a big deal out of it, and when you should keep a lid on it. I've seen people do a fantastic job of it, but the quoted post sounded like the usual edgy faggot who just wants to hog all the attention, and cause all the problems he possibly can, with a flimsy excuse of "I was just being IC!"
Playing a Tremere with Natural Vicissitude and Not Embraced by the Cup. Character was sired by an Antitribu Tremere but wasn't keen on the Sabbat "shovelhead" procedure he went through. When the Tremere came knocking he found a weak fledgling, killed him, and took his form using vicissitude.
Playing hard mode trying to balance Tremere work and not being caught by the council. Only character that knows my secret is a fishmalk who thinks were best friends since we both dislike the way we were sired.
In the one V:tM campaign I played, I played a Caitif with all 5 Background dots in Generation, so I started as an 8th-generation "natural" Caitiff. This is actually completely possible, if very rare, in oWoD rules (RE: Muktar Bey, Prince of Cairo). She was, in fact, the childe of a 7th-generation "natural" Caitiff elder (who'd been awake and active for 1,000 years) who called himself Chétiff and who had Embraced her one year ago, told her that she had a year to hide, and then after that year was up was going to hunt her down and kill her. This will be important later.
Because being 8th-generation anything is twinking in the extreme (Generation being the only background that cannot be obtained via strict roleplay and which provides absurd benefits) and being an 8th-generation "natural" Caitiff is even more twinking, I gimped the character in four ways.
First, merely being a Caitiff gives reputation and interaction penalties with the Camarilla, who reigned supreme in the Chronicle.
Second, the Disciplines I took were Fortitude, Obfuscate, and Potence, none of which run the risk of seriously breaking the game (unlike, say, Celerity, or Thaumaturgy).
Third, I used none of my Freebie points to purchase any other Backgrounds: my character was homeless and broke, had no Status, no herd, no contacts, nothing.
Finally, I took two flaws: Ignorant (-2), which meant that my character had no clue about the norms of vampire culture at all ("Brujah? What's that?" "Camarilla? Isn't that a chocolate bar?" "So, wait, does silver harm me, or doesn't it?")...and a 5-point Enemy flaw.
As I said, Chétiff is important. See, I got my hands on the Elders book and took the time to stat out Chétiff according to its rules. I designed Chétiff to be an absolute beast in combat, able to easily solo me and my entire troupe at once with very minimal effort. The Storyteller for the game liked it so much that he actually took the stats and said he was going to use them for Chétiff.
And for those who are curious, no, I did not build any hidden weaknesses into Chétiff. Nothing to exploit. He was fantastically wealthy, politically able, charismatic, intelligent, insightful, insanely strong, loaded with powerful Disciplines (including 5 dots in Celerity and 5 in Protean - Chétiff was a natural Caitiff and *his* sire, too, but before that the line was Gangrel), and basically more than capable of fucking up the shit of everyone forever.
...then I re-read what a 5-point Enemy is. It gives an example as "a Methuselah". Having acquired the book Children of the Night, I looked up what a few Methuselah could do.
And I realized something. Chétiff. The 7th-generation Elder Caitiff whom I had personally designed to fuck up my shit and the shit of everyone within a 10-block radius of me...
...was NOWHERE NEAR powerful enough to represent the 5-point Enemy flaw.
And, as I am an honest gamer, I told my Storyteller this.
>>45323050 The 5 point enemy flaw can also jut involve something on the same level. I have had several games where it was basically the focal point of hatred for a large pack of 50 werewolves. And not just the standard werewolf - these were of an absolutely stupid level of badass, and were responsible for the fact that the cold war never happened, because this pack DESTROYED the Soviet army so hard that they didn't dare make a move, not even knowing what had him them at first.
>>45323163 >these were of an absolutely stupid level of badass, and were responsible for the fact that the cold war never happened, because this pack DESTROYED the Soviet army so hard that they didn't dare make a move, not even knowing what had him them at first. Remind me, how well do furries work against nukes?
>>45323163 I know. It also can represent something like the personal attention of a significant portion of the Technocracy, or any number of other things.
The point being that I personally designed an NPC to slaughter my character and everyone she knew, and then I learned that that NPC is weaksauce compared to the ACTUAL Enemy.
My current thinking is that it's actually someone further back on Adrienne's (my character's) vampire genealogy. I did up a full "family line" for funsies, even though Adrienne has no way of knowing it:
1st. Caine, the Dark Father [Cursed by God c. 200,000 BC] 2nd. Irad, the Strong [Embraced c. 10,000-20,000 BC] [Deceased via Diablerie by the Antediluvians] 3rd. Ennoia [Gangrel Antediluvian, Embraced c. 8000 BC] 4th. Enmerkar [Gangrel Methuselah, Embraced c. 3000 BC] [Deceased, cause unknown] 5th. Arieh of Judea [Gangrel ancient, Embraced c. 400 BC]
Here the line splits. Arieh killed Silius (below) and drained him, dry, but accidentally bled a little into him. She left, but Silius was Embraced as a result and, lacking any knowledge of what happened, became Caitiff.
6th. Caelus Silius Uticensis [Caitiff elder, Embraced c. 100 AD] [Deceased in the Anarch Revolt] 7th. [Chétif] [real name not told to Adrienne, he uses Chétiff as a sobriquet while hunting his childer for sport] [Caitiff elder, Embraced c. 1000 AD] 8th. Adrienne [Caitiff neonate, Embraced 1997 AD]
My line of thinking is that either Arieh is "cleaning house". She's learned about her Caitiff descendants and wants to wipe them out.
>>45295997 A few years back, my friends and I played a NWOD mortals game that I enjoyed quite a bit. The premise was simple: we each played as a mortal who had had some sort of brush with the supernatural. My character, Joe “Tex” Frost was a retired police investigator and former soldier who was approached by an enigmatic benefactor “Mr. Hunt” to recruit the rest of the team, which Hunt had all prepared dossiers for. We tackled a few cases before real life sort of drifted our group apart.
The other team members were Tom BIllings, a skeptical, disgraced, former journalist who poked his nose in the wrong person’s business. he’s the only member without a direct contact with the supernatural.
there was Ichabod “Icky” Johnson, a young hacker and vague scholar of the occult, who had a close call with a zombie attack at the diner he worked in and has been on the run ever since after the event being rationalized away as a mass murder with him implicated as the killer.
Father David Edwards was a priest without a parish after his sermons about his encounter with what was probably a werewolf during his time as an army chaplain was deemed blasphemous by his superiors in the church.
We were recruited as members of the “Extranormal Investigations Group”, a private investigations firm located in a repurposed former police headquarters, and served as the principal investigators, supported by a secretary and an eccentric forensics specialist that apparently lived in his office in the basement. We investigated a wide variety of cases, from missing persons, to a young anthropology student murdering his coworkers for reasons unknown. our last cases, which never were resolved, involved a woman who’s certain her husband has been replaced by an impostor, a phantom trucker causing accidents almost every night, and a young girl disappearing from her bed every night in a flash of light and reappearing the next morning.
>>45296807 White Court Vampires in Dresden Files, kind of. They're not actually "vampires". They're emotional vampires and fully human save for being long lived supernatural beings driven by instinct (Human in Dresden Files essentially means having free will, and while White Court have less of it, they've still got it). The main group, the Raith Family, are succubi, and one (impotent) Incubus patriarch and his son.
When they tap into their Hunger and use their supernatural strength and agility, their eyes get silvery and their skin takes on an opalescent shimmer as opposed to being attractively pale.
When I first read it, I cringed a little because of the connotations, but honestly the writing is better, and the glowing silveriness is more than just a reason to keep them out of the sun while still making them pretty and approachable to Mormon housewi--I mean young women.
>>45324217 Nah. Thats just average asian behavior. They get old till age 13-15 at which point they age backwards slighly to appear manly to attract a mate, possibly with a motorcycle or inner city apartment as a sign of wealth, after that they'll remain at this "adult" phase to ensure the snare then slowly but surely age backwards until youthful again. This is, however, quite hard on the body and around age 50 they'll start aging 2-5 years per year and shrinking in height a bit.
1) It was hailed by quite a number of people as revolutionary and I dont think it deserves those accolades.
2) I worry about it informing a new generation of vampire fiction and producing a generation of something that at its core interests me but, due to the shitty interpretation, are exceedingly uninteresting for me.
That and I keep on getting players quoting it at the table and arguing about it. One guy wanted to use vampire blood as a poison since its apparently a venom in twilight...
>>45325206 >1) It was hailed by quite a number of people as revolutionary and I dont think it deserves those accolades.
>2) I worry about it informing a new generation of vampire fiction and producing a generation of something that at its core interests me but, due to the shitty interpretation, are exceedingly uninteresting for me.
There has always been shitty vampire fiction. That isn't new. Get over, fag.
>That and I keep on getting players quoting it at the table and arguing about it. One guy wanted to use vampire blood as a poison since its apparently a venom in twilight..
>>45325459 >Literally who? You never had the misfortune to be in school at the time it was popular, did you? Or have you just shoved your head far enough up your ass to have forgotten? I can remember girls trying to convince teachers we should study it. I never paid enough attention to know if anyone of note ever gave it notice but goddamn it got enough bullshit accolades from random fuckwits to start getting on my nerves.
>There has always been shitty vampire fiction. Yes, Im aware. But damn me to hell and back if I didn;t see an upsurge in it after each new twilight book was released. Regardless of that, is it so wrong to want that to, I don't know, change?
>Get better friends. You... you realise I never once implied these people were friends, right? Big difference between players and friends. I take the players I can get unless they're literally insufferable, there isn't a big enough community to be picky where I live. Regardless, the venom dude did get fucked out of it eventually. Dude turned out to be several shades of criminal and is doing time.
Notice how I wont be including a patronising, strawmanny image, hmm? Maybe you could learn to be less of a cunt? Might be easier to convince people that way, ya know?
Storyteller system is so fucking shit. My group was torturing me with it for a few months, everyone was GMing their games because it's so easy to learn. Not even VtM, I remember someone runing a fantasy game using Storyteller beceuse he couldn't be bothered to learn something more complicated. And we had Fantasy Roleplay rulebook colecting dust on a shelf.
>>45325671 >able to forget I fucking wish. Senior year we had some idiot convince our teacher to do this slow read thing where we'd read 5ish pages then analyze them in-depth, if he felt you half-assed or weren't quite comprehending he'd lower you a grade for a day which hurt your GPA badly as it was IB school so 95% was A but 80% was F. Imagine everyday for 2 hours you read that shit stopping to get 30 peoples in-depty tryhard opinions and views on it and over half were about how its totally not chick smut and how its the best damned thing to ever happen to book reading ever and how its the gateway for females in writing as if that wasn't already a thing and how all guys should be like that forever. Its shit, its absolute shit, but it was hailed as the best damn thing ever. I wish i could forget.
>>45323897 Agreed. If they smoked in sunlight (even if they didn't burn), that would be more interesting, since it would leave a trail and be immediately obvious in the same way. It could even be as sexy. Smoky skin and aura are a little demon-y but still work.
>>45326427 >I remember someone running a fantasy game using Storyteller because he couldn't be bothered to learn something more complicated. I know someone like this. He seems convinced that Storyteller/ing is a great system for every kind of game, rather than a passable system for urban horror.
>>45325206 >One guy wanted to use vampire blood as a poison That's a neat concept, tough, and the fact that the player thought of it through Twillight doesn't really make the concept *worse*. Also, assamites. The concept is an Assamite.
I hate Twillight too. I saw the first Underworld and thought we'd start getting cool WoD'ish vampire movies, and then out of nowhere we get fucking Twillight. It is like finding a cool looking anime, and have it turn into the stereotypical harem shit. But it isn't really Twillight that I am angry at, because it just proves that the general consensus is that Twillight is enjoyable, moreso the, say, Underworld was. We are all entitled to our opinions, but you can vet your ass that when it comes to commercial products, they much rather produce the one that most people like. And people apparently prefer sparkly vampires to the more classic variants.
>>45323414 I ran a game like that way back in HS. All mortals except each had a minor special power. They would hunt down cursed relics and destroy or lock them away. I got the inspiration from the Friday the 13th tv show. The game didn't get far enough to start adding supernatural antagonists.
HS WoD game. Good GM, and terrible players. >The GM is letting people play anything other than mages. This is the 2nd Ed books, so mixed groups are usually a bad idea. >We get a mix of werewolves and vampire elders. All the vamp players sink their background points into generation. >I make a tzimisce mad scientist posing as a failed tremere (caitiff). Most of my backgrounds are in resources and contacts. >The other players proceed to do stupid stuff and get killed. While they keep on making new characters I am getting into good graces with the ventrue prince. >Werewolves and bruja a problem? I just equip the bruja with a bunch of high tech silver weaponry. There, both problems solved. >One of the players bribes the GM for his new character. Ends up making a 6th generation bruja with celerity 6. The GM lets him because the kid has burned his way through three characters so far, and he knows this one won't last long. >Sure enough his character attempts to take revenge on the prince for the death of his last character. He gets his ass handed to him and flees. >My character sees him being chased by the prince's men. I use Movement of the Mind to lift her off the ground. The other vamps catch up and butcher her. I am in tight with the prince now. >Someone sics the rest of the player characters on me. They decide to lay siege to my haven. >At the beginning of the game I had designed a haven worthy of a paranoid sabbat/spy/scientist. >First I kill the power to the surrounding blocks. >Then steel plates slam over all of the windows and doors. >A very loud rendition of Ride of the Valkyries begins to play. >Machine guns pop out of the ground and start hosing the player characters down. >They try breaking one of the steel plates. Too bad they are electrified. >At this point they are running low on health and blood, so the flee. >I call the prince and apologize about the disturbance. Mention how the masquerade was preserved.
>>45334814 Continued >I fax surveillance photos of all of the player characters to the prince. >After I send him a full written account he asks me to upgrade his own haven. >At this point the city is so low on elders the prince makes me one of the primogen as a reward for my services. >Campaign ends before I could kill them all. The lesson: When the GM is running a political/ intrigue game, and the other players are all stupid murder hobos. Make a character that fits the mood and theme of the game. Not only will he reward you for making the effort to fit in with his game, but he will let you stretch the rules a bit when slapping down stupid murder-hobos.
I have participated in two larps, and they both sucked. I started out staked in the first one, along with a few other players. We started playing cards when it became clear the storyteller had forgotten about us.
In the second game I get staked about fifteen minutes into the game. Again the storyteller forgets me, and I just go home. After those experiences I swore off vampire larps.
So my character was old, Being a Gunsmith during the American Revolution (roughly the time when he was turned). Hated Vampires because he viewed Immortality as a curse (watching your wife die, your children die, your children's children Etc.) Over the years he began to collect more and more wealth and followers to his cause (Wiping out everything that stood in Humanity's way, Werewolves, Vampires, etc). in the mid to late 20th century he began looking for a cure to Vampirism as a means to weaponize it and turn it on all vampires.
So I "the ebil and powerful vampire" TPK'd when everyone except the mages that turned on me.
The "party" told one of the mages that they were going to hunt me down. Said mage went to warn me, I gave him control of a portion of my company for doing this and I readied the bombs I was going to use on Various groups of Vampires in DC and Blew up my Front in DC along with the entire party.
>>45327116 1. Canon Resonance is shit. 2. Themewise, I was hoping for more Exalted of the Underworld and less Exalted of Murder, but that's entirely personal preference. 3. There's pretty much no incentive for staying Abyssal and not shooting straight for muh redemption. 4. Reskinned solar charms piss me off. 5. SuperSolarDeathlords are literally the worst thing to happen to Exalted, far worse than even the early chapters of Infernals. 6. Canon Underworld is absolute shit, necromancy is 99% absolute shit. Considering these are the Abyssal's 'things'...
>5e >play old-ass doctor who's family was killed by a vampire >has an intense hatred of them >decides to become a light cleric to fight them and get revenge on the one who killed his family >party ends up meeting a vampire priestess who wants to reverse her curse >doctor takes pity on her and vows to find a way to cure her >even offers to be a blood donor so she doesn't go mad I've got the feeling this is going to come back to bite him in the ass, but character development.
>>45339769 You're replying to a different anon never saw the guy again not even at that same store. Also while a GENTLE squeeze is code for gays and chicks to express interest a squeeze hard enough to leaving a green and purple bruise in the shape of a hand is not okay and sends up a few thousand redflags.
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