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Out of the way plebs, arquebus master race...
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Out of the way plebs, arquebus master race coming in
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>>45093211
>>>/k/
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>>45093211

>Master race
>Posts inferior weapon.

Please.
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Eat my musket
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I had in mind exactly that for one of my characters except the base would be Mosin pistol instead of flintlock. Shame the game never took off.
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>>45093232
>>>/out/
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>>45093277
Mosin pistol?
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>>45093311
Obrez, tovarich.
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>>45093211
my friend of african american descendant
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>>45093332
holy shit those are the guns the Jawas used
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>>45093277
>>45093311
>>45093332
YOU SEE IVAN WHEN YOU USE PEESTOL OF MOSIN, CALL OBREZ, YOU DON'T NEED HIT THE ENEMY WITH BOOLET
MERELY BE CLOSE.
FLASH OF MUZZLE HANDLE EVERYTHING.

IS GOOD FOR HANDLING BOURGEOISIE SCUM
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>>45093232
But that's not an African-America.
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Would it be pointless to rifle an arquebus barrel?
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Are there any systems that handle early to mid firearms well?

>inb4 GURPS
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>>45093237
>pitifully short barrel
>fuckoff weight unbalancing your shots
>every time you hit something with it the barrel is going to get twisted

It's twice as shit as OP's weapon.
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>>45095721
>short barrel
Not any shorter than other from the time
>not accurate due to weight
Lol like it matters with a black powder smoothbore pistol. You point it at the dude close your eyes and shoot
>barrel easly damaged
I give you that point.
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>>45095352
You're not going to get many answers if you inb4 the only popular system that actually does it.

>stupid long reload time
>low accuracy
>low reliability
>ur fukt if you get hit

They're very much weapons to be used en masse, just like in real life. PCs should stick to other things unless they're taking like a brace of pistols, IMO.

>>45095318
Nah. You'd just have to load a ball of proper size and hold steady while you dropped the match.
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>>45095352
WFRP does it reasonably well. You can hurt someone real bad, but you'd better have a friend or three to protect you while you reload.
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>>45096502
Just what did people use to protect them selves back then? Knives/Daggers? Or a constantly loaded pistol?
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>>45097111
>reloading mid combat
when you run out of loaded barrels it's time to turn the gun other way around and start using it as a blunt weapon
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>>45095318
Rifled muzzle-loaders are tricky.

If the ball is not of a slightly smaller diameter than the barrel, it is difficult to load. On the other hand, if the ball is smaller in diameter than the barrel, it will not fully engage with the rifling and the accuracy benefit of a rifle will be lost.

In most contemporary rifles, the bullet is actually a fraction of a millimeter larger than the barrel, and is deformed by the pressure of firing to engage the rifling much more soundly.
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>>45093211
>doesn't need an aiming fork
>Implying you're non-peripheral-needing shit could beat a musket

I think we've got a gullible Jap here guys
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>>45093211

Oh hell yeah
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>>45097711
That is a sweet picture my Nubian compatriot
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>>45097823
In what world would someone be wearing a 19th century style shirt/vest combo and a loincloth?
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Taking into account long reload times and inaccuracy of smoothbore firearms, how would you use early firearms as a PC?
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>>45099438
Historical reenactment done in the future.
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>>45099438
A world that acknowledges pants were a mistake.
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>>45099438
Dude's got a tail. Pants just aren't practical with that anatomy.
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>>45093232
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>>45099504

Fire them at close range. Either treat them a one-shot wonder and keep a claymore handy, or have a party member cover you while you reload.

The blunderbuss appeared some time in the 1600s, those are quite good as a one-shot weapon.

The only battlefield advantage of very early European firearms - the handguns of the 1300s and 1400s - was that they penetrated armour better than crossbows. Knights in full plate could laugh off crossbow bolts but firearms were a real danger.
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>>45099438
I'm not sure you noticed, as it's really subtle, But that is a lizard person. So to answer your question; A world with lizard people.
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>>45093211
>well crafted
>personalized
>still used up until the Soviet-Afghan War
>weapon of choice for both crazy rats and cyborgs

Jezails
accept no subsitutes
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>>45099666
>Dude
>With those thighs
I don't believe it
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>>45102323
Is there much of a difference when it comes to reptiles? A cloaca is a cloaca.
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>>45095352
I like em in Burning Wheel
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>>45095352
The ones written to handle them. Rulesets covering the thirty years war, english civil war, late medieval times, etc.
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>>45099504
Just like any other ranged weapon. Take feats to let you reload faster. and shoot more accurately.

I used a musket with a cleric for a whole campaign. good fun. Didn't do much damage, but hit fairly consistently (had high Dex, weapon specialization, +1 magic weapon, etc) Did something like D12+3 damage.
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>>45097181
Generally swords. While their effectiveness in war is a skub-like topic I won't touch, for an officer off the field, a sword, whether a barely crossguarded sword of the viking era to smallswords, sabres and broadswords up until WW1, it was essential fashion as well as common sense for all the honor and ettiquette related murder that goes on in the life of the landed gentry, as well as the odd bit of military espionage now and then.
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>>45093211
>>45097711
>>45097823
Mah Yasuke.
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>>45106350
I see what you did there, omae.
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>>45093211
Don't know what you're on about m8, that's clearly a hackbut.
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>>45099504
>>45099504
Brace of pistols. Just keep pulling them out and firing. Assuming you're not a combat character, it give you a few rounds of breathing room before you have to get mixed up in what's going on.
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Get this weak ass smooth bore bullshit up out of here.
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>Not Wheellock

HA.
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>>45108081
>Wheellocks
>So awesome that German gunsmiths refused to stop making them, even after the objectively superior flintlocks came along.
Clockwork guns. What's not to love?
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>>45107958
>1520
>still loading from the muzzle
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>>45108174
>that feel when the most advanced gun ever designed was made by Germans using what amounts to an elaborate wheellock mechanism.
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>>45108205
>actually has no idea how a wheelock or the G11s mechanism works
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>being a single shot pleb
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>>45107905
What is it about long flintlock pistols that's so cool? I can't get enough of them
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>>45093232
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We doglock now.
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>>45108359
My dawg.
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>>45093436
nah, they were cut down Lee Enfields
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>inferior gunpowder oneshots everywhere

Make way for superior Tyrolian ingenuity.
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>>45108879
DELETE THIS
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>>45108223
DO you? It's Kraut Space Magic!
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>>45108879
Was the dude from southern tyrole for real?
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>>45110292
>G11
>Ammo sits vertically in two magazines on top of the barrel
>the mechanism grabs a bullet, breaks it off the stack and inserts it into the part of the lock that will turn 90 degree forward in order to feed the bullet into the barrel.

>Wheellock
>the steel is a wheel. They use a key to wind up a spring that turns the steel and that rotation produces sparks from the flint which ignite the powder.

If you'd mash up a Lorenzoni system with a waterproof flintlock, you'd get something at least somewhat close to how the G11 operates.
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>>45110203

From our cold dead hands you megalomaniac Welsch bastard!
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>>45099504
Smoothbore firearms aren't really that inaccurate - they've got reasonable grouping so long as the distance isn't greater than a few dozen meters. After that, the lack of stabilizing spin will cause the shot to veer unpredictably.

On the battlefield this is a pitifully short range, and they were often fired en-masse by conscripts who were not exactly trained for marksmanship anyway, which has given them a bit of an unfair reputation. At the ranges most adventuring combats take place in (i.e. the confines of urban streets or dungeon corridors) they're accurate enough, if slow to reload.
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